I had not heard this, Janice. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. This is a disgrace & you are right - it is all about the dollar!! This is a double-do, a dollar off the dead & another dollar off the living. How very sad. Shirley in Houston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Hancock" <janiceh@airmail.net> To: <TXNAVARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: [TXNAVARR] FYI/Did you know? > Members-did you know that the CORSICANA DAILY SUN is charging to have obituaries placed in their paper? I didn't until I asked for my brother in law's to be published...needless to say it won't be published as I don't have that kind of loose change laying around...I think it is sad that they have reverted to doing this. So another expense for our deceased loved one added to the ever growing cost of funerals...what a shame. $$$$$$$ is the name of the game. > > Janice > > > the Corsicana Daily Sun followed the path of many other newspapers in the country and began charging for obituaries. Our fee is, we believe, quite reasonable at $50 up to 15 inches of space. > > Second, we have developed a policy regarding the origin of obituary information. We ask that the funeral home submit or verify the obituary information to us. The reason for our having this policy in place is simply that on more than one occassion, false obituaries were submitted to us as a joke. No one thought they were funny, especially those of us at the newspaper. Consequently, we have to ask all families to have the funeral home contact us or, if it is more convenient for the family, we will contact the funeral home and verify the information. I apologize for the red tape, but the policy protects us all. > Best regards, > Gary Connor > publisher > Corsicana Daily Sun > > > > > > ==== TXNAVARR Mailing List ==== > For more Navarro County genealogy and history, visit the GenWeb site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txnavarr/ >

Members-did you know that the CORSICANA DAILY SUN is charging to have obituaries placed in their paper? I didn't until I asked for my brother in law's to be published...needless to say it won't be published as I don't have that kind of loose change laying around...I think it is sad that they have reverted to doing this. So another expense for our deceased loved one added to the ever growing cost of funerals...what a shame. $$$$$$$ is the name of the game. Janice the Corsicana Daily Sun followed the path of many other newspapers in the country and began charging for obituaries. Our fee is, we believe, quite reasonable at $50 up to 15 inches of space. Second, we have developed a policy regarding the origin of obituary information. We ask that the funeral home submit or verify the obituary information to us. The reason for our having this policy in place is simply that on more than one occassion, false obituaries were submitted to us as a joke. No one thought they were funny, especially those of us at the newspaper. Consequently, we have to ask all families to have the funeral home contact us or, if it is more convenient for the family, we will contact the funeral home and verify the information. I apologize for the red tape, but the policy protects us all. Best regards, Gary Connor publisher Corsicana Daily Sun

I am sending this obit to the two list for some of you that may remember Mary "Mickey" Marshall of Rice TX back in the 50's. Regards Janice Funeral service for Calvin "Pete/Hoss" Sliger was held April 5, 2003, at Laurel Oaks Funeral Home Chapel with Dr. Charles Wilson and Brother Dyrle Phillips officiating. Interment at Laurel Oaks Memorial Park in Mesquite, TX. He was born July 15, 1926, in Johnston County Oklahoma and passed away April 2, 2003, at Baylor Hospital, Dallas TX, at the age of 76. He died after a long illness of emphysema/heart disease. Mr. Sliger was a retired City of Dallas employee, working in the equipment services division. He was a devoted member of First Baptist Church of Sunnyvale. Pete is survived by his loving wife of 52 years, the former Mary "Mickey" Marshall of Rice, TX. They met while Mary was working at the old bus station in Corsicana, TX in 1951 after serving in the Army during WW II , He served his country for 10 years. Sons and daughter-in-law. Rev. Jim and Donna Sliger, of Beaumont TX and Rick and Leatha Sliger of Garland TX,5 grandchildren and 1 great-grandson, brothers, Sam Sliger and Charles Sliger of OK, numerous other family members and a host of friends. He was preceded in death by one sister Hazel Reed of OK. and his parents William and Mae Sliger of OK.

