Mika I am sure if we can get back in time a little more we will find some connection to these Berry families I have. Berry is not that common a name in Limestone Co. Don't give up on me I will keep digging. Shirley & I that were talking Beard earlier tonight have really turned up some good things. If we keep going we may end up kin :>). You just have to keep looking an asking. Pat Oates in TX. At 04:23 AM 5/30/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Patricia and list, > >My g-grandfather was James W. "Jim" BERRY. He married Holly SPRINGFIELD. >Holly's family was living in Limestone Co., by 1850 and she was born about >1854, probably in Limestone or Falls County. "Jim" was born Jul 1848 in >Texas or Alabama and may have had a father called, "Jack" BERRY. I was >hoping that he was counted in the census. None of the names you mentioned >sounded familiar but I don't know enough about the family to give a >considered opinion. > >Thanks for your interest. >Best Regards, >Mika >Granbury, TX

The William Wilson Beard is son of James Rose Beard. This William Wilson had son William Thomas Beard who is the Father of the wife of Elmer Shepperd. Pat At 10:54 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Pat do you know which William Wilson Beard? So far I have found three of >them. James Rose's father was John P. Beard and his father was the first >William Wilson. Then James' oldest brother was the 2nd William Wilson. And >of last but not least, James named one of his son's William Wilson. People >weren't very creative with names back in those days, where they? I am >starting to like the researching alot, however, my computer skills are very >poor but each day I learn something new...Shirley >-----Original Message----- >From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:45 PM >Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Beard > > >>Shirley >> I guess I have a mess I have James Rose Beard married to Temperance Lottie >>Hobbs. If this is wrong I do need to fix this. I am glad to find you are >>the ones working on this family without having to dig through all my >>emails. I am going to send you a man's name off list that is good with >>genealogy & he is married into this line. He lives down the road from me >>but I have only talked to him on the phone. His wife is dead & he is not >>on the net so you will have to call him. His wife goes back to William >>Wilson Beard if that is correct. It is looking like what I have is not >>totally correct & am hoping he can help me. >>Pat Oates in TX. >> >> >>At 08:17 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>>Thanks for the info. James Rose Beard is the line we are researching. My >>>niece, Melissa Martinez, says you have helped her out alot. I have made >>>personal contract with some of the Beard families. Today I received alot >of >>>pictures and data on this family. So our amount of information is truly >>>falling into place now. You helped us, we've helped them and they are >>>helping us. James Rose Beard is the brother to my gr.grandfather, Barney >>>Washington Beard. He married Lottie Temperance Hobbs, I just found her >>>request for civil war pension. Barney was first married to Amanda Annie >>>Hobbs, Temperance's sister. Since we've found new information I or Missy >>>will be happy to help. Shirley >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> >>>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:59 PM >>>Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Cox/Beard >>> >>> >>>>Shirley >>>> I just got into a Beard/Cox/King connection today in my Limestone Co. >data >>>>base. I have been trying to clean up a Beard family I am working on in >>>>Limestone Co. & it lead into the King Cem. group of people. >>>>I just checked & do not have a Ellen Leander Cox but do have some Beard >men >>>>with no wives. Some of this is the James Rose Beard family. >>>>It is not that Limestone Co does not have what records that were kept >in >>>>order. They just did not keep them back in that time frame. The >records >>>>that Limestone Co. has are well kept today. The fact that you can not >find >>>>a birth or death cert. in the courthouse has nothing to do with how the >>>>records are kept today. >>>>Pat Oates in TX. >>>> >> >> >> >>==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >> > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

