To REPLY to this message, please be sure to send it to me at [email protected] Dear TXNACOGD friends, PLEASE! The Obits questions is resolved and there is no reason whatsoever for dozens and dozens of controversial letters regarding the subject to continue to be sent to this list. Janie Hinton sent a series of obits from the Houston Chronicle to several mailing lists, including TXNACOGD and EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS. They were a valuable contribution that was appropriate to EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS but less so to TXNACOGD because it is a list that is specifically focused on Nacogdoches County. I wrote to Janie privately, but the email bounced, so I did nothing further. When people began to complain, I wrote again and sent it to the list. Janie Hinton was fully cooperative and very, very nice about it, something which I thoroughly appreciated. I also wrote and emphasized that the Houston Chronicle obits would continue to be posted to East-Texas-Roots. I also gave this list the address where obituaries for Nacogdoches *that are not copyrighted* can be posted. There is also a GenConnect Board for Obituaries for Harris County, TX (Houston). I always hate to jump on people, because I know there are new people who are just starting to use their computer for the first time and all of this is so overwhelming. But the time has come for people to STOP, look and listen. Please, read all the messages from a list before you hit the reply key. There are too many messages that refer to things that have *already* been resolved. THINK about the implications of jumping into the fray with your opinion. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by ventilating your opinion on the list. It clogs up the list and people who have ancestors in Nacogdoches who want to exchange information, and may possibly have the info *you* need will get disgusted and quit. I've had nearly 3 dozen unsubs from this list in the last few days. I think maybe many of the people who are expressing these opinions don't understand the purpose of a county mailing list and/or have confused the two lists: TXNACOGD and EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS. So, please pay attention. EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS was started several years ago, because there was *nothing like it* at the time. It is broadly based and covers ALL of the eastern part of the state. That includes Harris Co, and Houston. It is appropriate for the obits to be posted there and I have asked Janie to continue posting them there, and if she is not too upset by all of this, they will continue to be posted there. Period. TXNACOGD is a *county-specific* mailing list. There is a mailing list for EVERY COUNTY in the state of Texas, so there is no need, nor is it appropriate to put a lot of material not related *directly* to Nacogdoches, on this list. Naturally, there is always going to be some overlap. Naturally, some people in Nacogdoches are going to be very interested in the Houston obits, and as long as there were no complaints, I was reluctant to stop them. But now I have decided in favor of the obits being posted on EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS (if Janie so desires) and not on TXNACOGD. Period. The purpose of TXNACOGD is to discuss the genealogy, families and history of Nacogdoches County. It is a place for all researchers who have ancestry in this county to "meet" and exchange information. If it pertains to Nacogdoches County genealogy or history, it is most likely appropriate here. What's not appropriate is a continuing discussion of whether are not Houston Chronicle obits are helpful or not helpful to YOU, and what other lists are doing about them and what you think of what someone else did or said. What is even *less* appropriate is the rudeness and name-calling that people are getting into. That kind of behavior is *never* appropriate. Period. It comes when people are already tired and stressed and get frustrated with off-topic messages. But it is still up to you to restrain yourselves, to recognize that even if you are frustrated, venting *only makes the situation worse*. Please do NOT hit the reply key. Delete the messages. Get off the computer. Wait a day or so. Write to me privately at [email protected] But don't write an angry, frustrated and frankly rude letter to the list that will be archived for your grandchildren and great-grandchildren to read and wonder at your hot temper. Also, please remember that this list is not moderated, and understand what that means. It means that any subscriber can write any message to the list and I do not see it until it comes in my mailbox, and it already on the list. The only recourse I have is to ask you kindly NOT to post inappropriate opinion messages and not to be rude and not to indulge in name-calling. The only other thing I can do is start putting people on the "reject list". A lot of listowners do this routinely. I prefer to negotiate and explain and educate and work with people. In all my years as a listowner, I have never had to reject anyone, and I do not want to start now. Please use your common sense and good judgment, whether you are new or whether you have been on for a while. When you write your "opinion" about something like the obits question, especially in response to someone else's "opinion" -- you create a situation that is much *worse* than the original situation that you are complaining about. This is really getting out of hand, and I am counting on your common sense, good judgment, and sense of cooperation, fair play and neighborliness to put this behind us and move on. Please do not send any more "opinions" about the obit question to the list. My email is [email protected] Janie Hinton's is [email protected]ex.net. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: [email protected] Listowner: TXNACOGD-L ****** Dear Carolyn, I am sending this letter privately to all of those who have commented on the obits question on TXNACOGD recently. I hope it will help to clarify for you that the issue isn't whether or not the obits are valuable, whether or not Janie was being helpful or not. The issue was that this particular list, TXNACOGD is specifically focused on just one county: Nacogdoches. There are county lists for every county in Texas, and there is a large mailing list for East-Texas-Roots IN ADDITION to the county lists. It has been my decision as list manager that the obits are appropriate for East-Texas-Roots (I do not manage the Harris Co list) but not for Nacogdoches. Anyone from Nacogdoches who is interested in the obits is welcome to subscribe to East-Texas-Roots where they will continue to be published (if Janie Hinton so chooses). You are absolutely right that the whole purpose of all of this is to SHARE information. It is just a matter of getting the information to the appropriate lists. These lists aren't perfect but MUCH better than nothing. I think these controversies arise and continue because of the "lags" in time, where some people don't realize that a situation has already been taken care of. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Unidentified subject!HELP! > > > GENEALOGY to me is the search and hope and rememberance of our LOVED ONES. > We all gather and exchange information so that we may re connect to our > FAMILIES > I do not understand those that complain about this on here. > Why should all of us, that WANT to find information on our FAMILY > be denied > access to information that can help us find our FAMILY? > Persons with VERY KIND, CARING HEARTS taking the time to help us all. > They, from what I have seen get pushed off by afew. > I have to say, I had very little information on my Grandfather, > and IF NOT > FOR for THOSE OF YOU that ARE SO GREAT in HELPING, I would'nt > have found the > MANY connecting Families I have. THANK YOU > It is very Nice that some of you don't need the information. But, > There are > those of us that look at ALL information. > Could you, who are farther along in your research some how, just > CLICK DELETE? > So that, those of us who need and want ALL we can Find on our > FAMILIES, will > not be excuded? > If not for all you HELPERS out here, we would have to be paying for this > WONDERFUL INFO. So, who are these complainers, that want to find their > FAMILIES, but want to pick and chose the information that is provided. > I for one, want any and all information on My FAMILIES. > Whenever I see something, not needed, I simply hit delete, not > complain about > information that is ment for all to SHARE. > Carolyn >

