All this info Teresa has been sending has made me wonder, and, no, I haven't gotten to read everything she's posted, yet... has anyone heard of or does anyone remember hearing about a 'chili joint' in the Waco area? Probably more likely in or close to China Spring, McLennan, Texas? Seems like I heard my grandmother (when my dad taped her telling about her childhood and young adult years) tell of her grandfather (Jonathan Crowson or Capt. J. O. 'James Owen' Hawkins) owning a 'chili joint' in the 20s or 30s I think. Just curious, Nancy

Just a reminder of the source... Friendship Class St. John's Methodist Church Waco, Texas Choice Cookie Recipes Of The Friendship Class St. John's Methodist Church Waco, Texas pg 22 Fudge Squares 3/4 cup pecans or walnuts 1 cup sugar (chopped) 1 1/2 cups flour 2 oz. chocolate (2 squares) 1/2 tsp. baking powder 1/2 cup Vegetole 1/2 tsp. vanilla 3 eggs Pinch of salt Melt chocolate, add Vegetole and stir until fat melts. Set aside to cool. Beat eggs 5 minutes and add sugar gradually. Mix and sift flour, baking powder and salt. Add to eggs and sugar mixture. Add nuts and vanilla, then fold in chocolate mixture. Spread in shallow pan and bake slowly for 25 minutes in 350 dgrees F. oven. Cut in squares while warm. Dust with powdered sugar. Yield 9-inch square layer pan. -Ellen Griffin ************************ Peanut Butter Cookies 1 cup margarine 2 1/2 cups flour 1 cup sugar 2 eggs 1 cup brown sugar 2 tsp. baking soda 1 cup peanut butter 1/2 tsp. salt Cream Margarine, add white and brown sugar and cream thoroughly. Add peanut butter and continue creaming. Mix and sift the dry ingredients together. Add eggs and dry ingredients to the mixture. Roll small bits of the dough into balls about the size of a quarter and then press them out flat with the tines of a silver fork. Bake cookies in a hot oven (375 degrees F.) until done-approximately 10 minutes. Yield: 108 cookies. -Ellen Griffin Pg. 23 Fudge Squares 1/4 cup shortening 1/2 tsp. baking powder 2 squares chocolate 1 egg 1/2 cup water 1/4 cup sour milk 1 cup sugar 1/2 tsp. soda 1 cup flour 1 tsp. vanilla 1/2 tsp. salt Melt shortening and chocolate. Add water and sugar. Stir well and cool. Add egg unbeaten. Add dry ingredients. Put 1/2 tsp. soda in milk and add last. Bake at 350 degrees F. -Lucille Roan ***************** Fudge Frosting 1 cup brown sugar 1 tsp. vanilla 1 cup white sugar 1 tsp. salt 2 squares chocolate 1 tsp. butter 1/2 cup milk Mix sugar, chocolate and milk. Cook until forms soft ball in cold water. Add vanilla and butter. cool and beat until creamy. -Lucille Roan *************** Brown Sugar Cookies (Ice Box) 2 cups brown sugar (refg) 1/2 tsp. cream of tartar 1/4 cup butter 1/2 tsp. soda 1/4 shortening 3 1/2 cups flour 2 eggs 1 cup chopped pecans 1 tsp. vanilla Shape in rolls. Chill in refrigerator. Can be stored in refrigerator and baked as needed. -Lucille Roan l8r!! G.O.S.P.E.L. - God Offers Sinful People Eternal Life

While I transcribing some names, there was someone who worked for Humble Oil and Refg...I mistakenly said Refg meant refrigeration...no, it's actually refining. Sorry, but I forgot what name it was. Teresa G.O.S.P.E.L. - God Offers Sinful People Eternal Life

Is a Kling mentioned in the 1939 Waco Directory?