Pat do you know which William Wilson Beard? So far I have found three of them. James Rose's father was John P. Beard and his father was the first William Wilson. Then James' oldest brother was the 2nd William Wilson. And of last but not least, James named one of his son's William Wilson. People weren't very creative with names back in those days, where they? I am starting to like the researching alot, however, my computer skills are very poor but each day I learn something new...Shirley -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Beard >Shirley > I guess I have a mess I have James Rose Beard married to Temperance Lottie >Hobbs. If this is wrong I do need to fix this. I am glad to find you are >the ones working on this family without having to dig through all my >emails. I am going to send you a man's name off list that is good with >genealogy & he is married into this line. He lives down the road from me >but I have only talked to him on the phone. His wife is dead & he is not >on the net so you will have to call him. His wife goes back to William >Wilson Beard if that is correct. It is looking like what I have is not >totally correct & am hoping he can help me. >Pat Oates in TX. > > >At 08:17 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>Thanks for the info. James Rose Beard is the line we are researching. My >>niece, Melissa Martinez, says you have helped her out alot. I have made >>personal contract with some of the Beard families. Today I received alot of >>pictures and data on this family. So our amount of information is truly >>falling into place now. You helped us, we've helped them and they are >>helping us. James Rose Beard is the brother to my gr.grandfather, Barney >>Washington Beard. He married Lottie Temperance Hobbs, I just found her >>request for civil war pension. Barney was first married to Amanda Annie >>Hobbs, Temperance's sister. Since we've found new information I or Missy >>will be happy to help. Shirley >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:59 PM >>Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Cox/Beard >> >> >>>Shirley >>> I just got into a Beard/Cox/King connection today in my Limestone Co. data >>>base. I have been trying to clean up a Beard family I am working on in >>>Limestone Co. & it lead into the King Cem. group of people. >>>I just checked & do not have a Ellen Leander Cox but do have some Beard men >>>with no wives. Some of this is the James Rose Beard family. >>>It is not that Limestone Co does not have what records that were kept in >>>order. They just did not keep them back in that time frame. The records >>>that Limestone Co. has are well kept today. The fact that you can not find >>>a birth or death cert. in the courthouse has nothing to do with how the >>>records are kept today. >>>Pat Oates in TX. >>> > > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

we all do this even now, but guess that is what makes it fun Callie

I ordered mine for my father from Limestone county and got it back in a few days so they do try to help Callie

Shirley I guess I have a mess I have James Rose Beard married to Temperance Lottie Hobbs. If this is wrong I do need to fix this. I am glad to find you are the ones working on this family without having to dig through all my emails. I am going to send you a man's name off list that is good with genealogy & he is married into this line. He lives down the road from me but I have only talked to him on the phone. His wife is dead & he is not on the net so you will have to call him. His wife goes back to William Wilson Beard if that is correct. It is looking like what I have is not totally correct & am hoping he can help me. Pat Oates in TX. At 08:17 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for the info. James Rose Beard is the line we are researching. My >niece, Melissa Martinez, says you have helped her out alot. I have made >personal contract with some of the Beard families. Today I received alot of >pictures and data on this family. So our amount of information is truly >falling into place now. You helped us, we've helped them and they are >helping us. James Rose Beard is the brother to my gr.grandfather, Barney >Washington Beard. He married Lottie Temperance Hobbs, I just found her >request for civil war pension. Barney was first married to Amanda Annie >Hobbs, Temperance's sister. Since we've found new information I or Missy >will be happy to help. Shirley >-----Original Message----- >From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:59 PM >Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Cox/Beard > > >>Shirley >> I just got into a Beard/Cox/King connection today in my Limestone Co. data >>base. I have been trying to clean up a Beard family I am working on in >>Limestone Co. & it lead into the King Cem. group of people. >>I just checked & do not have a Ellen Leander Cox but do have some Beard men >>with no wives. Some of this is the James Rose Beard family. >>It is not that Limestone Co does not have what records that were kept in >>order. They just did not keep them back in that time frame. The records >>that Limestone Co. has are well kept today. The fact that you can not find >>a birth or death cert. in the courthouse has nothing to do with how the >>records are kept today. >>Pat Oates in TX. >>