Forgive me if this has already been posted. Tonight I stumbled into the 1930 Census extracts for the Texas Orphan Homes (includes the Corsicana home). Since I get so many requests for info, I thought I would pass this site on. I added a link to it from the Navarro County TXGenWeb site

Would like to exchange data on the following family from the Richland, Navarro CO, area. James Madison Williams born 1840 TN died 1913 buried Richland Cemetery s/o Richard Williams and Minerva Ellen Creswell married Octavia Alice McGary 1848-1927 in Bell CO, TX in 1866 d/o Daniel Hugh McGary & Sarah Ann Lindley children Daniel Richard "Dick" Williams 1867-1928 married Louvenia Catherine Pickett Mackie Williams 1869-1870 Mattie Elizabeth Williams 1871-1945 married William Lafayette Hunter later moved to Wood CO Dora Ellen Williams 1873-1957 married David Dobbins Anderson Minnie Ann Williams 1875-1946 married James Samuel Jones Mary Alice Williams 1877-1926 married J Oscar Hoard moved to Big Spring TX James Clinton Williams 1880-1919 married Dixie Mabry - no children Dock Starley Williams 1882-1968 married Mary J Blood, moved to Capitan, NM Sarah Gertrude Williams 1885-1964 married 1st Jack McNeilly married 2nd Lewis S "Les" Harrod Maude Eleanor Williams 1888-1980 married John Buford Harris John was a barber in Richland TX for many years Archie Williams 1893-1933 blinded in childhood, never married Thanks David Strickland dstrickland@optekinc.com

Thanks to everyone for all the information on both orphanages in Corsicana. One is now a juvenile detention center. I found out that the Clements in the orphanage was not the person I was researching. Thanks for so many responses! David

There was an H Clements, young teenager, in the 1900 soundex for an orphanage in Corsicana. Is this orphanage still around? If not, where would the records be? Thanks david strickland dstrickland@optekinc.com

In the 1900 census Soundex there was a Gus Clements in an orphanage in Corsicana. Is this orphanage still open? Address? If not, does anyone know where the records would be now? Thanks David Strickland dstrickland@optekinc.com

DID YOU KNOW? ... If you have ancestors buried on private property or government land that the law (at least in Texas) says that you have the right to visit their graves at least twice a year (First Sunday in April & First Sunday in October) from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. This year it is April 6, 2003. Section 711.041 of the Health and Safety Code provides you the rights of visitation during reasonable hours and for purposes associated with cemetery visits; however, the owner of the land surrounding the cemetery may designate the routes for reasonable access. If you cannot find the owner, or if the owner is an absentee landowner, check with the county tax appraisal office for the name and address of the owner. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~txstc/bridge/index.html">Save Texas Cemeteries, Inc.</A> has the guidelines to follow.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C2EDAE.F5E03840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Fwd: Legislation to close records This was sent to me by a > fellow genealogist....doesn't sound like a good idea for us that are > researching....thought you may be interested....Geraldine > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. SLJ ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C2EDAE.F5E03840 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Legislation to close records.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Legislation to close records.eml" X-Apparently-To: ceclinger@yahoo.com via 216.136.232.79; 17 Mar 2003 19:20:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <jameshollas@austin.rr.com> Received: from 24.93.36.229 (EHLO ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com) (24.93.36.229) by mta174.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 19:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.rr.com (cs6669196-98.austin.rr.com [66.69.196.98]) by ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h2I3Ai3M022301; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:10:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:18:23 -0600 From: James Hollas <jameshollas@austin.rr.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Legislation to close records Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2151 Dear Genealogist, Below is a message from Mic Barnett of Houston about the bills before the Texas Legislature that affect us as genealogists. Most of these bills would close or reduce access to records we use. Mic is the owner of Barnett Books and is a regular vendor at our Seminar. Last year his large area was in the middle of the vendor room. He also writes a Saturday column for the Houston Chronicle. Please read the message and get on the mail list and write letters to let your representatives know how you feel. Otherwise, we may lose even more access to the records. Thanks, James Hollas AGS President ---------------------------------------------------- Hi Everyone: As the Texas Liaison for the Joint (National Genealogical Society/Federation of Genealogical Societies) NGS-FGS Records Preservation and Access Committee I have set up both a website and email mailing list to aid us in lobbying the Texas Legislature. The Legislature currently has several bills pending which seek to close records to the public. Information about these bills is on the website. This website is a place where we can post information about particular bills and how to locate legislators to contact. The mailing list is designed as a forum for us genealogists to communicate quickly and be able to coordinate activities in quick mode should we have to do so. And we already have to do so. There is a hearing at 1:30 or whenever the committee earlier in the day adjourns- for the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee discussing SB81 and SB 85 which both want to close DD214-Military Discharge records in the county clerk's offices. The hearing will be held in the Betty King Committee Room in Austin. Anyone who attend is asked to do so I have included others from states outside the Republic of Texas in this email so they can see what we are doing here. They might wish to monitor what we do or just follow our lead and do something similar in their own state. The website is located at http://micbarnette.bravepages.com There is a page on the website where one may go to subscribe to the mailing list, however you may do so by following the attached directions The mailing list may be subscribed to by sending an email to TXLEGNOTES-L-request@rootsweb.com in the message area of the email type subscribe. There is a digest mode at TXLEGNOTES-D-request@rootsweb.com but it may be held up 12 hours before being sent. For speedier mail, at least during the legislative season when it might count, I would recommend subscribing to the L mode rather than the D mode. After the legislative season there may not be anything to say on this list. It will already have been said and voted upon. The basic things to be concerned with at his point is about 8 bills pending in the House and the Senate which aim to close DD214/Military Discharges in Texas. Plus two new bills, one in the House and one in the Senate wanting to extend the time birth records are closed in Texas from 50 years to 75 years. Plus a bill wanting to close marriage applications to the public. Plus TEXSHARE/TIFF funding for schools and libraries and electronic database access. Plus HIPPA which I don't know much about but which is expected to go into effect April 14 and will probably close records which have medical records or information in them. This bill effects insurance and medical companies and offices. I remember hearing some people talking about this last week they were not into genealogy. Now I have had someone in a county clerk's office ask me about the same thing and said it may affect their records. So, we may have to address this problem, too. The whole crux of closing public records is all about Identity Theft and the fear of it. People feel that if a record is available for use someone must be stealing their identity. So, Identity theft and how to protect public records from thieves and convince public officials not to pass laws closing them is going to be our goal at least as I envision it. Please pass this email to everyone in every society. We will need some some numbers to show the legislature we care. We are starting late in the legislative season and are therefore already behind. Thanks, MIC -- James Hollas 7704 Evaline Ln Austin, Tx 78745 (512) 280-1415 ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C2EDAE.F5E03840--

