This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/327 Message Board Post: I am looking for my ggrandfather. He was born in 1906 and died sometime in the 1970's. His first wife was named Willie Maye Krabe (Mammie) and they had a daughter named Marguriete in 1926 and divorced soon after. I know he paid child support and he and his daughter had a few contacts throughout the years but never had a close relationship. Clarence remarried but we dont think he had any more children but this is something we cant be sure of. It is also rummered that he may have spent some time in a mental hospital? If you have any information please contact me. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WALTON, HOLMES, CLARK, HAWTHORNE, McFARLANE, PRICE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/319.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Terry: Thank you for your response. Yes, I got the orbit for Uncle Clyde CLARK. Several people sent it! Also have Beaunont Enterprise now book marked for current events. Hopeing to see orbits and history from newspaper archives soon!! I do NOT recognize your name and I do have a rather extensive CLARK file. Please, tell me where you fit in. Perhaps, your dad even knew mine; as Hubert HOLMES grew up with Uncle Joe and Uncle Clyde. I think they were close when they were young. You may respond to [email protected] Thank you again. Irene Holmes Walton; Nacogdoches ,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH, WALTERS, WALDEN, RANSAVALL, LEE, BEAN, et al. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/323.1 Message Board Post: Frieda, E-mail me and I will send you my Moses Swinney file and my aunt's telephone number. Her ancestor was Mattie Swinney, wife of Jasper Smith, Moses' daughter. I have some of his information, including at least nine children. This is not a family I'm working on, but I do have information on collateral lines. Terry Smith Bowers League City, TX

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH, WALTERS, WALDEN, RANSAVALL, LEE, BEAN, et al. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/319.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Irene, Please let me know if you did not receive the obituary for Clyde Clark. He was my father's first cousin and a very close friend. (Willard Smith 1918-1988) I saw it in the East Texas Banner. I don't think I saved it. You can contact the editor, Joe Herndon at 104 N. Kellie, Kirbyville, TX 75956 or 409-423-2696. I am sure that Clyde was buried in Magnolia Springs Cemetery. The obituary also should have been in the Jasper News-Boy and the Beaumont Enterprise. The Beaumont paper has an obituary section online but no archive as of yet. (beaumontenterprise.com) I would be happy to share my Clark family information with you. Terry Smith Bowers League City, TX

FYI: This is taken from the TX GEN-WEB page on Jasper County and it explains how the county divided in 1846 and Newton County was formed. I hope this information helps! Jasper County, located in Southeast Texas, was originally part of the Spanish "<A HREF="http://rootslady.com/RootsLady/universal/astdistr.htm">Atascosito District</A>" and under Mexican rule it became "Liberty District." In 1835, the present county was known as "Municipality of Bevil" or "Bevil's District." After Texas's independence, the district was divided into <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~txlibert/index.htm">Liberty</A>, <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~txjeffer/index.htm">Jefferson </A>and Jasper counties. At that time Jasper County included the land between the Neches and the Sabine rivers, but in 1846 it was cut in half, and <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~txnewton/">Newton </A>county was created from the eastern half. The 1835 census of Bevil's District enumerated 156 households and the 1850 Federal census of Jasper County had 192 households. The city of Jasper is the County Seat and was named for Sgt. William Jasper, hero of American Revolution. Paula LeBlanc Williamson Houston, TX

