Jim, Thank You so much for doing this. I will definitely make this one of my stops. I do think it is a shame it is in such disrepair. I wish I lived closer, that would be a good weekend project. I would love to see your pictures. Once again it pays off asking questions on the mailing lists and sharing information. Thank You again; Shirley in Henrietta, Texas Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: Old City Cemetery. I am not well verse in Lamar County. However going to the Old City Cemetery gave me a good feeling. This old cemetery only a few block from the Paris square. I have lived in Paris for 11+ years and was raise only 30 miles away, but I had never heard of this cemetery. It is a shame how many of the old markers had been vandalized and broken. Many of the larger pieces of broken marker were laid out under one of the tree, resembled a large tile floor. Then all those tent shaped concrete grave covers (what ever they are called), most with no names but some had newer markers placed beside or in front of them. I did drive completely around the block before deciding were to park and which opening of the fence to walk in. Again, I suggest the south side from the vacant lot. You will need to get on 6th Street and get close to the fence before pulling into the vacant lot. The ground still slopes here, but not a much. I pulled in on a angle to make sure my trailer hitch did not drag. I did walk the entire cemetery and looked at every marker. I enjoyed seeing some of the old history names. I mentioned the A.H. Latimer marker. A.H. Latimer had a section of land in northeast Red River County that was an original land owner in Texas. Before the county seat was in Clarksville, in was in LaGrange (Madras) in A.H. Latimers house. It was he or Hamilton (or both) that was a signer of the Texas Declaration of Independence. I took several pictures with my digital of the complete cemetery and of some of the interesting grave markers. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" To: Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >I am coming on Oct. 7th. I am meeting Winona Harper in Paris. Her >grandparents were Clint and Sally Mae Lynn Tidwell, they are buried in >Union Grove Cemetery, along with other Tidwell's and Higgs relatives. My >great grandfather Virgie (William Virge) was Clint's brother. In 1900 my >Great Great Grandparents Benton and Nancy Parlee Higgs Tidwell lived in >Paris, Texas. Nancy was born and raised there. Benton died in 1906, >someone said in Haskell county, while visiting his son. Cannot find where >he is buried. Nancy died in 1923 in Spur, Dickens, Texas, while living >with her son, Thomas Almon. But I cannot find where she is buried either. > > I am going to meet Winona in Paris at 10 am, my son is going to bring me > and we will only be able to stay till about 3 or 4 because my son will > have to get back to go to work on Monday. > > I am also researching Nowell. William Virge Tidwell married Mary Francis > "Fannie" Nowell in Paris. They are buried in Grapevine, Texas. But > Winona and I are going to focus on our Tidwell and Higgs on the 7th. We > hope to meet someplace where we can look thru what material we each have > and compare notes and then go to Union Grove and The Old City Cemetery and > take pictures. > > Do you know if anyone else is working on the Tidwell, Higgs, Nowell, > Lynn, Emery surnames? > > Debra, I cannot thank you enough for sending the info about the Old City > Cemetery. I was really glad to read it. It makes you kind of sad that it > was mistreated in a way. Do you know if it is locked or if you can get in > to look around? > > Thanks again for everything; > Shirley > > > BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: > Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? I > might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help > you > get around. Just let me know. > > Debra > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: > 9/27/2007 5:00 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Are you going to publish the pictures on the Lamar Co., Page or one of the many Cemetery Photo pages that are available? I'd love to see them. Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick My Surnames for Lamar County; Lee, Henshaw, Eaglebarger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Giddens" <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery & some rambling. > Old City Cemetery. I am not well verse in Lamar County. However going > to the Old City Cemetery gave me a good feeling. This old cemetery only > a > few block from the Paris square. I have lived in Paris for 11+ years and > was raise only 30 miles away, but I had never heard of this cemetery. > It > is a shame how many of the old markers had been vandalized and broken. > Many of the larger pieces of broken marker were laid out under one of the > tree, resembled a large tile floor. Then all those tent shaped > concrete > grave covers (what ever they are called), most with no names but some had > newer markers placed beside or in front of them. I did drive completely > around the block before deciding were to park and which opening of the > fence > to walk in. Again, I suggest the south side from the vacant lot. You > will need to get on 6th Street and get close to the fence before pulling > into the vacant lot. The ground still slopes here, but not a much. I > pulled in on a angle to make sure my trailer hitch did not drag. > I did walk the entire cemetery and looked at every marker. I enjoyed > seeing some of the old history names. I mentioned the A.H. Latimer > marker. A.H. Latimer had a section of land in northeast Red River > County > that was an original land owner in Texas. Before the county seat was in > Clarksville, in was in LaGrange (Madras) in A.H. Latimers house. > It was he or Hamilton (or both) that was a signer of the Texas Declaration > of Independence. > I took several pictures with my digital of the complete cemetery and of > some of the interesting grave markers. > Jim G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" <shirleygrantfarrel@sbcglobal.net> > To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:09 AM > Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery > > >>I am coming on Oct. 7th. I am meeting Winona Harper in Paris. Her >>grandparents were Clint and Sally Mae Lynn Tidwell, they are buried in >>Union Grove Cemetery, along with other Tidwell's and Higgs relatives. My >>great grandfather Virgie (William Virge) was Clint's brother. In 1900 my >>Great Great Grandparents Benton and Nancy Parlee Higgs Tidwell lived in >>Paris, Texas. Nancy was born and raised there. Benton died in 1906, >>someone said in Haskell county, while visiting his son. Cannot find where >>he is buried. Nancy died in 1923 in Spur, Dickens, Texas, while living >>with her son, Thomas Almon. But I cannot find where she is buried either. >> >> I am going to meet Winona in Paris at 10 am, my son is going to bring me >> and we will only be able to stay till about 3 or 4 because my son will >> have to get back to go to work on Monday. >> >> I am also researching Nowell. William Virge Tidwell married Mary >> Francis >> "Fannie" Nowell in Paris. They are buried in Grapevine, Texas. But >> Winona and I are going to focus on our Tidwell and Higgs on the 7th. We >> hope to meet someplace where we can look thru what material we each have >> and compare notes and then go to Union Grove and The Old City Cemetery >> and >> take pictures. >> >> Do you know if anyone else is working on the Tidwell, Higgs, Nowell, >> Lynn, Emery surnames? >> >> Debra, I cannot thank you enough for sending the info about the Old City >> Cemetery. I was really glad to read it. It makes you kind of sad that >> it >> was mistreated in a way. Do you know if it is locked or if you can get >> in >> to look around? >> >> Thanks again for everything; >> Shirley >> >> >> BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: >> Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? >> I >> might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help >> you >> get around. Just let me know. >> >> Debra >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's new at >> http://www.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: >> 9/27/2007 5:00 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Old City Cemetery. I am not well verse in Lamar County. However going to the Old City Cemetery gave me a good feeling. This old cemetery only a few block from the Paris square. I have lived in Paris for 11+ years and was raise only 30 miles away, but I had never heard of this cemetery. It is a shame how many of the old markers had been vandalized and broken. Many of the larger pieces of broken marker were laid out under one of the tree, resembled a large tile floor. Then all those tent shaped concrete grave covers (what ever they are called), most with no names but some had newer markers placed beside or in front of them. I did drive completely around the block before deciding were to park and which opening of the fence to walk in. Again, I suggest the south side from the vacant lot. You will need to get on 6th Street and get close to the fence before pulling into the vacant lot. The ground still slopes here, but not a much. I pulled in on a angle to make sure my trailer hitch did not drag. I did walk the entire cemetery and looked at every marker. I enjoyed seeing some of the old history names. I mentioned the A.H. Latimer marker. A.H. Latimer had a section