Well, folks, This is exactly why I always hesitate to jump on people. I have just sent several messages to the list that were intended to go privately -- just what I had been asking you all NOT to do. I think we are all tired and upset and stressed over this controversy and need to take a deep breath and move on. I apologize to those people whose messages went to the whole list. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: [email protected] Listowner (with egg on her face) TXNACOGD-L