Sharon I bought the entire set of Robertson Colony Papers several years ago & am trying to wade through all the set. Some of the reading is slow & boring but there are some very interesting tidbits hidden in some of the books. I could never understand why I kept finding all of these Limestone Co. people all around the edges of Robertson Col. then show up in Limestone Co. I also feel pretty sure the attack on Ft Parker kept some of the families out for longer than the law suit. I have also found a large group of Limestone Co. families in Coles Co. MO in 1830. The Clendennen family was one of these. I also find them in Hopkins Co. TX in 1850 they were slow getting into Limestone Co. TX. Benjamin Webb was also in Coles Co. MO. I would just love to have all these census records where I could search them all without having to go to the library. I do have the 1850 TX census & Limestone Co. but would like to search some of these other places. I have come across the Strickland name in my research of Limestone Co. but have not done anything with it. I remember hearing the name as a child in Groesbeck. Pat Oates in TX. At 11:37 PM 4/15/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Pat, > >Hi. I had to respond to this message, because I have been doing a >considerable amount of research on the Austin family and my Stricklands in >Upper Louisiana/Missouri, Old Miller County Arkansas Territory and Texas >Territory. Moses never did get to settle any of the colonies. He died >around 1821 or 22. He met with the Spanish Government about bringing the >settlers in. When he returned home, he was very ill and died. Before he >died, he sent for his son Stephen Austin who was living in Ky I believe. I >got into some pretty interesting reading material in Missouri and found out >that Moses was taking EVERYONE to court. Its funny you don't read about >these things in the History books. In fact he kept having my David >Strickland thrown in jail over an outstanding debt. David and Moses were >next door neighbors. Moses was quite a character! He kept old John Smith T >busy in court suing everyone or atleast trying to. That is another story. >My Stricklands were among the very first to come to Texas Territory. They >spread their wings out all over Texas Territory. Stephen was in Old >Miller County Arkansas / Red River Texas Territory area visiting some of his >childhood Missourian peers. My James Strickland had a headright in >Robertson County that ended up in Freestone County. His father David ended >up with one in Red River Co. Texas even though it was originally part of the >Old Miller Co. Ark. His wife Mary moved to Shelby along with some of her >sons, Samuel, David, Henry, and Isaac. Their headrights are in Shelby, >Panola, Cooke, and Tarrant Counties among others. > >My James Samuel Strickland, his brother David, Amos, and little sister >Rachel moved to Freestone County. They later relocated to Limestone. Your >explanation about the Indians could explain why the children waited to come. > >It sounds like we might be able to compare some names and places. I love >getting into the territorial papers. > >Sharon L. (Fite) Holland >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/l/Sharon-L-Holland/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patricia Oates" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:56 AM >Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Cooke, Garrard, Harlan, Stroud, Wiles 1836-1873 > > >> The Stroud family of Limestone Co. claim that Jane was married to Wiles >> Cook before she married Logan Stroud. There has been some research done >on >> this family by a descendant. >> Also I have a relative that was in the first group of people Sterling C >> Robertson formed to control the Indians in the Colony after Ft Parker was >> raided. The group was formed in TX. Robert Martin Ferguson was one of the >> men in this company. >> This came from Robertson Colony Papers by McLean. >> Also in Robertson Colony Papers it makes reference to the fact that when >> Sterling C Robertson was trying to settle people in Robertson Colony he & >> Moses Austin