This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HlB.2ACI/699.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I did not know Delta or her family at all. I did know her husband since he was a relative of mine. The only person who would know anything about her would be Elizabeth Shawver Cramer=Mrs. Jud {or Judd} Cramer in Ft. Worth , Texas. I don't know her address or phone number. I do know that she has done extensive genealogy work on the Shawver family too. Sorry I can't help more. MLS