of land in northeast Red River County that was an original land owner in Texas. Before the county seat was in Clarksville, in was in LaGrange (Madras) in A.H. Latimers house. It was he or Hamilton (or both) that was a signer of the Texas Declaration of Independence. I took several pictures with my digital of the complete cemetery and of some of the interesting grave markers. Jim G ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" <shirleygrantfarrel@sbcglobal.net> To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >I am coming on Oct. 7th. I am meeting Winona Harper in Paris. Her >grandparents were Clint and Sally Mae Lynn Tidwell, they are buried in >Union Grove Cemetery, along with other Tidwell's and Higgs relatives. My >great grandfather Virgie (William Virge) was Clint's brother. In 1900 my >Great Great Grandparents Benton and Nancy Parlee Higgs Tidwell lived in >Paris, Texas. Nancy was born and raised there. Benton died in 1906, >someone said in Haskell county, while visiting his son. Cannot find where >he is buried. Nancy died in 1923 in Spur, Dickens, Texas, while living >with her son, Thomas Almon. But I cannot find where she is buried either. > > I am going to meet Winona in Paris at 10 am, my son is going to bring me > and we will only be able to stay till about 3 or 4 because my son will > have to get back to go to work on Monday. > > I am also researching Nowell. William Virge Tidwell married Mary Francis > "Fannie" Nowell in Paris. They are buried in Grapevine, Texas. But > Winona and I are going to focus on our Tidwell and Higgs on the 7th. We > hope to meet someplace where we can look thru what material we each have > and compare notes and then go to Union Grove and The Old City Cemetery and > take pictures. > > Do you know if anyone else is working on the Tidwell, Higgs, Nowell, > Lynn, Emery surnames? > > Debra, I cannot thank you enough for sending the info about the Old City > Cemetery. I was really glad to read it. It makes you kind of sad that it > was mistreated in a way. Do you know if it is locked or if you can get in > to look around? > > Thanks again for everything; > Shirley > > > BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: > Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? I > might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help > you > get around. Just let me know. > > Debra > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: > 9/27/2007 5:00 PM > >

Just for information. The Kirkpatrick Bates sounded familiar for some reason. I looked through my files were I had some Bates mixed in with some Beaty names I was collecting and found a KIRKPATRICK BATES married MIRANDA DAVIS March 28, 1869 in Fannin County, Page 40 Book Q. I have a few others Bates also. Armond Beaty ----- Original Message ----- From: "MRS Loretta REESE" <lglreese@sbcglobal.net> To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Bates family >I am related to some Nowells from around Lamar County and have some >information. Can you tell me some of the names and I will look through my >material to see if I have any thing on the ones you are related to. Loretta >Melton Reese > > Betty McCollum <betmac@centurytel.net> wrote: Looking for descendants of > James A. & Canzada (Zadie) Kirkpatrick Bates. > They were in Pope Co., Arkansas in 1870, after that in Paris, Lamar Co., > Tn. > Thanks. > Betty G. McCollum > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:09 AM > Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >

Hello list, I am researching  my great -grandmother  family. She  was  Mary Alice Robinson - b. Feb. 5, 1877 - Ark. - at some point  she  had  to go live with  the  Lem Gilliam /Gillium  family.   She  married  H.C. (Henry) Frederick in Lamar County  Dec.  24, 1891. Would  appreciate  any  information- help  on these  - Mary Robinson -family;  Lem Gilliam/Gillium family ;   HC Frederick . It  was  said  she  was  part  Cherokee,  but  not  sure about that. Thank you, P.  Adams ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I had a good visit to the Old City Cemetery. Maybe more details later but for now, the cemetery was freshly mowed and it good shape as for as the grass goes. Now worry about a gate or locked gate. I was looking for several names that were given. Lee, Hamilton, Tidwell, Higgs, Lynn and Emery. Lynn was the only one I found, many markers can not be read. I took over a dozen pictures of the interesting cemetery. Dessie infant daughter of Sml & Maggie Lynn born ??? 20, 1874(?) died July 23, 1875 Maggie A Lynn wife of S?? Lynn born Jan 13, 1851 died July 18(?) 1875(?) I did see a Mattie, wife of a A.H. Latimer, born 1844 died 1883 but no Hamilton. In the old Shiloh Cemetery in Red River Co. There was a marriage between a Hamilton and Latimer, early pioneer family came to RR Co around 1833. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx p.s. there is a vacant lot between Graham and the Cemetery. I parked on it close to the fence and walked right in after drive up on 6th st off Graham. Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" <shirleygrantfarrel@sbcglobal.net> To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: [TXLAMAR] Thanks Dian > Thanks for the info. I think it is sad. I doubt if you could even find > any cemetery records. > I am surprised that a town as beautiful as Paris is would allow such a > place go to "seed". > Thanks again; > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1036 - Release Date: > 9/28/2007 3:40 PM > >

I am related to some Nowells from around Lamar County and have some information. Can you tell me some of the names and I will look through my material to see if I have any thing on the ones you are related to. Loretta Melton Reese Betty McCollum <betmac@centurytel.net> wrote: Looking for descendants of James A. & Canzada (Zadie) Kirkpatrick Bates. They were in Pope Co., Arkansas in 1870, after that in Paris, Lamar Co., Tn. Thanks. Betty G. McCollum ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" To: Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >I am coming on Oct. 7th. I am meeting Winona Harper in Paris. Her >grandparents were Clint and Sally Mae Lynn Tidwell, they are buried in >Union Grove Cemetery, along with other Tidwell's and Higgs relatives. My >great grandfather Virgie (William Virge) was Clint's brother. In 1900 my >Great Great Grandparents Benton and Nancy Parlee Higgs Tidwell lived in >Paris, Texas. Nancy was born and raised there. Benton died in 1906, >someone said in Haskell county, while visiting his son. Cannot find where >he is buried. Nancy died in 1923 in Spur, Dickens, Texas, while living >with her son, Thomas Almon. But I cannot find where she is buried either. > > I am going to meet Winona in Paris at 10 am, my son is going to bring me > and we will only be able to stay till about 3 or 4 because my son will > have to get back to go to work on Monday. > > I am also researching Nowell. William Virge Tidwell married Mary Francis > "Fannie" Nowell in Paris. They are buried in Grapevine, Texas. But > Winona and I are going to focus on our Tidwell and Higgs on the 7th. We > hope to meet someplace where we can look thru what material we each have > and compare notes and then go to Union Grove and The Old City Cemetery and > take pictures. > > Do you know if anyone else is working on the Tidwell, Higgs, Nowell, > Lynn, Emery surnames? > > Debra, I cannot thank you enough for sending the info about the Old City > Cemetery. I was really glad to read it. It makes you kind of sad that it > was mistreated in a way. Do you know if it is locked or if you can get in > to look around? > > Thanks again for everything; > Shirley > > > BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: > Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? I > might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help > you > get around. Just let me know. > > Debra > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: > 9/29/2007 1:32 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message God Loves You Loretta Reese

I have been told by family that was living in Paris in 1982 (?) that this water tower was swaying when the tornado passed over. I was living in Dallas at the time but if I remember correctly there were 11 people killed in Paris by that tornado. It was a bad one. When I saw mention of the water tower, that was my first thought. I will may a drive to the cemetery later this p.m. and report back my observation. I will have my camera in case I want to take some pictures. Jim Giddens Paris (Reno), Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: <DianMalone@aol.com> To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery > My husband has a lot of ancestors buried in Old City Cemetery and we have > photos - taken several years ago - of some of them. JW & Mary Ann > Moseley, her > mother Annie Rucker Hodge and others. Gravestones date back to 1840's > and > 50's. My notes say the location is "under the water tower." If the > water > tower just NW of downtown is still there, should be easy to find. Sorry > I don't > remember and didn't record the exact street. > > Diane Malone > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: > 9/27/2007 5:00 PM > >

