Patti Box Church is on the Groesbeck side or west of Old Union. This will help me a lot I know lots of people that lived in Box Church so can ask questions now. In fact if I don't get over there this week end I may make a few phone calls. If you read the emails I sent last night I think we are talking about the same Sanders family as Jimmy Tidwell. Pat Oates At 01:08 AM 11/24/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Pat, > I don't know what I was thinking of when I said they lived in Dimebox. The community was Box Church!! At least I had the box part right. Sorry! >Patti Cantrell >Granmommie's Garden >http://cantrell.mybravenet.com/links.html > > >==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ >

Pat, Yes, that is an old query I posted on the Millers and Smiths. Thanks for sending it back to the list, as it looks like I omitted some pertinent information this last query. Pat in OK

Yes, this is the same family, both of these women were sisters. There is a Sanders' buried with some of my Tidwell's in Georgetown, La, that ties back into the Sanders' of Limestone County but I have forgot what his name is. I will go thru some more of my data bases and see if I can find it. Jimmy Tidwell P O Box 389 Hawkins, Texas, 75765 903-858-3012 home 903-858-2727 Fax 903-530-4307 cell

They were sisters Jimmy Tidwell P O Box 389 Hawkins, Texas, 75765 903-858-3012 home 903-858-2727 Fax 903-530-4307 cell

Pat, I don't know what I was thinking of when I said they lived in Dimebox. The community was Box Church!! At least I had the box part right. Sorry! Patti Cantrell Granmommie's Garden http://cantrell.mybravenet.com/links.html

I don't know the name of the lease but I do know that the family lived at one time near the community of Dimebox near Oleatha. They were tenant farmers and moved around. Lillian's daughter's by Stevens were Minnie Ola& Mildred, and some of her daughters by the second marriage to Sanders are Nona Faye, Ella Pearl, Georgia Ruth, Lucille, sons Thomas (Tonky)and William George. George Romulus Sanders father was a Romulus too. My mother remembers going to Kosse as a little to visit someone but doesn't remember who. The oil lease comes from my grandmother not the Sanders side. Patti Cantrell ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Oates To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] addendum to Limestone Surnames Patti Can you tell me what the land grant that the lease is from or something about the oil lease that might help me identify some of this for you. One of the Sanders families I have used the girls names of Nona & Faye but they are not old enough to be yours & I know this family well. I may call a friend and ask him if he remembers any of the names you have given. His Sanders do not tie to the T Fowler Sanders lines as far as I can tell. Boy have you gotten me to wondering now. I am going to Groesbeck on Mon. if I have time will try some digging. Pat Oates in TX. At 05:37 PM 11/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >Pat, >The only reason I mention George Sanders is because he married my great grandmother after my grandmother was born, but I thought finding something on him would lead me to someone who knew the Brown family. My mother stills recieves oil royalites from the land in Oleatha so I know the family lived there. I don't know anything on the Sanders family. Nona Faye Sanders Krueger is the daughter of George and half sister to my grandmother. She is the one that supplied the info on Ferguson Cem. but she also says my grandmother spelled her name with a ph which is wrong. I have copies of the marriage records and ss on my both grandmothers. It is definiteley Stevens with a V. I know that Lillian is buried at Ft.Parker with George R. Sanders. But have no idea about Lillian's parents or the location of my great grandfather Jess E. Stevens brother to Tom and Katherine. >I am sure some of the family has that info but no one has said. I wanted to talk to some of them at my great uncles (William G. Sanders) funeral last month in Centerville but my grandbaby was very ill and in the hospital and I didn't get to attend. I haven't had much contact at all with the other half siblings. But I am still looking! >Patti Cantrell > ----- Original Message ----- ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/

