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    1. Re: TX Birth And Death Records
    2. Thanks. I didn't know about the resolution. There is so much to learn and if not for the help of folks like you, I'd never know what was wrong. Thanks again, Helynn

    04/15/2000 06:24:49
    1. Re: TX Birth And Death Records
    2. Thanks. I didn't know about the resolution. There is so much to learn and if not for the help of folks like you, I'd never know what was wrong. Thanks again, Helynn

    04/15/2000 06:14:38
    1. Re: TX Birth And Death Records
    2. Dear Sue, I'm still having trouble, it takes an hour, (57 min.) to down load one file, then when I open it it takes another hr. to open. I feel sure it is something I'm doing or not doing to cause this. Surely it isn't supposed to take so long. I'll be gone for 2 weeks, so I'll work on it when I get back. Thanks, Helynn

    04/15/2000 02:59:57
    1. Re: TX Birth And Death Records
    2. After downloading any particular year's file. Close out of the on-line server and using the right click of the mouse on the start button at the bottom of screen, click on "Explore". When the split screen comes up, go to where ever you downloaded the file to. I had set up the folders with the years under a main folder for "TX Indexes" on my 2nd HD and then created a folder for each year that I downloaded (15 years worth). To open the file, just double-click on the file that has an extension of .exe and it will extract itself keeping the new file with a .txt extension in the same folder. After doing this extraction, close the Explore screen. Click "Start" and go to Programs to Accessories and look for 'WordPad". These files are txt files and will open normally under WordPad as they are long files, all alphabetized. I found my birth record listed correctly with my parents listed correctly and my birthdate and county listed correctly. What I did notice was that not all the counties are listed though. Hopefully, that will be updated someday. Good luck. Sue in CA

    04/13/2000 06:57:43
    1. TX Birth And Death Records
    2. After I download these files, all I get is a black page. Do I need a special program to use this? Thanks for your advice, Helynn

    04/13/2000 04:09:50
    1. TX Birth And Death Records
    2. jwc
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "prechan" <[email protected]> To: <TXNACOG[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: this was on another list , looks great !! > We are making progress in Austin! From > > > http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/registra/index.htm : > > > > > > As of March 2000, Birth indexes from 1926-1995 and death indexes > > > from 1964-1998 are available on the internet (free), microfiche ($) > > > or CD-ROM ($$). Birth indexes from 1903-1925 and death indexes from > > > 1903-1963 are available on microfiche only. > > > > > > Indexes for open records years are referred to as general indexes > > > and indexes for years which are not yet open to the public are > > > called summery indexes. The SUMMARY death index is delayed six > > > months, the SUMMARY birth index is delayed 42 months. The time lag > > > for the birth index is necessary in order to protect the > > > confidentiality of adoptions and paternity determinations. > > > > > > The Summary Birth Index includes the last, first, and middle name, > > > if any, of the registrant, date of birth, county of birth, and sex > > > of registrant. The Summary Death Index includes the last, first, > > > and middle name, if any, of the decedent, date of death, county of > > > death, and sex of registrant. All indexes are sorted in > > > alphabetical order by surname within each year. > > > > > > Birth records do not become OPEN public records until they are > > > fifty years old, and death records become OPEN after twenty-five > > > years. All indexes are sorted in alphabetical order by surname > > > within each year. > > > > > > The GENERAL BIRTH INDEX includes the last, first, and middle name, > > > if any, of the registrant, date of birth, county of birth, and sex > > > of registrant, and may also include father's name and mother's > > > maiden name. All indexes are sorted in alphabetical order by > > > surname within each year. If the record falls into the open record > > > category, a general index may be made available for public use > > > [later?]. > > > > > > The GENERAL DEATH INDEX includes the last, first, and middle name, > > > if any, of the registrant, date of death, county of death, and sex > > > of registrant, and may also include social security number, marital > > > status, and the spouse's name. All indexes are sorted in > > > alphabetical order by surname within each year. If the record falls > > > into the open record category, a general index may be made > > > available for public use [later?]. > > > > > > These are files you can download, some quite large [File size: 9 - > > > 13 MB File type: ASCII, tab delimited], but it beats reading > > > microfiche at the library. They promise they will put them in HTML > > > "soon." > > > > > > Marriage indexes are available on microfiche or CD-ROM from > > > 1966-present and divorce indexes are available from 1968-present. > > > They may be available on the internet in the future (depends on > > > customer demand). So DEMAND! > > > > > > The Marriage Index includes the last, first, and middle name, if > > > any, the county of issue, the date of marriage, the spouse's name, > > > and state file number. The Divorce Index includes the last, first, > > > and middle name, if any, the county of issue, the date of divorce, > > > the spouse's name, and state file number. Jim [email protected] Newton County Historical Commission Web page HTTP://WWW.jas.net/~newton