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Yolanda: Many Thanks for taking time to answer this question. I think in some of my cases, the county divided or changed county lines somehow.(in other areas of the state) Farmers who owned their homes were not so inclined to move. Irene HOLMES WALTON Nacogdoches, TX Yolanda Miller wrote: > > Irene, > In the case of Robert C. Myers, I am pretty sure that it was a move from one > location to another. He and Jennie married in Newton County in 1897. His > job is listed as a Locomotive Engineer in 1900; also listed is that they > were renting a house, so there was no real estate to bind them to this > location. Jennie's family were all from Kirbyville, so it is reasonable that > they moved there, she is buried there dying in 1931. > In some other cases, yes, the counties were revamped. People may never have > moved from their original homestead but the boundaries did. Another factor > is that a lot of the census takers were not familiar with the area and may > have overlapped the boundary, in this case you could find individual's > listed in two counties at the same time. Most of your dividing lines were > usually a creek, or river, but in some instances there was nothing to let > them know where to stop, usually they asked as they went if they did not > have good maps of the area, especially in the early times. > We are more in luck in East Texas, because most of the census takers were > local citizens, that not only knew the people but the area very well. > I hope this helps. > Yolanda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "walt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:23 AM > Subject: Re: [TXJASPER] Re: Where is Kirbyville in 1910 Census? > > > Yolanda: Could you explain the reason why Robert C. Myers and family > > were listed in in Newton Co. in 1900 ;and in Jasper Co. in 1910? > > Did they move? Did the county line move? Did the census taker not know > > where the line was? Could you, please, discuss this problem. Sometimes I > > find towns or communities that move or migrate within a few miles of > > were they were, but across a county line? Thank You > > Irene HOLMES WALTON > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/325.1 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Would that be Robert C. Myers, and his wife Jennie Ruth Syler? If so > they are listed in Precinct 3, #184-195 in 1910 in Jasper County and in 1900 > they are listed in Newton County in Precinct 8, #34-34. > > > Hope this helps, > > > Yolanda > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

I hope this helps. Re: Gilchrist. I found this in the 1830 Citizens of Texas on page 150 from the General Land Office Records: No. Name Leagues Lab Emigrated County Report No 37 Gilchrist Anthonia J 1 1 1830 Jasper 1 Clerk's Returns and Reports for Jasper County: No. Grantee Leagues Labors Date of Emigr. Remarks 507 Charles Gilchrist - 1 1830 Registered Voters of 1867 Newton County No. Date Name How long in Where Born St Co Pct 253 Sept 27, '67 G. A. Gilchrist 37 37 15 TX > Subject: [TXJASPER] Gilchrist/Boykin > Date: 17 Sep 2001 04:21:35 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > Looking for any one who knew of the family or descended from the marriage of Francis W. Boykin (son of Sterling Boykin of Boykin Springs Park on why 63 between Jasper and Zavalla, Angelina County) and Helen Catherine Gilchrist ( daughter of John Anthony Gilchrist of Jasper (before was Bevils Municipality, later Newton County > any information on any one fo these collateral lines please contact me. I still live in Jaspr County. > > 2233333333333753dd

Irene, In the case of Robert C. Myers, I am pretty sure that it was a move from one location to another. He and Jennie married in Newton County in 1897. His job is listed as a Locomotive Engineer in 1900; also listed is that they were renting a house, so there was no real estate to bind them to this location. Jennie's family were all from Kirbyville, so it is reasonable that they moved there, she is buried there dying in 1931. In some other cases, yes, the counties were revamped. People may never have moved from their original homestead but the boundaries did. Another factor is that a lot of the census takers were not familiar with the area and may have overlapped the boundary, in this case you could find individual's listed in two counties at the same time. Most of your dividing lines were usually a creek, or river, but in some instances there was nothing to let them know where to stop, usually they asked as they went if they did not have good maps of the area, especially in the early times. We are more in luck in East Texas, because most of the census takers were local citizens, that not only knew the people but the area very well. I hope this helps. Yolanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "walt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [TXJASPER] Re: Where is Kirbyville in 1910 Census? > Yolanda: Could you explain the reason why Robert C. Myers and family > were listed in in Newton Co. in 1900 ;and in Jasper Co. in 1910? > Did they move? Did the county line move? Did the census taker not know > where the line was? Could you, please, discuss this problem. Sometimes I > find towns or communities that move or migrate within a few miles of > were they were, but across a county line? Thank You > Irene HOLMES WALTON > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/325.1 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Would that be Robert C. Myers, and his wife Jennie Ruth Syler? If so they are listed in Precinct 3, #184-195 in 1910 in Jasper County and in 1900 they are listed in Newton County in Precinct 8, #34-34. > > Hope this helps, > > Yolanda > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Yolanda: Could you explain the reason why Robert C. Myers and family were listed in in Newton Co. in 1900 ;and in Jasper Co. in 1910? Did they move? Did the county line move? Did the census taker not know where the line was? Could you, please, discuss this problem. Sometimes I find towns or communities that move or migrate within a few miles of were they were, but across a county line? Thank You Irene HOLMES WALTON [email protected] wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/325.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Would that be Robert C. Myers, and his wife Jennie Ruth Syler? If so they are listed in Precinct 3, #184-195 in 1910 in Jasper County and in 1900 they are listed in Newton County in Precinct 8, #34-34. > Hope this helps, > Yolanda > [email protected] > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/325.1.1 Message Board Post: That would be them! Thank you! DJL

