Hi Mary, There is a Jesse W. Harper born 1824, virginia listed in the 1850 census of Maury County Tennessee with a wife Eliza C. born 1827, tennessee and 3 children. Ann C. Harper born 1844, John T. born 1846, and Sarah E. born 1849. Is this your Jesse W. Harper? Carol Brown [email protected] "I Think That I Shall Never See, A Finished Genealogy"

YES, YES, this is my husband's line. Please note below: Have been searching long time for parents and/or siblings of Jesse W. HARPER. Thanks lots for writing. Mary [email protected] Descendants of Jess W Harper 1 Jess W Harper b: 1822 in VA d: January 03, 1911 in Hunt Co. Tx . +Elizabeth Stoddert Prim b: May 15, 1827 in Tn d: September 21, 1897 in Maury Co.Tn m: December 06, 1843 Father: John Thomas Prim Mother: Celia Carolyn Gantt . 2 Oliver Massey Harper b: February 18, 1852 in Columbia, Tn Maury Co. d: February 06, 1918 in Hunt Co. Tx ..... +Sarah Rebecca Parker b: December 14, 1852 in Giles Co. Tn. d: September 28, 1892 in Scatter Branch, Tx Hunt Co. m: December 24, 1874 in Tn Father: James L Parker Mother: Emily C Miller . *2nd Wife of Oliver Massey Harper: ..... +Mary Archie Bell Ledford b: December 10, 1867 in Barry Co. Mo. d: July 24, 1951 in Longview, Tx m: April 01, 1894 in ? Father: William C Ledford Mother: Margaret Elizabeth Hinds Fact 1: Brd. Dallas, Tx. Dallas Co. . 2 Cecelia Annia Harper b: October 30, 1844 in Maury Co. tn d: August 1901 in Malvern, Ar Fact 1: or Possibly Ann C. . 2 John Thomas Harper b: December 15, 1846 in Maury Co. tn d: April 20, 1922 in Maury Co. tn . 2 Sara Elizabeth Harper b: March 25, 1849 in Maury Co. tn d: January 06, 1930 in Williamson Co. Tn. Fact 1: Wallace Prim stated her nameElizabeth Sarah Harper Fact 2: Info from Wallace Prim May 24 1989 . 2 Nancy J Harper b: November 17, 1854 . 2 William Bors Harper b: September 11, 1858 in Maury Co. tn Fact 1: per Wallace Prim . 2 Nora J. Harper b: October 30, 1865 in Maury Co. tn d: December 09, 1944 in Hunt Co. Tx. ..... +John David Ledford b: August 16, 1870 in Mo. d: February 15, 1938 in Commerce, Tx. Hunt Co. m: August 07, 1905 in Hunt Co. Tx Father: William C Ledford Mother: Margaret Elizabeth Hinds Fact 1: Living Cass Co. Tx 1900&Etta was Mother of 3 children but only 2 living 1900. At 11:59 PM 4/25/2004, [email protected] wrote: >Hi Mary, > There is a Jesse W. Harper born 1824, virginia listed in the 1850 > census >of Maury County Tennessee with a wife Eliza C. born 1827, tennessee and 3 >children. Ann C. Harper born 1844, John T. born 1846, and Sarah E. born >1849. Is >this your Jesse W. Harper? > >Carol Brown >[email protected] >"I Think That I Shall Never See, A Finished Genealogy" > > >==== TXHUNT Mailing List ==== >Support Rootsweb! >http://www.rootsweb.com

>> >>Who were parents/siblings of Jesse W. HARPER b 1822 Va d. 1911 Hunt Co. >>Tx., Married Dec 1843, possibly Maury Co. Tn., Elizabeth Stoddert PRIMM b >>1827 Tn. d. 1897. Wiley V. HARPER may have been Father of Jesse >>HARPER????? Anyone know?? >> >>Jesse W HARPER and Elizabeth PRIMM had a son Oliver Massey HARPER b. 1852 >>Tn. d. 1918 Hunt Co. Tx., md 1874 Sarah "Sallie" REbecca PARKER born 1852 >>Giles Co. Tn. d. 1892 Hunt Co. Tx., dau of J L PARKER and Elizabeeth Emily >>C. MILLER. >>O M HARPER and Sallie PARKER had dau Jessie Stoddert HARPER born 1879 Tn. >>d. 1937 Greenville, Tx., Hunt Co. who md. Hunt co. Tx.,. 1894 Marion >>Edward LEDFORD born 1873 Sebastion Co. Ar., died 1957 Greenville, Tx., >>Hunt Co. >> >>Was Sarah GREEN Mother of Jesse W. HARPER??? Who were siblings of J W >>HARPER?? >> >>Thanks lots. Mary >>[email protected] >>