Would descendants of the following persons please contact me: Micajah T. and Lucinda J. Edwards, Chatfield, late 19th and early 20th centuries. Their children included: William P. Edwards, Sally Burks, Willis A. Edwards, Micajah T. Edwards, Jr., Mary Francis Hobbs, and Lucinda Brown. Also would like to contact descendants of Jonathan W. Hobbs, Rice as well as descendants of Bart Hobbs, Ashley Co. AR and Pascal Hobbs, Jefferson Co. AR. James C. Hobbs jjcontact@aol.com

i apologize, but i have been having email trouble...this is a test

I would appreciate any info on the Wilks A. Price family. He was married to the only daughter of Co. James Clinton Neill; Mary Harriet Neill. Believe she alive as late as l880.

I'm looking for information on a LANDRUM family. They would have moved to the area in about 1885 or so. Thanks, Rich Brannan

Would some kind soul do a lookup for me? I believe my g.g.g. grandmother died in Corsicana in 1895. Her Cherokee name was Mourning Glory.I found her in the 1880 census living with a "Hamilton" daughter.She may also have been living with a Franklin,Reese, or Bonner daughter in 1890 I'm not sure wheter or not that 1890 cnsus was destroyed/ Her first marriage was to Robert Guthrie in Giles County, TN. She married John Moody in AL and came to Texas after the Civil War. She had several chioldren by both husbands.I am grateeful for any info. Please contact me directly because I don't belong to all the lists. With deepest appreciation, Deborah in CA. .