To REPLY to this message, please be sure to send it to me at [email protected] Dear TXNACOGD friends, PLEASE! The Obits questions is resolved and there is no reason whatsoever for dozens and dozens of controversial letters regarding the subject to continue to be sent to this list. Janie Hinton sent a series of obits from the Houston Chronicle to several mailing lists, including TXNACOGD and EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS. They were a valuable contribution that was appropriate to EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS but less so to TXNACOGD because it is a list that is specifically focused on Nacogdoches County. I wrote to Janie privately, but the email bounced, so I did nothing further. When people began to complain, I wrote again and sent it to the list. Janie Hinton was fully cooperative and very, very nice about it, something which I thoroughly appreciated. I also wrote and emphasized that the Houston Chronicle obits would continue to be posted to East-Texas-Roots. I also gave this list the address where obituaries for Nacogdoches *that are not copyrighted* can be posted. There is also a GenConnect Board for Obituaries for Harris County, TX (Houston). I always hate to jump on people, because I know there are new people who are just starting to use their computer for the first time and all of this is so overwhelming. But the time has come for people to STOP, look and listen. Please, read all the messages from a list before you hit the reply key. There are too many messages that refer to things that have *already* been resolved. THINK about the implications of jumping into the fray with your opinion. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by ventilating your opinion on the list. It clogs up the list and people who have ancestors in Nacogdoches who want to exchange information, and may possibly have the info *you* need will get disgusted and quit. I've had nearly 3 dozen unsubs from this list in the last few days. I think maybe many of the people who are expressing these opinions don't understand the purpose of a county mailing list and/or have confused the two lists: TXNACOGD and EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS. So, please pay attention. EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS was started several years ago, because there was *nothing like it* at the time. It is broadly based and covers ALL of the eastern part of the state. That includes Harris Co, and Houston. It is appropriate for the obits to be posted there and I have asked Janie to continue posting them there, and if she is not too upset by all of this, they will continue to be posted there. Period. TXNACOGD is a *county-specific* mailing list. There is a mailing list for EVERY COUNTY in the state of Texas, so there is no need, nor is it appropriate to put a lot of material not related *directly* to Nacogdoches, on this list. Naturally, there is always going to be some overlap. Naturally, some people in Nacogdoches are going to be very interested in the Houston obits, and as long as there were no complaints, I was reluctant to stop them. But now I have decided in favor of the obits being posted on EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS (if Janie so desires) and not on TXNACOGD. Period. The purpose of TXNACOGD is to discuss the genealogy, families and history of Nacogdoches County. It is a place for all researchers who have ancestry in this county to "meet" and exchange information. If it pertains to Nacogdoches County genealogy or history, it is most likely appropriate here. What's not appropriate is a continuing discussion of whether are not Houston Chronicle obits are helpful or not helpful to YOU, and what other lists are doing about them and what you think of what someone else did or said. What is even *less* appropriate is the rudeness and name-calling that people are getting into. That kind of behavior is *never* appropriate. Period. It comes when people are already tired and stressed and get frustrated with off-topic messages. But it is still up to you to restrain yourselves, to recognize that even if you are frustrated, venting *only makes the situation worse*. Please do NOT hit the reply key. Delete the messages. Get off the computer. Wait a day or so. Write to me privately at [email protected] But don't write an angry, frustrated and frankly rude letter to the list that will be archived for your grandchildren and great-grandchildren to read and wonder at your hot temper. Also, please remember that this list is not moderated, and understand what that means. It means that any subscriber can write any message to the list and I do not see it until it comes in my mailbox, and it already on the list. The only recourse I have is to ask you kindly NOT to post inappropriate opinion messages and not to be rude and not to indulge in name-calling. The only other thing I can do is start putting people on the "reject list". A lot of listowners do this routinely. I prefer to negotiate and explain and educate and work with people. In all my years as a listowner, I have never had to reject anyone, and I do not want to start now. Please use your common sense and good judgment, whether you are new or whether you have been on for a while. When you write your "opinion" about something like the obits question, especially in response to someone else's "opinion" -- you create a situation that is much *worse* than the original situation that you are complaining about. This is really getting out of hand, and I am counting on your common sense, good judgment, and sense of cooperation, fair play and neighborliness to put this behind us and move on. Please do not send any more "opinions" about the obit question to the list. My email is [email protected] Janie Hinton's is [email protected] Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: [email protected] Listowner: TXNACOGD-L Hello, Rebecca, I felt your thoughts were thoughtful and helpful, BUT we do need to move on from this topics. I am sending this message privately to everyone who has posted recently re: the obits question on TXNACOGD. I hope it will clarify the situation for you and others. Thanks very much. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: [email protected] Listowner: TXNACOGD-L > -----Original Message----- > From: Rebecca [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: obits on line > > > I guess I will jump on the bandwagon. I had corresponded with a very > wonderful gentleman newfounded third cousin of mine for quite sometime. > His children didn't know much about our correspondence because they > didn't care about genealogy. Therefore, they did not know me. I had > not heard from him in quite sometime, and without the ( current ) obits > that were posted on the site I was on, I would not have known that he > had been ill and passed away. It was a great loss to me because he was > such a kind person. I did get to meet him one time during our > searching. I am so glad that I did, and I miss him. This is how > posting current obits helped me. For those that wish to view the > current Houston Chronicle obits. They can go to, I think > www.houstonchronicle.com. I think that is the correct url. I know that > I view the Hunt Co. obits in the Greenville Newspaper everyday and have > found where cousins have moved to by doing so. Usually because if a > person lived in the area for a long time an obit will be placed in the > local paper. > And believe you me, some of those that I have found have lived to be in > their 90's. So if you are searching for someone born around 1900. They > could either still be living , or could be passing away at any time. > > I promise I won't say anything else about this, but just wanted to point > out the usefulness of current obits. No matter where they are posted. > > Rebecca > > [email protected] > See my web page at http://community.webtv.net/AmericafayeII/Reflections0 >