    04/12/2000 07:01:19
    1. Re: this was on another list , looks great !!
    2. Norman Kimbrough
    3. Hi Shan, Yes, does look great. However the death index does not yet cover the late 20s which would be appropriate for my grandparents in Garrison, TX. Darn!! Maybe soon. yo cuz, Good ol Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: prechan <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: this was on another list , looks great !! > We are making progress in Austin! From > > > http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/registra/index.htm : > > > > > > As of March 2000, Birth indexes from 1926-1995 and death indexes > > > from 1964-1998 are available on the internet (free), microfiche ($) > > > or CD-ROM ($$). Birth indexes from 1903-1925 and death indexes from > > > 1903-1963 are available on microfiche only. > > > > > > Indexes for open records years are referred to as general indexes > > > and indexes for years which are not yet open to the public are > > > called summery indexes. The SUMMARY death index is delayed six > > > months, the SUMMARY birth index is delayed 42 months. The time lag > > > for the birth index is necessary in order to protect the > > > confidentiality of adoptions and paternity determinations. > > > > > > The Summary Birth Index includes the last, first, and middle name, > > > if any, of the registrant, date of birth, county of birth, and sex > > > of registrant. The Summary Death Index includes the last, first, > > > and middle name, if any, of the decedent, date of death, county of > > > death, and sex of registrant. All indexes are sorted in > > > alphabetical order by surname within each year. > > > > > > Birth records do not become OPEN public records until they are > > > fifty years old, and death records become OPEN after twenty-five > > > years. All indexes are sorted in alphabetical order by surname > > > within each year. > > > > > > The GENERAL BIRTH INDEX includes the last, first, and middle name, > > > if any, of the registrant, date of birth, county of birth, and sex > > > of registrant, and may also include father's name and mother's > > > maiden name. All indexes are sorted in alphabetical order by > > > surname within each year. If the record falls into the open record > > > category, a general index may be made available for public use > > > [later?]. > > > > > > The GENERAL DEATH INDEX includes the last, first, and middle name, > > > if any, of the registrant, date of death, county of death, and sex > > > of registrant, and may also include social security number, marital > > > status, and the spouse's name. All indexes are sorted in > > > alphabetical order by surname within each year. If the record falls > > > into the open record category, a general index may be made > > > available for public use [later?]. > > > > > > These are files you can download, some quite large [File size: 9 - > > > 13 MB File type: ASCII, tab delimited], but it beats reading > > > microfiche at the library. They promise they will put them in HTML > > > "soon." > > > > > > Marriage indexes are available on microfiche or CD-ROM from > > > 1966-present and divorce indexes are available from 1968-present. > > > They may be available on the internet in the future (depends on > > > customer demand). So DEMAND! > > > > > > The Marriage Index includes the last, first, and middle name, if > > > any, the county of issue, the date of marriage, the spouse's name, > > > and state file number. The Divorce Index includes the last, first, > > > and middle name, if any, the county of issue, the date of divorce, > > > the spouse's name, and state file number. > > > > > > > > >

    04/12/2000 06:48:39
    1. this was on another list , looks great !!
    2. prechan
    3. We are making progress in Austin! From > > http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/registra/index.htm : > > > > As of March 2000, Birth indexes from 1926-1995 and death indexes > > from 1964-1998 are available on the internet (free), microfiche ($) > > or CD-ROM ($$). Birth indexes from 1903-1925 and death indexes from > > 1903-1963 are available on microfiche only. > > > > Indexes for open records years are referred to as general indexes > > and indexes for years which are not yet open to the public are > > called summery indexes. The SUMMARY death index is delayed six > > months, the SUMMARY birth index is delayed 42 months. The time lag > > for the birth index is necessary in order to protect the > > confidentiality of adoptions and paternity determinations. > > > > The Summary Birth Index includes the last, first, and middle name, > > if any, of the registrant, date of birth, county of birth, and sex > > of registrant. The Summary Death Index includes the last, first, > > and middle name, if any, of the decedent, date of death, county of > > death, and sex of registrant. All indexes are sorted in > > alphabetical order by surname within each year. > > > > Birth records do not become OPEN public records until they are > > fifty years old, and death records become OPEN after twenty-five > > years. All indexes are sorted in alphabetical order by surname > > within each year. > > > > The GENERAL BIRTH INDEX includes the last, first, and middle name, > > if any, of the registrant, date of birth, county of birth, and sex > > of registrant, and may also include father's name and mother's > > maiden name. All indexes are sorted in alphabetical order by > > surname within each year. If the record falls into the open record > > category, a general index may be made available for public use > > [later?]. > > > > The GENERAL DEATH INDEX includes the last, first, and middle name, > > if any, of the registrant, date of death, county of death, and sex > > of registrant, and may also include social security number, marital > > status, and the spouse's name. All indexes are sorted in > > alphabetical order by surname within each year. If the record falls > > into the open record category, a general index may be made > > available for public use [later?]. > > > > These are files you can download, some quite large [File size: 9 - > > 13 MB File type: ASCII, tab delimited], but it beats reading > > microfiche at the library. They promise they will put them in HTML > > "soon." > > > > Marriage indexes are available on microfiche or CD-ROM from > > 1966-present and divorce indexes are available from 1968-present. > > They may be available on the internet in the future (depends on > > customer demand). So DEMAND! > > > > The Marriage Index includes the last, first, and middle name, if > > any, the county of issue, the date of marriage, the spouse's name, > > and state file number. The Divorce Index includes the last, first, > > and middle name, if any, the county of issue, the date of divorce, > > the spouse's name, and state file number. > > >

