This is a free service called Past Connections.� It is a database for people to list photos, books, bibles, etc. that they have in their possession, but have no family connection to.� It is also a place for people to submit a request for family items.� Some things are for sale, some things are available for shipping costs if you can prove your family connection. Melissa http://www.pastconnect.com

This came to me through my Ancestry.com newsletter.� I thought it was good info, so wanted to pass it along. Melissa GEORGE G. MORGAN: "ALONG THOSE LINES . . ." Special Federal Census Schedules <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ============================================================ One of the first resources genealogists use is the census. Federal population census records provide a benchmark for determining the location of people at a specific point in time. Depending on the year, the amount of information you will find in the census records will vary, with the 1790 census showing only head of household and headcounts and the later censuses providing every household's residents' names, ages, places of birth, occupations, value of property, and other details. In addition to the population schedules with which we are familiar, there are other special census schedules that may be of interest. These include Slave Schedules, Mortality Schedules, Agriculture Schedules, Manufacturing Schedules, and Veterans Schedules, all of which were prepared to provide information for administrative or decision-making purposes. In "Along Those Lines . . ." this week, let's discuss several of the special census schedules that may be new to you. SLAVE SCHEDULES In the 1850 and 1860 censuses, free African Americans were enumerated by name. Slaves, however, were enumerated separately from white persons and information about them was very brief. In effect, slaves were listed under their owner's name, and the only information included in these separate schedules were age, gender, and a racial designation as either black or mulatto. If the slave had some physical or mental disability, this may have been listed. Slaves over the age of one hundred were listed by name and, in some cases, may include details of their origin and their life. Otherwise, the inclusion of names is limited. The information included in slave schedules is exceedingly limited and provides little conclusive evidence of a specific person. The value of the schedules, however, lies in verifying that a specific person owned slaves and in confirming hypotheses formed from other material. For instance, your family tradition may include information that one of your male ancestors was born in 1842 in Augusta County, Virginia, and was born into slavery to a specific slaveholder. The 1850 census slave schedule for that county might confirm that the slaveholder did, in fact, own slaves and that there was a male slave whose age corresponds with the 1842 birth year. This corroboration may spur you forward to seek tax rolls, property records, probate files, and other records for that slaveholder which might name your ancestor. MORTALITY SCHEDULES Mortality schedules are an interesting and often overlooked resource. They provide a listing of persons who died in the twelve months prior to the census, and can sometimes help locate an individual who has otherwise disappeared. Mortality schedules are also useful in African American research in the 1850 and 1860 censuses because the names of deceased slaves are included for the first time. The 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, and special censuses taken in 1885 included questions concerning the deaths of people in the previous twelve months--from 1 June of the previous year to 31 May of the census year. Information recorded on the mortality schedules included the name of the deceased, sex, age, color (white, black, or mulatto), place of birth, month in which the death occurred, occupation, disease or cause of death, and the number of days the person was ill. In 1870, the parents' place of birth was added. Mortality schedules can be invaluable for locating a person who died in the year prior to the census; locating records of African American, Native American, Chinese, and other persons; and determining places of birth for some persons where no other such information exists. Determining the place and date of death on a mortality schedule can point you to other records created in the same geographic area as a result of the person's residence in that area or his or her death. Locations where mortality schedules may be obtained can be found in the table in the online version of "The Source" at the Ancestry.com Web site. The table is located at http://www.ancestry.com/home/source/src106.htm. AGRICULTURE SCHEDULES Agriculture schedules were taken from the 1840 through 1910 censuses. They include a great deal of information about specific farms and can be used to supplement what is found in other census records or to replace land and property records that are missing, were destroyed in courthouse fires, etc. Typical information on the agriculture schedule includes the name of the owner of the farm, how long he has farmed that land, acreage, the value of the farm, expenses to operate the farm, the type and value of the farm's produce, and the quantity of each type of livestock. Unfortunately, the 1890 schedules were part of the records destroyed in the fire that destroyed the vast majority of this census material, and the 1900 and 1910 schedules were destroyed by Congressional order. What remains, however, are the 1840-1880 records and they are not stored in a central location. For a complete list of where these records are located, please check the table in the online version of "The Source" at the Ancestry.com website. The table is located at http://www.ancestry.com/home/source/src113.htm. MANUFACTURING SCHEDULES There have been a number of manufacturing census schedules compiled over the centuries, and have sometimes been referred to as "industry schedules." The earliest such census was taken in 1810 but has been mostly lost and the data is incomplete. Others and their content were taken and some various records are available through 1880. Where they exist, they may contain the owner's name, the type of business, the capital invested, the type of products produced, and the value of machinery and materials. Again, for a complete list of where these records are located, please check the table in the online version of "The Source" at the Ancestry.com website. The table is located at http://www.ancestry.com/home/source/src113.htm VETERANS SCHEDULES Another often-overlooked census record type is the veterans schedule. Veterans have been specially enumerated in the census since 1840 when Revolutionary War pensioners were listed on the reverse side of the regular population schedules. The U.S. government published a volume of these pensioners in 1840 titled, "A Census of Pensioners for Revolutionary or Military Service," which has since been reprinted by the Genealogical Publishing Company of Baltimore. In 1890, a special census was performed for Union veterans and their widows. Some of this material was destroyed in the 1921 Washington, DC, fire which claimed most of the 1890 census. However, portions of this material survived and contains information such as the Civil War veteran's name, his widow (as appropriate), his rank and unit with which he served, dates of enlistment and discharge, length of service, post office address, and any disability. In some cases, Confederate veterans were enumerated in these schedules. Veterans schedules are ideal for verifying military service dates and the specific unit in which an individual served. These pointers can be used to search out pension records, military histories, and other materials. WHY LOOK AT THESE SCHEDULES? When you encounter dead ends, especially when no record seems to exist or when an ancestor seems to 'disappear' into thin air, alternate records may provide a missing link. Some of the records described above are more useful than others, particularly the Veterans Schedules, the Mortality Schedules, and the Slave Schedules. However, if your ancestor was involved in farming or ran a manufacturing industry, an Agriculture Schedule or a Manufacturing Schedule may provide rich content to expand your knowledge of the family farm or business. As I continue working on my family history, it is my curiosity about details of my ancestral tapestry that keeps me digging deeper. Learning more about my ancestors' lives gives me a better understanding of who I am, how my ancestral families came to be where they were, and why they made the decisions they did. This is part of the joy of genealogy. I hope you'll continue to explore these avenues too--using tools like these special census records. Happy hunting! George ******************************************************************** Copyright 1999 George G. Morgan. All Rights reserved. "Along Those Lines . . ." is a weekly feature of the Genealogy Forum on America Online (Keyword: ROOTS). The article originally appeared in the Genealogy Forum on America Online. You may send e-mail to alonglines@aol.com. George Morgan would like to hear from you but, because of the volume of e-mail, is unable to personally respond to each letter individually. He also regrets that he cannot assist you with your personal genealogical research. George is also the author of "The Genealogy Forum on America Online," which is available in the Ancestry Online Store at: http://shop.myfamily.com:80/special.asp?offer=a101020001101046 �

I want to remind everybody on the lists for Angelina County, Texas, and its neighboring counties about the upcoming VIRGINIA RESEARCH SEMINAR at Angelina College, in Lufkin, Texas, on Saturday, October 16, 1999. Unless all your ancestors came late enough for Ellis Island (1892), if you get back far enough in your research just about everybody has somebody who came through Virginia. Vendors are welcome. Call ahead for space. Speaker will be the well known Mary McCampbell Bell of Arlington, Virginia. Price is $45.00 which includes continental breakfast, and break snacks, and a salad and sandwich buffett lunch in the college cafeteria. She is an excellent nationally known speaker and it cost to get her to East Texas from Virginia. She will present four one hour and 15 minutes sessions on Migrations out of early Virginia to other regions and the use of Virginia records including deeds and patents, probate records and court order books and tax records with very informative and detailed handouts. Program begins at 9:00 a.m. In my other genealogy life, I teach genealogy and organize these special genealogy events at Angelina College in Lufkin, Texas, a two year community college 100 miles or a two hour drive north up Hwy 59 from Houston, Texas. While a lot of colleges are teaching continuing education/hobby courses in genealogy now, Angelina College is the only college in Texas that we know about and probably the only one between Alabama and Utah that is bringing in special speakers for fall and spring seminars and holding a three day summer conference. The dates for next summer's conference are Thurs-Sat, July 27-29. Theme is expected to be Researching the mid-1800's, the Civil War Era, if I can get enough speakers on that topic and maybe some re-enactors together. If you would like to be on the mailing list please let us know. If we do not have a good turnouts for these programs, college could decide not to sponsor them anymore. I have some areas well covered and almost nobody in some of the adjoining counties where there are apparently no local genealogy societies. Dates for the spring seminar are Friday, March 31, and Saturday, April 1, 2000. Speaker will be Rhonda R. McClure of Florida with a variety of topics. Some speakers will speak on Friday night and some will only speak on Saturday. Mrs. McClure will speak on Friday night; Mrs Bell does not. Mrs. McClure's Friday night topics will be Organization and migrations. Saturday topics will be one session on New England research and three sessions on using computers and the internet. For more information Contact: Community Services, Angelina College, P. O Box 1768, Lufkin, Texas, 75902-1768 1-409-633-5206. The name of the lady who does registration is Susan. e-mail fkanke@angelina.cc.tx.us fax is 1-409-639-3863 Seats are still available. Walk-ins are welcome on a space available basis the morning of the seminar. You can register the morning of the conference, but it is best to call ahead so that you will have a lunch reservation. Late Registration is from 8-8:45 am with the program beginning at 9 am. with a one hour break for lunch, 12-1. If you are interested in speaking at a future conference, send a resume and a list of topics with summaries on which you speak. Speakers are by inviation. Let us hear from you if you have suggestions for future speakers or topics. We need a good turnout for these events or college could decide not to sponsor them in the future. Vivian Toole Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925 1-409-858-3801 vcates@ballistic.com http://www.ballistic.com/~vcates college web page http://www.angelina.cc.tx.us click on Community Services

