This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sueskay Surnames: Miller Moore Maddox Gibson Dewese Deweese Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3709/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on the family of Elias J. Miller and Lucy Lydia Moore. They were married on 10 Mar 1877 in Lamar Co. Lucy was the daughter of James Alexander Moore and Parmelia Maddox. She was born Nov. 1853 in either Madison or Hinds Co., MS. Known children were son, Jack Miller who married Willie E. Gibson, and a daughter M. E. Miller. I last find Elias and Lucy living in Blossom along with her mother Parmelia Moore in 1910. Elias apparently died prior to 1920. Parmelia died in 1911 in Caviness TX, apparently living with her son James Benjamin Moore and his wife Lenora Jane Dewese/Deweese. I'm hoping to find information on the parentage of Parmelia Maddox Moore. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carollzerkle Surnames: Collins/Adkins/Martin/Osburn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3708/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for Young Collins who's widowed wife Lewellen Adkins Collins showes up in the 1880 Precint 6 , Lamar, Texas census living with her father Larkin Adkins & 2nd wife Mary H. Adkins. Lewellen was born 1856 in Ark & her 2 children 1. Billzira or Belle Zora Collins b. about 1876 in Texas married William Franklin Martin. 2. Laucinda Collins born about 1872 in Texas no other info, are listed in the 1880 ,Lamar, Texas census. Please contact me at cosburn2@sbcglobal.net or P O Box 85 Pahrump, Nevada 89041 Thank You Caroll Osburn Zerkle Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: redfieldvirginia Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/1649.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am the granddaughter of Henry Snell and Lola Martha Snell. My mother was Katherine Snell. uddy, your grandfather, was my first cousin and we saw him in Los Angeles during WW11 b4 he shipped out to the So. PaCIF,I can give you lots of infio. ontact me at redfield.virginia@verizon.net. I live in Edmonds WA and my tel. is 425 672 3141. Hope to hear from you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmckennamn Surnames: Clements Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3707/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great great uncle was Dr William M Clements who lived in Paris Tx. I am seeking information on him and his family. I am also trying to discover if he was related to Dr SE Clements, another physician who lived in Paris and was ten years older than William. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: garjohn123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3706/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information/grave of Willie McMinns Stogner. died in childbirth of Billie Lucille Stogner, my husband's grandmother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: etaylor1142 Surnames: PRICHARD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3705/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William Alexander Prichard (1849-1882) who went from Wilson County, TN to Lamar County, Texas where he married Sophronia J. Hudson, also of Wilson County, TN was my great-uncle. I have much information to share on this family member and his ancestors. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

-----Original Message----- From: carlock-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carlock-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:41 PM To: CARLOCK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CARLOCK] CARLOCK/CURLOCK Family of Garland Co., AR This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SETilleman Surnames: BOOKS, CARELOCK, CARLOCK, CEARLOCK, CURLOCK, DICK, GERLACH, GERLOCH, HICKS, KEARLOCK, OSBORN, TURMAN, WEBBER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carlock/540/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone identify the Rubin CARLOCK, b. 23 Sept. 1878; d. 27 Nov. 1900; who is buried in the Mount Carmel Creek Cemetery, Lake Hamilton, Garland Co., AR? David C. CARLOCK/KEARLOCK/CURLOCK (s/o Jacob CARLOCK/CARELOCK, George W. CARLOCK/CEARLOCK, David CARLOCK, Frederick CARLOCK/CARELOCK, David GERLACH/CARLOCK, Hans Peter GERLOCH/GERLACH), b. 12 May 1833, Bowling Green, Warren Co., KY; m.#1. Rebecca OSBORN, 29 Aug 1857, Montgomery Co., IL, then divorced; m.#2. Elizabeth "Bets" BOOK, 9 Nov 1858, Jefferson Co., IL, then divorced; m.