James, and all... I have heard that ftm does something like this... I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, when it is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that you can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain of salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree maker homepage. As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way that I can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, for others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave found many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they find me from what I have put out there on the web. I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every bit of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... then I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my hard work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I have gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, from ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I have that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I have tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and direct descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly publish incorrect data... So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. When you put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what you have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it out there. Barb James McIlroy wrote: > Barbara and ALL: > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether in > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that material > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously inflated > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this issue > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, if > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off of it, > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites to > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you put out > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. You've > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your site! > > Congratulations! > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When you > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > Barbara > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and > Oceola > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants of > these > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > pictures, > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > <A > HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html"> > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family of > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Hello Barbara, I thought your response - your explanation - of the way many or most of us "do" genealogy was very good. I echo your thoughts. RON I have heard that ftm does something like this...I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, when it is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that you can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain of salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree maker homepage. As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way that I can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, for others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave found many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they find me from what I have put out there on the web. I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every bit of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... then I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my hard work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I have gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, from ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I have that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I have tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and direct descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly publish incorrect data... So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. When you put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what you have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it out there. Barb

It's the rookie that falls into the trap. After getting bit a few times by their software you learn. Maybe other will see this and not be suckered into wasting money. Rich Brannan -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Pike [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) James, and all... I have heard that ftm does something like this... I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, when it is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that you can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain of salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree maker homepage. As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way that I can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, for others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave found many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they find me from what I have put out there on the web. I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every bit of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... then I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my hard work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I have gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, from ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I have that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I have tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and direct descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly publish incorrect data... So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. When you put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what you have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it out there. Barb James McIlroy wrote: > Barbara and ALL: > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether in > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that material > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously inflated > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this issue > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, if > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off of it, > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites to > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you put out > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. You've > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your site! > > Congratulations! > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When you > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > Barbara > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and > Oceola > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants of > these > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > pictures, > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > <A > HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html"> > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family of > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com