were in a court battle over the Colony & they could not >> settle. Some of these people were taken in by the surrounding colonies >> till they could get the court case settled. If you do much Limestone Co. >> research you will see most of the very early settlers that came to TX to >> settle this area were first settled all around the edges of Robertson Co. >& >> finally moved into the area. Some waited a good while I think after the >> Indians raided Ft Parker they were slow to come into the area. >> Also my Grandmother's sister Ella Sadler married William Newton Jarrard. >> This was in the 1880s in Limestone Co. TX. The Sadlers were also very >> early TX people who settled finally in Limestone Co. TX but you will find >> them in Montgomery/Walker Co. early like pre 1850. Also the Joseph >Lindley >> family was in Montgomery Co. the Ferguson family was in Washington/Brazos >> Co. >> Also your mention of MO I have found a big pocket of Limestone Co. >settlers >> in Coles Co. MO in the 1830 census. By 1850 some of this group were in >> Hopkins Co. TX then made it on into Limestone early in the 1850s. >> Christian Co. KY is another place there were many of the early settlers of >> Limestone Co. TX. & some of this group went into IL. before coming to TX. >> Pat Oates in TX. >> >> >> At 12:22 PM 4/15/2001 -0400, you wrote: >> >Hi List, >> > >> >I'll give a last try for any hints about this family bunch ... all in >> >Robertson, Limestone and Coryell Co. TX from about 1836 to 1873. Please >> >forgive the length, but I want to give this one all I've got! >> > >> >COOKE, Augustus W., >> >born abt 1815, Robertson co TN? Went to TX with first group of Sterling >C. >> >Robertson's rangers in Jan 1836. First settled Franklin, Robertson co, TX >by >> >end of 1836 with about 11 other families. (Robertson co created Dec 1837 >> from >> >Bexar, Milam & Nacogdoches counties at the Second Congress of Texas.) A. >> W. >> >Cooke named interim Co surveyor. Elected county Surveyor Nov 1838. A. W. >> >Cooke had a general merchandise store from abt 1837. >> > >> >Robertson Co. TX marriages: >> >COOKE, A. W. of TN m. HARLAN, Jane Elizabeth on 11-Oct-1838 >> >COOKE, Jane E. m. STROUD, Logan A. on 19-May-1842 (same person??) >> > >> >1850 Limestone County, Texas Census - Page 356: >> >Dwelling & Family No. 185 >> >8. L.A. Stroud w/m 35 yrs Farmer $3,000 AL >> >9. Jane E. (Cooke) Stroud w/f 23 yrs SC >> >10. Amarneth? Stroud w/f 8 yrs TX >> >11. Terrissa Stroud w/f 5 yrs TX >> >12. Ethan Stroud w/m 3 yrs TX >> > >> >Dwelling & Family No. 225 Town of Springfield >> >37. Wm. J. Gerard w/m 28 yrs Blacksmith $650 GA >> >38. S. A. Jarard w/f 33 yrs NJ >> >39. Thomas Garard w/m 24 yrs Blacksmith GA >> > >> >1860 TX census Coryell Co., Rany's Creek beat, Gatesville PO, 5 June >1860: >> >Garrard, Thomas, 31, M, merchant, GA >> >Jane W., 22, F, TN >> >Elizabeth, 2, TX >> > >> >1860 GARRARD, William J. Jasper County, TX 401 Newton PO >> > >> >1870 TX census Coryell Co., Gatesville, 28 Sept. 1870. >> >Garrard, Thomas, 41, M, W, drygoods merchant/$800, GA >> >[Jane] Wells, 31, F, W, keeping house, TN >> >Betty, 12, F, W, TX >> >John, 10, M, W, TX >> >Sophronia, 8, F, W, TX >> >Jessie, 4, F, W, TX >> > >> >I believe Thomas GARRARD's wife Jane (Wells, pronounced Wiles) was >connected >> >to the COOKE family. Her mother died young and she was raised by (Cooke) >> >relatives. (Curious coincidence?: Phoebe [Garrard] married William Wilds >> >Cooke. Phoebe was born February 23, 1784 in Berkley County, Virginia She >> >married on October 21, 1807 in Shelby County, Kentucky. She died July 15, >> >1851 in Ralls County, Missouri.) >> > >> >Also, >> > >> >Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 >> >From: Lynda Chalk Barefield <[email protected]> >> >To: [email protected] >> > >> >Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Garrard Family >> > >> >Regarding the inquiry about Thomas Jarrard, on page 98 of the book "A >> >History of Limestone County" by Ray A. Walter, is the following: >> > >> >"Frosa is located fourteen miles northwest of Groesbeck. It is >> >reportedly named for Jose