I want more info. on what happened to Mary Brooks Cunningham after she divorced Dan Cunningham in 1913. The boy, Joseph Marion, went to his dad and the girls, Elsie and Lucretia, went to their mom. Joseph ended up in California. I have nothing on the girls. They later in life ended up with a half-brother Morris Cunningham, whose mother was Dan's 2nd wife Beulah Pledger. I figured is some Brooks' are out there she may be a distant aunt or cousin. Just curious. Teresa Parrish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee McPeek" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Roll Call > I am looking for Martin's or Black's from the Blum area. > > Renee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cathy shelley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:24 PM > Subject: Roll Call > > > > Hi Everyone, > > It is time for a roll call. We have a lot of new members on the list so > > we need to get our families out there. I am looking for Shelley's, > Wood's, > > Stansberry's and many more associated with the Shelley Family. > > > > > > > > Cathy Shelley > > List Manager > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

i'm looking for any of these folks in hill county, circa 1870-1910: FRASIER MIDDLETON GANNAWAY MATTHEWS MERCHANT CLINKSCALES thanks, ken titt, victoria, tx

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Searching for ancestors/descendants of: BENNETT --- John F. and John Wesley. SUDDUTH --- George E. ROSS --- Homer Andrew HENDERSON --- John English All migrated to Hill County in the later 1800's. Thanks, Jon Bennett

Hi, I am hoping to find any descendants of JONATHAN NEWBY and DOROTHEA DEBERRY NEWBY, Jonathan was murdered by a slave and the slave in turn was murdered by Jonathan's son, John Henry William Newby. Anyone ever hear this story? I would like to find someone in Hill County who might be able to find details about this and a possible trial for JHW, he was later pardoned by Sam Houston. Help please, I will be very happy to pay for any help that anyone can furnish. Thanks, Sug Fitzner Also would like to contact any of the descendants of the children in this family. Nancy Jane married Barthenies ? Stevens Hannah Malissa married Jeremiah V. Swinney Elizabeth Ann Married Christopher Wood Mary Ann married James Price Susan A married John A Cauthers Martha Margaret married Pascal H. Rice Louisa married Joseph Arrington Isabella married Newton Fiddler

I am looking for Martin's or Black's from the Blum area. Renee ----- Original Message ----- From: "cathy shelley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: Roll Call > Hi Everyone, > It is time for a roll call. We have a lot of new members on the list so > we need to get our families out there. I am looking for Shelley's, Wood's, > Stansberry's and many more associated with the Shelley Family. > > > > Cathy Shelley > List Manager > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi, I am fairly new, though I did post my Leatherwood line in the beginning. I am looking for two men that have had me stumped for a LONG time: Joseph Stilwell - my ggrandfather who may have lived in late life in/near Itasca where is daughter, Inez stilwell Leatherwood lived w/ her spouse, Charles Gee and two girl children. I am looking for his birth place. Jesse Leatherwood who came to TX, Hill Cty, I think w/ his children and grandchildren. One of which was Charles Gee (grandchild of Jesse). I am also looking for his birth place. I have corresponded w/ several cousins, also gggrandchildren of Jesse L. who also have been stuck w/o finding a definite birthplace and names of parents. Thanks for any help. I'll be glad to share whatever I can as well. Nancy K

Hi everyone. This is my first time to list anything. Need any info on DAWSON, WEBB, and BALDWIN lines, along with collateral lines of PETERS, THOMAS, and STROUP. I will follow-up on all leads. Thanks, Judi Dawson Love -----Original Message----- From: @swstaty.com <@swstaty.com> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Roll Call >Hi all, >I'm looking for any HARVICKs, MCCURRYs,& GARYs that may have "spilled over" >from Bosque County. >Thank You, >Bettie <>< >-- >God Answers Knee-mail!!! >Viva La Bosque--Beautiful Bosque Co., TX >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbosqu2/ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gawalton/ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~garichmo/ >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/ >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/wood/ >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/harvick/ >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/mccurry/ >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/pevehouse/ > >> It is time for a roll call. We have a lot of new members on the list so >> we need to get our families out there. I am looking for Shelley's, Wood's, > > >==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== >Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html >Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 >Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Hi all, I'm looking for any HARVICKs, MCCURRYs,& GARYs that may have "spilled over" from Bosque County. Thank You, Bettie <>< -- God Answers Knee-mail!!! Viva La Bosque--Beautiful Bosque Co., TX http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbosqu2/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~gawalton/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~garichmo/ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/wood/ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/harvick/ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/mccurry/ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gary/pevehouse/ > It is time for a roll call. We have a lot of new members on the list so > we need to get our families out there. I am looking for Shelley's, Wood's,