To REPLY to this message, please be sure to send it to me at [email protected] Dear TXNACOGD friends, PLEASE! The Obits questions is resolved and there is no reason whatsoever for dozens and dozens of controversial letters regarding the subject to continue to be sent to this list. Janie Hinton sent a series of obits from the Houston Chronicle to several mailing lists, including TXNACOGD and EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS. They were a valuable contribution that was appropriate to EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS but less so to TXNACOGD because it is a list that is specifically focused on Nacogdoches County. I wrote to Janie privately, but the email bounced, so I did nothing further. When people began to complain, I wrote again and sent it to the list. Janie Hinton was fully cooperative and very, very nice about it, something which I thoroughly appreciated. I also wrote and emphasized that the Houston Chronicle obits would continue to be posted to East-Texas-Roots. I also gave this list the address where obituaries for Nacogdoches *that are not copyrighted* can be posted. There is also a GenConnect Board for Obituaries for Harris County, TX (Houston). I always hate to jump on people, because I know there are new people who are just starting to use their computer for the first time and all of this is so overwhelming. But the time has come for people to STOP, look and listen. Please, read all the messages from a list before you hit the reply key. There are too many messages that refer to things that have *already* been resolved. THINK about the implications of jumping into the fray with your opinion. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by ventilating your opinion on the list. It clogs up the list and people who have ancestors in Nacogdoches who want to exchange information, and may possibly have the info *you* need will get disgusted and quit. I've had nearly 3 dozen unsubs from this list in the last few days. I think maybe many of the people who are expressing these opinions don't understand the purpose of a county mailing list and/or have confused the two lists: TXNACOGD and EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS. So, please pay attention. EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS was started several years ago, because there was *nothing like it* at the time. It is broadly based and covers ALL of the eastern part of the state. That includes Harris Co, and Houston. It is appropriate for the obits to be posted there and I have asked Janie to continue posting them there, and if she is not too upset by all of this, they will continue to be posted there. Period. TXNACOGD is a *county-specific* mailing list. There is a mailing list for EVERY COUNTY in the state of Texas, so there is no need, nor is it appropriate to put a lot of material not related *directly* to Nacogdoches, on this list. Naturally, there is always going to be some overlap. Naturally, some people in Nacogdoches are going to be very interested in the Houston obits, and as long as there were no complaints, I was reluctant to stop them. But now I have decided in favor of the obits being posted on EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS (if Janie so desires) and not on TXNACOGD. Period. The purpose of TXNACOGD is to discuss the genealogy, families and history of Nacogdoches County. It is a place for all researchers who have ancestry in this county to "meet" and exchange information. If it pertains to Nacogdoches County genealogy or history, it is most likely appropriate here. What's not appropriate is a continuing discussion of whether are not Houston Chronicle obits are helpful or not helpful to YOU, and what other lists are doing about them and what you think of what someone else did or said. What is even *less* appropriate is the rudeness and name-calling that people are getting into. That kind of behavior is *never* appropriate. Period. It comes when people are already tired and stressed and get frustrated with off-topic messages. But it is still up to you to restrain yourselves, to recognize that even if you are frustrated, venting *only makes the situation worse*. Please do NOT hit the reply key. Delete the messages. Get off the computer. Wait a day or so. Write to me privately at [email protected] But don't write an angry, frustrated and frankly rude letter to the list that will be archived for your grandchildren and great-grandchildren to read and wonder at your hot temper. Also, please remember that this list is not moderated, and understand what that means. It means that any subscriber can write any message to the list and I do not see it until it comes in my mailbox, and it already on the list. The only recourse I have is to ask you kindly NOT to post inappropriate opinion messages and not to be rude and not to indulge in name-calling. The only other thing I can do is start putting people on the "reject list". A lot of listowners do this routinely. I prefer to negotiate and explain and educate and work with people. In all my years as a listowner, I have never had to reject anyone, and I do not want to start now. Please use your common sense and good judgment, whether you are new or whether you have been on for a while. When you write your "opinion" about something like the obits question, especially in response to someone else's "opinion" -- you create a situation that is much *worse* than the original situation that you are complaining about. This is really getting out of hand, and I am counting on your common sense, good judgment, and sense of cooperation, fair play and neighborliness to put this behind us and move on. Please do not send any more "opinions" about the obit question to the list. My email is [email protected] Janie Hinton's is [email protected] Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: [email protected] Listowner: TXNACOGD-L