#3. Elizabeth TURMAN, 1 Jan. 1866, Jefferson Co., IL; d. 16 Aug. 1906, May, Garland Co., AR, is also buried in the Mount Carmel Creek Cemetery, Lake Hamilton, Garland Co., AR. Was Rubin a son of David C. CARLOCK/KEARLOCK/CURLOCK and Elizabeth TURMAN? Although Rubin does not appear in the household of David and Elizabeth in Lamar Co., TX, on the 1880 census, I have not yet been able to find Rubin anywhere else on the 1880 census, either. The 1900 census, Antioch Township, Garland Co., AR, says that 3 of 4 children born to Elizabeth were living at the time of the census (June 18, 1900). The 1910 census, Haskell Township, Coal Co., AR, says that 2 of 2 children were living for this mother at the time of the 1910 census (Apr. 16 - 19, 1910). I have identified the following two children from Elizabeth's first marriage to Thomas N. HICKS, as found on the 1860 and 1870 censuses for P.O. Mt. Vernon, Jefferson Co., IL, and the 1880 census for McClellan Township, Jefferson Co., IL: 1. Stephen A. HICKS, b. ca. Jan. 1860, IL; and 2. Armina "Minnie" HICKS, b. 1861 - 1862, IL. Note that the Joseph HICKS, age 8 in 1870 and 18 in 1880, listed in Thomas HICKS's household is listed as an adopted son in 1880. He may have been a son of Thomas's second wife, Martha WEBBER, whom he married 7 Nov 1865, Jefferson Co., IL. Thomas also had a third wife, Angeline DICK, whom he married 15 Nov. 1877, Jefferson Co., IL. Joseph was listed in Thomas and Angeline's household in 1880. If the 1900 census was correct, Elizabeth TURMAN would have had two more children born to her before the time of the 1900 census. Was Rubin CARLOCK one of those children? Susan Cearlock Tilleman (STilleman@satx.rr.com) http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 4Milda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3704.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so very much for your prompt response... I just KNEW 1929 couldn't be right. So nice to correct errors. Milda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: betsymills01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3704.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lamar County, TX Marriages: John T. Wyrick married Erma Moore on 26 Aug 1930, Book 37, page 260. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 4Milda Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3704/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have been given information that John Thomas Wyrick m Earma Mae Moore 17 aug 1929 in Lamar County. This cannot be true because both appear in the 1930 census unmarried. Would greatly appreciate someone confirming this date or giving me the correct marriage date. Thank you so much. Milda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tellly Surnames: Jones, Jackson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/2027.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Charlotte jones born in Bossier Parish around the time cited. Her husband was Garrett. They had a son named Green Jackson born in 1867. Other ancestral surnames in the general area include Lewis, Reamer, Woods, and Wilson or Wilton. Please let me know if you recognize any of these names. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: clmurphy741 Surnames: Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3703.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tank you! I was just asking my Mother for a copy of this. My Grandmother is Leon M PHILLIPS (nee WEST) of Wright City. She could not locate my Grandmothers clipping of the obit. :-) Again thanks! Christine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbirdswife1228 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3703.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found this in the upright family file cabinets at the Lamar County Genealogy Library. This is transcribed from the 9/17/1990 issue of The Paris News: Frances M. West Hugo, Okla.---Frances M. West, 92, of Fort Towson, Olka., died Friday, Sept. 14, at Choctw Memorial Hospital. Services were conducted Sunday, Sept. 16, in the Fort Towson Baptist Church with the Rev. Mutt Wallas and the Rev. vernon Babcock officiating. Burial was in Fort Towson Cemetery by Lampton-Mills and Coffey Funeral Home. Mrs. West was born Sept. 19, 1897, in Celeste, Texas, a daughter of SAM E. and FANNIE LATHAM HENRY. She was a Baptist. Surviving are one son, Loule West of Fort Townson; three daughters, Mary French of Hugo, Swannie Ingram of Sawyer, Okla., and Leon Phillips of Wright City, Okla.; 18 grandchildren; 25 great grandchildren, and two great-great-grandchildren. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have this Brackeen family that is connected to my Beaty family by marriage of Lillian to Herman Beaty. Armond Beaty Descendants of Nathaniel Terry Brackeen 1 Nathaniel Terry Brackeen b: 21 Jul 1877 in Pokahontas, Tennessee d: 23 Dec 1939 . +Mary Ophelia Coleman b: 03 Dec 1882 in Athans, Alabama d: 19 Jan 1954 in Kern County, California .... 2 Lillian Maud Brackeen b: 21 Feb 1906 in Wills Point, Texas d: 08 Feb 1969 in Los Alamitos, California ........ +Herman Altus Beaty b: 11 Dec 1904 in Texas d: 14 Jun 1987 in Orange County, California ........... 3 Marian Beaty .................. 4 Rex Hiscocks Jr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <TXLAMAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [TXLAMAR] BRACKEEN/BRACHEEN/BRECHEEN > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: willbrecheen > Surnames: Brecheen > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/815.819.811.818.