Hi Everyone, It is time for a roll call. We have a lot of new members on the list so we need to get our families out there. I am looking for Shelley's, Wood's, Stansberry's and many more associated with the Shelley Family. Cathy Shelley List Manager _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hello everyone, I am searching Shelley, Lane, Farrar, Kissick, Williams, Bennett, Perkins etc. Need all the help I can get, will share in kind. Jackie Kissick

I have a Robert J Stevens m/ Eliza Ann Beaty m/Feb 24 1879. Is this anyone's line? I can't find a trace of them, I also have their marriage certificate thanks Lisa ps great job on the website. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Parrish" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > My great-great-grandpa marr. twice. 9 kids with the first, 10 with the > second, which is my line. I hunted for yrs for desc. of the 9 and it took > getting a computer and whaddayknow! 2 wrote me!! Teresa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Harper" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > > I agree with you on this. I also have had many contacts from > > having my file on worldconnect, and am gaining in knowledge almost > > daily from these contacts. > > Kay > > > > > > >From: Barbara Pike <[email protected]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > >Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:38:12 -0500 > > > > > >James, and all... > > > > > >I have heard that ftm does something like this... > > > > > >I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, > > >when it > > >is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that > > >you > > >can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. > > > > > >Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a > grain > > >of > > >salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. > > > > > >I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree > > >maker > > >homepage. > > > > > >As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way > > >that I > > >can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, > > >for > > >others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave > > >found > > >many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they > > >find > > >me from what I have put out there on the web. > > > > > >I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented > every > > >bit > > >of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and > libraries.... > > >then > > >I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of > my > > >hard > > >work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, > I > > >have > > >gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message > forums, > > >from > > >ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I > > >have > > >that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I > > >have > > >tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and > > >direct > > >descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. > > > > > >I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or > > >corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly > > >publish > > >incorrect data... > > > > > >So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. > > >When you > > >put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what > > >you > > >have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it > > >out > > >there. > > > > > >Barb > > > > > > > > > > > >James McIlroy wrote: > > > > > > > Barbara and ALL: > > > > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether > in > > > > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that > > >material > > > > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously > > >inflated > > > > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this > > >issue > > > > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, > > >if > > > > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off > of > > >it, > > > > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites > > >to > > > > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you > put > > >out > > > > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > > > > > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. > > >You've > > > > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your > > >site! > > > > > Congratulations! > > > > > > > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When > > >you > > > > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington > and > > > > Oceola > > > > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the > descendants > > >of > > > > these > > > > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > > > > pictures, > > > > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > > > > > > > <A > > > > > > > >HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html" > > > > > > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens > Family > > >of > > > > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > > > >==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > >Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > >Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > >Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > >============================== > > >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Hi John, Great web site!!! and thank you for adding the Hill Texas pages as a link from your page! I will do the same for you, as soon as I can on the new site for Hill Texas.(In the workings) Debbie :) [email protected] wrote: > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and Oceola > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants of these > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these pictures, > reports, and documents. > > <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html">Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family of > Hill</A> > > John D. Stevens > Houston, Tx. > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

My great-great-grandpa marr. twice. 9 kids with the first, 10 with the second, which is my line. I hunted for yrs for desc. of the 9 and it took getting a computer and whaddayknow! 2 wrote me!! Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Harper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > I agree with you on this. I also have had many contacts from > having my file on worldconnect, and am gaining in knowledge almost > daily from these contacts. > Kay > > > >From: Barbara Pike <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > >Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:38:12 -0500 > > > >James, and all... > > > >I have heard that ftm does something like this... > > > >I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, > >when it > >is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that > >you > >can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. > > > >Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain > >of > >salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. > > > >I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree > >maker > >homepage. > > > >As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way > >that I > >can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, > >for > >others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave > >found > >many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they > >find > >me from what I have put out there on the web. > > > >I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every > >bit > >of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... > >then > >I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my > >hard > >work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I > >have > >gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, > >from > >ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I > >have > >that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I > >have > >tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and > >direct > >descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. > > > >I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or > >corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly > >publish > >incorrect data... > > > >So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. > >When you > >put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what > >you > >have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it > >out > >there. > > > >Barb > > > > > > > >James McIlroy wrote: > > > > > Barbara and ALL: > > > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether in > > > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that > >material > > > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously > >inflated > > > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this > >issue > > > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, > >if > > > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off of > >it, > > > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites > >to > > > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you put > >out > > > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > > > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > > > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. > >You've > > > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your > >site! > > > > Congratulations! > > > > > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When > >you > > > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and > > > Oceola > > > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants > >of > > > these > > > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > > > pictures, > > > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > > > > > <A > > > > >HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html" > > > > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family > >of > > > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > >==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > >Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > >Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > >Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > >============================== > >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. 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True Barb. I work hard and post for my family I have found or has found me. If someone wants to steal it it is on thier conscience. not mine. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "alohajones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Sharing your data - - with a grain of salt > Hello Barbara, I thought your response - your explanation - of the way many or most of us "do" genealogy was very good. I echo your thoughts. RON > I have heard that ftm does something like this...I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, when it is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that you can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. > > Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain of > salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. > > I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree maker > homepage. > > As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way that I > can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, for > others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave found > many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they find > me from what I have put out there on the web. > > I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every bit > of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... then > I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my hard > work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I have > gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, from > ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I have > that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I have > tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and direct > descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. > > I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or > corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly publish > incorrect data... > > So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. When you > put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what you > have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it out > there. > > Barb > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

I have heard of this. We work ourselves to the bone, suffer aggrivation at dead ends, etc. and they get paid for it. The oughta make everything accessible to us without no fees at least. Geez. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "James McIlroy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:59 AM Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > Barbara and ALL: > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether in > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that material > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously inflated > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this issue > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, if > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off of it, > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites to > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you put out > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. You've > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your site! > > Congratulations! > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When you > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > Barbara > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and > Oceola > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants of > these > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > pictures, > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > <A > HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html"> > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family of > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > -- > > Barbara Craddock Pike > > > > To view my family photo albums (past and present): > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=212255 > > See if you can help me identify some of my "Unknowns"! > > > > To view my short lived hobby of Computer Painting: > > http://members4.clubphoto.com/barbara324972/ > > > > > > To view my Animals Photo Albums: > > http://members3.clubphoto.com/barbara260032 > > > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Barbara, Your comments about putting your genealogy info on the web was right on. I do my own research at libraries, research centers, or on the Internet and have never purchased any of the CD's from FTM. I know they make money off other folks research, but at the same time I am using a free web site provided by them which is easy to use for those of us who are not webmasters. When I started doing this Internet genealogy "hobby" five years ago, I had a total of three cousins whom I knew personally. Today, thanks to Rootsweb, FTM, and many other sites, I now correspond with almost 40 cousins all across the nation who descended from my earliest known ancestors in NC . We had our first Reunion last year in East Texas with 45 in attendance. June 2 of this year we will have our second Reunion in NC and cousins are coming from all over the U.S. to attend. I think I have gotten my money's worth. John Stevens

Amen, John! I consider my "research" a gift to others as well as myself. I have benefitted from other's generosity & don't mind when it's the other way around. Some folks need to have real problems to worry about - this is nonsense & takes the fun out of this hobby. Diane in Conroe, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > Barbara, > Your comments about putting your genealogy info on the web was right > on. I do my own research at libraries, research centers, or on the Internet > and have never purchased any of the CD's from FTM. I know they make money > off other folks research, but at the same time I am using a free web site > provided by them which is easy to use for those of us who are not webmasters. > > When I started doing this Internet genealogy "hobby" five years ago, I > had a total of three cousins whom I knew personally. Today, thanks to > Rootsweb, FTM, and many other sites, I now correspond with almost 40 cousins > all across the nation who descended from my earliest known ancestors in NC . > We had our first Reunion last year in East Texas with 45 in attendance. June > 2 of this year we will have our second Reunion in NC and cousins are coming > from all over the U.S. to attend. > I think I have gotten my money's worth. > John Stevens > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