Looking for descendants of James A. & Canzada (Zadie) Kirkpatrick Bates. They were in Pope Co., Arkansas in 1870, after that in Paris, Lamar Co., Tn. Thanks. Betty G. McCollum ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" <shirleygrantfarrel@sbcglobal.net> To: <txlamar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >I am coming on Oct. 7th. I am meeting Winona Harper in Paris. Her >grandparents were Clint and Sally Mae Lynn Tidwell, they are buried in >Union Grove Cemetery, along with other Tidwell's and Higgs relatives. My >great grandfather Virgie (William Virge) was Clint's brother. In 1900 my >Great Great Grandparents Benton and Nancy Parlee Higgs Tidwell lived in >Paris, Texas. Nancy was born and raised there. Benton died in 1906, >someone said in Haskell county, while visiting his son. Cannot find where >he is buried. Nancy died in 1923 in Spur, Dickens, Texas, while living >with her son, Thomas Almon. But I cannot find where she is buried either. > > I am going to meet Winona in Paris at 10 am, my son is going to bring me > and we will only be able to stay till about 3 or 4 because my son will > have to get back to go to work on Monday. > > I am also researching Nowell. William Virge Tidwell married Mary Francis > "Fannie" Nowell in Paris. They are buried in Grapevine, Texas. But > Winona and I are going to focus on our Tidwell and Higgs on the 7th. We > hope to meet someplace where we can look thru what material we each have > and compare notes and then go to Union Grove and The Old City Cemetery and > take pictures. > > Do you know if anyone else is working on the Tidwell, Higgs, Nowell, > Lynn, Emery surnames? > > Debra, I cannot thank you enough for sending the info about the Old City > Cemetery. I was really glad to read it. It makes you kind of sad that it > was mistreated in a way. Do you know if it is locked or if you can get in > to look around? > > Thanks again for everything; > Shirley > > > BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: > Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? I > might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help > you > get around. Just let me know. > > Debra > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1037 - Release Date: > 9/29/2007 1:32 PM > >

Thanks for the info. I think it is sad. I doubt if you could even find any cemetery records. I am surprised that a town as beautiful as Paris is would allow such a place go to "seed". Thanks again; Shirley

Thanks for checking it out. If you find it can you check to see if it is locked where you cannot get in? I appreciate you doing that. Will be anxious to see what you find. Shirley Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: Shirley, I used Debra's instruction to find the cemetery and to look up the mile-long page of information. Most interesting. >From the location given, I will be glad to drive by over the week-end and have a look and look for some grave markers. Maybe that could give you and headstart with your limited time. I have worked on Bonham and 7th and have driven this area of Graham street probably at least 300 times. I have never noticed a cemetery (and cemeteries usually get my attention). However, I probably need to get off of Graham to see it. I recall a Self Storage business on that area of Graham. Maybe the graves are around behind the selfstorage. Whatever, I will at least drive around the block tomorrow and then go from there. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >I tried that, but I do not know what NW Quad 186 means; I went to the >Northwest Quadrant, but what does the 186 mean? I will email Ron Brothers, >but I was told yesterday that he was having computer problems, but I will >try. A big THANKS for trying. Did you follow the instructions that I sent >Jim Giddens, at the Lamar County GenWeb site, scroll almost all the way >down to OTHER HISTORICAL SITES IN LAMAR CO., click on LAMAR CHAPTER NO. >258-UNITED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY, then scroll down to PHOTO GALLERY >PICTURES OF OLD CITY CEMETERY OF PARIS, TOMBSTONES OF NINTH TEXAS INFANTRY >SOLDIERS. I was told this is somewhere close to downtown, but I have not >been to Paris in years and I just can't remember ever seeing it. > > Thanks for all your advise. > Shirley > > Matt Patterson wrote: > Shirley, > > Go here.... > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlamar/cemetery/cemlocat.htm > > I found a "Old City" Cemetery listed but can't seem to locate it on the > corresponding map. You might try e-mailing Ron Brothers > rbrother@1starnet.com . Maybe he can help. > > > Matt > SHIRLEY FARRELL wrote: >> I am coming to Paris to do some research of the Union Grove Cemetery. I >> have info about that cemetery, but I cannot find the location of the Old >> City Cemetery. Someone told me that it is in Paris and on the Lamar Gen >> Web site, it is listed in the cemetery list, but I cannot figure out how >> to get there from the Union Grove Cemetery or from the square. >> >> I have not been to Paris in many years