Thanks for the info. James Rose Beard is the line we are researching. My niece, Melissa Martinez, says you have helped her out alot. I have made personal contract with some of the Beard families. Today I received alot of pictures and data on this family. So our amount of information is truly falling into place now. You helped us, we've helped them and they are helping us. James Rose Beard is the brother to my gr.grandfather, Barney Washington Beard. He married Lottie Temperance Hobbs, I just found her request for civil war pension. Barney was first married to Amanda Annie Hobbs, Temperance's sister. Since we've found new information I or Missy will be happy to help. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Cox/Beard >Shirley > I just got into a Beard/Cox/King connection today in my Limestone Co. data >base. I have been trying to clean up a Beard family I am working on in >Limestone Co. & it lead into the King Cem. group of people. >I just checked & do not have a Ellen Leander Cox but do have some Beard men >with no wives. Some of this is the James Rose Beard family. >It is not that Limestone Co does not have what records that were kept in >order. They just did not keep them back in that time frame. The records >that Limestone Co. has are well kept today. The fact that you can not find >a birth or death cert. in the courthouse has nothing to do with how the >records are kept today. >Pat Oates in TX. > > >t 06:03 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>You are correct about Limestone Co., Tx. not having their records in order. >>I just visited Groesbeck, Limestone County records. My great grandmother >>died in 1926 (Ellen Leander Cox Beard) and they did not have a copy of it. >>They told me to send to Austin for it and I have, that was six weeks ago. >>Do not know how long it takes. There were alot records we could not find. >>Sorry to butt in but that was a long trip from Corpus Christi to not get >>some of the things I was going after...Shirley Orem >>-----Original Message----- > > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

Thanks for replying. I too looked through births, deaths, & marriages. Knowing what I do now, I really need to go back. I did get a copy of my mother's birth and marriage certificate and a copy of my grandfather's death certificate. However, they would not let you make copies, they had to be certified. I now know I should have stayed a few more hrs. and wrote many items down. There records were easy to use. Maybe I'll go back. I am new at this and learning the hard way...mostly from mistakes...Shirley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] Re: Birth & Death Cert. >Shirley, > >It has taken as long as 12 wks to get death cert from Austin. My experience >in Limestone Co is that I found grandfather's & siblings listed as "baby boy >or girl" Richardson in the indexes. I did find some death records indexed >and they did let me go to the books to look at before making copies. > >You really did have a long trip if from Corpus Christi. I used to live in CC >and now live in Magnolia TX. Not quite so far to Limestone Co. :>). > >Deborah >Magnolia TX > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com~txlimest/ >List adminstrator is David Morgan, [email protected] >

Shirley, It has taken as long as 12 wks to get death cert from Austin. My experience in Limestone Co is that I found grandfather's & siblings listed as "baby boy or girl" Richardson in the indexes. I did find some death records indexed and they did let me go to the books to look at before making copies. You really did have a long trip if from Corpus Christi. I used to live in CC and now live in Magnolia TX. Not quite so far to Limestone Co. :>). Deborah Magnolia TX

Shirley I just got into a Beard/Cox/King connection today in my Limestone Co. data base. I have been trying to clean up a Beard family I am working on in Limestone Co. & it lead into the King Cem. group of people. I just checked & do not have a Ellen Leander Cox but do have some Beard men with no wives. Some of this is the James Rose Beard family. It is not that Limestone Co does not have what records that were kept in order. They just did not keep them back in that time frame. The records that Limestone Co. has are well kept today. The fact that you can not find a birth or death cert. in the courthouse has nothing to do with how the records are kept today. Pat Oates in TX. t 06:03 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >You are correct about Limestone Co., Tx. not having their records in order. >I just visited Groesbeck, Limestone County records. My great grandmother >died in 1926 (Ellen Leander Cox Beard) and they did not have a copy of it. >They told me to send to Austin for it and I have, that was six weeks ago. >Do not know how long it takes. There were alot records we could not find. >Sorry to butt in but that was a long trip from Corpus Christi to not get >some of the things I was going after...Shirley Orem >-----Original Message-----

