Marcia, why would she an adult need that information? Unless she is mentally or physical handicapped? If she was born in USA...and has a B/C that should be all the proof needed...and if your father received SS benefits they should have those records...and also he would have had to have had an amended? B/C stating that he was born in USA, so contact Austin TX...I'm sorry but can't think of the correct term for the B/C...my mom was born in 1901 and had to get one and used her mother's family Bible to prove when/where she was born. How old is your sister? Who took care of her after the parents died? maybe if you were made her legal guardian, then you could apply for it like that, you do need to call an attorney. Are you sure your dad didn't give up his citizenship when he moved to Canada? maybe check with their government too. Good luck, you will need it dealing with our government....:( Janice Been through the SSD game and it is a living night mare...prayers you can get the information you need. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > We do have the DC, along with my BC, ect. It has apparantly come to > ...However, the SS office has said the Death Cert does not PROVE he was born > in the US, I say the Census does, as he as aprox. 10 in 1900. Never in my > wildest dreams did we think this would happen. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:10 PM > Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > Do you have a copy of his death certificate? That should have his date > and > > place of birth. If they don't accept that, then they ARE idiots! haha!!! > > I would think that the DC is a legal document and should be acceptable. > But > > you know they will make it as difficult as they possibly can because they > > think they can. > > > > Honestly, if your sister isn't successful on her own soon, she should > > consider hiring an attorney to help her out. In the mean time I will see > > what I can come up with for you. > > > > Sincerely, > > Donna Allen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > > > Goodevening all, > > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later > they > > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were > born > > in the U.S. > > > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > > > Sincerely > > Marcia Collins > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Do you have genealogical resources for Hunt County? Then > > volunteer to be a Lookup Volunteer! Contact the county > > coordinator at [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb! > http://www.rootsweb.com >

I have access to the 1860 and can do a lookup....who do you need? Mike and Donna Allen wrote: > I never thought about checking for delayed BC's for my ancestors. Would I > go through the VS office in Austin? I also wonder if they do these for > other states as well. > > Also, would anyone have any information on the 1860 Hunt Co. Census? I > really need to locate it if its out there any where. Were these kept at the > courthouse, OR do (did) they keep these in a centrally located place? I'm > at a loss as to where to look for this. Any and all help would be > TREMENDOUSLY appreciated. > > D. Allen > > -----Original Message----- > From: billysmithey [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > Check with the Texas Vital Statistics folks. Many times people were issued > Delayed Birth Certificates for Social Security purposes. These certificates > were signed by parents or siblings to verify the age and birth location. > Also, give these folks any spelling variation you can think of. > > Take Care, > Billy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:43 PM > Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > >>Ms. Collins, >>Did he ever serve in the U.S. Military? I'm thinking maybe any type of >>service record.........I would be willing to help out any way I can and >>would do so without a fee. I will print your email and use the >> > information > >>you gave. Would that be okay with you? I hate it that your sister has >> > been > >>denied her SS benefits due to a little red tape. What forms of proof are >>they requiring? >> >>Donna Allen >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship >> >> >>Goodevening all, >>I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a >>nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. >> >>My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) >>His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in >>Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. >> >>My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore >>from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River >>CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. >> >>My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in >>Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later >> > they > >>moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his >>life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were >> > born > >>in the U.S. >> >>My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. >>My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received >>Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have >>afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of >>the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . >> >>I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. >>Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to >>apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena >>citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. >> >>I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the >>Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. >> >>Sincerely >>Marcia Collins >> >> >> >>==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== >>Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No >>poems, virus warnings, etc. >> >> >> >>==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== >>Support Rootsweb! >>http://www.rootsweb.com >> > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Don't forget! The Hunt County GenWeb Project Home Page has moved to > http://www.geocities.com/countyofhunt > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Please remember to update your bookmarks! The Hunt County > GenWeb Project is no longer located on cottonmuseum.com or vpltz.com Please > visit our new site at http://www.geocities.com/countyofhunt > > > -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Genealogy: Begins as an interest, Becomes a hobby, Continues as an avocation, takes over as an obsession and in its last stage is an incurable disease." Lueck http://www.geocities.com/lueck_lick/ Honnoll http://www.geocities.com/honnoll_honnell/index.html Winton http://www.geocities.com/mawpeggy1946/index.html