Sue, It's just too bad everyone could not have been as nice as you. Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Houston Chronicle Obits 10/31/1999 >I presume you have taken a poll on that? What I meant was this: Suppose >everyone on the list decided to send in the obits from their daily papers. I >could send you Austin's. This could go on until everyone had included his or >her paper's obits on the list. Don't you see how that would clog up >everybody's e-mail with information they were not interested in? It is not >as simple as pushing the delete button once. You then have to remove the >same mail from storage. > >I am sure she was well-intentioned, but what she was sending just did not >pertain to the Nacogdoches County list, which is why I, and I feel like most >of us, subscribed to the list in the first place. > >

I simply can't deal with all the negative e-mail. It is in itself cluttering up my system. It is hard for me to understand but from now on anyone who wants the Houston Chronicle obits can go to www.houstonchronicle.com. Very disheartened. Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 7:59 AM Subject: Re: FROM THE LISTOWNER: OBITS for Nacogdoches and for Houston >I live in Michigan but am from Houston. My great-grandparents Satterwhite and >Hallmarks settled in Nacogdoches and Crocket and sourounding areas. I love >getting the obits. If you don't post them, could you still send them out to >us who enjoy them by e-mail? Thanks so much for your time and efforts to help >us who can't be there to do it ourselves. Helynn Sayan > >

Hello: Why don"t you do a list once a week...... I amgetting tired of deleting all that information I wish I could be left off the obit list................ Jon. Janie Hinton wrote: > Dear List members, > > I really appreciate all the positive feedback I have gotten from my posting Houston, TX Chronicle obits the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, I have also been blasted very severely by some very rude people who don't want to have their e-mail cluttered up with this service. Therefore, I have decided to discontinue my posts. I too am very busy and do not have time to read responses from rude people to something I wanted to do to try to help them. If you still want to check the Houston Chronicle obits everyday they can be found at www.houstonchronicle.com. > > Again, thank you for all the nice comments and I hope I have at least helped someone. > > Janie Brown Hinton > > Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y Janie Hinton wrote: > Dear List members, > > I really appreciate all the positive feedback I have gotten from my posting Houston, TX Chronicle obits the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, I have also been blasted very severely by some very rude people who don't want to have their e-mail cluttered up with this service. Therefore, I have decided to discontinue my posts. I too am very busy and do not have time to read responses from rude people to something I wanted to do to try to help them. If you still want to check the Houston Chronicle obits everyday they can be found at www.houstonchronicle.com. > > Again, thank you for all the nice comments and I hope I have at least helped someone. > > Janie Brown Hinton > > Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y

Dear List members, I really appreciate all the positive feedback I have gotten from my posting Houston, TX Chronicle obits the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, I have also been blasted very severely by some very rude people who don't want to have their e-mail cluttered up with this service. Therefore, I have decided to discontinue my posts. I too am very busy and do not have time to read responses from rude people to something I wanted to do to try to help them. If you still want to check the Houston Chronicle obits everyday they can be found at www.houstonchronicle.com. Again, thank you for all the nice comments and I hope I have at least helped someone. Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y

