how does one get to those cemeteries ? At 03:21 PM 7/19/2002 , you wrote: >Tom, there are no Clouds buried in the list shown on Castleman's tombstone >list of those buried in the Freezeout Cemetery (as he calls it). However, I >have been told that there are at least two other cemeteries on the property >which the Alcoa plant owns. I do not know if they are listed in the Milam >County Cemetery book or not. Joy Tom Cloud <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu>

Tom, there are no Clouds buried in the list shown on Castleman's tombstone list of those buried in the Freezeout Cemetery (as he calls it). However, I have been told that there are at least two other cemeteries on the property which the Alcoa plant owns. I do not know if they are listed in the Milam County Cemetery book or not. Joy

Joy, Asa Castleman has very extensive information and including photographs about Freezeout Cemetery posted on his website. Try these pages: MAIN CEMETERY PAGE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~acastleman/freezeout_cleanup/freezeout_cleanup.htm LIST OF BURIALS (with links to photos of tombstones) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~acastleman/freezeout_cleanup/headstone_list.htm ASA'S HOME PAGE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~acastleman/index.html

Joy, I was unaware of this cemetery. Millerton is where my Clouds lived. Is there a listing of this cemetery anywhere? .... how would I find it? At 10:39 AM 7/19/2002 , Joy Snodgrass Neely <joyn@industryinet.com> wrote: >Ric, have you taken pictures in the cemetery on the grounds of the Alcoa >plant near Rockdale? Two generations of my Snodgrass family are buried >there. This cemetery has been called the Freezeout Cemetery and Millerton >Cemetery. I have been trying to gather information to write a history on >this cemetery and apply for a Texas Historical Designation, can you help me >or tell me of anyone in the area who would be willing to do so. I would >like to obtain a copy of the pages which are shown in the Milam County >Cemetery Book which pertain to this cemetery. Also have been trying to >contact the Alcoa Plant to see when they acquired the land so I can get the >deed showing the cemetery was located there. Any help will be greatly >appreciated and will be glad to help anyone with information regarding >Austin County since that is where I live. Joy Snodgrass Neely >joyn@industryinet.com Tom Cloud <cloud@peaches.ph.utexas.edu>

sorry, the URL is: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.texas.counties.milam&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next you may have to copy and paste as it propbably wrapped. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Gordon" <fdg@flash.net> To: <TXMILAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [TXMILAM] Milam County tombstones > No Joy, I haven't taken any photos there. Actually I didn't even know there > were cemeteries on the Alcoa grounds. How many tombstones are there? The > Milam County Cemetery Book you're referring to, is that the one written by > Norinne Holder Holman? If so, you know that she only copied the year of > birth and year of death. She omitted the month and day understood only to > her. Have you contacted the Library in Rockdale > pattersonlib@rockdalecityhall.com ? > Milam County Message & Query Board at > > You might also try the above URL and leave a queary. > > Ric > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy Neely" <joyn@industryinet.com> > To: <TXMILAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: [TXMILAM] Milam County tombstones > > > > Ric, have you taken pictures in the cemetery on the grounds of the Alcoa > > plant near Rockdale? Two generations of my Snodgrass family are buried > > there. This cemetery has been called the Freezeout Cemetery and Millerton > > Cemetery. I have been trying to gather information to write a history on > > this cemetery and apply for a Texas Historical Designation, can you help > me > > or tell me of anyone in the area who would be willing to do so. I would > > like to obtain a copy of the pages which are shown in the Milam County > > Cemetery Book which pertain to this cemetery. Also have been trying to > > contact the Alcoa Plant to see when they acquired the land so I can get > the > > deed showing the cemetery was located there. Any help will be greatly > > appreciated and will be glad to help anyone with information regarding > > Austin County since that is where I live. Joy Snodgrass Neely > > joyn@industryinet.com > > > > > > > > ==== TXMILAM Mailing List ==== > > Milam County, Texas GenWeb page > > http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Ric, have you taken pictures in the cemetery on the grounds of the Alcoa plant near Rockdale? Two generations of my Snodgrass family are buried there. This cemetery has been called the Freezeout Cemetery and Millerton Cemetery. I have been trying to gather information to write a history on this cemetery and apply for a Texas Historical Designation, can you help me or tell me of anyone in the area who would be willing to do so. I would like to obtain a copy of the pages which are shown in the Milam County Cemetery Book which pertain to this cemetery. Also have been trying to contact the Alcoa Plant to see when they acquired the land so I can get the deed showing the cemetery was located there. Any help will be greatly appreciated and will be glad to help anyone with information regarding Austin County since that is where I live. Joy Snodgrass Neely joyn@industryinet.com