and I need to make the most of my >> few hours that I am going to have, so can someone give me directions, >> please? >> >> Also, is there a listing of burials in that cemetery that you can find >> online? >> >> Thanks for the help in advance; >> Shirley in Henrietta, Texas >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: > 9/27/2007 5:00 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for checking it out. If you find it can you check to see if it is locked where you cannot get in? I appreciate you doing that. Will be anxious to see what you find. Shirley Jim Giddens <jimgidd@suddenlink.net> wrote: Shirley, I used Debra's instruction to find the cemetery and to look up the mile-long page of information. Most interesting. >From the location given, I will be glad to drive by over the week-end and have a look and look for some grave markers. Maybe that could give you and headstart with your limited time. I have worked on Bonham and 7th and have driven this area of Graham street probably at least 300 times. I have never noticed a cemetery (and cemeteries usually get my attention). However, I probably need to get off of Graham to see it. I recall a Self Storage business on that area of Graham. Maybe the graves are around behind the selfstorage. Whatever, I will at least drive around the block tomorrow and then go from there. Jim Giddens Paris, Tx ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHIRLEY FARRELL" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery >I tried that, but I do not know what NW Quad 186 means; I went to the >Northwest Quadrant, but what does the 186 mean? I will email Ron Brothers, >but I was told yesterday that he was having computer problems, but I will >try. A big THANKS for trying. Did you follow the instructions that I sent >Jim Giddens, at the Lamar County GenWeb site, scroll almost all the way >down to OTHER HISTORICAL SITES IN LAMAR CO., click on LAMAR CHAPTER NO. >258-UNITED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY, then scroll down to PHOTO GALLERY >PICTURES OF OLD CITY CEMETERY OF PARIS, TOMBSTONES OF NINTH TEXAS INFANTRY >SOLDIERS. I was told this is somewhere close to downtown, but I have not >been to Paris in years and I just can't remember ever seeing it. > > Thanks for all your advise. > Shirley > > Matt Patterson wrote: > Shirley, > > Go here.... > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlamar/cemetery/cemlocat.htm > > I found a "Old City" Cemetery listed but can't seem to locate it on the > corresponding map. You might try e-mailing Ron Brothers > rbrother@1starnet.com . Maybe he can help. > > > Matt > SHIRLEY FARRELL wrote: >> I am coming to Paris to do some research of the Union Grove Cemetery. I >> have info about that cemetery, but I cannot find the location of the Old >> City Cemetery. Someone told me that it is in Paris and on the Lamar Gen >> Web site, it is listed in the cemetery list, but I cannot figure out how >> to get there from the Union Grove Cemetery or from the square. >> >> I have not been to Paris in many years and I need to make the most of my >> few hours that I am going to have, so can someone give me directions, >> please? >> >> Also, is there a listing of burials in that cemetery that you can find >> online? >> >> Thanks for the help in advance; >> Shirley in Henrietta, Texas >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: > 9/27/2007 5:00 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am coming on Oct. 7th. I am meeting Winona Harper in Paris. Her grandparents were Clint and Sally Mae Lynn Tidwell, they are buried in Union Grove Cemetery, along with other Tidwell's and Higgs relatives. My great grandfather Virgie (William Virge) was Clint's brother. In 1900 my Great Great Grandparents Benton and Nancy Parlee Higgs Tidwell lived in Paris, Texas. Nancy was born and raised there. Benton died in 1906, someone said in Haskell county, while visiting his son. Cannot find where he is buried. Nancy died in 1923 in Spur, Dickens, Texas, while living with her son, Thomas Almon. But I cannot find where she is buried either. I am going to meet Winona in Paris at 10 am, my son is going to bring me and we will only be able to stay till about 3 or 4 because my son will have to get back to go to work on Monday. I am also researching Nowell. William Virge Tidwell married Mary Francis "Fannie" Nowell in Paris. They are buried in Grapevine, Texas. But Winona and I are going to focus on our Tidwell and Higgs on the 7th. We hope to meet someplace where we can look thru what material we each have and compare notes and then go to Union Grove and The Old City Cemetery and take pictures. Do you know if anyone else is working on the Tidwell, Higgs, Nowell, Lynn, Emery surnames? Debra, I cannot thank you enough for sending the info about the Old City Cemetery. I was really glad to read it. It makes you kind of sad that it was mistreated in a way. Do you know if it is locked or if you can get in to look around? Thanks again for everything; Shirley BBIRDSWIFE@aol.com wrote: Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? I might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help you get around. Just let me know. Debra ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn; I personally do not know but I will look on the 7th when I go there and see if I see that name. I will make a note of your info in this email and see what I can find. I have been told it is locked at all times, but I am going to check it out. Will let you know. Diane or someone else may know for sure. Shirley cgmartell@aol.com wrote: Diane, Do you know if any families by the name of Lee or Hamilton is buried in Old City Cemetery? My Lee family lived in Lamar Co. 1846-1900.... My great grandfather John P. Lee, was enlisted in the CSA, 29th TX Calvary,as well as his brother Charles G. Lee, 1861-1863. ?I would like to find his grave. He died in 1877, Lamar Co. TX Carolyn Lee Martell -----Original Message----- From: DianMalone@aol.com To: txlamar@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 9:42 pm Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery My husband has a lot of ancestors buried in Old City Cemetery and we have photos - taken several years ago - of some of them. JW & Mary Ann Moseley, her mother Annie Rucker Hodge and others. Gravestones date back to 1840's and 50's. My notes say the location is "under the water tower." If the water tower just NW of downtown is still there, should be easy to find. Sorry I don't remember and didn't record the exact street. Diane Malone ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Diane, Do you know if any families by the name of Lee or Hamilton is buried in Old City Cemetery? My Lee family lived in Lamar Co. 1846-1900.... My great grandfather John P. Lee, was enlisted in the CSA, 29th TX Calvary,as well as his brother Charles G. Lee, 1861-1863. ?I would like to find his grave. He died in 1877, Lamar Co. TX Carolyn Lee Martell -----Original Message----- From: DianMalone@aol.com To: txlamar@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 9:42 pm Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] Old City Cemetery My husband has a lot of ancestors buried in Old City Cemetery and we have photos - taken several years ago - of some of them. JW & Mary Ann Moseley, her mother Annie Rucker Hodge and others. Gravestones date back to 1840's and 50's. My notes say the location is "under the water tower." If the water tower just NW of downtown is still there, should be easy to find. Sorry I don't remember and didn't record the exact street. Diane Malone ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

My husband has a lot of ancestors buried in Old City Cemetery and we have photos - taken several years ago - of some of them. JW & Mary Ann Moseley, her mother Annie Rucker Hodge and others. Gravestones date back to 1840's and 50's. My notes say the location is "under the water tower." If the water tower just NW of downtown is still there, should be easy to find. Sorry I don't remember and didn't record the exact street. Diane Malone ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

The self storage unit is 2 blocks West of that, on the corner of 7th N.W. and Graham. Debra ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Sorry, don't know that much. When did you say you were coming to Paris? I might be available to go with you to the cemeteries and/or at least help you get around. Just let me know. Debra ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Name: Cemetery Old City Born: 1845 Died: Buried: Old City Location: NW QUAD 186 Notes: Old City Cemetery is bounded by Graham St., 5th NW, W. Cherry and 6th NW streets It is close to a water tower. >From the downtown square, you go West on Bonham St. (82 West), like you are heading out of town. Go down to 4th N.W., which runs North and South. Turn right (North). Go to Graham St., Turn left (West), go one block to 5th N.W., turn right. The Cemetery is in the above boundaried area. If you want to know about the cemetery, go to _Lamar County, Texas - Cemetery Records_ (http://gen.1starnet.com/cemetery.htm) Click on "Death and Cemetery Records of Lamar County", then click on "Search the Database" after you have read and agree to their rules, then type in "Old City" in the Surname box and click Search. It will bring up the Old city cemetery...click on that and there is a long page of information on this cemetery. Happy Hunting when you come to Paris. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com