I found my ancestors listed on the 1880 census of Hunt Co., living in Precinct 6. The census taker was M.L. Ward. Could anyone tell me where this Precinct was located within Hunt county? Thanks Jackie

Here is some maps that show the county changes from year to year for the state. It also has census maps and some other info for the various counties. Its at http://www.genealogyinc.com/maps/uscm.htm It can help a lot of folks trieng to locate what county thier ancestors were in at what date. Very Handy. Brian

In a message dated 03/27/2004 11:58:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: 2 Jewel Geneva Crabb b: February 07, 1898 in Tx d: February 1983 in Tx ..... +William Willie Bill S. Day b: August 12, 1897 d: November 15, 1966 m: Abt. 1911 This is what I have for Willie and Jewel. The DOB for Willie came out of the family Bible that a cousin has. Where did you get your dates? Perhaps yours are more accurate than mine are as I am no longer in contact with anyone from this family. I don't even know if Ruby is still living or not. I assume not, but cannot be certain. I didn't have a marriage date for them, either. Teri Oaks Descendants of Willie Steven Day 1 Willie Steven Day b: 04 Nov 1893 in Texas d: 13 Apr 1965 in Texas .. +Jewel Geneva Crabb b: 07 Feb 1898 ..... 2 Ruby Day

In a message dated 03/27/2004 11:58:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: 2 Jewel Geneva Crabb b: February 07, 1898 in Tx d: February 1983 in Tx ..... +William Willie Bill S. Day b: August 12, 1897 d: Hello, I think that this is my great uncle and his wife, Jewel. I don't know a thing about her family, so it's kind of nice to see this. They had a daughter, Ruby. Do you know anything about them? I remember playing with Ruby when I was a child. Jewel was very protective of her and I can remember going to their house in Dallas. Ruby would often get in the floor and play Barbie dolls with my sister and me. We were just little girls and she was a grown woman. I have bits and pieces of info about Jewel, besides my memories during the visits. Uncle Willie, as I knew him, as my grandmother's brother. Her name was Ruby. I never knew if Ruby was named after her or just a name that Jewel liked. Would love to hear from you, Teri Oaks

Please help, looking for any information on the following individuals: James Madison Mitchell - born TN, died North/East TX (1) Millie or Mildred Ann Owens - born AL, died possibly TX or OK (2) Margaret Smalley - Born ?, died ? Joseph Samuel Mitchell - born 3 Feb 1886, Leonard, Fannin, TX, died OK (1) Dee Ola Harbolt - Born OK, died OK Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free Checked by Symantec-Norton Anti-Virus 2004 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fight Spammers! Please remove all previous addressees before forwarding this material.

Hi Gail, I forgot the death date. It was Aug 21, 2001. The Newspaper was The Wilson County News, located in Floresville, Texas. Carol Brown [email protected] "I Think That I Shall Never See, A Finished Genealogy"

Hi Gail, Could not find ANYTHING on Flora & Riley in Hunt County Texas or Lee County Virginia, but did find the following in Rains County Texas, next door to Hunt. Maybe it will help you. Carol Brown [email protected] "I Think That I Shall Never See, A Finished Genealogy" Lorene Fenter POINT - Funeral services for Lorene Fenter, 87, of Point are at 2 p.m. today at Woosley Baptist Church in Rains County with Rev. Billy Smith officiating. Burial will be in Long Cemetery. Mrs. Fenter died Saturday at Presbyterian Hospital of Greenville. She was born May 20, 1914, in Hopkins County to Riley and Flora McQueen Bibby . She was married to Irwin F. Fenter in Rains County on Oct. 20, 1985. Mrs. Fenter was a homemaker and she was a member of Woosley Baptist Church. Surviving are her husband; sons E. H. Glasscock of Royse City, Tommy Fenter of Tyler and Martin Fenter of Marietta; three sisters, Dorothy Fox of Bonham, Arleta Ellis of Greenville and Christeen Hamilton of Dallas; eight grandchildren and 14 great-grandchildren. She was preceded in death by two brothers, Ernest Bibby and Houston Bibby and two sisters, Aldene Lloyd and Irene Helton. John Peoples, Errin Farley, John Fenner, Jackie Oler, Billy Trimble, Buster Rivers, Jerry Bibby and David Lloyd will serve as pallbearers. Point Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements.

Can anyone help with families below???: What happened to Lula born 1875 MS ?? What happened to Lillian born cir 1890 ?? Anyone have info regarding Gertrude's family, ie: What was her husband's first name?? When/where did he die?? Thnx lots. Mary [email protected] Descendants of James Madison Crabb 1 James Madison Crabb b: September 02, 1852 in Sardis, Tn., Henderson Co. Fact 1: 1870 Living DeSoto Co.Ms . +Sallie E Shepherd b: 1849 d: 1887 in Flora, Ms.Madison Co. m: April 23, 1874 in Madison Co. Ms. . 2 Lula Crabb b: 1875 in Madison Co. Ms . 2 Gertrude Crabb b: 1878 d: 1946 in Lorraine, Tx., Mitchell Co. ..... +? Murphy d: in Lorraine, Tx., Mitchell Co. m: Abt. 1891 . 2 Benjamin Crabb b: 1880 in Ms d: January 1964 in Tx *2nd Wife of James Madison Crabb: . +Margaret L. Gunn b: January 28, 1859 in Flora, Ms., Madison d: Bef. 1892 m: July 22, 1887 in ? Father: Lawson Gunn Mother: Susan Jane Wooten . 2 Louie Louis Crabb b: Abt. 1888 d: Bef. July 1998 in Ft Worth, Tx. Tarrant Co. . 2 Lillian Crabb b: Abt. 1890 d: Bef. 1920 . 2 Lee Roy Crabb b: Abt. 1891 d: Bef. 1920 *3rd Wife of James Madison Crabb: . +Rytha Lenora Weems b: May 1871 in Ga. d: 1954 in Leonard, Tx. m: Bet. 1892 - 1893 . 2 Charlie Crabb b: Abt. 1895 d: Bef. July 1998 . 2 Melvin Coley Crabb b: December 15, 1896 in Greenville, Tx., Hunt Co. d: November 20, 1965 in Dallas, Tx., Dallas Co. Fact 1: November 22, 1965 Restland Cem.Dallas,Tx. ..... +Mamie Anna Gunnels b: August 23, 1891 in Jacogia, Tx., Hunt Co. d: January 17, 1977 in Commerce, Tx Hunt Co. m: October 28, 1927 in Rockwall, Tx.,Rockwall Co. Father: Pleasant Wiseman Gunnels Mother: Susan Anna Tatum Fact 1: January 19, 1977 brd.Sonora Cem.inFairlie,Hunt Co.Tx. . 2 Albert Walter Crabb b: September 16, 1899 in Greenville, Tx., Hunt Co.. d: April 1969 in Irving, Tx., Dallas Co. ..... +Era Mae Jones d: in Irving, Tx., Dallas Co. m: Unknown . 2 Jewel Geneva Crabb b: February 07, 1898 in Tx d: February 1983 in Tx ..... +William Willie Bill S. Day b: August 12, 1897 d: November 15, 1966 m: Abt. 1911 . 2 Thelma Crabb b: June 15, 1906 in MS d: January 27, 1990 ..... +Edward Daniel Cross b: January 02, 1904 d: December 25, 1976 m: Abt. 1927 in Tx . 2 Barney Presley Crabb b: March 04, 1909 d: March 01, 1993 in Dallas, Tx., Dallas Co. ..... +Beatrice Myatt b: July 27, 1912 in Howe, Tx. m: 1929 in Dallas, Tx., Dallas Co. . 2 Evelyn Crabb b: June 15, 1912 in Quinlan, Tx., Hunt Co. d: November 11, 1997 in Dallas, Tx., Dallas co. ..... +Gordon D. Hilty b: April 12, 1920 d: May 1966 in Dallas, Tx., Dallas co. m: Abt. 1942 . 2 Raymond Crabb b: October 18, 1913 d: December 21, 1989 in Mesquite, Tx., Dallas Co. . 2 Cora Elizabeth Crabb b: September 23, 1915 in Ms. d: March 15, 2001 in Dallas, Tx., Dallas Co. ..... +Charles Ray Hale b: April 27, 1896 d: June 1981 in Irving, Tx., Dallas co. m: Abt. 1935

In trying to connect some of my McQueen relatives I am researching my g grandmother's sister Flora? McQueen. According to family my g grandmother Caledonia "Callie" McQueen Baumgardner had twin sisters who were born in December 1889 in (Lee) Virginia. Their names were Dora & Flora?. I was told that Flora married Riley Bibby. In 1930 (Hunt) VA, Precinct 4, hh 147/149 there is a family with Riley D. Bibby as head of household. He is 49 from MS. His wife is listed as Laura S. age 40, from VA! They have 9 children also! Since Dora & Flora had a step sister named Flora Shepard I am wondering if someone got confused about Flora McQueens name and that it was actually Laura. Do you know anything about these Bibby's or McQueens? Baumgardners & related families from (Lee) VA are also of interest! I look forward to hearing from you! Thanks, Gail Lies [email protected]

Hi-- I am sending a partial list and will try to send the others tomorrow. Thank all of you that sent me a URL link for birth/death/marriage links. I had a lot of requests if someone sent it to me, they would like it also. Below are the links I received and to make sure I don't forget someone I am sending to all the lists I am on and where I posted the question. All the lists I am on are great!!!! Thank each and every one of you. Janice/TX ------------------------------------------------------- http://vitalrec.com ------------------------------------ You can purchase the entire package of 11 cds at the following site: http://tvrview.com/. I have them and the genealogy room has them and they are great. ----------------------------- I haven't been able to make the web site you referred to work in quite a while, but it is as follows: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~czech/birthindex.html ------------------------------------ The Texas Department of Health compiled birth, death, marriage and divorce records for some years. They put the files on a website. They received a lot of flack from privacy advocates and pulled the files. However, before that was down they were downloaded by members of the USGenWeb Texas Archives project. The files were by year. They were broke down into counties by volunteers and posted in the Archives. > Here is the county index for the Texas Archives. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txcounties.htm > Most counties also have search engines where you can search for specific surnames. > -------------------------------------- click here: Texas Marriages Search Engine 1966-2002 > > http://www.genlookups.com/texas_marriages/ > > Scroll down to "Older Texas Marriages Search" and put in a name. A whole > bunch comes up and they aren't all in Texas. ---------------------------- http://www.allvitalrecords.com/index.asp?tag=google ---------------------------------------- Here is the county index for the Texas Archives. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txcounties.htm Most counties also have search engines where you can search for specific surnames. ----------------------------------------- This link will help to search. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txsearch.html ------------------------------------------------------try Courthouse Direct.com There you can get info on divorce & marriage records for all states -------------------------------------- www.vitalrec.com Choose or click state&territories, then the state, then the county .....should find info on Vital records (such as Alabama vital records) and or if you click right below that on county offices, you find USgenwebs site for any county within the chosen state. ---------------------------------------------------------- http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/ ---------------------------------------------- All of the TX Birth/Death/Marriage records are online at the archives. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm -------------------------------------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txsearch.html#county Rootsweb birth, death, marriage and other records by the county or Texas ------------------------------------------------------------------ You can find vital records at the bottom of most TXGenWeb Archives. They list birth, death, marriage and divorce records. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txcounties.htm --------------------------------------- http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi ------------------------------------------ http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ when you get to the state look at the bottom for the start search.. it usually displays an ad for net detective so look below that ------------------------------------ The Vitalsearch Company Worldwide, Inc. has records (deaths, births, marriages, divorces, county data) for many states: http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ RootsWeb Database Index includes SSDI and Death Records for 4 states: http://searches.rootsweb.com/ --------------------------------- If tears could build a stairway... And memories a lane... I'd walk right up to Heaven... And bring you home again. In memory of my husband: 1940-2003

I need the Death Certificates for: Francis Marion Ball, died 9 nov 1883, supposedly died in McKinney but buried inEast Mount Cemetery Greenville. No Death recorde in McKinney. Jane Finley Pettigrew Ball, died 2-Oct 1889, In Mckinney but buried in East Mount Cemetery Greenville. These two are related to the Balls who were Parents and Grandparents of George Washington. Max hardesty

Hi Listmates, Don't get angry with me, but I think you all should know, the states of California and Texas demanded that Rootsweb/Ancestry remove the information you seek, because of Identity Theft fears. Yes it is still on the web, but please don't post the site or pass it around, because if the states finds out it's still there, they will have it shut down again, probably peremnantly this time. I as well as others really need this information and do not want to lose it again. Use it for your personal use, but PLEASE DO NOT PASS IT AROUND on messages boards. Thanks Carol Brown [email protected] "I Think That I Shall Never See, A Finished Genealogy"

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txsearch.html#county at this url select the county you want and put in the surname you are seeking...I add a given name at times to cut down on the hits.

The info formerly on Rootsweb can now be found at: http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/tx/tx_.htm It is more convenient than the ASCII files, but they want money for the births index and maybe for the rest of it as well. At 05:37 PM 3/23/04 -0600, you wrote: >Sorry for double and triple post in case you are on most of the sites I am >on. > >About 6 weeks ago someone sent an URL/Link in to access the >birth/death/marriage records that use to be on the web but no longer are. > >I believe someone had downloaded it and put it on a private site. > >If anyone has this URL would greatly appreciate it be sent to me or posted >to list for others also. > >It may have only been the Texas b/d/m records > >TIA >Janice >[email protected] >

I don't have this,but would LOVE to have it if anyone answers your post. IN GOD WE TRUST All others WILL pay

thanks Dale from Ar-sharp list-this was to long to include in my one email of links so am forwarding for others to use. Thank all of you for coming to my rescue :) Janice Here's the site with all the Texas records: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/Texas/ Kind of funny RootsWeb yanked them, but they're still on a RootsWeb site. Yes, it says cemetery records, but when you enter the county (or "all counties") you can enter the surname(s) plus any other keywords such as first name(s), year, "births," "deaths," "marriages," "divorces," "obits," or "cemetery." Here are some sites I like to explore when filling in dates, etc. on the more contemporary generations in my tree or when just being nosy! All of these will provide more detailed information for a fee (usually a hefty fee), but the searches are free and can provide a wealth of information. Often you have to combine the information from two or three different ones to get all the puzzle pieces, but it doesn't take long to learn the strengths and weaknesses of each. This information comes from public records and includes data on deceased individuals, too. 1. USSearch http://www.ussearch.com Often includes middle names and women's maiden names. Don't worry about knowing the right age for the person(s) on this one. Put in anything over 20 and it'll be happy. 2. InteliUS http://find.intelius.com What I really like about this one is that the search results often group everyone in the same household together (if the Mrs. and adult children have done anything to generate a public record). Check out the advanced search option, and if you're nosing around in Kentucky or Texas, they have marriage and divorce records for those states, too. 3. KnowX http://www.knowx.com This one includes marriage and divorce records for Florida, Nevada, Texas, and the SSDI (although RootsWeb's version is better). 4. PeopleData http://www.people-data.com Results list often gives month and year of birth, not just age. 5. Public Record Finder http://www.publicrecordfinder.com More state-level databases. You can get a free guest pass to search many databases including the CA birth index. Unless you pay for a "Premium Membership" you can't search by first name which is okay unless you're looking for a record for someone with a common last name. You'll still get all the results, but you have to go through the whole result list from A to Z. 6. Search Systems http://www.searchsystems.net Similar to #5. Find out if your doctor has been disciplined by the medical board! 7. AnyBirthday.com http://anybirthday.com Birthdates only. Type in a full or partial first name and last name. Narrow it down with a full or partial zip code if desired. (Use with #8 if needed.) 8. USPS Zip Code Finder http://www.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.htm Look up zip code for any location. Also has reverse locator which is useful with #7. 9. Area Code Maps http://www.nanpa.com/number_resource_info/area_code_maps.html Good detailed area code maps for every state. Even shows the ones about to be added. 10. MapQuest http://www.mapquest.com Good street level maps with actual satellite shots. See what your house looks like from orbit!

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