There's an item up for bids on ebay right now that's said to be a daguerreotype of Joseph Young Roberts ca. late 1860s. It describes him as an important figure in Navarro County and Corsicana history. The image is reproduced on the ebay page: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3205027118&category=408 I am not the seller and am not interested in this item but wanted to publicize it in case someone interested in this man reads this list. I know nothing about the item, so please don't correspond with me about it; just check the ebay page at the above link. Roger Bartlett

I am searching for descendants of William Smith, who evidently died just before the 1880 census . I found him on the 1860 census but I haven't found him on the 1870 TX census as of yet. I also would like information on the family of Morgan Miller and his descendants.. 1860 Limestone co census P.O. Personville William Smith age 22 born TX Lucinda Smith wife age 17 born LA John W. Smith son age 9mo born TX Lucinda was the daughter of Morgan Miller and Elizabeth Smith ? from Claiborne Parish LA to Nacogdoches co 1850 . 1860 Limestone co census Elizabeth Miller head of household age 44 b IL Sarah E. Miller dau age 16 b LA R.A. (Rose) Miller dau age 14 b LA Martha Miller dau age 12 b LA 1880 Navarro co census Lucinda Smith widow age 40 b LA Jane Smith dau age 11 b TX Alley Smith dau age 6 b TX Pink Smith dau age 1 b TX 1850 Nacogdoches co TX census Morgan Miller age 37 b KY Elizabeth Miller wife age 39 b IL John Miller age 22 b LA Gilbert Miller age 17 b LA Eliza Miller age 13 b LA Lucinda Miller age 7 b LA Benjamin Miller age 14 b LA Sarah Miller age 6 b LA Rose Miller age 4 b LA Catherine Miller age 4 b LA I am not a Smith descendant ( at least not this line but do have an Ezekiel) . My 3rd GGF was Morgan Miller listed in my query. His daughter Eliza married Joshua Haworth Wright in Andersoncounty TX, settled in Bell co where they lived until death. My main purpose behind my query is to find out what happened to Morgan Miller and his sons John and Benjamin. They disappeared between the 1850-1860 census. I had an elderly cousin since deceased who told me that they were hung as horse thieves. Evidently something happened as I have searched over twelve years without a clue. The other son Gilbert was on the 1860 Limestone co census , enumerated with another family as a hired hand. He is again listed on the 1870 McLennan co TX census with his wife and mother Elizabeth, then he disappears. I am hoping to make contact with descendants of Morgan Miller , hoping someone else knows this story. Many Thanks, Pat in OK

In a message dated 1/26/2003 12:02:34 AM Central Standard Time, TXNAVARR-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > look-up for me in Panola County, Texas? I > need the birth date and middle name for Robert W. Caston. The middle > name is probably Walton but I'm not sure. Robert was born in Carthage, > Panola County, in the early 1950's. This was simple enough, first you go to the county in question "Panola" then lookup births. Start with 1950 go from there. Caston, Robert William 11-18-1952 M Panola

Is there anyone who will do a look-up for me in Panola County, Texas? I need the birth date and middle name for Robert W. Caston. The middle name is probably Walton but I'm not sure. Robert was born in Carthage, Panola County, in the early 1950's. His father was Luther Preston Caston and his mother was Kathryn Jeanne Walton Caston. I don't need a copy of the birth certificate. I just need the date Robert was born and his middle name. He probably didn't attend school in Carthage because the family moved to Longview possibly before he was school age. I appreciate any help anyone can give me. Anne Walton Wilson 7 Thirsk Lane Bella Vista, Ar. 72714 479-855-9686 anne-wilson@juno.com

Thanks for the Feedback and Ideas for the Navarro County Classmates Project Every response has been postive and some folks are already wanting to sign up. Because of the postive feedback received, I am going to give this a shot. I have set up a series of Navarro Classmates Pages at the Navarro County TXGenWeb site (by school, then year, then last name). eMail address will be JAVA SCRIPT ENCODED to protect them from Web Crawlers that browse around scrapeing eMail addresses for SPAM (or Junk Mail) I personally feel this is a good thing for promoting interest in Genealogy as well as finding old classmates. Find a classmate, find pics of the old schools, home town, and pics of Uncle Bob at the same site ! What a better way to get others to join in with this hobby and promote interest in Navarro County history. We can also post short notes for classmates who have passed away or links to Biographies or Obituaries posted at the Navarro County TXGenWeb. >From other sites, I have located several cousins and swapped information, thanks to similar contact lists. I hope this works out well and that we get as good of participation as the "Pay For" sites. PS: If you want to post a note with out your eMail address, we can do that as well; such as "Married Bob Jones, Living in Utah" for example. Edward L. Williams Navarro County TXGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~txnavarr ewilli01@flash.net