Did your father have a soc. sec. #, if so his application should indicate where he was born. The Soc. Sec. Admn is a pain...have had experience with them when our son was disabled. We had to write our Congressman for help. Right after our congressman became involved, we recd notice he would be receiving benefits and we recd a ck not long after that. Do you have all the census for your father since his birth, of course the 1890 would have been nice. Peggy

What type of Voter Registration records are there for Hunt Co. prior to 1930?

The school records do not seem to matter. I am feeling she need go to a differnt SS office than in Topeka, Ks where we live. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Where did your sister go to school? Do you think the school records might > help, specially where she entered first grade? > Bob Wilson > Wimberley, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:34 PM > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > Goodevening all, > > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > > > Sincerely > > Marcia Collins > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out the Hunt County GenWeb Archives? > http://www.geocities.com/countyofhunt/hcgenarch.htm > > >

We do have the DC, along with my BC, ect. It has apparantly come to ...However, the SS office has said the Death Cert does not PROVE he was born in the US, I say the Census does, as he as aprox. 10 in 1900. Never in my wildest dreams did we think this would happen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Do you have a copy of his death certificate? That should have his date and > place of birth. If they don't accept that, then they ARE idiots! haha!!! > I would think that the DC is a legal document and should be acceptable. But > you know they will make it as difficult as they possibly can because they > think they can. > > Honestly, if your sister isn't successful on her own soon, she should > consider hiring an attorney to help her out. In the mean time I will see > what I can come up with for you. > > Sincerely, > Donna Allen > > -----Original Message----- > From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Do you have genealogical resources for Hunt County? Then > volunteer to be a Lookup Volunteer! Contact the county > coordinator at [email protected] > > >

Donna, Would you have a family Bible with information in it? My grandad did not have a birth certificate either and got his SS (around 1960) by using his mother's family Bible. He was born in Ala. in the late 1800s. I now have this Bible. Do you have an old family Bible with birth dates and family names in it? Patsy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Ms. Collins, > Did he ever serve in the U.S. Military? I'm thinking maybe any type of > service record.........I would be willing to help out any way I can and > would do so without a fee. I will print your email and use the information > you gave. Would that be okay with you? I hate it that your sister has been > denied her SS benefits due to a little red tape. What forms of proof are > they requiring? > > Donna Allen > > -----Original Message----- > From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb! > http://www.rootsweb.com > >

I never thought about checking for delayed BC's for my ancestors. Would I go through the VS office in Austin? I also wonder if they do these for other states as well. Also, would anyone have any information on the 1860 Hunt Co. Census? I really need to locate it if its out there any where. Were these kept at the courthouse, OR do (did) they keep these in a centrally located place? I'm at a loss as to where to look for this. Any and all help would be TREMENDOUSLY appreciated. D. Allen -----Original Message----- From: billysmithey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship Check with the Texas Vital Statistics folks. Many times people were issued Delayed Birth Certificates for Social Security purposes. These certificates were signed by parents or siblings to verify the age and birth location. Also, give these folks any spelling variation you can think of. Take Care, Billy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Ms. Collins, > Did he ever serve in the U.S. Military? I'm thinking maybe any type of > service record.........I would be willing to help out any way I can and > would do so without a fee. I will print your email and use the information > you gave. Would that be okay with you? I hate it that your sister has been > denied her SS benefits due to a little red tape. What forms of proof are > they requiring? > > Donna Allen > > -----Original Message----- > From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb! > http://www.rootsweb.com ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== Don't forget! The Hunt County GenWeb Project Home Page has moved to http://www.geocities.com/countyofhunt