Pat Is this your old query I found in the Limestone Co. archives? If it is some of the info. in it may be of some help. Pat Oates in TX. ] SMITH< MILLER Limestone co 1860 census Author: Pat Tennon [] Date: 22 May 1999 12:00 PM Surnames: Smith, Miller, Wright I have a missing Morgan Miller born 1813 KY. Lived Claiborne Parish LA, on the 1830 and 1840 census. Went to Nacogdoches county between 1846-1850 was on that counties 1850 census . By 1860 he and two sons Benjamin and John had disappeared (a great grandson of Morgans said they were hung as Horse thieves . A daughter Elizabeth Jane married Joshua Wright, another daughter Lucinda married a William Smith lived in Limestone co 0n 1860 census listed at 327-289 at Personville. A son Gilbert was listed on the 1870 Mc Clennan county census . If any of this sounds familiar to you, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Pat Elizabeth Smith Miller, wife of Morgan was listed on 1860 census Limestone co census 326-288 age 44 born IL,daughters Sarah E age 16, RA (Rose) 14, Martha age 12 (Catherine) all born in Claiborne Parish LA also 332-295 Joh W. Smith age 52 born IL wife Mary age 31 born in AL, males JC age 14, CKage 13, William age 7 , and two females A age 4 ,Mage 2, all born in Texas At 10:56 AM 11/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: >I will send in my brick wall names again. > >Morgan Miller born ca 1813 KY. married to Elizabeth( Smith?) listed on >the 1830-1840 Claiborne Parish, LA census. >children: >John, Gilbert, Benjamin, Lucinda, >Elizabeth Jane (married Joshua Haworth >WRIGHT ) >Rose , and Catherine. > >Morgan Miller and family on the 1850 Nacogdoches co TX census.. > >Morgan and two of his sons John and Benjamin supposedly hung in East TX >as horse thieves between 1850-1860... no proof this is true . > >In 1860 Elizabeth Jane Miller was listed as head of household with >daughters Rose and Catherine listed with her. > >Another daughter Lucinda had married William Smith and they lived at >Personville. > >Elizabeth Jane had married Joshua Haworth Wright and was in Anderson co >TX > >Son Gilbert Miller working as a hired hand . >Does Gilbert Miller have descendants ? Gilbert was born in Claiborne >Parish LA, name first appeared on his fathers 1850 census record >Nacogdoches co TX. He was in Limestone co TX for the 1860 census, and on >the 1870 McLennan co TX census with his wife Matilda and mother >Elizabeth Miller . After that I cannot find him. > >Any help greatly appreciated. This is all I have been able to find on >this family other than Elizabeth Jane Miller Wright, my 2nd Great >Grandmother. > >Thanks , Pat >

Pat, I used to work with a lady named DeJarnett years ago but she has since divorced Ed DeJarnett and both remarried. I do not know where either are now. I think Ed's folks were from Houston, however his parents would most likely be deceased now. They had 2 sons. Wanda writes: > Is someone searching this name? > Jones, Charles P. Dejernatte, Parmelia H. 11 Nov 1824 > > ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ > >

Jimmy I just kept digging in the Limestone Co. data base & guess what I have T Fowler Sanders married to Louisa Stewart after Mary Frances Quick died in 1894 in Limestone Co. TX.. T Fowler Sanders is buried in Ft Parker Cem with Mary F Sander & a grave marked Grandmother Quick. My info. on this came from a descendant of this family. I think we are talking about the same family & it is also the family that Patti is talking about because George R Sander I thought was a son of T Fowler Sanders. There is a Romulus M Sander b:1872 d:1931 buried very near them. Pat Oates At 07:16 PM 11/23/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Now you got my attention. What Brown are you talking about, My great >grandmother, Louisa Quick was married to a Stewart, then a Brown, had a child >by the Mr. Brown, and then married a Sanders. > >Jimmy Tidwell >P O Box 389 >Hawkins, Texas, 75765 >903-858-3012 home >903-858-2727 Fax >903-530-4307 cell