    04/12/2000 04:57:15
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. BILLIE WINGATE
    3. What cementary are you lookingto locate? Is it on cr 95 or one of the dirt roads off of 95? [email protected] wrote: > I also looked in The Roads of Texas map book that I have. It shows a > cemetary site at the southwest end of the caliche road just to the northwest > of Attoyac. Is this the general location?

    03/31/2000 02:19:18
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. I also looked in The Roads of Texas map book that I have. It shows a cemetary site at the southwest end of the caliche road just to the northwest of Attoyac. Is this the general location?

    03/31/2000 09:04:02
    1. Rip-offs of the genealogy community
    2. Juanetta Powers
    3. I received is from another list. My Aunt bought a book similar to this i the late 1970's and saidit was a Rip-Off even then. Juanetta Subject: Rip-offs of the genealogy community continues > > Good Morning, friends and cousins in the genealogy community! > > The response to the identification of the genealogy rip-off operation > in Denver last week has been tremendous with a steady stream of requests > for add'l info. > > The operation in Denver with a newly discovered "branch" in Utah is an > incarnation of the identical scheme that Halbert's used. The same form > letters, books and newsletters are being sold, and the same fake > "Crests" and other products are being created "to exacting standards". > > The new incarnation has not yet been linked financially to HalbertĀ“s or > NUMA (Halbert parent), but the resemblance is so close, they could be > joined at the hip, operating under dba's Mountain West News Service, > Mountain Pacific News Service, and MORPHCORP. The Better Business Bureau > reports that the company has joined the BBB in January 2000, opened in > 1985, and is rated as satisfactory. A complete history of Halbert's, > courtesy of Jeff Scism (despite our surname homonyms, we ain't kin --- > he hopes!) is available at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/shame/halberts.htm > > Volunteers interested in assisting in informing the genealogy community > of this scam have come out of the woodwork. We would ask the recipients > of this email the following: > 1) A sample of the Colorado flyer is at > http://www.dfc.cc/CyberCousins/genfraud.jpg > Print it and post in the genealogy section at your library with > appropriate message and make announcements at your gensoc. > > 2) After you have read it, as a researcher you realize the fraud that it > is. Go to the Federal Trade Commissions website at > https://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm and file a complaint ONLINE. For > a sample complaint and further detailed information to use, please go to > http://www.dfc.cc/CyberCousins/complaint.txt > > 3) Forward this to every list you are on. > > 4) If you are a member of NGS ([email protected]) or FGS > ([email protected]), contact those organizations and ask that they get > members motivated. Gentech, Inc. ([email protected]) has a director and > a well-known regular conference speaker in the Denver metro. I asked > them to do some local research. No response to date. > > 5) Contact every genealogy columnist whose work you read, both local and > online such as Myra Gormley ([email protected]} or Dick Eastman > ([email protected]) who was stalwart in early work on Halbert's, both > of whom, as well as others, are on this list. No response to date. > > 6} If you have rec'd a flyer yourself, please report the names and > addresses to me. We need to know all the DBAs they are using. Then > take it to the local post office and file a complaint. > > 7) If you are in the Denver area, we need search of the court house > records to determine any corporate connections. If we can make a > corporate connection, I am fairly sure the restraints placed on > Halbert's can be extended by the proper authorities. > > 8) If you are a supplier (software, services, researcher) to the > genealogy community, this type of scam effects you even more. > Contribute to the effort. > > 9)This is no small time scam. Halbert's is owned by a company named > NUMA whih in turn is owned by CENDANT. Go to > http://itjobs.cendant.com/cendant_co.html to find other Cendant > companies. You will NOT be happy with how you have been doing business > with folks like this --- I promise you. > > These scams are more likely to rip off folks less involved in genealogy > than most recipients of this msg. Most of us will recognize it for what > it is and trash it. That does not relieve us of the responsibility of > making it more difficult for these and other parasites within our > community to enjoy their ill-gotten gains. I have found far too many > that "don't want to get involved", "Didn't happen on my watch." (to use > an old Navy excuse), running from controversy and responsibility. Let > us unite in eradicating those that are behind an obvious attempt to > profit unethically from the popularity of genealogy. > > Joe Sissom