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Don't know much about him, but my father's father was supposedly "Sam" > Brecheen. My father was born in or around Paris, Texas, probably around > 1915. I think Sam was married to Mattie Field, my father's stepmother...I > think. Not very clear about that side of the family as there were quite a > few "halves". Half-brothers, sisters, etc. I have heard that Sam was a > barber. > Any info would be appreciated. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXLAMAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The following information has been gleaned from the Online Texas Websites. We are looking for photos or other information of Dellous W. Davis and Jimmy Gladys Lindsay, both of Lamar Co and the biological parents of Woodrow Wilson Wiese, born 8-4-1918 in Tarrant Co. Woodrow Wiese was given up for adoption within one month of birth to Joe & Ola Graham, then 12 years later after their deaths, their daughter Kitty and husband Ted Wiese adopted him, would like to know the family connection between the Graham's and the Lindsay's/Davis. Dellous parents were William L. Davis and Minnie Fletcher, he was one of about 15 children, he later married Dorris Hobbs and had 3 daughters, John Ann, Elizabeth Jane and Gertie Lee. John Ann md. Orville Ray Davis, had 2 sons, Larry & William & a daughter, Rebecca. Elizabeth Jane md. Randall Tallent, had 1 daughter, Dawn who married Jack Giese. Jimmy Gladys' parents were James W. Lindsay and Mary Jane Holt, she later married Raymond Norris, had 1 son, James L. Norris who had 4 children: Rita Jane (md. Billy Haynes), Mary Elizabeth (md. Leon Parker), James Timothy and Kenneth Richard Norris. Jimmy Gladys also had a sister Lillian who married Archie McFadden and a brother Crayton who md. several times and had several children. Woody Wiese grew up to be a fine upstanding citizen, served his country during WW II, and was the father of 4 children, 3 daughters and a son, the above information is needed so the Wiese children and grandchildren can fulfill their father's and grandfather's dream of knowing their biological roots. The Wiese's will be happy to meet with any or all of their many cousins, if you will only respond to this query.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: willbrecheen Surnames: Brecheen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/815.819.811.818.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Don't know much about him, but my father's father was supposedly "Sam" Brecheen. My father was born in or around Paris, Texas, probably around 1915. I think Sam was married to Mattie Field, my father's stepmother...I think. Not very clear about that side of the family as there were quite a few "halves". Half-brothers, sisters, etc. I have heard that Sam was a barber. Any info would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone have information on this family? Especially would like to learn the parents of James J. Crayton. Census records show his parents were born in North Carolina. Thank you.Diane Kuras texaskin@hotmail.comJames J. Crayton was born about 1820 in North Carolina, according to census records.James J. Crayton married Susan N. --?-- about 1840. Their daughters: Sarah Jane "Sallie" Crayton, born August 28, 1842 in Madison Co., Alabama married Thomas Eli Lindsay on December 13, 1859, died in Lamar Co., TX; Mary E. Crayton born about 1845 in Madison Co., Alabama married John C. Sanderson, died in Lamar Co., TX; Memory Crayton born Nov. 1860 in Madison Co.,Alabama married George Henry Holt in Alabama.1850 Madison Co., Alabma Census taken on Dec. 4, 1850527-527 J. J. Craton (Crayton) 31 M Cabinet Maker 300 acres Born in North CarolinaSusan N. Crayton 26 F Born in Virginia. Insane.Sarah J. Crayton 8 F Born in Alabama, Attended school during year.NOTE: Mary E. Crayton is not in the household but shows up on the 1860 Census.Susan N. Crayton was listed as insane in 1850. She must have died soon after as the next record shows the remarriage of James J. Crayton.James J. Crayton married Mary E. Majors on March 22, 1854 in Limestone, Alabama.SOURCE: Hunting For Bears. Alabama marriage information taken from county courthouse records.NOTE: On Sarah Jane (Crayton) Lindsay's Death Certificate, her son names Mary (Majors) Lindsay as the mother of Sarah Jane.1860 Athens, Limestone Co., Alabama Census taken on June 14, 1860.161-161 James J. Crayton 40 M Carpenter 800 acres $150 Personal Value Born NCMary E. Crayton 27 F Born TennesseeMary E. Crayton 15 F Born AlabamaMary Majors 65 F Born in Tennessee (Mother-in-Law)U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-1865Name: James J. CraytonSide: ConfederateRegiment State/Origin: AlabamaRegiment Name: 9 Alabama Infantry.Regiment Name Expanded: 9th Regiment, Alabama InfantryCompany: HRank In: PrivateRank In Expanded: PrivateRank Out: PrivateRank Out Expanded: PrivateFilm