This is how I have one of the GRIMES families found in Nacogdoches by circa 1860 You mention Monroe GRIMES who was born in Monroe County, Alabama on 14 Nov. 1827 Uncle Roe, as he was called, was the brother to my gg grandmother, Celia GRIMES who was married to William Jefferson SCOGIN(there are many ways of spelling this name) . All of them were born in Monroe County and moved to Texas as a family. Monroe GRIMES was the son of Allen GRIMES and Elizabeth BARNES The 1860 Census for Monroe County AL, Burnt Corn District, Roll 18, Page 17, Line 7 is found their family still in AL Allen Grimes 64 GA Elizabeth 59 TN Catherine 20 AL Allen 19 AL Caleb 17 AL Willis (?) 13 AL James 11 AL in the next household Line 18 William Grimes 33 AL Arvilla [Mimms] 34 AL Amanda 11 AL John 8 AL Cynthia 6 AL Susan 4 AL Alabama 2 AL Children who are no longer living in the household are Elizabeth b. ca 1821, Monroe (as mentioned above), Celia (also above), Daniel M. b. 11 Feb 1830, Dorson b. ca 1838, and Caleb was Lindsey Caleb b. ca 1842. Since Monroe and Sarah Grimes were not my direct line I apparently did not collect further records on them but I do have a book written by Grover C. Anderson "Wright and Susan Scogin, Their Descendants and Related Families". While this is not primary information I trust his research. They were in Leake County, MS in 1850 but I do not have that census roll or page but they are living in the vicinity of (his in-laws) Wright and Susan SCOGIN. (Roll 376, Page 29A). No marriage record was found for them but they were in MS long enough to have 4 children. In 1860, again from the book, Monroe and Sarah are in Angelina County, TX. In the 1870 census, Monroe and Sarah are household #86, and Wright SCOGIN is household #84 in Nacogdoches County. Roll 1599 Page 12 (or 427B) Line 18 GRIMES, Munroe 46 AL Sarah 39 AL John M. 19 MS Ramsy 16 MS Joshua 15 MS Willis 13 MS Francis 12 TX Wright 10 TX Talifaro 8 TX Benjamin 6 TX Dawson 4 TX Sarah 2 TX (At last a girl) Daniel 4/12 b. June TX Hope this helps. Allene in CA -----Original Message----- From: CGT714@aol.com <CGT714@aol.com> To: TXNACOGD-L@rootsweb.com <TXNACOGD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: [TXNAC] Nacogdoches Grimes vital statistics research >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Grimes, Brewer, Bates, Barron, Scrogins, Miller, Chistopher, >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kkB.2ACE/934 > >Message Board Post: > >>From Billy Jack Worsham, He ask me to post this >------ >Nacogdoches Grimes vital statistics research: > >[bjw: Researching the Nacogdoches County, Vital Records shows]: >George Jefferson Grimes (brother of John Newton Grimes) >Sons of John Chester ? Grimes b ca 1833 Ky , Ills , or Mo??. > >child: GRIMES, George Chester (only had Chester, and date of ABT.1903 up till now: bjw) >Mother: MILLER, Mary Tex Anna (this is where I got her first name. I only had Texanna ? up till now: bjw) >Father: GRIMES, George Jefferson (this is where I got his middle name. Only had middle initial "J" up till now: bjw) >Date on Document: 11/21/1902 > >[bjw: Researching the Nacogdoches County, Vital Records shows]: >Daniel Monroe Grimes: s/o Monroe and Sarah A Scogins Grimes >child: GRIMES, Robert Toliver (had Bobby T. up to this point: bjw) >Mother: BARRON, Nova Estelle (had Nova E. Barron. Did not know middle name up to this point: bjw) >Father: GRIMES, Daniel Monroe (had Daniel M. Did not know middle name up to this point. I had assumed, but no documentation: bjw) >Date on Document: 03/02/1900 (had b. ABT 1899: bjw) > >[bjw: Researching the Nacogdoches County, Vital Records shows]: >Lura Jefferson Grimes (daughter of Daniel Monroe and Nova Estelle Barron Grimes) > >child: BATES, Mamie Louise (did not have this child till now: bjw) >Mother: GRIMES, Lura Jefferson (I only had the middle initial "J" till now: bjw) >Father: BATES, James Elbert (unknown till now: bjw) >Date on Document: 12/24/1915 (did not have: bjw) > >[bjw: Researching the Nacogdoches County, Vital Records shows]: >Elizabeth Grimes (d/o Willis Jasper and Elizabeth Bonaparte Christopher Grimes) >child: BREWER, Herman >Mother: GRIMES, Elizabeth >Father: BREWER, Jim Lawrence (had James "L", middle name unknown till now: bjw) >Date on Document: 07/17/1905 (did not have: bjw) > > >[bjw: Researching the Nacogdoches County, Vital Records shows]: >John Thomas Grimes (son of Benjamin Abner and Leonora Rightner Grimes) my Great-Grandfather >child: GRIMES, Katherine Estelle (my Grandmother) >Mother: CHRISTIE, Hattie >Father: GRIMES, John Thomas (this is the first time I have seen his middle name on official records) >Date on Document: 01/16/1920 > >child: GRIMES, Lurline >Mother: CHRISTIE, Hattie >Father: GRIMES, John Thomas >Date on Document: 03/04/1915 > >If anyone can add anything please do so . > > Christine G. Thacker > >