Patti Can you tell me what the land grant that the lease is from or something about the oil lease that might help me identify some of this for you. One of the Sanders families I have used the girls names of Nona & Faye but they are not old enough to be yours & I know this family well. I may call a friend and ask him if he remembers any of the names you have given. His Sanders do not tie to the T Fowler Sanders lines as far as I can tell. Boy have you gotten me to wondering now. I am going to Groesbeck on Mon. if I have time will try some digging. Pat Oates in TX. At 05:37 PM 11/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >Pat, >The only reason I mention George Sanders is because he married my great grandmother after my grandmother was born, but I thought finding something on him would lead me to someone who knew the Brown family. My mother stills recieves oil royalites from the land in Oleatha so I know the family lived there. I don't know anything on the Sanders family. Nona Faye Sanders Krueger is the daughter of George and half sister to my grandmother. She is the one that supplied the info on Ferguson Cem. but she also says my grandmother spelled her name with a ph which is wrong. I have copies of the marriage records and ss on my both grandmothers. It is definiteley Stevens with a V. I know that Lillian is buried at Ft.Parker with George R. Sanders. But have no idea about Lillian's parents or the location of my great grandfather Jess E. Stevens brother to Tom and Katherine. >I am sure some of the family has that info but no one has said. I wanted to talk to some of them at my great uncles (William G. Sanders) funeral last month in Centerville but my grandbaby was very ill and in the hospital and I didn't get to attend. I haven't had much contact at all with the other half siblings. But I am still looking! >Patti Cantrell > ----- Original Message -----

Jimmy Do you know if your Louisa Quick is related to the Mary Frances Quick who married T Fowler Sanders? What Stewart family did she marry into? I was wondering if the Brown family she was talking about could be the Browns in Kosse. I thought I had wondered into almost every family in the Oletha area till she comes up with this group. Pat Oates in TX. At 07:16 PM 11/23/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Now you got my attention. What Brown are you talking about, My great >grandmother, Louisa Quick was married to a Stewart, then a Brown, had a child >by the Mr. Brown, and then married a Sanders. > >Jimmy Tidwell >P O Box 389 >Hawkins, Texas, 75765 >903-858-3012 home >903-858-2727 Fax >903-530-4307 cell

Now you got my attention. What Brown are you talking about, My great grandmother, Louisa Quick was married to a Stewart, then a Brown, had a child by the Mr. Brown, and then married a Sanders. Jimmy Tidwell P O Box 389 Hawkins, Texas, 75765 903-858-3012 home 903-858-2727 Fax 903-530-4307 cell

Dear Jimmy, My great grandmother was Lillian Arenda Brown 9/8/1896-3/30/1957 who married a Jess E. Stevens had two little girls and then married a Sanders. I have her picture and info at: http://cantrell.mybravenet.com/stevens.html Patti Cantrell ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] addendum to Limestone Surnames Now you got my attention. What Brown are you talking about, My great grandmother, Louisa Quick was married to a Stewart, then a Brown, had a child by the Mr. Brown, and then married a Sanders. Jimmy Tidwell P O Box 389 Hawkins, Texas, 75765 903-858-3012 home 903-858-2727 Fax 903-530-4307 cell ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/

Pat, The only reason I mention George Sanders is because he married my great grandmother after my grandmother was born, but I thought finding something on him would lead me to someone who knew the Brown family. My mother stills recieves oil royalites from the land in Oleatha so I know the family lived there. I don't know anything on the Sanders family. Nona Faye Sanders Krueger is the daughter of George and half sister to my grandmother. She is the one that supplied the info on Ferguson Cem. but she also says my grandmother spelled her name with a ph which is wrong. I have copies of the marriage records and ss on my both grandmothers. It is definiteley Stevens with a V. I know that Lillian is buried at Ft.Parker with George R. Sanders. But have no idea about Lillian's parents or the location of my great grandfather Jess E. Stevens brother to Tom and Katherine. I am sure some of the family has that info but no one has said. I wanted to talk to some of them at my great uncles (William G. Sanders) funeral last month in Centerville but my grandbaby was very ill and in the hospital and I didn't get to attend. I haven't had much contact at all with the other half siblings. But I am still looking! Patti Cantrell ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Oates To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [TXLIMEST] addendum to Limestone Surnames I have read other posts you sent to the list on this line. The only George Sanders I know that was in the Oletha/Old Union area was the son of T Fowler Sanders & this George Sanders was born in 1887. I do not have a burial place on this family but his father is buried in Ft. Parker along with other members of the T Fowler Sanders family. I don't think any of this line of Sanders are buried at Ferguson Cem. I have worked every marker & rock in Ferguson Cem many time & have done some genealogy on almost every family buried in the cem. since it the Joseph Ferguson family cemeter & that is my line & lots of people buried there are related. For a long time in the early days only family or related families were buried in the cem. then after Joseph Ferguson died & most of the children they turned it into a community burying place. If this George Sanders is the same man who lived down there he was involved in a hunting accident that killed my Husband's Uncle when he was a teenage boy. Also if this is the same man they lived very near Old Union not Oletha. I will ask the lady who knew this family when she was a child & see if she can remember what George Sanders wife's name was. I have been doing some work on this line for some time now but do not have any really good documentation for you. Also have Stevens & Brown info. but nothing on the names given. Don't give up you never know what will turn up around the next corner. Pat Oates in TX. At 01:55 PM 11/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Pat, > While in the Oletha area did you happen on the family of Lillian Arenda Brown? She married 1912 (Limestone Co.) to Jess E. Stevens and later to George Rumulus Sanders. I was told by someone that Lillie's family was buried in the Ferguson Cemetery but couldn't locate anything when I went and walked it. They said she may be the daughter of Robert Brown and possibly related to the Mayo's. I have been looking for her parents and the parents of Jess E. Stevens. ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/