    03/29/2000 07:00:38
    1. Patrick Henry McBride
    2. Patrick Mc Bride
    3. I am looking for my G.G.Grandfather, PAtrick Henry McBride, born abt. 1843, maybe in Helena , Ak. He married a Sarah Jane Boatman. They had one child William Henry McBride 1873. After that PAtrick seems to have disappeared. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PH

    03/29/2000 02:46:23
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. Elizabeth Person
    3. Bill, many years ago I was talking with an old colored man at one of "my" cemeteries in Center,Tx. and he walked over the area where the grave was supposed to be.(no marker,but family all around)He poked at the ground with a stick and said he could "feel"by the ground that someone was buried there. I have never found out one way or the other if he was right. Annette in Bergheim,Tx. [email protected] wrote: > I am extremely interested in what Reecie of Shelby Co said in her email about > finding lost graves. My g grandfather and g grandmother were buried in "Tom > Fuller's Pasture", in about 1872 and 1890 in Attoyac, (Black Jack) TX, but no > one today knows the exact spot. They can get within a 50-100 yd circle of > where they remember the graves to be. Does anyone have any ideas of how to > find the graves? Thanks in advance. Bill Blankenship > > BILLY J. BLANKENSHIP, DDS, MD > CAPTAIN, MC, U.S. NAVY (RET) > CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS > [email protected]

    03/28/2000 02:01:37
    1. Lazarine Cemetery
    2. lisa
    3. Hi Johnny, I have a family member buried in Lazarine also. There is a listing for it in "Nacogdoches County Cemetery Records". Can anyone tell us where it is located and who to contact there? Thanks! Lisa

    03/27/2000 04:02:19
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. I am extremely interested in what Reecie of Shelby Co said in her email about finding lost graves. My g grandfather and g grandmother were buried in "Tom Fuller's Pasture", in about 1872 and 1890 in Attoyac, (Black Jack) TX, but no one today knows the exact spot. They can get within a 50-100 yd circle of where they remember the graves to be. Does anyone have any ideas of how to find the graves? Thanks in advance. Bill Blankenship BILLY J. BLANKENSHIP, DDS, MD CAPTAIN, MC, U.S. NAVY (RET) CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS [email protected]

    03/27/2000 12:19:59
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. prechan
    3. Thanks for answering about the cemetery. Yes, I am on the Shelby co. list and I think you all are doing a wonderful job in researching and posting the cemeteries information. I read them faithfully as I am searching for the grave of my 3rd GGF Joshua Wright died in Shelby co ca 1852. Also, the pics of the cemeteries are so nice. Pat

    03/27/2000 09:35:58
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. rstanley
    3. Enjoyed the story about the cemetery. In Shelby Co. we are attempting to find all lost graves and document them. We need to go a step farther and fence and mark graves. Last year I helped do that for a family cemetery . I have three more family cemeteries with my kin that need the same thing done for them. Reecie

    03/27/2000 08:18:40
    1. correct cemetery URL
    2. prechan
    3. I am so sorry, goofed big time. correct URL below. http://amarillonet.com/stories/032600/tex_hallowed.shtml

    03/27/2000 05:41:53
    1. Re: recovered cemetery, please read
    2. prechan
    3. Hi Norm, I sure am glad to hear from you again. I made a mistake on the addy, this is the corrct one. Shan http://amarillonet.com/stories/032600/tex_hallowed.shtml

    03/27/2000 05:18:09
    1. cemetery
    2. Johnny Sanchez
    3. Does anyone know of or have data on the Lazarin Cemetery? I found an early Nacogdoches Tax listing and the cemetery is listed as the final resting place of some of the potential family members Thanks, Johnny

    03/27/2000 01:28:48