Hi David, Please check for a James W. or Jim BERRY. Thanks, Mika Granbury, TX _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

You are correct about Limestone Co., Tx. not having their records in order. I just visited Groesbeck, Limestone County records. My great grandmother died in 1926 (Ellen Leander Cox Beard) and they did not have a copy of it. They told me to send to Austin for it and I have, that was six weeks ago. Do not know how long it takes. There were alot records we could not find. Sorry to butt in but that was a long trip from Corpus Christi to not get some of the things I was going after...Shirley Orem -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Oates <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: [TXLIMEST] Re: Birth & Death Cert. >David > You will find that Limestone Co. had a real problem getting the death & >birth records recorded. My GGrandparents died in the 1920s in the Oletha >area which is in the south east corner of Limestone Co. & they did not have >a death cert. recorded. I have been told that the state of Texas came in >& threatened Limestone Co. with a suit for not complying with the orders >to record these events. Also my Father was born in Limestone Co. in 1913 & >he got his birth cert. when he joined the army during WW2. >Pat Oates in TX. > > >At 02:05 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>Texas Death Certificates started in 1903. Of course compliance with the new >>regulations took a few years especially in rural areas. It has been my >>experience that Death Certificates were recorded much better that birth >>certificates. >> >>The Dallas Public Library Genealogy section has the complete Texas Death >>Certificate INDEX on microfilm for the years 1903-1976. Try writing to the >>genealogical librarian to check if the deaths are on the INDEX, then using >>the registration number you can order the certified copy from the Dept of >>Health in Austin Texas. >> >>Good Luck - David >> >> > > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

David You will find that Limestone Co. had a real problem getting the death & birth records recorded. My GGrandparents died in the 1920s in the Oletha area which is in the south east corner of Limestone Co. & they did not have a death cert. recorded. I have been told that the state of Texas came in & threatened Limestone Co. with a suit for not complying with the orders to record these events. Also my Father was born in Limestone Co. in 1913 & he got his birth cert. when he joined the army during WW2. Pat Oates in TX. At 02:05 PM 5/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Texas Death Certificates started in 1903. Of course compliance with the new >regulations took a few years especially in rural areas. It has been my >experience that Death Certificates were recorded much better that birth >certificates. > >The Dallas Public Library Genealogy section has the complete Texas Death >Certificate INDEX on microfilm for the years 1903-1976. Try writing to the >genealogical librarian to check if the deaths are on the INDEX, then using >the registration number you can order the certified copy from the Dept of >Health in Austin Texas. > >Good Luck - David > >

I have a Unknown Berry married to a Julia who married Jeremiah Thomas "Judd" Little & had a family. I show her with 3 Berry children Felix, Conrad & a Bertha. Could this be the family you are searching for? Pat Oates in TX. At 06:37 PM 5/29/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi David, > >Please check for a James W. or Jim BERRY. > >Thanks, >Mika >Granbury, TX >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