I guess I will jump on the bandwagon. I had corresponded with a very wonderful gentleman newfounded third cousin of mine for quite sometime. His children didn't know much about our correspondence because they didn't care about genealogy. Therefore, they did not know me. I had not heard from him in quite sometime, and without the ( current ) obits that were posted on the site I was on, I would not have known that he had been ill and passed away. It was a great loss to me because he was such a kind person. I did get to meet him one time during our searching. I am so glad that I did, and I miss him. This is how posting current obits helped me. For those that wish to view the current Houston Chronicle obits. They can go to, I think www.houstonchronicle.com. I think that is the correct url. I know that I view the Hunt Co. obits in the Greenville Newspaper everyday and have found where cousins have moved to by doing so. Usually because if a person lived in the area for a long time an obit will be placed in the local paper. And believe you me, some of those that I have found have lived to be in their 90's. So if you are searching for someone born around 1900. They could either still be living , or could be passing away at any time. I promise I won't say anything else about this, but just wanted to point out the usefulness of current obits. No matter where they are posted. Rebecca [email protected] See my web page at http://community.webtv.net/AmericafayeII/Reflections0

Marion, I agree that later obits are pretty easy to access if you go to the right place, but a lot of people work full time (me) and have very full lives and don't have a lot of time to "travel" to where they need to go to get info. Info from a list you are subscribed to can be invaluable in saving precious time. Thank you so much for you kind, polite observation. Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y -----Original Message----- From: marion donaldson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 8:52 AM Subject: Re: obits on line >I also have posted obits on a Ky. list that I am on,from my father's scrap >book. However, I started with the oldest obits and stopped before getting >to the 1940s as I assumed that after that time people had access to that >information. The older obits are so valuable as they gave world's of data >on the person who had died. My grandmother's in 1898,for instance, gave me >three to four generations prior to her,was a gold mine and I have it in his >scrapbook. Everyone should be so fortunate. > >Just my thoughts on obits, >Marion > >

I also have posted obits on a Ky. list that I am on,from my father's scrap book. However, I started with the oldest obits and stopped before getting to the 1940s as I assumed that after that time people had access to that information. The older obits are so valuable as they gave world's of data on the person who had died. My grandmother's in 1898,for instance, gave me three to four generations prior to her,was a gold mine and I have it in his scrapbook. Everyone should be so fortunate. Just my thoughts on obits, Marion

List Members: Is there anyone on this list researching the following names? BRUCE, HARRIS, PRYOR, CARLOCK If so, I'd really like to talk to you. Thanks. Sharon

That is a good idea, but the reason I started posting the current obits is because a few weeks ago I saw a surname of my late husband's side of the family and after reading it, I was certain it was a relative of his. Being a widow myself, I waited an appropriate amount of time and then contact the late man's wife. She was able to give me a wealth of information. I thought someone else might benefit as well. Janie Brown Hinton Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y -----Original Message----- From: Blondie Mock <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:53 PM Subject: obits on line i think having an easy referance to names and dates this way is great, but perhaps we should set and age or date frame to ease the congestion.. like have date 1900-1950 or earllier, or anyone who died over the age of 90? It has to save someone a great deal of searching, I live in a area where dying at 100+ is no big thing...<vbg> Also looking for: BODLE,Alice Catherine, FILIPPINI,Carlo(Charles), LONGAN, William Edward, MOCK,Harry Theodore ==== GEN-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== GEN-NEWBIE messages are sent *only* once. If you are receiving muliple copies of messages, it might be caused by people replying to the list, and making a cc to the list also.

Troyce, I grew up in Ore City, but I didn't know any Vaught's. There was a family of Vaughn's. Allen :-(

RESEARCH PEOPLE! WHO IS AFRAID OF ALL THE KNOWLEGE THAT IS BEING SHARED? MAYBE SOME HAVE THE WRONG THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT SHARING IS AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE GIVE AN ALL DAY SUCKER< SO THOSE OF US WHO WISH AND PRAY FOR THE DAY WHEN WE FIND A GRANDFATHER THAT FOUGHT FOR THE FREEDOM OF ALL. THE COMPLAINERS WILL SEE IT WAS NOT FOR THEIR FREEDOM ALONE BUT FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COULD YOU, WHOEVER YOU ARE UPSET THIS KIND GIVING PERSON??????? I SEE ALOT OF SPOILED CHILDREN, THROWING THEIR FITS!!!!!! WHY NOT TAKE YOUR TOYS HOME AND LET US WHO WANT TO SHARE< SHARE> TAKERS< NOT >GIVERS > IS WHAT YOU ARE

GENEALOGY to me is the search and hope and rememberance of our LOVED ONES. We all gather and exchange information so that we may re connect to our FAMILIES I do not understand those that complain about this on here. Why should all of us, that WANT to find information on our FAMILY be denied access to information that can help us find our FAMILY? Persons with VERY KIND, CARING HEARTS taking the time to help us all. They, from what I have seen get pushed off by afew. I have to say, I had very little information on my Grandfather, and IF NOT FOR for THOSE OF YOU that ARE SO GREAT in HELPING, I would'nt have found the MANY connecting Families I have. THANK YOU It is very Nice that some of you don't need the information. But, There are those of us that look at ALL information. Could you, who are farther along in your research some how, just CLICK DELETE? So that, those of us who need and want ALL we can Find on our FAMILIES, will not be excuded? If not for all you HELPERS out here, we would have to be paying for this WONDERFUL INFO. So, who are these complainers, that want to find their FAMILIES, but want to pick and chose the information that is provided. I for one, want any and all information on My FAMILIES. Whenever I see something, not needed, I simply hit delete, not complain about information that is ment for all to SHARE. Carolyn