Laurie, I am also researching my Jasper families long distance (McLemore's/Morgan's). I found the Jasper Historical Commission to be VERY HELPFUL. JASPER COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION 138 East Houston Jasper TX 75951 (409) 384-6441 (409) 384-8090 I sent them a query with a SASE and a small donation, and got a whole packet of information on my family back. Melinda McLemore Strong -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Brandt [mailto:brandtfamily@sprintmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 12:10 PM To: TXJASPER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXJASPER] Looking for newpaper and a funeral parlor I am looking for the newspaper that served the town of Magnolia spring and the local furnal home. I hope to start to look at the obituaries to find Joseph B.s Mothers obituary, ca 1920-25. Also who the local furnal parlor might have been at the time. Is there a local library that might have back issues of this paper. I hope to make a trip over to that area to do some research. Laurie Wood Brandt

I am looking for the newspaper that served the town of Magnolia spring and the local furnal home. I hope to start to look at the obituaries to find Joseph B.s Mothers obituary, ca 1920-25. Also who the local furnal parlor might have been at the time. Is there a local library that might have back issues of this paper. I hope to make a trip over to that area to do some research. Laurie Wood Brandt

My Name is Laurie Wood Brandt currently living in Austin TX. I am the great grand daughter of Joseph Britton Wood of Magnolia Springs, TX. He left for California because of a problem with the Law. He then settled in Washington state and worked at the Navy Yards at Bremerton WA and died in 1942. He came back when his mother died some time during the early 1920 and then returned to WA. Joseph B. never said who his folks were or if he had any brothers or sisters. Laurie Brandt

THE ANNUAL STRAWTHER FAMILY REUNION Sept 25, 1999 Place: Hargrove-Brockman Memorial Bldg on the corner of FM1004 adjacent to Antioch Cemetery, out of Buna, Tx. Special entertainment: SWEET ADELINES chorus Everyone invited !! Please bring a covered dish, and join in the fellowship, food, and fun. Some of the names off of Ancil Watt Strawther's line are: Bean - Barnett - Brockman - Gay - Hendrix - Holmes - Jackson - Jones - Lowe - McGalin - Olds - Patrick - Whitmire - Williams - Young Betty Strawther BetStrawth@flash.net Thanks to Nan Pickle for forwarding this info. NOTE: If you would like to add Reunion, Homecoming, Special or Genealogical Events for Jasper County go to: http://resources.rootsweb.com/~calendar/cgi-bin/calendar.cgi?calname=Jasper_ County_Texas Check out the Jasper County Resource Cluster at RootsWeb: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Jasper/ RootsLady (aka) Barbara Yancey Dore RootsLady@lest-we-forget.com - RootsLady@email.msn.com HomePage: RootsLady's Home, Home On The Web - http://RootsLady.com The OUTHOUSE - Genealogy Humor http://www.lest-we-forget.com/The_Outhouse CC for 8 TX Counties & 1 GA County "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants."

Hey All, Just got this message from another list and it's really a neat idea. Pull up my father's name, Elliott Pepper and see the note I posted; then my mother's name Vidala Pepper and check her out. Looks like I am going to be really busy, another project! :-) You all take care, Yolanda Check out the SSDI data available from Rootsweb. It's updated info and includes the Post-Em feature described in the following message: POST-EMS. Now you can attach a message to any of the more than 61 million records in the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) at Rootsweb by using a "post-em," developed by RootsWeb's own Randy Winch. Some suggested uses: attach notes to the records of your relatives, providing researchers with a direct link to you; add background information on an individual in the database, such as pointers to other records relating to that individual; or add a correction to an incorrect record. Check the records of individuals of interest to you often. Someone recently might have left a note there for you. To add a note to a record, do a search and click on "Post-em" at the end of a record at: http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi.

See this has already worked for me. Somebody sent me info on a family reunion that is this Sat on a line that I have been dying to find information on. I am excited and planning on going to this reunion. THANKS!!!! Jane Keppler Conroe, TX

I live in Sabine County, just north of Jasper. I get the Jasper Newsboy and the Jasper Shopper every week. I can post reunions if it is okay with the list. Is there anything else that might need posting from the paper, too? I have had lots of help from other people using Rootsweb and would appreciate a way of giving back. Is this okay with listowner? Thanks, Kathy M Pineland, Texas -----Original Message----- From: RELPPEK@aol.com <RELPPEK@aol.com> To: TXJASPER-L@rootsweb.com <TXJASPER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [TXJASPER] Jasper >Wow thanks to all who responded. I guess I did not put what I was looking >for. I just thought it would be nice if someone who lived in Jasper and >reads the paper could occasionally email the mailing list and post any family >reunions etc. >I have several lines in the Jasper and Newton area and would love to go to a >family reunion. Maybe I'm not the only one. > >Jane Keppler >Conroe, TX > >

Sorry Jane, I would loved to have helped, by posting info from the news paper. I have just one small problem.....I'm in Utah Researching: Curry, Reeves, Morse/Moss, Foshee/Fosha, Whitmire, Durden/Durdin, Hickman, Chessher. Cheryl Curry Wilson ColORRed@inconnect.com Wow thanks to all who responded. I guess I did not put what I was looking for. I just thought it would be nice if someone who lived in Jasper and reads the paper could occasionally email the mailing list and post any family reunions etc. I have several lines in the Jasper and Newton area and would love to go to a family reunion. Maybe I'm not the only one. Jane Keppler Conroe, TX

Wow thanks to all who responded. I guess I did not put what I was looking for. I just thought it would be nice if someone who lived in Jasper and reads the paper could occasionally email the mailing list and post any family reunions etc. I have several lines in the Jasper and Newton area and would love to go to a family reunion. Maybe I'm not the only one. Jane Keppler Conroe, TX

We're just getting started, but we've already got quite a network going. If you're researching TROTTI ancestors, please visit http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/t/r/TROTTI/. There are subscribable mailing lists and digests as well as bulletin boards. Kristin Moore

Does anyone on the mailing list live in Jasper County?? Jane Keppler

> I received about a dozen e-mails this morning all asking the same question > so I know that I was not clear in my post yesterday. If you forwarded my > message about the WWI draft cards being at the GA NARA branch will you > please also forward this message? > > The original draft card applications (registrations) for every state (the > entire US) are at East Pointe. According to the Archive Staff there are no > plans to split these cards and move any of them to any other NARA location > since East Pointe has been charged with the "custody" of these records. > > It is only the original cards that are in state / county / alpha order. > > Someone posted a message to one of the lists that NARA was planning on > re-filming the cards since they are now in state / county / alpha order. If > such a thing is underway it is unknown to the East Pointe archive staff and > they should know if such a thing was in the works. > > If you request a copy of your ancestor's draft card from any NARA branch > other than this one they will be searching the LDS microfilm and you will > have to know the state and draft board for them to make a copy. It is only > at the East Pointe location that you can request a copy by state and then > county and the copy will be made from the ORIGINAL card. > > If I'm still unclear please let me know. > > Linda > Home Page:� http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas/ > Marion Co AR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ > Washington Co NC, Haas & Hass e-mail list manager > > ----------------------------------------------- > ���������������������� Lost your welcome message? > Send� GET ARKANSAS-ROOTS-L WELCOME� to� LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU� for another copy.

> This information came to me via another list, and I thought it might be > useful to many of you. Sorry, but I don't have the email of the original > sender. > > >� M. Dean Hunt > >� Louisville, KY > > > >� Good Morning everyone: I played hooky from work yesterday and� spent the > > day� at the NARA Branch in Atlanta and it jogged my memory to pass on > > some� information to everyone. > > > >� Prior to the US's entry into WW1 (approx. 1917-1918) every male� between > > the� age of 18 and 40 was required to register for the draft. The > > information� found on the card was provided by the individual himself. > > The registration� cards vary in information depending on the individual > > draft board.� But by� and large the cards include: The full name of the > > person (this� means first,� full middle name, any additional middle names > > and last name); the current address of the man; his age; his birthdate > > (some include his place� of� birth); whether he is a US citizen or a > > naturalized citizen (some� ask if his� father was a naturalized citizen > > and his father's race); his race;� his occupation; where he is employed > > (name of employer); address or location of employment; name and address > > of his next of kin; some cards ask if the man is married or single and > > how many people he supports. The card is signed by the draftee. On the > > back of the card his physical description is > >� noted:� Height is broken down by short, medium, tall although some cards > > give the > >� actual height in feet and inches; Build by slim, medium, stout although > > some cards list actual weight along with the build; color of eyes and > > hair; any deformities or injuries are listed (such as one arm missing, > > blind in one eye, etc); the name and address of the draft board and the > > date. > > > >� When these original cards were transferred to the East Pointe NARA > > branch the LDS spent about 3 years microfilming these cards. There are > > hundreds and hundreds of boxes and the LDS opened one box at a time and > > filmed them -� in state order. However, within each state the cards were > > filed by draft board, not by county or by draftee. This makes the > > searching of the microfilm difficult to say the least. > > > > The good news is that the Friends of the National Archives took each box > > after it was filmed (and checked) and sorted all of these thousands and > > thousands of cards into - state and then COUNTY order and then in > > alphabetical order by surname and put then in new boxes. The Friends > > deserveall the kudos we can give them for this monstrous task. > > > >� So ... rather than spending hours and hours searching the LDS microfilm > > you can order copies of the original cards from NARA. if you know the > > county your ancestor lived in between 1917-1918. > > > >� And BTW - Ancestry.com lists WW1 Draft cards in their searchable data > > bases, however I know for a fact that there are 22 cards for the surname > > WHITE� found in McIntosh Co, OK and Ancestry only gave me 4 of them so > > don't depend on that site. I was told yesterday that some reps from > > Ancestry had visited the archives a couple of weeks ago to talk about > > filming the cards, took one look at the hundreds and hundreds of boxes > > and simply left. > > > > For copies:� Send a letter requesting copy(s) to: > >� NARA > >� Southeast Region > >� 1557 St. Joseph Ave > >� East Point, GA 30344 > > > > In your letter be sure to say you want copy(s) of the WWI Draft > > application Cards. Include the name of your ancestor and his race, the > > state and the county.� If you want copies of ALL of the cards with a > > given surname, ask them the cost of the copies and send a SASE for them > > to let you know the copying cost. In your letter be sure and say you want > > a copy of the FRONT and BACK of the card. Be sure to send a SASE for the > > return of you copies. > > > >� The cost for the copy is 50 cents - 25 cents for the back and 25 cents > > for the front. If you only want one copy send a buck and say the > > difference is to be given to the Friends of the Archives, because after > > all they did all this wonderful hard work for you <VBG> > > > >� If you have any other questions about the cards please write to me and > > I'll try to help. I've been "delving" into these cards for the past few > > years.�� But PLEASE don't ask me to get the copies for you. It is > > difficult for me to� take the time off from work to visit the archive to > > do my own research <g>. > > > >� And feel free to pass this on to any of the lists you are on.