pg. 18, advertisements Cogdell's 822 Austin Ave Waco, Texas Jacobson's Food Market and Locker Plant 19th & Reuter Waco Phone 864 Leon Jacobson, Owner Frank Smith Produce 314 Jefferson Phone 5995 Compliments Walter R. Stewart Plumbing-Heat-Sprinkler Contractor 2121 Lasker Phone 1895 pg. 19 Nutty Nuggets 7/8 cups flour 1/2 cup margarine (1 cup minus 2 tbsp.) 1 cup chopped pecans 2 tbsp. sugar 1/8 tsp. salt 1 tsp. vanilla extract confectioners sugar (Something for your bon-bon dishes) Method: Cream margarine; add sugar gradually, creaming until light and fluffy. Add flour, nuts, salt, flavoring; stir until thoroughly mixed. Dush hands lightly in flour and form into balls, size of small walnuts. Place on lightly greased cookie sheet. Bake in moderate oven (350 degrees F. for approximately 10-12 minutes) or until lightly browned. Remove from oven, cool slightly, about 3 minutes. Roll in generous amounts of powdered sugar. When cold, roll again in powdered sugar. Makes four dozen balls. (These cookies are sweetened by the rollling in powdered sugar.) -Ruth D. Knight, Dallas, Texas ***************** Ice Box Cookies 1 cup shortening 1 tsp. baking powder 2 cups brown sugar 1/2 tsp. soda 2 eggs unbeaten 1/2 tsp. salt 1 tsp. vanilla 1 cup chopped nuts 3 cups flour 1 cup chopped dates Mix well and form in rolls. Leave overnight in ice box. Slice thin and bake. -Perl Patterson pg. 20 Congo Cookies 2 3/4 cups flour 3 eggs 2 1/2 tsp. baking powder 1 cup nuts 1/2 tsp. salt 1 pkg. Nestles semi-sweet 2/3 cup shortening melted chocolate pieces 2 1/4 cup brown sugar vanilla (1 lb. pkg.) Spread on cookie sheet, when cool cut in squares. -Katherine Flynn ****************** Chinese Chews 1 cup chopped dates 3/4 tsp. baking powder 1 cup chopped nuts 1/4 tsp. salt 1 cup sugar 2 eggs 3/4 cup flour Mix dry ingredients. Add nuts and dates. Then the eggs well beaten. Spread as thin as possible on cookie sheet. Bake in a slow oven about 15 minutes. Cool, and cut in squares. -Kenner Lee Milam ******************** Orange Pecan Ice Box Cookies 1 cup butter 1/4 tsp. soda 1/2 cup brown sugar 2 tbsp. orange juice 1/2 cup white sugar 1 tbsp. grated orange rind 1 egg 1/2 cup nuts 2 3/4 flour Cream butter, add sugar, egg, orange juice and rind. Beat until smooth and stir in flour and soda sifted together. Add nuts. Shape into rolls in waxed paper. Chill over night, slice thin. Bake 350 degrees oven about 15 minutes. -Laura Bell Lennard Pg. 21 Cocoanut Puffs 3 egg whites 1 cup sugar 2 1/2 tsp. cornstarch 2 cups cocoanut 1 tsp. vanilla Beat egg whites stiff and beat in cornstarch mixed with sugar. Cook in double boiler until thick around the edge, stirring all the time. Remove from heat add cocoanut and vanilla. Drop on buttered tins, bake 15 minutes in slow oven, about 250 degrees. -Myrtle Dodd ********** Date Nut Roll 1 lb dates pitted 2 cups sugar 1 cup chopped pecans 1 cup sweet milk Cook sugar and milk until it forms a soft ball. Add chopped dates and stir until dates area melted. Add chopped nuts, roll in a wet cloth, when hard, slice. -Ellen Griffin ************* Russian Rocks 1 cup butter 1 cup oatmeal 1/2 tsp. salt 2 cups flour 1 1/2 cups brown sugar 1/4 tsp. soda 2 eggs 1 lb dates 1 cup nuts 1 tsp. vanilla Cream butter and sugar. Add beaten eggs, oatmeal, flour, salt and soda, chopped dates and vanilla. Bake 400 degrees F. -Ellen Griffin **** Looking at my weatherbug's temp on my tool bar, a red 104, the idea of baking cookies is as dead as a doornail, not to mention to even dare think it one must be crazy as a bed bug!! I am talking nooooooooo motivation at all!! Go buy oreo's!!! :c) Teresa G.O.S.P.E.L. - God Offers Sinful People Eternal Life