Hi Troyce Umm, well I graduated with a boy from Cushing, Nacogdoches Co., Texas in 1983 and his name was Kerry Vaught. His mother was some kind of teacher at Cushing. I don't know if this helps but you might can look up there names in the Nacogdoches phone book. His mother may still live in Cushing. Cushing is about 25 miles from Nacogdoches. Hope this may be of help:) Rhonda [email protected] wrote: > --part1_0.da335e63.25524f98_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --part1_0.da335e63.25524f98_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Full-name: Hendr0693 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:39:45 EST > Subject: Vaught family in Nacogdoches > To: [email protected] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 218 > > Hello everyone, > My mother is a Vaught from Shelby county. Her father, James Oscar Vaught > b.Feb 23, 1897- d. Feb.23, 1978 in Shelby county, told her that his G.F., > Peter Vaught, I have no dates- came from Nacogdoches. My G.F. also told my > mother that Peter had three brothers and that two of them moved out of state > but that Peter and his other brother stayed around Nacogdoches. Peter's son > was Pinckney Vaught, again no dates. I have looked at the cemetery records in > Nacogdoches and haven't found anything on a Peter Vaught. Pinckney, we were > told by my G.F. was buried in Ore City in Upshur county. I haven't found > anything in Upshur county on any Vaught's. If anyone knows of any Vaught > history or knows of any Vaught's please contact me. My mother has 11 > brother's and sister's and they have a Vaught family reunion every April in > the Stockman community just outside of Timpson. I am trying to find our > history for our reuion. My mother's oldest sibling is 82 and my mother, the > youngest in the family, is 62. Any help from someone knowing anything would > be greatly appreciated. > Thank you, > Troyce Hendricks > > --part1_0.da335e63.25524f98_boundary--