Frosa, one of the early settlers in the area. >> >Frederick P. Morey was appointed postmaster in 1877, and the village >> >contained two churches, a gin, school, and several businesses. Among >> >the early settlers were Jacob Cozby, Nelson Allen, THOMAS JARRARD, >> >Joseph Ratcliff, Isaac Lenoir, and William W. Cototon. A store and >> >church mark the spot today." >> > >> >Thomas Garrard, his wife Jane and some of their children are listed as >> >victims of the fever epidemic of 1873 in Robertson County. >> > >> >Most grateful for any help. Regards, Karen Trouvat >> > >> > >> >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >> > >> >> >> ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >> > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

Pat, Did you buy the Robertson Colony Papers in original form or was it published? I would love to buy a set. I got into the Upper LA and Missouri Territorial Papers originals. I took a trip to Missouri. You are right about a lot of the Early Texans coming from Missouri. Moses Austin was living at Mine Au Breton in Missouri. He also had a cabin in Ste. Genevieve. At one time they were considered Upper Louisiana and then became Missouri. Moses found himself in a financial situation. He was really big into mining for lead. When the mines stopped producing, Moses found himself in debt. He was actually afraid of being taken to court like he took others to court. (Hmm.... I guess I'm not sympathetic with him.) Times were hard for many families. Moses saw going into Texas Territory as a way of replenishing his dispair. Many of the people in Missouri were hit with the financial situation and knew they too could be looking at jail. Leading the colonists into the new territory was a way to help all of them. That is why you see such a large number of the Missourians in Texas Territory. You will also find that some of these people were in Kentucky, N.Y., CT among other places even before Missouri. I find it very fascinating learning about these early settlers. Also, some of these Missourians were in Old Miller County Arkansas Territory just prior to Texas Territory. My David Strickland was considered an Intruder of Indian land because he was south of the Red River. That was Indian land. David died around 1824. I do believe his wife Mary was an Indian. At one time Robertson Colony was considered Robertson County, before it was divided up. Originally Freestone and Limestone were a part of Robertson Land District. I would love to hear what you have on the Stricklands. There was a David Strickland that was living in Limestone County, Texas. He was the grandson of my David Strickland and a brother to my James Samuel Strickland. Sharon Holland http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/l/Sharon-L-Holland/ [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Oates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Moses Austin > Sharon > I bought the entire set of Robertson Colony Papers several years ago & am > trying to wade through all the set. Some of the reading is slow & boring > but there are some very interesting tidbits hidden in some of the books. I > could never understand why I kept finding all of these Limestone Co. people > all around the edges of Robertson Col. then show up in Limestone Co. I > also feel pretty sure the attack on Ft Parker kept some of the families out > for longer than the law suit. > I have also found a large group of Limestone Co. families in Coles Co. MO > in 1830. The Clendennen family was one of these. I also find them in > Hopkins Co. TX in 1850 they were slow getting into Limestone Co. TX. > Benjamin Webb was also in Coles Co. MO. > I would just love to have all these census records where I could search > them all without having to go to the library. I do have the 1850 TX census > & Limestone Co. but would like to search some of these other places. > I have come across the Strickland name in my research of Limestone Co. but > have not done anything with it. I remember hearing the name as a child in > Groesbeck. > Pat Oates in TX. > > At 11:37 PM 