yes there was a statement Daddy was a citizen, also, my other sisters and I birth cert. state he was born in Kingston Tx. YET...This is not being accepted because we cannot substaniate it with hard data such as a Birth Cert. of Daddy. This is just more anoying that you can imagine, and a big catch 22 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Another question, does your mother's naturalization papers reference your > father's citizenship? > Bob Wilson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:34 PM > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > Goodevening all, > > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > > > Sincerely > > Marcia Collins > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Do you have family information to submit? Contact the county coordinator > at [email protected] > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Where did your sister go to school? Do you think the school records might > help, specially where she entered first grade? > Bob Wilson > Wimberley, TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:34 PM > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > Goodevening all, > > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > > > Sincerely > > Marcia Collins > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out the Hunt County GenWeb Archives? > http://www.geocities.com/countyofhunt/hcgenarch.htm > > >

Do you have a copy of his death certificate? That should have his date and place of birth. If they don't accept that, then they ARE idiots! haha!!! I would think that the DC is a legal document and should be acceptable. But you know they will make it as difficult as they possibly can because they think they can. Honestly, if your sister isn't successful on her own soon, she should consider hiring an attorney to help her out. In the mean time I will see what I can come up with for you. Sincerely, Donna Allen -----Original Message----- From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship Goodevening all, I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born in the U.S. My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. Sincerely Marcia Collins ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No poems, virus warnings, etc.

Another question, does your mother's naturalization papers reference your father's citizenship? Bob Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. > >

Where did your sister go to school? Do you think the school records might help, specially where she entered first grade? Bob Wilson Wimberley, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. > >

Thank you....We have looked all over for copied of org. papers, but thru the years, moves, tornado ect. We don't have them..Great to know! ----- Original Message ----- From: "billysmithey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Check with the Texas Vital Statistics folks. Many times people were issued > Delayed Birth Certificates for Social Security purposes. These certificates > were signed by parents or siblings to verify the age and birth location. > Also, give these folks any spelling variation you can think of. > > Take Care, > Billy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:43 PM > Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > Ms. Collins, > > Did he ever serve in the U.S. Military? I'm thinking maybe any type of > > service record.........I would be willing to help out any way I can and > > would do so without a fee. I will print your email and use the > information > > you gave. Would that be okay with you? I hate it that your sister has > been > > denied her SS benefits due to a little red tape. What forms of proof are > > they requiring? > > > > Donna Allen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > > > > Goodevening all, > > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later > they > > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were > born > > in the U.S. > > > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > > > Sincerely > > Marcia Collins > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > > Support Rootsweb! > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Don't forget! The Hunt County GenWeb Project Home Page has moved to > http://www.geocities.com/countyofhunt > > >

Check with the Texas Vital Statistics folks. Many times people were issued Delayed Birth Certificates for Social Security purposes. These certificates were signed by parents or siblings to verify the age and birth location. Also, give these folks any spelling variation you can think of. Take Care, Billy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Donna Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: RE: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Ms. Collins, > Did he ever serve in the U.S. Military? I'm thinking maybe any type of > service record.........I would be willing to help out any way I can and > would do so without a fee. I will print your email and use the information > you gave. Would that be okay with you? I hate it that your sister has been > denied her SS benefits due to a little red tape. What forms of proof are > they requiring? > > Donna Allen > > -----Original Message----- > From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > > > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a > nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in > Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore > from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River > CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in > Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they > moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his > life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born > in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received > Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have > afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of > the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. > Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to > apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena > citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the > Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Support Rootsweb! > http://www.rootsweb.com

Hello, No Daddy never did serve in the Military. He was a Miller most of his life. I understand that had a bit to do with it, needing the mills to keep running. This really is unbelievable. I have located Daddy on the 1900 census, and we have obtained a certified copy of same, yet at this time, that is NOT proof positive of his citizenship. I cannot help but feel the Social Security person we are dealing with is a dolt!. I have taken pages of my genology, she would not even look at it. a few years ago, my sister and her husband of 40 years went on an aniversary cruise, Lou could not get a passport due to her Canadian Birth certif. They had to change plans and go on a trip that allowed you to enter with birth cert., and were friendly to Canada and the U.S. My sister HAS a Social Security Card, issued to her when she was 15 years old. OR rather, the number, the card is long gone. The Caveat is, WITHOUT the original card for proof of citizenship, she cannot be ISSUED A NEW OR REPLACEMENT card. Have you ever heard of such an assinine thing? Thank you for you offer, we will gladly pay your gas and time.