Number: M374 roll 10Source Information:National Park Service. U.S. Civil War Soldiers, 1861-18651870 Athens, Limestone Co., Alabama Census200-186 James J. Crayton 59 M W Farmer 1000 acres $680 Personal Value Born NCMary E. Crayton 34 F W Keep house Born in TennesseeMary Majors 78 F W at home Born in Tennessee1880 E.D. 183, Beat 8, Limestone Co. Alabama, June 11, 1880162/158 Craton, James, W, M. 62 Farmer, Born in NC, Both parents born NCMary, W, F 46, Wife, Keeping house. Born in Tennessee. Both parents born in Tennessee.1900 Big Creek, Limestone, Alabama Census.James J. not listed.Mary E. Crayton living with son-in-law, George Holt, and daughter, Memory.59-59 Holt, George, Head, W, M, DOB: Dec. 1849, Age: 50, Married, Number of Years Married: 21 Years, Born in Alabama, Both parents born in Alabama, Number of Years in the United States: 50, Occupation: Farmer, Can Read - Write - Speaks English, Owns property, Farm, 56.Memory Holt, Wife, W, F DOB: Nov. 1840, Age: 39. Married: 21 Years, Mother of 4 Children, Number of Children Living: 3, Born in Alabama, Father born in North Carolina, Mother born in Tennessee, Number of Years in the United States: 39, Can Read - Write - Speak EnglishPauline E. Holt, Daughter, W, F, DOB: Dec. 1879, Age: 20, Single, Born in Alabama, Both Parents Born in Alabama, Number of Years in the United States: 20, Can Read - Write - Speak EnglishJas. O. Holt, Son, W, M, DOB: June 1881, Age: 19, Single, Born in Alabama, Both Parents Born in Alabama, Number of Years in the United States: 19, Can Read - Write - Speak EnglishMary B., Daughter, W, F, DOB: Aug. 1882, Age: 18, Single, Born in Alabama, Both Parents Born in Alabama, Number of Years in the United States: 18, Can Read - Write - Speak EnglishCrayton, Mary E., Mother-In-Law, W, F, DOB: Nov. 1832, Age: 67, Widow, Mother of 4 Children, Number of these children living: 1, Born in Alabama, Both Parents Born in Alabama, Number of Years in the United States: 67, Can Read - Write - Speak EnglishName: James CraytonLand Office: HUNTSVILLEDocument Number: 9201Total Acres: 36.38Signature: YesCanceled Document: NoIssue Date: 1 Sep 1838Mineral Rights Reserved: NoMetes and Bounds: NoStatutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566Multiple Warantee Names: NoAct or Treaty: April 24, 1820Multiple Patentee Names: NoEntry Classification: Sale-Cash EntriesLand Description: 1 SENW HUNTSVILLE No 12S 14W 19 _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryHallFerguson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3702.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hope some of this will help you. I did not find anything in marriage records. 1910 Census of Lamar Co. 5th prec. WEST, Jude W Head m w 21 s AR KY MISS WEST, Paddy R brother m w 18 s AR KY MISS WEST, Mary mother f w 61 wd MISS IRE IRISH Hol DUTCH 1910 in OK WEST Walter Head m w 22 M1 3yrs OK Father ? Mother AR General Farmer WEST Mirtie M Wife f w 22 M1 3Yrs OK Father ??? Mother GA WEST, Thelma M Dau f w 4/12 OK OK OK ?????? 1920 I could not find anything close in 1920 1930Census of Lamar Co. 2 J-PCT WEST,Walter J Head Rent yes m w 44 m m no LA GER IRLAND WEST, Francis H Wife yes f w 32 m m yes TX AR LA WEST Luie Dau f w 12 s OK LA TX WEST, L??an Dau f w 8 s OK LA TX WEST,Bonnie Dau f w 41/2 s OK LA TX KELLAMS,Zeb B. Boarder m w 17 s TX MISS ??? Courtesy Response, Mary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: clmurphy741 Surnames: WEST Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3699/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello all, I am having trouble finding information on my Great-Grandfather Walter Judson WEST. Here is what information I have at the moment: b 07 May 1887 Pine Bluff, , AR d 15 Apr 1965 Ft. Towsend, Choctaw, OK (buried here, may have died in Paris, Lamar, TX) Married Frances M HENRY on 29 June 1913 in , Lamar, TX. Run away from home after a severe beating at about 12 years of age. Work somewhere in Ft Towsend Indian Territory (a place called Red Road) until he came of age. Then was working as a cowboy on a ranch in TX when he meet my Great-Grandmother around 1910 to 1913. They had 7 children, 5 lived to adulthood. Thelma Marie, Louie Willie, Leon May, "Bonnie" Cleo, Jewett, Living WEST, Swanie Lenore. Walter Judson WEST preferred Judd W. WEST, and his mother's name may be Mary or Marion (may not be spelled exactly that way) Hardin. I know that he has some Step-Brothers/Sisters and 1/2 Brothers/Sisters. I also was told that a member of his family rode with the James gang and that there is a possibility that he may be indirectly related through a Step-Uncle/Aunt or Uncle/Aunt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: doyal3hill Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.texas.counties.lamar/3698/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking information on death dates and place of death for BC Dockery, Sam R Dockery, Frank Gibson and William Gibson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.