4/15/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >Pat, > > > >Hi. I had to respond to this message, because I have been doing a > >considerable amount of research on the Austin family and my Stricklands in > >Upper Louisiana/Missouri, Old Miller County Arkansas Territory and Texas > >Territory. Moses never did get to settle any of the colonies. He died > >around 1821 or 22. He met with the Spanish Government about bringing the > >settlers in. When he returned home, he was very ill and died. Before he > >died, he sent for his son Stephen Austin who was living in Ky I believe. I > >got into some pretty interesting reading material in Missouri and found out > >that Moses was taking EVERYONE to court. Its funny you don't read about > >these things in the History books. In fact he kept having my David > >Strickland thrown in jail over an outstanding debt. David and Moses were > >next door neighbors. Moses was quite a character! He kept old John Smith T > >busy in court suing everyone or atleast trying to. That is another story. > >My Stricklands were among the very first to come to Texas Territory. They > >spread their wings out all over Texas Territory. Stephen was in Old > >Miller County Arkansas / Red River Texas Territory area visiting some of his > >childhood Missourian peers. My James Strickland had a headright in > >Robertson County that ended up in Freestone County. His father David ended > >up with one in Red River Co. Texas even though it was originally part of the > >Old Miller Co. Ark. His wife Mary moved to Shelby along with some of her > >sons, Samuel, David, Henry, and Isaac. Their headrights are in Shelby, > >Panola, Cooke, and Tarrant Counties among others. > > > >My James Samuel Strickland, his brother David, Amos, and little sister > >Rachel moved to Freestone County. They later relocated to Limestone. Your > >explanation about the Indians could explain why the children waited to come. > > > >It sounds like we might be able to compare some names and places. I love > >getting into the territorial papers. > > > >Sharon L. (Fite) Holland > >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/l/Sharon-L-Holland/ > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patricia Oates" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:56 AM > >Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Cooke, Garrard, Harlan, Stroud, Wiles 1836-1873 > > > > > >> The Stroud family of Limestone Co. claim that Jane was married to Wiles > >> Cook before she married Logan Stroud. There has been some research done > >on > >> this family by a descendant. > >> Also I have a relative that was in the first group of people Sterling C > >> Robertson formed to control the Indians in the Colony after Ft Parker was > >> raided. The group was formed in TX. Robert Martin Ferguson was one of the > >> men in this company. > >> This came from Robertson Colony Papers by McLean. > >> Also in Robertson Colony Papers it makes reference to the fact that when > >> Sterling C Robertson was trying to settle people in Robertson Colony he & > >> Moses Austin were in a court battle over the Colony & they could not > >> settle. Some of these people were taken in by the surrounding colonies > >> till they could get the court case settled. If you do much Limestone Co. > >> research you will see most of the very early settlers that came to TX to > >> settle this area were first settled all around the edges of Robertson Co. > >& > >> finally moved into the area. Some waited a good while I think after the > >> Indians raided Ft Parker they were slow to come into the area. > >> Also my Grandmother's sister Ella Sadler married William Newton Jarrard. > >> This was in the 1880s in Limestone Co. TX. The Sadlers were also very > >> early TX people who settled finally in Limestone Co. TX but you will find > >> them in Montgomery/Walker Co. early like pre 1850. Also the Joseph > >Lindley > >> family was in Montgomery Co. the Ferguson family was in Washington/Brazos > >> Co. > >> Also your mention of MO I have found a big pocket of Limestone Co. > >settlers > >> in Coles Co. MO in the 1830 census. By 1850 some of this group