Loads of people have asked me for the latest information on this book. The reprint is a 'done deal'. It is at the binders and will be shipped *very* shortly. The books will be shipped to the Nacogdoches Genealogical Society who will then ship copies to those who have paid in full. If you paid a $50 deposit, you will be notified to send the balance, and your book will be shipped as soon as it is received. If you are just now ordering, be sure to send the FULL AMOUNT so that you will get your book without any further delay, once it arrives. NACOGDOCHES COUNTY FAMILIES BOOK IS BEING REPRINTED! RESERVE YOUR COPIES NOW! The large black 'Nacogdoches County Families book published in 1985 and now out of print, IS BEING REPRINTED NOW and will be available in October. This a large, handsome hardbound book that contains 752 pages, 1203 family sketches with hundreds of photographs. At the front, there is are extensive sections on early physicians, early schools, churches, and communities in Nacogdoches County. If you are doing family research in Nacogdoches County, this is a tremendously valuable book to own and keep and refer to and study, as opposed to just looking at it at the library. Even if your ancestors do not have an article devoted to them, they may be mentioned in an article pertaining to a collateral line. There is a tremendous amount of information about early Nacogdoches County in this volume. The total price will be $75.00 plus $6.19 sales tax for Texas residents, plus $5.00 shipping and handling. ($86.19 Texas residents, $80 out of state] Because the book is being reprinted in October 1999 and will be available in early in November, please send the FULL AMOUNT with your order in order to reduce paperwork and delays. Please send your name, address, telephone number, email address, how many copies you are ordering, and a check or money order for $80 or $86.19 (for TX residents) for each copy you want to: Nacogdoches Genealogical Society, P. O. Box 4634 SFA Station, Nacogdoches, Texas 75962. For further information and if you have any questions, please contact Mrs. Carolyn Ericson, 1614 Redbud, Nacogdoches, TX 75961. Telephone: (409) 564-3625. Email: [email protected] Here is a list of the SURNAMES in the book. There are articles on each of these names, I believe. I do not have a copy of the book available to me, so if you want to know more about the article on a surname, please write or call Carolyn Ericson, 1614 Redbud, Nacogdoches, TX 75961. Telephone: (409) 564-3625. Email: [email protected] Surnames included are: ACREY, ADAMS, AIKEN, ALDERS, ALEXANDER, ALLEN, ANDERSON, ARMSTRONG, ARNOLD, ATKINSON, ATWOOD, ATKINSON, AUSTIN, BAILEY, BAKER, BALCH, BALLARD, BARHAM, BARNETT, BARNHART, BARRET(T), BARRON, BASS, BATES, BAXTER, BEALL, BEAMAN, BECK, BELL, BENTLEY, BERRY, BIRDWELL, BLACKBURN, BLAKE, BLANKENSHIP, BOATMAN, BONE, BOOZER, BOX, BOYD, BOYETT, BOYKIN, BRADSHAW, BRANCH, BRANTLEY, BREWER, BRIDGES, BRIDWELL, BRILEY, BROOKS, BROWN, BRYANT, BUCKNER, BULLOCK, BURK, BURROWS, BUTLER, BYRS, CAMPBELL, CARIKER, CANNON, CARNES, CARTER, CARTWRIGHT, CASTLEBERRY, CATES, CAVER, CHANCELLOR, CHANDLER, CHAPMAN, CHESSHER, CHISUM, CHRISTOPHER, CLIFTON, COATS, COLE, COLLIER, COLLINS, COON, COOPER, CORLEY, COVINGTON, COX, CRAIG, CRAIN, CRAWFORD, CROSSLAND, CROUCH, CROW, CUNNINGHM, CURL, CURTIS, DANIEL, DAVENPORT, DAVIDSON, DAVIS, DAVISON, DAWSON, DAY, DEAN, DENNIS, DICKERSON, DIXON, DONEGAN, DORSEY, DOUGHASS, DRIVER, DUKE, DURRETT, DUROUGH, DURST, EASTER, EDDINGS, EDWARDS, ELLIOTT, ELLIS, ENGLEDOW, ENGLISH, ESTES, EUBANK(S), EVANS, FALL, FARR, FENLEY, FERSUGON, FEWELL, FIELDER, FIELDS, FLORES, FLOURNOY, FORD, FORE, FORSYTH, FOSTER, FOUNTAIN, FOWLER, FULCHER, FULLER, FURRA, FUSSELL, GANN, GARRARD, GARRETT, GASTON, GEORGE, GIBSON, GILBERT, GLASSMAN, GOLDSBERRY, GOODMAN, GOODWIN, GORDON, GRAHAM, GRAVES, GRAY, GREEN, GREER, GRESHAM, GRIFFIN, GRIFFITH, GRIMES, GUNNING, GUNTER, HALBERT, HALE, HALL, HALTOM, HAMBY, HAMIL, HAMILTON, HANCOCK, HANEY, HANNA, HARDEMAN, HARDY, HARGIS, HARGROVE, HARRELL, HARRIS, HARRISON, HARVEY, HAYNES, HAYTER, HEAD, HEARN, HEFLIN, HELPINSTILL, HENDERSON, HERRIN, HERRINGTON, HILL, HINES, HOBBS, HODGES, HOGAN, HOLT, HOOD, HOUSE, HOUSTON, HOWARD, HOWELL, HUGHES, HUMPHREYS, HUNT, HUNTER, HURST, HUTSON, IRION, JACKSON, JACOBS, JAMES, JENKINS, JOHNSON, JONES, JORDAN, JUSTICE, KELLEY, KELLY, KENNEDY, KERR, KERSS, KEY, KING, KOONCE, LACEY, LACKEY, LAMBERT, LANGFORD, LAVENDER, LAWRENCE, LAWSON, LAYTON, LAZARINE, LEE, LEGG, LEWIS, LILLY, LITTLE, LLOYD, LONG, LOONEY, LOVE, LOWE, LOWERY, LUCAS, LUNSFORD, LYLES, MANDHAM, MANNING, MARONEY, MARSHALL, MARTIN, MAST, MATHEWS, MATTESON, MAYES, MAYFIELD, MCBRIDE, MCCALL, MCCANDLESS, MCCLAIN, MCCLURE, MCCORKLE, MCCORMACK, MCCUISTION, MCDANIEL, MCDONALD, MCFADDEN, MCKINNEY, MCKNIGHT, MCLAIN, MCMILLAN, MCMINN, MCNEIL, MCSHAN, MEALS, MEANS, MELTON, MENEFEE, METTAUER, MIDDLEBROOK, MILLARD, MILLER, MILLS, MITCHELL, MONROE, MONTES, MONTGOMERY, MOORE, MORA, MORGAN, MORTON, MUCKLEROY, MURPH,M MURPHEY, MURRAY, MYERS, NEILL, NELSON, NEWLAND, NEWMAN, NICHOLS, NOBLE, NORRIS, OLIVER, ORTON, OWENS, PACE, PACK, PAGE, PAINE, PALMER, PARISH, PARKER, PARMLEY, PARRISH, PARROTT, PARTIN, PATTERSON, PATTON, PERKINS, PERRY, PETERSON, PETTUS, PETTY, PHILLIPS, PIERCE, PIKE, PINKSTON, PITTMAN, PITTS, PLEASANT, POCHMANN, POLK, POOL(E), POPE, POWELL, POWER, POWERS, PRICE, PRINCE, PRUITT, PYE, QUICK, RAGUET, RAMBIN, RANDALL, RANEY, RAWLINSON, RAY, RECTOR, REED, REEVES, REID, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, RICHARDSON, RISINGER, ROBERTS, ROBERTSON, ROBINSON, RODRIGUES, ROGERS, ROQUEMORE, ROSE, ROSS, ROWLETT, RULFS, RUSK, RUSSELL, SAMUELS, SANCHES, SANDERS, SATTERWHITE, SCHMIDT, SCOGIN, SCOTT, SCROGGINS, SELF, SHANNON, SHARP, SHAW, SHEPHERD, SHIPPEY, SHIRLEY, SHOFNER, SIMMONS, SIMPSON, SIMS, SINGLETON, SISCO, SITTON, SKEETERS, SKILLERN, SLAY, SMELLEY, SMITH, SONES, SOWELL, SPARKS, SPENCER, SPINKS, SPIVEY, SPURGEON, STACK, STALLINGS, STANALAND, STARR, STEEN, STEPHENS, STERNE, STEVENS, STEWART, STOCKWELL, STOKER, STOKES, STONE, STRAHAN, STRIBLING, STRICKLAND, STRIPLING, STUBBLEFIELD, SULLIVAN, SUMMERS, TATUM, TAYLOR, TEUTSCH, THOMAS, THOMASON, THOMPSON, THRASH, TINDALL, TODD, TRAVIS, TRAWICK, TUCKER, TURNER, VAUGHN, VAUGHT, VAWTER, VOIGT, WADE, WALKER, WALL, WALLACE, WALLING, WALTERS, WARD, WARREN, WASHINGTON, WATKINS, WATSON, WEATHERLY, WEAVER, WEBB, WEEKS, WELCH, WEST, WESTMORELAND, WHEELER, WHITAKER, WHITE, WHITEHEAD, WHITMIRE, WHITTON, WIGGINS, WILBURN, WILKERSON, WILLIAMS, WILLIAMSON, WILSON, WINDER, WINDHAM, WINDSOR, WINFIELD, WOOD, WOODS, WRIGHT, WYNNE, YARBOROUGH, YATES, Y'BARBO, YOUNG, and YOUNGBLOOD. Mail your check to Nacogdoches Genealogical Society, P. O. Box 4634 SFA Station, Nacogdoches, Texas 75962. Tell all your friends. Thanks very much. Sincerely, Pam Phillips Email: [email protected] County Coordinator: Nacogdoches County Genweb Listowner: TXNACOGD-L Chair, NacGS CIG