Texas Death Certificates started in 1903. Of course compliance with the new regulations took a few years especially in rural areas. It has been my experience that Death Certificates were recorded much better that birth certificates. The Dallas Public Library Genealogy section has the complete Texas Death Certificate INDEX on microfilm for the years 1903-1976. Try writing to the genealogical librarian to check if the deaths are on the INDEX, then using the registration number you can order the certified copy from the Dept of Health in Austin Texas. Good Luck - David > -----Original Message----- > From: David W. Morgan [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TXLIMEST] Re: Cundieff > > On Mon, 28 May 2001 [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi David. I am Jacqueline Cundieff McGraw. i am trying to locate > marriage > > of my grandfather in 1906-07. Possible initials of widow are T.M. > Cundieff. > > He was William Henry Cundieff. born 4-3-1872 married my grandmother > who > > died in 1905. He remarried and I am trying to find out what her name > was as > > I think they had at least one child. He died in 5-24-1913 and is buried > in > > Armour Cemetery along with my g-grandfather and g-grandmother and > > grandmother. I am also trying to find a death certtificate for Martha > C. > > Cundieff 9-27-1875 to 3-1-1905 my grandmother. I have been unable to > locate > > one. she supposedly died of TB ? Thanks for your help . I plan on > visiting > > in December of this year as my father was born in Mexia and I would like > to > > visit the cemetery of his father and mother and relatives. Thank You > > > Jacque McGraw > > > > I am not at all sure there will be a death record that far back. > > I will post this to txlimest-l where someone might be able to answer > your questions. > > David > > [email protected] David W. Morgan Honolulu Hawaii > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/okfiles.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm > > > > ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/

Salter Berry head of household #754 Augustus Bary head of household# 1289 Adam Barsey head of household # 1202 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mika J [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] 1870 limestone head of household index > > Hi David, > > Please check for a James W. or Jim BERRY. > > Thanks, > Mika > Granbury, TX > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/

I have the Head of Household (full name) index to the 1870 Limestone County, Texas Census. If you want me to look up 1 or two names, please e-mail me privately at [email protected] Thanks and good hunting. David Strickland

On Mon, 28 May 2001 [email protected] wrote: > Hi David. I am Jacqueline Cundieff McGraw. i am trying to locate marriage > of my grandfather in 1906-07. Possible initials of widow are T.M. Cundieff. > He was William Henry Cundieff. born 4-3-1872 married my grandmother who > died in 1905. He remarried and I am trying to find out what her name was as > I think they had at least one child. He died in 5-24-1913 and is buried in > Armour Cemetery along with my g-grandfather and g-grandmother and > grandmother. I am also trying to find a death certtificate for Martha C. > Cundieff 9-27-1875 to 3-1-1905 my grandmother. I have been unable to locate > one. she supposedly died of TB ? Thanks for your help . I plan on visiting > in December of this year as my father was born in Mexia and I would like to > visit the cemetery of his father and mother and relatives. Thank You > Jacque McGraw > I am not at all sure there will be a death record that far back. I will post this to txlimest-l where someone might be able to answer your questions. David [email protected] David W. Morgan Honolulu Hawaii http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/okfiles.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm

David - I am still interested in receiving a copy of the index and will be more than happy to send a check back to you. My mailing address is: Glenda Argo 4211 N. E. 24th Avenue Norman, Oklahoma 73071 1-405-321-0395 Thanks so much....... ----- Original Message ----- From: tsl001 <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: [TXLIMEST] Betty Morrow's 11 volume Cemetary Index > My best quality copy of the index was not good enough for my OCR Scanner. > Came out sort of like Swahili although the text is clear enough. > > My apologies to all who requested an e-mail copy of the index. > It is 119 pages - much to bulky to e-mail 119 JPEG format pages. > > So if anyone is interested in a zerox copy via snail mail - my cost per each > will be $2.40 postage + 0.21 for an envelope. Please send your snail mail > address to > David Strickland > [email protected] > I'll mail the index out, and you can send me a check for $2.61 when you > receive the package. > > Again so sorry for the inconvenience. > > David Strickland > > > NetZero Platinum > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://www.netzero.net > > > ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

My best quality copy of the index was not good enough for my OCR Scanner. Came out sort of like Swahili although the text is clear enough. My apologies to all who requested an e-mail copy of the index. It is 119 pages - much to bulky to e-mail 119 JPEG format pages. So if anyone is interested in a zerox copy via snail mail - my cost per each will be $2.40 postage + 0.21 for an envelope. Please send your snail mail address to David Strickland [email protected] I'll mail the index out, and you can send me a check for $2.61 when you receive the package. Again so sorry for the inconvenience. David Strickland NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net