Ms. Collins, Did he ever serve in the U.S. Military? I'm thinking maybe any type of service record.........I would be willing to help out any way I can and would do so without a fee. I will print your email and use the information you gave. Would that be okay with you? I hate it that your sister has been denied her SS benefits due to a little red tape. What forms of proof are they requiring? Donna Allen -----Original Message----- From: marcia collins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 8:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship Goodevening all, I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born in the U.S. My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. Sincerely Marcia Collins ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No poems, virus warnings, etc.

Goodevening all, I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born in the U.S. My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. Sincerely Marcia Collins

Dear Marcia, Have you checked with the County Courthouse or the Town Hall where your father was born? The state of Texas does NOT have my mothers birth certificate (born 1920) but the Town Hall did have it, and that is what solved her Social Security application problems. Good luck, Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "marcia collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 6:34 PM Subject: [TXHUNT-L] request for help in proof of citizenship > Goodevening all, > I am requesting help in proving my fathers citizenship. This has become a nightmare that is all but unbeleivable. > > My Father, James Roy Moore, born 1889 in Kingston, Tx. ( Hunt Co. ) > His mother was Martha Louzettie Bussell Moore, his Father, (buried in Celeste Cemetary) was Alfred JAckson Moore. > > My Father's Grandfather , Samual P. Moore came with HIS father James Moore from Tennessee. Both were issued original land patents, first in Red River CO. then in Hunt Co. Texas. > > My Father, James Roy Moore married my Mother, Margaret Isebella Glover in Biggar SK. Canada 1936. My sister was born in 1938. Aprox 3 years later they moved BACK to the United States where my father worked for the rest of his life . My Mother became naturlized in 1954. I and my middle sister were born in the U.S. > > My Father was aprox. 65 when I was born in 1955. > My Mother died 1963. Daddy Died in 1965. PRIOR to his death, he received Social Security Benefits. We know that in order to do so, he had to have afidavits from people who knew him, in order to PROVE he was a citizen of the US, as Texas didn't have birth certificates when he was born . > > I have done so much research, yet I cannot find documents the Social Sec. Admin will accept to prove Daddy WAS a citizen, and my sister who needs to apply for her Social Security has been DENIED as she cannot be provena citizen due to Daddy's age and lack of paperwork. > > I would appreciate your help both with idea's and perhaps papers from the Hunt Co. Courthouse. Please send me the fee you would ask for this. > > Sincerely > Marcia Collins > > > > ==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== > Remember: GENEALOGY ONLY ON THE LIST! No > poems, virus warnings, etc. >

Mr. and Mrs. Paris Will Observe 50th Anniversary Mr. and Mrs. John Paris will observe their Golden Wedding Anniversary on Saturday, November 19th. Open house honoring the couple will be held at the home of their daughter, Mrs. Robert H. Woodruff on West Main in Wolfe City from 2:00 to 4:00 PM, Sunday, November 20th. Hosts and hostesses will be the children of the couple, including E. L. Paris of Greenville, Clyde Paris of Arlington, Mrs. Louise Woodruff of Wolfe City, Mrs. Imogene Wallace of Greenville, Mrs. Mearl Allen of Emory, Mrs. Edith Isbell of Denison, Mrs. Arvinia Barnes of Wolfe City, and Mrs. Earleen Foster of Alba. The couple were married at the home of her parents by Sam Jones, Baptist minister of Celeste. Mr. Paris is the son of the late Mr. and Mrs. H. M. Paris of Celeste and Mrs. Paris is the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. A. W. Greenwood of Celeste. Mr. Paris is a retired farmer and the couple have lived most of their lives in Hunt County. Both are members of the Church of Christ. All relatives and friends are invited to call during the entertaining hours. (November 18, 1966, The Celeste Courier)