--part1_0.da335e63.25524f98_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.da335e63.25524f98_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: [email protected] From: [email protected] Full-name: Hendr0693 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:39:45 EST Subject: Vaught family in Nacogdoches To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 218 Hello everyone, My mother is a Vaught from Shelby county. Her father, James Oscar Vaught b.Feb 23, 1897- d. Feb.23, 1978 in Shelby county, told her that his G.F., Peter Vaught, I have no dates- came from Nacogdoches. My G.F. also told my mother that Peter had three brothers and that two of them moved out of state but that Peter and his other brother stayed around Nacogdoches. Peter's son was Pinckney Vaught, again no dates. I have looked at the cemetery records in Nacogdoches and haven't found anything on a Peter Vaught. Pinckney, we were told by my G.F. was buried in Ore City in Upshur county. I haven't found anything in Upshur county on any Vaught's. If anyone knows of any Vaught history or knows of any Vaught's please contact me. My mother has 11 brother's and sister's and they have a Vaught family reunion every April in the Stockman community just outside of Timpson. I am trying to find our history for our reuion. My mother's oldest sibling is 82 and my mother, the youngest in the family, is 62. Any help from someone knowing anything would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Troyce Hendricks --part1_0.da335e63.25524f98_boundary--

Thanks, Pam, for the excellent explanation regarding this greatest of books on this County's history and people. Was thrilled when it was announced that there is to be a reprint - even many of us already have a copy. My late Mother's people (WALTERS/WHITAKER, etc.) are long standing families going back into the 1830s. Do hope many will be able to purchase this book and enjoy all the wonderful material there along with all the history that Mrs. Ericson has published. It makes for a great personal library for many. Again, thanks. Billie Beth Moore (I use Billie Beth, please.)

Unbelieveable how some people can be. Delete Delete Delete if not interested in a particular message. HINT! steve wrote: > Unsubscribe!!!!! > > List owner. Let me know when this person is GONE so I can resubscribe. > > Take it into consideration my ass!!!!!!! > > Sayeth Janie Hinton at [email protected] on 11/2/99 5:03 PM: > > >I can't promise I will do that, but I will take it into consideration. > > > >Janie Brown Hinton > > > >Surnames researching: B*R*O*W*N, S*C*O*T*T, H*A*Y*S, > >M*A*S*S*I*N*G*I*L*L, B*U*R*N*S, C*A*T*E*S, C*O*L*E*M*A*N, > >D*U*R*H*A*M, H*I*N*T*O*N, L*I*N*D*S*E*Y, L*O*W*R*Y, > >M*A*R*S*H*A*L*L, P*I*E*R*C*E, R*A*W*L*I*N*S*O*N, F*U*L*G*H*U*M, > >R*E*Y*N*O*L*D*S, H*E*N*R*Y > >-----Original Message----- > >From: steve <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 1:52 PM > >Subject: Re: Houston Chronicle Obits 10/31/1999 > > > > > >>Sayeth Janie Hinton at [email protected] on 11/2/99 9:27 AM: > >> > >>>I will continue to post in hopes that they help someone. I am posting to > >a > >>>number of lists and have had many, many people request individual obits. > >>>Sometimes a door opened in the present leads to many doors to the past. > >>>Janie Brown Hinton > >> > >>Then perhaps you should create an OBITS list, or a HUSTON OBITS list for > >>those with an interest. Meanwhile, you are costing me money every day for > >>something I don't have any use for, didn't ask for, and don't want to > >>have to pay for, much less deal with every day. Thank you for your time > >>and the good intentions, but please move your information to a more > >>apporpriate space. > >> > >>Thank you > >> > >>Steve Byars > >> > >> > > > >