Whew boy! Moma found this directory and I insisted she bring it to me. It's not in good shape at all, but still a great source of info. NO I am not gonna transcribe the thing. LOL I will, however, do look-ups. So if you had a relative living in Waco in 1939, let me know and I will look to see if they are here. I can also tell who was part of state or local government as it is lists state officials elected in 1938, who was over the state courts, who the U.S. Congressmen were and the Senators. They have charted every county in Texas who the county officials were. As for Waco and McLennan Co., there is a lists of officials as in who was mayor, police chief, etc. These I can do as look-ups. I can do the interesting thing, like statistics: See how much our neck of the woods has changed since 1939... Form of Govt.- City manager-Commission Population- 52,848 (1930 census) American born, 76.8%. Predominating nationalities of foreign residents: German and Bohemian Area-17.5 square miles Altitude-427 feet above sea level Climate-Mean annual temp., 67.2 degrees F; average rainfall, 35.49 inches Parks-11, with a total of 550 acres, val. at $2,500,000 Assessed Valuation-$47,463,110, with $2.45 per $100 tax rate Bonded Debt-$6,054,750 (as of June 1, 1939) Financial Facts- 3 banks, with total deposits of $10,126,440.51 (Mar. 29, 1939) and total resources of $21,162,604.28, Clearings for 1938, $25,243,391.77, two buildings and loan associations with total assets of $2,483,690 (June 1, 1939) Postal Receipts-$404,703.11 (calendar year 1938) Telelphones in service-11,461 Churches-85, representing all denominations Building and Construction-603 permits, with a total val. of $1,445,423, issued in 1938 Industry- Chief industries of city and surrounding territory: Agriculture, dairying, shipping and manufacturing. Principal manufactured products: cotton goods, dairy products, sash and doors, built-in-furniture, cement, harness and saddlery, tents and awnings, venetian blinds, work clothes, sporting goods, coffins and casekts, cam furniture, denim, twine, dressed poultry and poutlry products, tire covers, printing products, lithographing, and advertising novelties. Trade area- Retail area has a radius of 80 miles, and populations of 375,000. Wholesalers serve Texas and adjoining states. Newspapers-2 dailies Hotels-10, with a total of 1,110 rooms. Newest hotel opened in 1828. Railroads-4, Missouri-Kansas-Texas, St Louis Southwestern, Missouri Pacific and Southern Pacific. Also Texas Electric Railway. Highways-State 2, Federal 81; State 6 North, Federal 77; State 6 South; State 44, Federal 77; State 67; State 7; Federal 84; State 31. Airports-1, municipal Amusements-Largest auditorium in city seats 10,000 persons. 7 moving pictures theatres, with total seating capacity of 3,500 persons. 3 Golf courses. Hospitals-4, with total 1,212 beds Education-Baylor Univ.; Sacred Heart Academy; Paul Quinn College (colored). 20 public school, including 1 senior high and 3 junior hight. Number of pupils on public schools, 12,096; teachers 380. Value of public property, $2,599,140.95;college, $5,103,000 Public libraries-City Library, with 44,000 volumnes, branch, with 2,600 volumnes; County Library, with 12,000. City Statistics-Total street mileage, 227, with 135 miles paved and 10 miles under construction. Mile of gas mains, 225; sewers 134. Complete bus service to all parts of the city, covering 25 miles. Number of water meters, 12,267; light meters, 15,158; gas meters 11,755. Capacity of water works (municipal), 15,000,000; daily average pumpage, 5,100,000 gallons; miles of mains, 200; value of plant $4,403,253.73. Fire department has 88 men, with 77 stations and 13 pieces of motor equipment. Valie of fire dept. property, $232,094. Police dept. has 54 m3n, with 1 station adn 14 pieces of motor equipment. I think later I can do the business part. It gives the type of business and who had that kind of business. Maybe Send me your names and I'll see if they are here! Teresa G.O.S.P.E.L. - God Offers Sinful People Eternal Life

To ""ALL"" who wrote about this thank you. As some of us have found out history is a major part of finding past family. We find out where they came from and why, where they went, how they did so and why, we learn what they did and why, why we have the same interest even the same name patterns. So ""PEOPLE"" keep it going. For us our grandkids and to honor our past. Bosque Remember, amateurs created the ark, and professionals made the Titanic. "Sorrow looks back Worry looks around and Faith looks up." Live as if Christ died yesterday, arose this morning, and is coming back tomorrow.

Thank you for that website... apparently that place was many things later... :) And I do remember Cameron Park... we used to go there many times. Betty Collins

BlankHello Everyone, With all this talk about the Cotton Palace I remembered the 2 books I have they are dated April 25, 1975 (Fifth Annual Waco Cotton Palace Pageant) and April 28, 1978 (Eighth Annual Cotton Palace Pageant). I would gladly put them online but I don't know who to contact to get permission. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Donna McLennan County, Texas AHGP http://www.usgennet.org/usa/tx/county/mclennan/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. www.grisoft.com Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02

Thank you so much for the reference to Handbook of Texas. That is just as I remember the Cotton Palace. Thank you. L.

The Cotton Palace was a lovely place for families to go in the 1930s when I was there with my family (parents and five children). I'll never forget riding in the canoe at the Old Mill. Those are memories I treasure. Perhaps it changed through the years but in its heyday it was a wonderful place to go with family. L.

More to it.............. My mother was born in 1940 and says it was long gone before her, but her parents knew it and the soldiers she dated spoke of their own parents there too. OldHagAtOldLake: the cotton palace was gone a long time before i was old enough to go to those plases just heard about it all my life remember i use to date soldiers from fort hood and they would tell about their parents ging and where it was OldHagAtOldLake: i have been to clubs in the building but not the cotton palace wasnt born til 40 remember thios was before jessies time OldHagAtOldLake: my daddy knew about it and so did my mom OldHagAtOldLake: she caught your pa in ther one day when he was suppose to be at work with one of the girls and i think she drug him away from the old flossie as she described her OldHagAtOldLake: thats the only time i think he really ticked her off OldHagAtOldLake: he was building houses close by there and they would go ther for lunch some time and one of the wifes told here and they went to find out and sure enough they were there for the last time OldHagAtOldLake: that was the place she hated and she hated all old flossies Maybe this will give you an idea of what the Cotton Palace was... In fact, now that my mom told me about it... I remember my granny telling me...I just didnt know that was the place. Granny took a bus to Waco one day (they lived in either Moody or Eddy at the time and she didnt drive) after being told about it and surprised my pa.....dont think he ever went back after that....LOL

I just asked my mother if she knew about the Cotton Palace. She said yes and was quite surprised I asked her about it. this is what she said...(I am BurgandyRoze and she is OldHagAtOldLake) OldHagAtOldLake: and why would you want to know that about me do you think im going to tell on me BurgandyWingz: what was it? OldHagAtOldLake: the one that i knew about was a dance hall OldHagAtOldLake: and of course beer place BurgandyWingz: I am assuming it was "several" different things at different times.. BurgandyWingz: cool BurgandyWingz: around where Baylor College is now? OldHagAtOldLake: yes it was it was onthe circle that use to be there in waco BurgandyWingz: wow OldHagAtOldLake: you got tha right BurgandyWingz: was it ever like a staging area or turned into a dressing place for the pool close by ( a bathouse?) OldHagAtOldLake: pretty wild place most places that were ther were pretty wild lots of the soldiers from killean went ther to pick yp / OldHagAtOldLake: yes but this was after i was married to your dad and moved away from that area OldHagAtOldLake: what is it now OldHagAtOldLake: waco has really changed since i lived there OldHagAtOldLake: kileen was the army base and there was an airforce base in belmead OldHagAtOldLake: the cotton club was a huge club from what i was told and they did have big name bands there that was the tale that went down from year to year (this was the best way I could think of to put down what my mother said about the place......:) Betty Collins

to read the history of the COTTON PALACE go to [ TEXAS HANDBOOK.com ] scroll down to search and enter COTTON PALACE and then clic on # 3

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The talk about the Cotton Palace leads me to ask about another Waco place. In the 1926-27 city directory for Waco, Q. R. Thomson is listed as the owner of the "Q Theatre." Anybody know what this was? Ann -- Ann Avery Hunter Richmond, Virginia mailto:annh@erols.com

Thank you for researching this about the Cotton Palace. It was a wonderful place in my memories. Lena

I entered "cotton palace" in the search field of my MSN browser. I got 224 hits. Most were about a bed and breakfast named Cotton Palace. There were some that referenced a book on the history of WACO. There were some that mentioned the School District condemning the CP property to build a school. Royce

<PRE>I have to add I went to the Cotton Palace as a child in the 1930s. I especially remember "The Old Mill" and the display cases with the gowns worn by the past Queens of the Cotton Palace - or that is my memory. I have an old post card with a picture of the Cotton Palace. It was magic land for a child. I also have a picture of my brother at age 4 (he is 90 now) on a pony at the CP - and another of my mother and brother when he was a toddler - sitting in a shiny old car. These are treaurers. Does anyone know of a website showing the Cotton Palace?

I have hesitated to enter this discussion, thinking someone with more info would step in. Yes the Cotton Palace was in the south Waco area, described by Ms Russel. Betros is another spelling of the young man's name. I think he was a lifegaurd at the pool. My parents and grandparents had many stories about the Cotton Palace. It was more than an amusement park. Consider it to be he Heart 'O Texas Fairgrounds and Coliseum of the early ?1900s thru the 1930s?. Many of the city/county wide social events were held there. Cotton was "King" and there was an annual celebration after the cotton crop was picked, ginned, bailed, and sold. The celebration was the counterpart of the fall harvest fairs/festivals of today. These are memories of undocumented verbal histories from over 40 years ago. My written reference material, a copy of Mayor Roger Conger's "Pictorial History of Waco", published circa 1962, is in storage. Mayor Conger wrote the history, illustrating it with the "images/plates" of photographer Gildersleeve. But if anyone would like access to the book, check the City Library, there should be a copy in their reference section. I think the book is still the best reference material on the history of Waco and much of McLennan County. It does contain sections with complete histories of the Cotton Palace and the Military Camps, Posts, Bases of that era. One of the WWI camps/bases was Camp ?Richland?Richfield?. It was on the Northwestern fringes of Waco, accessed via North 19th St, possibly near the site of the current Municipal Airport.