Hi Folks, By permission of Rootsweb, so that the servers may be tested under a load...... a great new Rootsweb service is available at... http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi It's the Social Security Death Index available for free. Be SURE and check out the "Advanced Search"..... you can search on every combination of fields. This new dataset will probably be announced in this weeks RootsWeb Review. ENJOY, RootsLady (aka) Barbara Yancey Dore RootsLady@lest-we-forget.com - RootsLady@email.msn.com HomePage: RootsLady's Home, Home On The Web - http://RootsLady.com The OUTHOUSE - Genealogy Humor http://www.lest-we-forget.com/The_Outhouse CC for 8 TX Counties & 1 GA County "In loving memory of all my ancestors and for the benefit of all their descendants."

I am looking for descendants of Elizabeth Guien Norgress who married Jacob Cole in Jasper Co. in 1853.

My search pertains to ELI CROW born in about 1839. He was my paternal great-grandfather. I would like to find out who his wife was and who his parents were. My brother says that our grandfather's dad was an Eli Crow. The only Eli I have found was the Eli born in 1839, son of Eli and Anna McLeRoy. My grandfather was William Cooper Crow. He left home as a teenager or before and nothing is know of his parents. William was born September 17, 1885 and died June 8, 1929. He lived most of his life in East Texas and Merryville, Louisiana. I am trying to find out more information on the Eli born in 1839. I found him on suelynn's ancestry page. My grandfather, WILLIAM COOPER CROW, apparently left home at an early age and was taken in and raised by the sheriff of DeRidder, Louisiana. Someone emailed me and ask if Lera Crow who taught elementary school at Call, near Newton, might be a connection. I don't know but any information would be appreciated and will be followed up on. Billy Crow

I am seeking information about the ancestors of my grandfather, William Cooper Crow, born 9-17-1885 and died 6-8-1929. He may have been born in the East Texas area around Jasper or Newton. It is said he may have had two half-sisters. Supposedly William left home at an early age and was raised by the sheriff of DeRidder, Louisiana. Someone said his father may have been an Eli Crow. We know nothing about his parents or siblings. William married Dora Jane Ruston and lived in Merryville, Louisiana and East Texas most of his life. They had three children, Buster, Brady and Harry "Bill". Harry Rudolph was my father. I was born in Jasper is 1935. Any information would be deeply appreciated. billy@thecrows.net