Galveston Daily News – Fri., 23 March 1877, p. 1, c. 4 “A Sweeping Conflagration - Two Blocks Burned - Loss, $60,000" - Rockdale, March 22 - A fire broke out here about 1:30 a.m. this morning, which destroyed two of the principal business blocks of the city. It commenced on the corner of the alley, on the outside of Hubert’s saddlery house, and was, undoubtedly, the work of an incendiary. He threw kerosene on the outside wall of the wooden building and then set a match to it. The fire enveloped the building in an instant, and, before the alarm could be spread, it was evident the whole side of the block must go. Next to the house in which the fire originated was the warehouse of W. Max & Co., stocked with goods, none of which were saved. Adjoining this was the "Rockdale Messenger" office, which was entirely destroyed. Enoch Breeding’s loss was $3,00; no insurance. The fire then went through Bland’s bookstore and Branch’s establishment and crossed the street. It is a sad blow to the place, but everybody is in good heart and is going ahead already to resuscitate. Rockdale is all right. Mr. Breeding will revive the "Messenger" immediately. Losses: Hubert & Bros., saddlers, $3,000, no insurance; W. Max & Co., groceries, $2,000, no insurance; Bland, bookstore, $500, no insurance; Branch & Co., groceries, $3,000; H. P. Hale & Co.; Masonic Lodge, $3,500; Henry Montgomery, building, $2,000, no insurance; Baum & Crohn Bros., building, $1,000, no insurance; John Scott, photographer, $300, no insurance; Lumpkin & Redding, saddlers, $1,500, no insurance; John Isaacs, building, $400, no insurance; Robinson, building, $500; Sojourner building, $500; Sigurson’s, building, $500; Winder building, $500; Durham Hotel, $750; William Trigg, building, $1,500; Henry Shoap, building, $300; J. H. Tracy, building, $700; James Wicks, groceries, $7,000, partly insured; George Ginder, barber, $50; Henry Cone, building, $700; J. S. Perry, building, $700; Fitzgerald, saloon, $500; H. Block, dry goods, $3,000, partly insured; B. Loewenstein & Bro., groceries, $4,000, partly insured; J. O. Litman, groceries, $1,500; Baxter, building, $500; J. B. Moore, building, $600; John Brown, saloon, $400; Marx & Kempner, building, $500; A. Strelskey, butcher shop, $400; A. Holley & Co., groceries, $250; Harkretser, building, $700; L. Box & Co., butcher shop and confectionary, $400; Bole’s, office & City of Rockdale Jail, $500; J. Jegedde, shoe shop and building, $500; J. H. Tracy, building, $400; W. H. Cronin, building, $400. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Lynna Kay Shuffield P. O. Box 16604 Houston, Texas 77222 telephone: 713/692-4511 e-mail: friday@argohouston.com ---My webpages--- 'Our Loose Ends' Genealogy Column by Lynna Kay Shuffield http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/COLUMN-001.htm 'My Loose Ends' Family Tree Database by Lynna Kay Shuffield http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi- bin/igm.cgi?db=friday Note above URL wraps around onto the next line, cut & paste it onto the end of the first line in the 'location box' on your browser. 'Milam County War Dead Project' http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/ County Coordinator for the Milam County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ County Coordinator for the San Jacinto County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/SANJAC-01.htm TX-CEMETERY-PRESERVATION http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/CEMETERY-001.htm

For those of you that wish to see a few photos I've taken of tombstones in Rockdale email me privately and I'll be happy to send them to you. And.... if you have some of your own I'd be happy to put them on my website. Ric Gordon

I have had a considerable number of individuals contact me and request the gateway between the Milam Co., TX Mailing List and the Milam Co., TX Message Board be connected. This means that every query, obit, etc. posted on the Message Board will automatically be e-mailed to everyone subscribed to the Mailing List or Digest ... If you do NOT want to receive a lot of e-mails, you should unsubscribe to the list mode and resubscribe to the digest mode ... The difference is that in list mode (you will receive a copy of every message posted to the list as a single email) and in digest mode (you receive groups of messages every day or so, depending on how busy the list is). For instructions on how change your subscription method, go to: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/TX/milam.html ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Lynna Kay Shuffield P. O. Box 16604 Houston, Texas 77222 telephone: 713/692-4511 e-mail: friday@argohouston.com ---My webpages--- 'Our Loose Ends' Genealogy Column by Lynna Kay Shuffield http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/COLUMN-001.htm 'My Loose Ends' Family Tree Database by Lynna Kay Shuffield http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi- bin/igm.cgi?db=friday Note above URL wraps around onto the next line, cut & paste it onto the end of the first line in the 'location box' on your browser. 'Milam County War Dead Project' http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/ County Coordinator for the Milam County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ County Coordinator for the San Jacinto County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/SANJAC-01.htm TX-CEMETERY-PRESERVATION http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/CEMETERY-001.htm

I go to the Weatherford Library (I live in Weatherford) and sometimes go to the library in Ft. worth. I do use their readers. I have been to Cameron looking for the death of Clarrisa McWherter - copied some land records at the courthouse. In acquiring the death obit for D.A. McWherter it states she died shortly after moving from Madison County Alabama to Milam County.(1874). Went thru the land records recently and rediscovered that their land was in Rockdale. D.A. Martha Ralston in 1879 and they followed her parents to Menard County. Still searching for the death record of Clarrisa. Pat

Pat, You don't have to live anywhere special to be able to abstract newspapers. Do you have a local library with a microfilm reader? You can get a lot of microfilm, especially the CAMERON HERALD by inter-library loan to your local library ... Have you considered buying a mircrofilm reader for home? I got a really good deal on one second-hand for $175. I buy the film from where I find it, abstract it, publish it (in print as well as on the Milam Co. Message Board and Milam County GenWeb Archvies) and then donate the microfilm to the Clayton Genealogy Library here in Houston or to the Milam County Genealogical Research Center at the Lucy Hill Patterson Library in Rockdale ... Lynna Kay ---------- Original Message ----------------------- From: Pat Gilbert <pgilbert10@juno.com> Reply-To: TXMILAM-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:09:54 -0700 >I wish I lived in the area as would love to check the newspapers for >missing info on different people. >Pat > > >==== TXMILAM Mailing List ==== >Milam County, Texas GenWeb page >http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I wish I lived in the area as would love to check the newspapers for missing info on different people. Pat

The Milam Co Library in Rockdale, TX has what Milam Co. papers there on microfilm. You might write them and see if someone would be willing to check them out for you for a fee. I do not know the dates but I looked at some when I was there in June. The library staff is very helpful. Kaye McIntosh

There is NO Milam Co. Library in Rockdale ... There is the Lucy Hill Patterson Memorial Library in Rockdale, it is a City of Rockdale Public Library, it is not a county library ... They do not have any newspapers prior to ca. 1895 and they are very few to 1900 ... There are NOT newspapers in existance for Milam County Texas for 1874 ... The only hope you can have is possibly it was picked up in the GALVESTON DAILY NEWS newspaper ... it was the largest daily newspaper in the State of Texas and sometimes, again sometimes, would pick up items from other counties ... You have to sit down and read the GALVESTON DAILY NEWS newspaper, line-by-line, page-by-page to be able to glean anything from it about other counties ... it takes me about 6-months to abstract one-decade (10-yrs) of GALVESTON DAILY NEWS newspapers ... Is anyone willing to volunteer to help with this project? That's the only way new research material will be created for us to use is to create it ourselves ... most genealogy information is not just sitting on the surface waiting for you to pick it up ... you have to dig for it and work for it because there are very few people out there who are willing to invest the time to create new research resources ... Lynna Kay Shuffield - List Adm. ---------- Original Message ------------------------- --------- From: Gak2mc@aol.com Reply-To: TXMILAM-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:26:32 EDT >The Milam Co Library in Rockdale, TX has what Milam Co. papers there on >microfilm. You might write them and see if someone would be willing to check >them out for you for a fee. I do not know the dates but I looked at some >when I was there in June. The library staff is very helpful. Kaye McIntosh > > >==== TXMILAM Mailing List ==== >Milam County, Texas GenWeb page >http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

No, there are NO newspapers that early for Milam county left in existance ... for history of newspapers in Milam Co., what's available, etc., go to the Milam Co. TXGenWeb page and click on MILAM COUNTY NEWSPAPERS Milam County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ ---------- Original Message ------------------------- --------- From: Pat Gilbert <pgilbert10@juno.com> Reply-To: TXMILAM-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:58:37 -0700 >I was looking thru some of the real estate papers I have for the >McWherter's and it appears they were in the Rockdale area. Did they have >a newspaper for the years beginning 1874 of other ways of looking up the >death of someone. >Pat > > >==== TXMILAM Mailing List ==== >Milam County, Texas GenWeb page >http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp? targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I was looking thru some of the real estate papers I have for the McWherter's and it appears they were in the Rockdale area. Did they have a newspaper for the years beginning 1874 of other ways of looking up the death of someone. Pat

Hey Lynna, Will you be continuing the abstractions until you get to the 1900 obits? I know my great grandpa Frank Lovett died there in 1900, but I'll be darned if I can find any documentation. Penny Gardner

I received a suggestion to request that anyone who is having a Milam County Family Reunion to post the information on this list ... others might be related through marriage and other lines and would love to meet and visit with other family members who they've never met ... So, please keep in mind if you are planning or if you know of a Milam County Family Reunion to post it on this mailing list ... Thanks ... Lynna Kay Shuffield ... list adminstrator ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Lynna Kay Shuffield P. O. Box 16604 Houston, Texas 77222 telephone: 713/692-4511 e-mail: friday@argohouston.com ---My webpages--- 'Our Loose Ends' Genealogy Column by Lynna Kay Shuffield http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/COLUMN-001.htm 'My Loose Ends' Family Tree Database by Lynna Kay Shuffield http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=frid ay Note above URL wraps around onto the next line, cut & paste it onto the end of the first line in the 'location box' on your browser. 'Milam County War Dead Project' http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/ County Coordinator for the Milam County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ County Coordinator for the San Jacinto County TXGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/SANJAC-01.htm TX-CEMETERY-PRESERVATION http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/CEMETERY-001.htm

Dear Pat, Yes, I go everyday at lunch and read the GALVESTON DAILY NEWS newspaper on microfilm at the Texas Room, Houston Public Library (McKinney & Smith) across the street from City Hall in Downtown Houston ... I am abstracting birth/death/marriage/important events related to Milam Co. ... for the most part, I have placed the obits on-line on the Milam County Message Board ... I generally do not post the obits here because of past complaints by certain list members about getting too many e-mails from the list and they weren't interested in obits ... so, there is no gateway between the Milam County Message Board and the Milam County Mailing List ... you need to check both to keep up with information being posted ... I have done all of 1876 from April through Dec. I am now starting on Jan 1877 ... Hope this answers your question ... Lynna Kay Shuffield - List Adm. for Milam Co. Mailing List & Adm. for Milam Co. Message Board ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Pat Gilbert <pgilbert10@juno.com> Reply-To: TXMILAM-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:29:53 -0700 >Do you have access to the Galveston Daily news for 1876 or just certain >things you have copied. I am looking for an obit for Clarrisa Ann >McWherter that died in Milam County in 1876 and was told it might be in >the Galveston News. >Pat > > >==== TXMILAM Mailing List ==== >Milam County, Texas GenWeb page >http://www.geocities.com/milamco/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Do you have access to the Galveston Daily news for 1876 or just certain things you have copied. I am looking for an obit for Clarrisa Ann McWherter that died in Milam County in 1876 and was told it might be in the Galveston News. Pat