Hi Billie, I am sorry but I have absolutely nothing on the Millers other than what I found on the state censuses I listed. I sure wish I did !! Would be more than happy to share. Pat in OK

Billie Sorry the only Nichols I have is a Bill who married a Bead Lloyd b: 1858 in Limestone Co. TX. I have several Millers but not any that fit the names you are searching. I do not have a complete Miller family all the names I have are married into other lines that I have worked. Sorry. Pat Oates At 03:21 PM 11/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Pat... > >Do you have a listing for a MILLER that married a FRANCES (FANNIE) NICHOLS >b.1874 TX... I do not know his given name but they left TX for the Durant, >OK area. Would have probably been there by 1900. > >Billie Nichols-Bennett

Pat... Do you have a listing for a MILLER that married a FRANCES (FANNIE) NICHOLS b.1874 TX... I do not know his given name but they left TX for the Durant, OK area. Would have probably been there by 1900. Billie Nichols-Bennett ----- Original Message ----- From: "prechan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: [TXLIMEST] forgot to put the county > I am sorry I omitted the county for 1860 for Elizabeth Miller and > daughters, it was Limestone Co TX . Also, the same for Lucinda Miller > and husband William Miller at Personville. Again, Limestone co for > Gilbert Miller 1860. > > I thought I proof read this well, didn't see the mistakes until I > received it back. > > Thanks, > Pat Tennon Lawton, OK > > > ==== TXLIMEST Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlimest/ > >

I have read other posts you sent to the list on this line. The only George Sanders I know that was in the Oletha/Old Union area was the son of T Fowler Sanders & this George Sanders was born in 1887. I do not have a burial place on this family but his father is buried in Ft. Parker along with other members of the T Fowler Sanders family. I don't think any of this line of Sanders are buried at Ferguson Cem. I have worked every marker & rock in Ferguson Cem many time & have done some genealogy on almost every family buried in the cem. since it the Joseph Ferguson family cemeter & that is my line & lots of people buried there are related. For a long time in the early days only family or related families were buried in the cem. then after Joseph Ferguson died & most of the children they turned it into a community burying place. If this George Sanders is the same man who lived down there he was involved in a hunting accident that killed my Husband's Uncle when he was a teenage boy. Also if this is the same man they lived very near Old Union not Oletha. I will ask the lady who knew this family when she was a child & see if she can remember what George Sanders wife's name was. I have been doing some work on this line for some time now but do not have any really good documentation for you. Also have Stevens & Brown info. but nothing on the names given. Don't give up you never know what will turn up around the next corner. Pat Oates in TX. At 01:55 PM 11/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Pat, > While in the Oletha area did you happen on the family of Lillian Arenda Brown? She married 1912 (Limestone Co.) to Jess E. Stevens and later to George Rumulus Sanders. I was told by someone that Lillie's family was buried in the Ferguson Cemetery but couldn't locate anything when I went and walked it. They said she may be the daughter of Robert Brown and possibly related to the Mayo's. I have been looking for her parents and the parents of Jess E. Stevens.

Is someone searching this name? Jones, Charles P. Dejernatte, Parmelia H. 11 Nov 1824 Jefferson Ala. I think I have been in contact with someone working the Dejernatte name in the past if not only nothing lost. Pat Oates in TX.

Great, Pat - thanks. Lena