My Taylor ancestors were also listed in Kirbyville in Jasper County. I was told to try Newton County. Although there is a Kirbyville, it's just a spot in the road though.<G> We missed it twice! Theresa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/325.1 Message Board Post: Would that be Robert C. Myers, and his wife Jennie Ruth Syler? If so they are listed in Precinct 3, #184-195 in 1910 in Jasper County and in 1900 they are listed in Newton County in Precinct 8, #34-34. Hope this helps, Yolanda [email protected]

I have some information on the Swinney family, most of which you probably have. Moses and Nancy Swinney appear on the Jasper Co. Census for 1860, 1870, and 1880. Moses also appears in the Jasper Co. Commissioners Court Minutes, Vol. A. I have as children Adeline, b. ca. 1845 in Ark, who married a Sexton; Amanda, b. ca. 1861 in Tx; Bluford A., b. ca. 1855 in Tx, who married Sarah Jones; Emmab. ca. 1866 in Tx; Isabella T, b. c. 1853 in Tx, who married a Wilson; Martha A. E., b. ca. 1848 in Ala., who married a Smith; Maud, b. ca. 1870 in Tx; Nancy, b. ca. 1851 in La; Samuel H., b. ca. 1859 in Tx, who married Mattie E. Horn. There were some other Swinneys in Jasper Co. that I don't have connected, such as Charlotte, b. ca. 1835 who married a Monk, and F. J. Swinney, who appeared in JCCCM Vol A. I also didn't have your gggrandmother, Melissa. When was she born? Most of my info comes from the census and marriage records of Jasper Co, so I must have missed her somehow. Hope this helps. Dianne Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:01 PM Subject: [TXJASPER] Swinneys in Jasper County > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Swinney, Wilson, Thomas > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/323 > > Message Board Post: > > I am looking for information on the family of Moses C. Swinney, born 15 April, 1826, in Georgia. His wife was Nancy Wilson, born 16 May, 1827, also in Georgia. They settled in Jasper County, and are both buried there. Their daughter, Melissa, who married Thomas C. Thomas, was my gggrandmother. Any information would be appreciated. > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Myers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/325 Message Board Post: I am trying to determine where to look in the 1910 Census for residents of Kirbyville. I was led to Jasper County, but none of the districts in Jasper County specifically mention Kirbyville (that I've seen). My wife's ancestors R.C. Myers & family were there at that time. Thanks in advance for your help... David Larson St. Charles, MO

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AkB.2ACE/324 Message Board Post: Looking for any one who knew of the family or descended from the marriage of Francis W. Boykin (son of Sterling Boykin of Boykin Springs Park on why 63 between Jasper and Zavalla, Angelina County) and Helen Catherine Gilchrist ( daughter of John Anthony Gilchrist of Jasper (before was Bevils Municipality, later Newton County which the line was drawn through then middle of his property..his.wife was Sallie Milholme). I am descended from the above. Francis and Helen Boykin had about 10 kids, 9 girls and 1 boy. Dora being the last child was born in spring 1871, 3 months after her father Francis died in winter of 1870. Dora married John ANthony (Sabe) Gilchriest, they had Otis, Earl, Myrtle, Willia, Eula, Emerson, Ed (who died young), and Tommi (Jessemon). Sabe was the son of William Clarernce Gilchrist and America Mcmahon from Newton County. Helen Catherine and William Clarence were brothers and sisters. I am the grand daughter of Otis Gilchriest Sr. and daughter of Odis Gilchriest Jr. any information on any one fo these collateral lines please contact me. I still live in Jaspr County. 2233333333333753dd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Swinney, Wilson, Thomas Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AkB.2ACE/323 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the family of Moses C. Swinney, born 15 April, 1826, in Georgia. His wife was Nancy Wilson, born 16 May, 1827, also in Georgia. They settled in Jasper County, and are both buried there. Their daughter, Melissa, who married Thomas C. Thomas, was my gggrandmother. Any information would be appreciated.

