Sorry about that, the last email wasn't meant for list. I wasn't watching the return address! and the cancel button doesn't work ever! on Netscape!! Deb :)

Oh now that is sad, and for you to see that must have been horrible !!! drunken kids probably! they will get their's one day!!! sorry it has upset you alot, you don't need that! *HUGS* cathy shelley wrote: > I went to the Old Woodbury Cemetery over the weekend to do some lookups > for people and the horror I found really leaves me digusted and very > upset!!!!! Since I was last there in April there has been 2 to 3 dozen > stones damaged or distroyed!!!! There are now names of relatives that will > never be known because their stones have been totally distroyed. This > cemetery is on a paved road and there is a house right next door, but no one > seems to care what happens to it!!!!!! People always worry about the New > Woodbury Cemetery, but I think it is about time they start worrying about > the Old one. At the rate it is being destroyed I give it 5 years before all > the stones are gone!!!!!!!! > Cathy > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

The monument that Jackie is talking about was over 6 feet tall and had to weigh a ton. It was still in good condition other than someone took a pickup in there and knocked it over. It jsut needed to be put back upright, but instead it disappeared. Cathy From: "Kissick" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Old Woodbury Cemetery Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:13:49 -0800 I too can vouch for some of the vandalizm at the Old Woodbury Cemetery. Last April when I was visiting there Cathy and I went there and discovered a huge upright monument type stone was missing. It had been laying down. It took a lot of effort to remove the stone. I believe it may have been the type the Woodmen used. I do not know who the oldest stone belongs to there, but isn't there something in Texas about a cemetery being so old it can apply for historic recognition and possibly the County will put a fence up. I would think the people that have relatives there would try to get somekind of fence erected that could be locked if necessary. I live 1200+ miles from there but would be willing to lend my support. Jackie Shelley Kissick Brawley, CA ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Could the crack have been made by all the rain we received in January? I live in Navarro CO next door, :) and we had over 5 inches of rain...or could it have been caused by a sun crack from last summer? Surely to God no one is digging up the graves..... How spooky..gives me chills to think about it... I have a police scanner and hear all the time for the police to check out cemeteries in Navarro CO all times of the day and night.. In Ennis they lock the gates at 10 p.m. every night.... A lot of "sick" people on the loose....I know it isn't safe to go and visit your loved ones graves by yourself....to many "live" ones creeping about to harm you. IMO Janice/TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "the cottens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Cemetery Horror!!!!! > Not only destroyed tombstones, but a HUGE crack in the ground, > approximately 3-4 feet deep. Scary! > > Karen (Brooks) Cotten > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

Cemetery desecration and vandalism is rampant all over Texas!!! Every single time I return to a family cemetery, there are new headstones/markers broken or gone completely. There are at least 25 markers in various family cemeteries that were victimized by vandals-all the more reason you should photograph every single one in your family as well as a distance shot to show where the marker is/was!!!! I have been told that the missing markers are used as steps in muddy pasture land - grrrrrrr! Something has got to be done to preserve our old cemeteries!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "cathy shelley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Cemetery Horror!!!!! > I went to the Old Woodbury Cemetery over the weekend to do some lookups > for people and the horror I found really leaves me digusted and very > upset!!!!! Since I was last there in April there has been 2 to 3 dozen > stones damaged or distroyed!!!! There are now names of relatives that will > never be known because their stones have been totally distroyed. This > cemetery is on a paved road and there is a house right next door, but no one > seems to care what happens to it!!!!!! People always worry about the New > Woodbury Cemetery, but I think it is about time they start worrying about > the Old one. At the rate it is being destroyed I give it 5 years before all > the stones are gone!!!!!!!! > Cathy > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

I too can vouch for some of the vandalizm at the Old Woodbury Cemetery. Last April when I was visiting there Cathy and I went there and discovered a huge upright monument type stone was missing. It had been laying down. It took a lot of effort to remove the stone. I believe it may have been the type the Woodmen used. I do not know who the oldest stone belongs to there, but isn't there something in Texas about a cemetery being so old it can apply for historic recognition and possibly the County will put a fence up. I would think the people that have relatives there would try to get somekind of fence erected that could be locked if necessary. I live 1200+ miles from there but would be willing to lend my support. Jackie Shelley Kissick Brawley, CA

Hi Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. More than likely if your relatives were buried on their property the Corp didn't know about them and they probably were never taken up and may never be found. I have found that not all bodies were removed from the Cemeteries because the men digging them up were scared and they only took the head stones and left the bodies. I have been told a lot of stories about this and i'm not sure how much is true, but all agree that not all bodies were moved. Cathy From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Whitney Dam Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:16:05 EST My ancestor owned property in the area of Whitney Lake; he died in 1836 and one of his daughters (age 5 in 1835) died shortly thereafter. I suspect they were buried on the property, most of which is now under the lake. I've checked cemetery lists, but they do not appear on the lists. I'm wondering, however, if a map exists showing where burial sites were before the bodies were moved. I'm thinking I might be able to identify currently unidentifed graves in the new cemeteries based upon where the graves were before they were moved. Anyone know of such a map? I've checked with the Corps of Engineers, but they couldn't help. ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Karen, I didn't see any big crack any where and I was all over the cemetery. Is those your Brooks in the wrought iron fence near the front of the Cemetery? If it is the back old stone is only being held up by the fence that it is resting on. Just thought I would let you know. Cathy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Posted on: Hill County Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/HillObits/82 Surname: Gallemore, Martin, Hartzog, Pickle, McBride, Sanders ------------------------- ANOTHER PIONEER CITIZEN PASSES AWAY. HILLSBORA MIRROE After an illness of about fifteen days, caused by a complication of diseases of the stomach and kidneys, the life sparks passed from the body of Mrs. Martha E. Martin yesterday afternoon at 4:45 o'clock at the home of her son, Wm. H. Martin, 314 Second St. The deceased, who was born in Georgia on December 6, 1846,* was formerly a resident of Hillsboro, but for the past few years has been a resident of Athens, her home for many years before coming to Hillsboro to reside, and come home about five weeks ago on a visit to her sons and daughter, who reside in this city. Mrs. Martin was a daughter of Mr. & Mrs. J. Gallemore, who were among the early settlers in what is now known as the Rural Shade community in Navarro county, coming here in 1857, at which place she was wedded to Major Wm. H. Martin in 1867, and settled at Athens, where they resided until 1892, when they moved to Hillsboro, remaining here until Mr. Martin's death which occured on Feb. 5, 1898, he having been one of the most prominent citizens of the Lone Star State, having served with distinction as Major of the 4th. Texas Brigade under command of General Hood throughout the civil war, and succeeded John G. Reagan as congressman from the then second district upon the election of the latter to the United States Senate, serving his constituents in that capacity through out several terms. Mrs. Martin early in life confessed her Savior, being at the time of her demise a consecrated member of the First Baptist Church at Athens, and one of the best beloved women in the communites in which she had resided from time to time. She was the mother of seven children, four daughters and three sons, all of whom survive her, these children being Mrs. J. O. Hartzog of Port Lavaca, Charlotte Pickle of Athens, Mrs. William McBride of Greenville, Mrs. Pattie Sanders, Mr. Robert B. Martin, Mr. Wm. H. Martin and Mr. John G. Martin, the latter four residing in this city. The funeral services will take place from the residents of Mr. Wm. H. Martin, 314 Second St., at 2:30 o'clock this afternoon, conducted by Rev. M. T. Andrews, interment taking place in the old cemetary beside the remains of her departed husband, Williams & Leatherwood having charge of the funeral arrangements. The sorrowing family have the sincere sympathy of all in their greatest hour of bereavement. * correction: She was born June 22, 1846 (PMP)

Posted on: Hill County Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/HillObits/81 Surname: Gallemore, Martin, Hartzog, Pickle, McBride, Sanders ------------------------- This clipping did not have a date on it, but she died April 01, 1914. (PMP) ANOTHER PIONEER CITIZEN PASSES AWAY. HILLSBORA MIRROE After an illness of about fifteen days, caused by a complication of diseases of the stomach and kidneys, the life sparks passed from the body of Mrs. Martha E. Martin yesterday afternoon at 4:45 o'clock at the home of her son, Wm. H. Martin, 314 Second St. The deceased, who was born in Georgia on December 6, 1846,* was formerly a resident of Hillsboro, but for the past few years has been a resident of Athens, her home for many years before coming to Hillsboro to reside, and come home about five weeks ago on a visit to her sons and daughter, who reside in this city. Mrs. Martin was a daughter of Mr. & Mrs. J. Gallemore, who were among the early settlers in what is now known as the Rural Shade community in Navarro county, coming here in 1857, at which place she was wedded to Major Wm. H. Martin in 1867, and settled at Athens, where they resided until 1892, when they moved to Hillsboro, remaining here until Mr. Martin's death which occured on Feb. 5, 1898, he having been one of the most prominent citizens of the Lone Star State, having served with distinction as Major of the 4th. Texas Brigade under command of General Hood throughout the civil war, and succeeded John G. Reagan as congressman from the then second district upon the election of the latter to the United States Senate, serving his constituents in that capacity through out several terms. Mrs. Martin early in life confessed her Savior, being at the time of her demise a consecrated member of the First Baptist Church at Athens, and one of the best beloved women in the communites in which she had resided from time to time. She was the mother of seven children, four daughters and three sons, all of whom survive her, these children being Mrs. J. O. Hartzog of Port Lavaca, Charlotte Pickle of Athens, Mrs. William McBride of Greenville, Mrs. Pattie Sanders, Mr. Robert B. Martin, Mr. Wm. H. Martin and Mr. John G. Martin, the latter four residing in this city. The funeral services will take place from the residents of Mr. Wm. H. Martin, 314 Second St., at 2:30 o'clock this afternoon, conducted by Rev. M. T. Andrews, interment taking place in the old cemetary beside the remains of her departed husband, Williams & Leatherwood having charge of the funeral arrangements. The sorrowing family have the sincere sympathy of all in their greatest hour of bereavement. * correction: She was born June 22, 1846 (PMP)

Posted on: Hill County Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/HillObits/79 Surname: Martin, Gallemore ------------------------- Athens Weekley Review Athens, Texas, February 11, 1898 Tribute to Hon. W. H. Martin At his home, on his farm in Hill county, near Hillsboro, in the 76th year of his eventful life, on Saturday, Feb. 5, 1898, the brave spirit of the loved and honored Wm. Harrison Martin to the country known as Howdy Martin, took its flight from the scenes of life to the Courts above. Major Martin was the son of Robert Martin and Charlotte Martin, of Alabama, and the grandson of Benjamin Harrison on his mothers side. Benjamin Harrison was a member of the convention that framed the Constitution of the State of Georgia, and was a major of great renown in the Revolutionary War. Major Martin was born in Twiggs county, Georgia, Sept. 2, 1822; and in 1835, with his fathers family removed to to Alabama living in that state until he attained manhood, when he moved to the State of Texas, settling in Henderson county in the Spring of 1851, here the most useful and eventful part of his life was passed, removing to Hill County in 1893. He married Miss Martha E. Gallemore of Navarro County Feb. 12, 1867. As a soldier and officer, Major Martin served during the entire war in the Confederate service, beginning his services as Captain of Company K. of the 4th Texas Regiment, Hood's original regiment and at the time of surrender was Lieut. Col. of said regiment. His only and younger brother was Robert Martin and in his company. Robert Martin was killed in Tenn. in battle, fighting by the side of Col. W.H. Martin. He fought in the battles of Elkhorn Landing, Seven Pines, seven days before Richmond. Second battle of Manassas, Sharpsburg, Gettysburg, Chickamauga. The Wilderness, and all other battles from that time to the end of the war, surrendering with Lee. After the surrender at Appomattox he returned to Henderson county, and began anew his life as a citizen, and engaged again in the practice of his profession, the law, living a quiet life with his family until in 1872, during the 4 days election under the administration of Mr. E.J. Davis, he was elected by his distric to administer the office of Dist. Atty., in the Counties of Kaufman, Henderson, Smith and Anderson, after filling this office with marked ability for two terms, he again retired to private life, and devoted himself to farming pursuits, until he was elected in 1887 to fill the unexpired term in the Congress of United States, made vacant by the election of the Hon. John H. Reagan, of whom Maj. Martin was a life long friend, to a seat in the United States, Senate, where he served his people with much credit and ability in the 50 and 51 Congress. This was not his first Legislative experience, as he was a very able and prominent member of the Senate of Texas a number of years before the war. After the retirement of Major Martin from Congress, he moved with his family to Hill Co. where he lived until his death. He leaves surviving him his wife and seven children, three of whom are happily married, the balance remaining on the homestead with the mother. Jno. S. Jones.

Not only destroyed tombstones, but a HUGE crack in the ground, approximately 3-4 feet deep. Scary! Karen (Brooks) Cotten ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Cathy, this is so sad. Has this cemetery ever been canvased. I think one of our grandmother may have been buried there. What date did the new Woodbury Cemetery began to be used. Joyce cathy shelley wrote: > I went to the Old Woodbury Cemetery over the weekend to do some lookups > for people and the horror I found really leaves me digusted and very > upset!!!!! Since I was last there in April there has been 2 to 3 dozen > stones damaged or distroyed!!!! There are now names of relatives that will > never be known because their stones have been totally distroyed. This > cemetery is on a paved road and there is a house right next door, but no one > seems to care what happens to it!!!!!! People always worry about the New > Woodbury Cemetery, but I think it is about time they start worrying about > the Old one. At the rate it is being destroyed I give it 5 years before all > the stones are gone!!!!!!!! > Cathy > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Hi Sonya, If you go to Rootswebs home page and go to Cemetery Project and then to Hill County you will find Blum Cemetery listed. Cathy From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: James Andrew Wheeler Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:21:34 EST I would appreciate any info on James Andrew Wheeler b Sept 10 1856 d ? and wife Epsie P. Hammond Wheeler b abt 1855 d ?. They are buried in the Blum cemetery. They had two boys Charles and Joseph in the late 1870s. They moved to Hill co. in the late 1880s from Georgia. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank You! Sonya in Colorado ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

From: "Jackie Morgan" <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> To: "Texahoma Listserver \(E-mail\)" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> CC: "Bryan Listserver \(E-mail\)" <[email protected]> Subject: {not a subscriber} Dan BRYAN and Josephine BRYAN in Hillsboro, Texas in 1942/3 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:12:53 -0800 I am trying to locate someone with information on Dan BRYAN and Josephine BRYAN. I believe that they lived in Hillsboro. I believe that they are the children of James R. BRYAN and Martha NORWOOD BRYAN. Probably both were born in Alabama or Georgia. I am related to their 1/2 brother. Jackie Morgan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I went to the Old Woodbury Cemetery over the weekend to do some lookups for people and the horror I found really leaves me digusted and very upset!!!!! Since I was last there in April there has been 2 to 3 dozen stones damaged or distroyed!!!! There are now names of relatives that will never be known because their stones have been totally distroyed. This cemetery is on a paved road and there is a house right next door, but no one seems to care what happens to it!!!!!! People always worry about the New Woodbury Cemetery, but I think it is about time they start worrying about the Old one. At the rate it is being destroyed I give it 5 years before all the stones are gone!!!!!!!! Cathy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Who was looking for Andrew Bishop's grave. Contact me off list I found his grave over the weekend. Cathy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I am trying to find a death date and cemetery where Benton Matthews was buried. He was born in Hill County and he was in the 1880 census with his family. He died in 1818 according to some family histories that I have seen. He married Ida Jagger in Hill County. I would appreciate any information on Benton Matthews. Thanks, Ruth YOungblood

In a message dated 2/2/01 12:24:53 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: DAWSON, BALDWIN, WEBB, PETERS > Date: 2/2/01 12:24:53 AM Central Standard Time > From: [email protected] (Judi Dawson Love) > Sender: [email protected] > Reply-to: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > > > Posted on: Hill County Queries > Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Tx/Hill/1082 > > Surname: DAWSON, BALDWIN, WEBB, PETERS > ------------------------- > > > Seeking info about my gggrandparents, Jonathan/John DAWSON & Mary Ann > "Polly" > (WEBB). They were married in MS in 1837, moved to Bell Co. TX before 1870, > and were still there on 1880 Census. > > The 1900 Hill Co. TX Census lists Polly DAWSON as a widow living with her > youngest daughter, Rosa/or Rose (DAWSON) PETERS and her three children. > 1. James THOMAS (by her first husband). 2. John PETERS, and 3. Mary PETERS, > both by second husband. Rosa is also a widow. Did John DAWSON die in Hill > Co. TX? > > John & Polly DAWSON's son (my ggrandfather) Samuel John DAWSON, who married > Nancy Jane BALDWIN, moved to Johnson Co. TX, so I don't know if they lived > in Hill Co. or not, but Polly could very well be buried in Hill Co. > > My own grandparents, John Anderson DAWSON and Susan Frances RUSSELL settled > in Johnson Co where my own father was born. If anyone is researching these > lines, or has any info or possible leads for me, I would appreciate hearing > from you. Thanks, Judi > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <[email protected]> > Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) > by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:24:53 > -0500 > Received: from lists7.rootsweb.com (lists7.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.56]) by > rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:24:29 -0500 > Received: (from [email protected]) > by lists7.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f126KL431313; > Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:20:21 -0800 > Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:20:21 -0800 > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Feb 1 22:20:20 2001 > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:23:35 -0800 > Message-Id: <[email protected]> > X-Authentication-Warning: cgi.rootsweb.com: nobody set sender to > [email protected] using -f > Old-To: [email protected] > From: Judi Dawson Love <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Subject: DAWSON, BALDWIN, WEBB, PETERS > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/3434 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > > I am interested in the Webbs because I believe Webb was the original surname of my ggrandfather's second wife. His name was Patrick Welch and he married a Roxie Bennett(nee Webb?) around 1910 0r 1912 in Hill County. Roxie, who may have been a Webb or married to one, was from Mississipi according to the 1920 census when she was listed as the wife of Patrick Welch and the mother of Katie Welch. In the obituary of Katie Welch Tincher, she used the surname Webb as Katie Webb Tincher, daughter of Pat Welch and Roxie Welch. Any info on any of this will be much appreciated. Sincerely, Jerome Welch

Posted on: Hill County Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Hill/1084 Surname: Steadman ------------------------- Seeking information on the family of John Steadman listed on the 1860 census of Hill County, Texas. John age 60 b. NC, Elizabeth 44 b. Geo., Mary 18 b. Geo., John Jr. 20 b. Geo., Nancy 15 b. Geo., George 13 b. Geo., Anderson 11 b. Geo., Vashti (f)5 b. Geo. and Jonathan age 3 b. Texas. John (the elder) and his wife Elizabeth are said to be buried at the headwaters of the Navasota River. Any help appreciated.