It's the rookie that falls into the trap. After getting bit a few times by their software you learn. Maybe other will see this and not be suckered into wasting money. Rich Brannan -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Pike [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) James, and all... I have heard that ftm does something like this... I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, when it is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that you can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain of salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree maker homepage. As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way that I can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, for others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave found many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they find me from what I have put out there on the web. I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every bit of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... then I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my hard work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I have gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, from ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I have that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I have tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and direct descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly publish incorrect data... So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. When you put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what you have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it out there. Barb James McIlroy wrote: > Barbara and ALL: > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether in > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that material > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously inflated > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this issue > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, if > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off of it, > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites to > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you put out > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. You've > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your site! > > Congratulations! > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When you > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > Barbara > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and > Oceola > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants of > these > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > pictures, > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > <A > HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html"> > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family of > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

I agree with you on this. I also have had many contacts from having my file on worldconnect, and am gaining in knowledge almost daily from these contacts. Kay >From: Barbara Pike <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) >Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:38:12 -0500 > >James, and all... > >I have heard that ftm does something like this... > >I have never understood why *anyone* would purchase the stuff from FTM, >when it >is just a collection of files submitted by people.. most of the info that >you >can get for free on rootsweb or by querying on message forums, etc. > >Whenever you gather data like this, you should always "take it with a grain >of >salt"...and try to confirm sources, etc. > >I have my gedcom on rootsweb world connect. I also have a family tree >maker >homepage. > >As far as others profitting from my hard work.... well... if the only way >that I >can keep that from happening, is not putting what I have found out there, >for >others to find me... then, for me, it's an acceptable trade off. I gave >found >many cousins, and many have found me, because when they do a search, they >find >me from what I have put out there on the web. > >I guess if I was a hardcore researcher, who had personally documented every >bit >of the data that I had... had spent years in courthouses and libraries.... >then >I would feel differently. I would be more "possessive" or protective of my >hard >work... and probably publish a book. But, much of what I have gathered, I >have >gathered off the web, from others; from world connect, from message forums, >from >ftm, from ancestry.com. I am sure that I have some erroneous info...and I >have >that on my gedcom...that you should try to verify the info yourself. I >have >tried with my most direct lines, to find sources and documentation (and >direct >descendants) that can verify or confirm what I have gathered. > >I also have on my gedcom a request that if you know of any additions or >corrections to my "work" that you notify me. I don't want to knowingly >publish >incorrect data... > >So, in this age of computers... it must be a decision we have to make. >When you >put something on the web, it's out there for people to "steal". If what >you >have is something that you don't want "stolen", then you shouldn't put it >out >there. > >Barb > > > >James McIlroy wrote: > > > Barbara and ALL: > > Be advised that anything you put on a FamilyTree Maker site, whether in > > Gedcom form or photo's or text is usually copied by FTM, and that >material > > becomes the CD information that is sold back to you at ridiculously >inflated > > prices. A lot of people lately on other lists have been raising this >issue > > with FTM, and the response from FTM has been less than responsive. So, >if > > you do not mind someone else taking your hard work and profiting off of >it, > > at your expense, then feel free to use FTM, or some of the other sites >to > > include Rootsweb then by all means use them. But, know anything you put >out > > there is fair game for them to resell, documented or undocumented. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara Pike" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:50 AM > > Subject: Re: Photo site (Stevens Family of Hill Co) > > > > > John... I went to your familytreemaker site, and it was very nice. >You've > > done a wonderful job of putting your family history and photos on your >site! > > > Congratulations! > > > > > > I would be happy to also put your photos on the Hill Co. Site. When >you > > send them to me, also include whatever info you'd like included. > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > My ancestors (Gathings and Stevens) settled around the Covington and > > Oceola > > > > areas of Hill County. I have created a Web Site for the descendants >of > > these > > > > early pioneers of Texas and Hill County. > > > > Feel free to visit the following web site and see some of these > > pictures, > > > > reports, and documents. > > > > > > > > <A > > >HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/John-D-Stevens/index.html"> > > Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: The Stevens Family >of > > > > Hill</A> > > > > > > > > John D. Stevens > > > > Houston, Tx. > > > > > > > > ==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== > > > > Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html > > > > Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 > > > > Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > >==== TXHILL Mailing List ==== >Website by Debbie: http://homepages.go.com/~disco77/HillTx.html >Photosite by Barb: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293428835 >Obits: http://www//.zing.com/ablum/?id=4292931921 > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com