were in > >> Hopkins Co. TX then made it on into Limestone early in the 1850s. > >> Christian Co. KY is another place there were many of the early settlers of > >> Limestone Co. TX. & some of this group went into IL. before coming to TX. > >> Pat Oates in TX. > >> > >> > >> At 12:22 PM 4/15/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Hi List, > >> > > >> >I'll give a last try for any hints about this family bunch ... all in > >> >Robertson, Limestone and Coryell Co. TX from about 1836 to 1873. Please > >> >forgive the length, but I want to give this one all I've got! > >> > > >> >COOKE, Augustus W., > >> >born abt 1815, Robertson co TN? Went to TX with first group of Sterling > >C. > >> >Robertson's rangers in Jan 1836. First settled Franklin, Robertson co, TX > >by > >> >end of 1836 with about 11 other families. (Robertson co created Dec 1837 > >> from > >> >Bexar, Milam & Nacogdoches counties at the Second Congress of Texas.) A. > >> W. > >> >Cooke named interim Co surveyor. Elected county Surveyor Nov 1838. A. W. > >> >Cooke had a general merchandise store from abt 1837. > >> > > >> >Robertson Co. TX marriages: > >> >COOKE, A. W. of TN m. HARLAN, Jane Elizabeth on 11-Oct-1838 > >> >COOKE, Jane E. m. STROUD, Logan A. on 19-May-1842 (same person??) > >> > > >> >1850 Limestone County, Texas Census - Page 356: > >> >Dwelling & Family No. 185 > >> >8. L.A. Stroud w/m 35 yrs Farmer $3,000 AL > >> >9. Jane E. (Cooke) Stroud w/f 23 yrs SC > >> >10. Amarneth? Stroud w/f 8 yrs TX > >> >11. Terrissa Stroud w/f 5 yrs TX > >> >12. Ethan Stroud w/m 3 yrs TX > >> > > >> >Dwelling & Family No. 225 Town of Springfield > >> >37. Wm. J. Gerard w/m 28 yrs Blacksmith $650 GA > >> >38. S. A. Jarard w/f 33 yrs NJ > >> >39. Thomas Garard w/m 24 yrs Blacksmith GA > >> > > >> >1860 TX census Coryell Co., Rany's Creek beat, Gatesville PO, 5 June > >1860: > >> >Garrard, Thomas, 31, M, merchant, GA > >> >Jane W., 22, F, TN > >> >Elizabeth, 2, TX > >> > > >> >1860 GARRARD, William J. Jasper County, TX 401 Newton PO > >> > > >> >1870 TX census Coryell Co., Gatesville, 28 Sept. 1870. > >> >Garrard, Thomas, 41, M, W, drygoods merchant/$800, GA > >> >[Jane] Wells, 31, F, W, keeping house, TN > >> >Betty, 12, F, W, TX > >> >John, 10, M, W, TX > >> >Sophronia, 8, F, W, TX > >> >Jessie, 4, F, W, TX > >> > > >> >I believe Thomas GARRARD's wife Jane (Wells, pronounced Wiles) was > >connected > >> >to the COOKE family. Her mother died young and she was raised by (Cooke) > >> >relatives. (Curious coincidence?: Phoebe [Garrard] married William Wilds > >> >Cooke. Phoebe was born February 23, 1784 in Berkley County, Virginia She > >> >married on October 21, 1807 in Shelby County, Kentucky. She died July 15, > >> >1851 in Ralls County, Missouri.) > >> > > >> >Also, > >> > > >> >Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 > >> >From: Lynda Chalk Barefield <[email protected]> > >> >To: [email protected] > >> > > >> >Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Garrard Family > >> > > >> >Regarding the inquiry about Thomas Jarrard, on page 98 of the book "A > >> >History of Limestone County" by Ray A. Walter, is the following: > >> > > >> >"Frosa is located fourteen miles northwest of Groesbeck. It is > >> >reportedly named for Jose Frosa, one of the early settlers in the area. > >> >Frederick P. Morey was appointed postmaster in 1877, and the village > >> >contained two churches, a gin, school, and several businesses. Among > >> >the early settlers were Jacob Cozby, Nelson Allen, THOMAS JARRARD, > >> >Joseph Ratcliff, Isaac Lenoir, and William W. Cototon. A store and > >> >church mark the spot today." > >> > > >> >Thomas Garrard, his wife Jane and some of their children are listed as > >> >victims of the fever epidemic of 1873 in Robertson County. > >> > > >> >Most grateful for any help. Regards, Karen Trouvat > >> > > >> > > >> >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ > >> > > > > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ > > > > > ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com~txlimest/ > List adminstrator is David Morgan, [email protected] >