Carol, I don't think anyone has found proof yet to tie her father with Jeremiah, but the name Theophilus C. keeps popping up in both lines, so I think there will be a connection somewhere. We will just keep looking. Maybe someone out there has something. Jean -----Original Message----- From: Carol Enright <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [TXJASPER] Jerry Delaney >Jean - does Jeremiah Delaney have any thing to do with Mary Ann Delaney? >Carol Dean Enright > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JEAN WATTS PACE" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:34 PM >Subject: Re: [TXJASPER] Jerry Delaney > > >> Hi, Juanita, >> >> Hope you are doing better. I found something on Jeremiah Delaney in East >> Carrol Parish, LA. This is the first time I have ever paid a genealogist >to >> do research for me. I found the name of his father and his father's >> succession (probate) record. John W. Delaney died 1831-32 ( I will have >to >> find the info to make sure of the date. Listed as minor children were >> Jeremiah Delaney and a daughter. Also listed were a son Charles H. >Delaney >> of LA and James Delaney of Livingston Co., KY. Some of the records he >sent >> had to do with doctor's bills just before he died and some receipt for >> children's shoes. I can't put my hands on it right now, but we do plan >on >> using it in the newsletter when we start Thomas' and Susan's children. >The >> next issue (Vol. 2 # 2) will cover all of the information we have found in >> South Carolina and we will start with their children in Vol. 2 # 3. >> Everyone has been very patient with us. We have tried to do this in an >> orderly fashion, starting with the earlier marriages and moving forward. >> Dianne is Dist Rep for Dist. 4 in DRT and also working on her Masters in >> Library Science, so with her teaching, she is really very busy. Talk to >you >> later. >> >> Jean >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jdmillar <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:22 PM >> Subject: [TXJASPER] Jerry Delaney >> >> >> >Hello. My name is Juanita Dickerson Millar. >> >My address is [email protected] >> >My interest in Jasper County is Jerry Delaney, his parents and siblings. >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Juanita >> > >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> > >> >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >> learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >> http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >> > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Jean - does Jeremiah Delaney have any thing to do with Mary Ann Delaney? Carol Dean Enright ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEAN WATTS PACE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [TXJASPER] Jerry Delaney > Hi, Juanita, > > Hope you are doing better. I found something on Jeremiah Delaney in East > Carrol Parish, LA. This is the first time I have ever paid a genealogist to > do research for me. I found the name of his father and his father's > succession (probate) record. John W. Delaney died 1831-32 ( I will have to > find the info to make sure of the date. Listed as minor children were > Jeremiah Delaney and a daughter. Also listed were a son Charles H. Delaney > of LA and James Delaney of Livingston Co., KY. Some of the records he sent > had to do with doctor's bills just before he died and some receipt for > children's shoes. I can't put my hands on it right now, but we do plan on > using it in the newsletter when we start Thomas' and Susan's children. The > next issue (Vol. 2 # 2) will cover all of the information we have found in > South Carolina and we will start with their children in Vol. 2 # 3. > Everyone has been very patient with us. We have tried to do this in an > orderly fashion, starting with the earlier marriages and moving forward. > Dianne is Dist Rep for Dist. 4 in DRT and also working on her Masters in > Library Science, so with her teaching, she is really very busy. Talk to you > later. > > Jean > -----Original Message----- > From: jdmillar <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:22 PM > Subject: [TXJASPER] Jerry Delaney > > > >Hello. My name is Juanita Dickerson Millar. > >My address is [email protected] > >My interest in Jasper County is Jerry Delaney, his parents and siblings. > > > >Thanks, > >Juanita > > > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >