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    1. Fw: East Texas Lore and Hallsville Help
    2. Gail Brown
    3. Can anyone help Bill with understanding migration patterns from LA to E. TX? I'll have to admit I'm fairly clueless in this area. We in ETexas *know* about humidity! It's not something that's ever inspired nostalgia in me, though. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: bill Penny <bpenny@pclink.com> To: Gail Brown <rexbrown@shreve.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:27 PM Subject: Re: East Texas Lore and Hallsville Help > I am very interested in finding out more about east Texas myself, and > specifically Marshall. I had posted some time ago, relating to my great > grandmother living there at the age of 18 in 1880, on her own. > > In that year's census she (Corene MERRITT) is recorded as saying she and > her parents were born in Louisiana. I have been unable to trace the > parents--I understand that Marshall was a boomtown then, and indeed that > many people flocked there. > > Are there patterns / clues of people movement from Louisiana to Marshall, > that would help me find her origins? > Many MERRITS in Louisiana, but I have found no household in the 1870 census > that is even possible. I could have overlooked them in the eyestrain of > microfilm study--but?? > > Bill in Minnesota (originally from Galveston), where the humidity is 90% > this week. All the natives are sweltering, and I am just nostalgic! > > Thx, > > Bill > > >

    06/23/1999 03:58:53
    1. Philadelphia West Ball/Bull Blakey Lovelace
    2. BusbyJ
    3. Looking for the final resting place of Philadelphia West LOVELACE and her two young children. Philadelphia West Blakey Bull Lovelace died 1873 Her son - Robert J. Lovelace died 1867 Her daughter - Lucy Tabitha Lovelace died 1869 Philadelphia also had a older daughter Susan A. BALL/BULL born about 1853. Philadelphia was the daughter of Benjamin WEST who lived in Marshall around 1840-1860. She married two or three times. 1st to Columbus Percy BALL/BULL 2nd to BLAKEY 3rd to W. T. LOVELACE. If you have any connection to these lines or know where she might be buried, please contact me. Appreciate your time and help. Your East Texas Cousin, Jackie

    06/23/1999 02:16:09
    1. Re: East Texas Lore and Hallsville Help
    2. Gail Brown
    3. Hi Jackie, There's not too much that 'Mama don't allow' on this list - I LOVE the discussions of what life was like 'back when'! Names and dates are fine, but the best part of family history research is the 'meat on the bones'. So, please share these tidbits, like Peggy and Jackie have done. Some of these stories would be great for the H.C. Genealogical Society newsletter, too. If anyone wants to write a short - one page - article, please let me know. Deadline for the September issue will be August 1, and you can just send to me e-mail. Just about any topic is acceptable, as long as it has to do with Harrison Co. history and/or genealogy AND it's of general interest. I'm the new editor of the newsletter and need lots of help in filling out the 4 issues a year. Also, don't forget the H.C. Message boards http://www.rootsweb.com/~txharris/genconnect.htm Posting your queries on the list is great, but do it at the Query board, too. If you have wills, deeds, pensions, bios, obits, or Bible records for your H.C. ancestors, there's a place for you to share that information, too. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: BusbyJ <busby@ix.netcom.com> To: <TXHARRISON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:47 PM > > Yes, it has been TOO quiet on the list. I know all y'all nice East Texas folks must be putting > up those cream peas for the winter or eating those wonderful fresh East Texas tomatoes?

    06/23/1999 02:13:02
    1. East Texas Lore and Hallsville Help
    2. BusbyJ
    3. JLowery000@aol.com wrote: > Boy it has been VERY QUITE on the list lately. Dear Harrison County List, Yes, it has been TOO quiet on the list. I know all y'all nice East Texas folks must be putting up those cream peas for the winter or eating those wonderful fresh East Texas tomatoes? Heard y'all have rain this week so that means there will probably be some good field corn this year. Sure missed my annual serving of home made cream corn last year because of the drought. Can't get any of that good Southern soul food out here in Northern California. Gail, who is our list owner, will probably remind us that we are not "suppose" to discuss things like the food and the weather on this list. But, I actually think of this as a cultural education for all of y'all out there who had ancestors in Harrison County. I have always heard that during the Civil War years when the South was destitute and food was hard to come by, a lot of our ancestors lived off the dried field peas. It seemed that the Northern soldiers did not know they were eatable, thought they were feed for cattle and left them. So, our ancestors found ways to make them taste delicious and generations later we just know they taste great! Planning on finishing up my survey of the NoonDay Cemetery which is in the Hallsville area of Harrison County. Will be submitting it to the Harrison County GenWeb page. If you have anyone you think is buried there, let me know and I will check for you. Or if you KNOW they are buried there but have never seen their grave, let me know and I'll take a picture and send it to you. But let me know right away. Just a reminder, I have a copy of, "The Hallsville Cemetery; A History of It's People" which is hard to find. It has lots of family information and too many surnames to list. So, if you have ancestors that lived around the Hallsville area of Harrison County send me the names and I'll check the book for you. Anyway, I am still looking for anyone with connections to the Richardson, Thomas, Lovelace, Hickey, and Cogburn families that lived in Harrison county from 1840 to the present. Have lots of information on this group and would love to find a new cousin. Your East Texas Cousin, Jackie

    06/23/1999 01:47:58
    1. OK, I'll post ..STORY, DAVIS, HUMPHREYS, Panola/Shelby, Harrison Co.'s TX
    2. Peggy Loar
    3. Hello List, I wanted to share what I found at the end of April on my 3 day research trip to the piney woods. I had no idea that my ancestors were as far east in Texas as Panola/Harrison/Shelby counties until a very generous fellow genealogist, NOTHA STEVENS, notified me that my Fletcher (also M. F.) Davis who I had been searching in vain for, was actually Martin Fletcher DAVIS, son of Nathan DAVIS and Susan FLETCHER. I had been unable to find anything on him before he bought 102 2/5 acres of land in Henderson County Texas (actually he traded 3 bales of cotton each weighing 500 pounds). He evidently died between March 1885 when he bought another tract of land, and November of 1886 when his widow remarried. He had been impossible to find since he is not listed in the census index, but Notha let me know that he was on the census in Panola county in 1880. From there it just snow balled! Yippee!! Martin Fletcher DAVIS married Laura Ellen STORY, another one that was impossible to track since the maiden name on her daughter's death certificate said Laura Ellen was "STREEY". I had assumed that it might be a typo of "STREET" Thanks to other generous fellow researchers, Carol ? <C. VanV> and Elizabeth (Beth) STORY MOORE for letting me know that Laura Ellen STORY was the daughter of Joseph STORY and Tenny HUMPHREYS..... And that Tenny was the daughter of Joseph HUMPHREYS who died in Harrison County, Texas about 1844. I found that Joseph was a widower who had come to Texas with his 2 small children after their mother's death. He later married Sarah STORY (no relationship has been established between Sarah STORY HUMPHREYS and Joseph STORY who married Tenny HUMPHREYS, daughter of Joseph HUMPHREYS) While in Harrison County doing my research, I found that Joseph Humphreys had donated 50 acres of land from his own headright on the Sabine River, to be the site of the county seat of Harrison County. He also donated the timber on the tract to be used to build the court house, jail, church and other buildings for the town site of what became Pulaski. Files submitted to the Harrison County Historical Commission as well as information found at the library in Shelby County show that Pulaski was the 2nd County seat of Harrison County and when Panola County was carved out of Harrison and Shelby Counties, Pulaski was the first County seat of Panola County. In 1849, when it was decided that Pulaski was not near enough to the center of the County, Carthage became the county seat. Hope someone finds something of interest here. Without the help of others, I would still be stuck on M. F. DAVIS in Henderson County in 1883. Peggy Loar still be stuck on M. F. DAVIS in = Henderson County in 1883. Peggy Loar

    06/23/1999 01:04:24
    1. Harmony Baptist Church
    2. Boy it has been VERY QUITE on the list lately. Is it because all of the East Texans are out enjoying the sun shine, heat and humidity? Well if so, let me rack your brains today. Does anyone have any info on the Harmony Baptist Church near Harleton, TX? It was supposed to have been chartered around 1890. Thanks in advance...John Lowery

    06/22/1999 11:48:11
    1. Leeper Family Info
    2. iraggi
    3. Hello to everyone on here. I am looking for any help you might give me. I am looking to see if anyone has any info on the Leeper family. If there was any way I could get someone to look and see if there was in the census index. We do not have one here in our library. Charles Leeper died in Marshall, Tx. they tell me. His son was named Harry C. Leeper and he was born about 1920 something in Marshall, Tx. If anyone has any info on this family please give me a yell. Anything will help. Thanks in advance for the help. Teresa iraggi@tisd.net

    06/21/1999 09:55:27
    1. New things at Rootsweb and more
    2. Gail Brown
    3. Hi All, Lots of new doings at Rootsweb over the last few weeks. Surname and County Resource Pages have been added. It's been a little confusing for county coordinators and those of us who have GenConnect boards and surname mailing lists, and maddening for the Rootsweb staff and volunteers. But this is a good change that - hopefully - will benefit your research. When you visit Rootsweb www.rootsweb.com now, you'll notice banner advertising - this was necessary to sustain Rootsweb and to help it to grow. Unfortunately not enough people donated funds to keep things going. They still need money from us, the users of the service, so please consider making a donation - whatever size will be appreciated. Visit http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/index.html to see the state links for county resources at Rootsweb and http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Harrison/ to see the resources for Harrison County. This page, in no way, replaces my Harrison Co. TXGenWeb site, and you'll find a link to it from that page as well. You'll also find links to each of the GenConnect Boards. Remember to post queries ONLY at the Query Board, but if you have anything else to share in the other categories, please, please do. There are a few bios, obits, and two wills already posted. Take a look and see what you might add. While I'm at this, I send a big thank-you to the Harrison County Genealogical Society, whose members - primarily Hubert Bender and Alice Barron - check the queries periodically and offer any information they can find in the research library at the museum. Many of you have also corresponded with Jimmy Oliphant, who's been answering queries for the last few years. Thank you, thank you!!! BTW dues are due now and are much appreciated! See www.rootsweb.com/~txharris/hcgensoc.htm for more information. But please don't get your feelings hurt if your query is not answered - it probably means that there's simply no information in the library to help. (That seems to be the case whenever I request information across the country.) FYI, construction on the roof of the old courthouse museum continues, and artifacts have now been moved to another location, where they will stay until the work is completed. The Historical Society has stated that the Research Library will stay open for the duration of the repair work, since that's the most visited part of the museum. Yea!!! Now for the Surname Resource Page - Check out http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/ and see what's available at Rootsweb for you surnames. Please remember that these changes are brand new, and it's possible there are still some bugs lurking here and there. I've seen some new subs to the list in the last few weeks, so welcome to you! Please let us know who you are and what lines you're researching. And those of you who haven't posted in a while, let us hear from you, too. I'd like to see some life on this list! Rusty, I haven't heard from you in a while about the cemetery listings - anyone want to walk a cemetery in the county? Do it now before the heat comes. Oh - one more thing - in a weak moment, I agreed to be the editor for the Harrison County Genealogical Society's quarterly newsletter. Yikes!!! Edna promised lots of help, and I'll need that from you all, too. The next issue will come out in September, so be thinking about a short article you might write - or offer some suggestions for what you'd like to see in the newsletter. I have the software to set up the newsletter, but I need a lot of help in the content! Have a great weekend, and good luck with your research, Gail

    06/11/1999 05:37:50
    1. Crack in my Brick Wall - Hughes
    2. My dad recieved a letter from a Ms Norene Parrish in Richardson, Texas. She is some how related to us.. and i am not quiet sure how yet. But she did have some information on my dads family - my brick wall for years - that may help bring it down a bit..the wall that is! A few weeks ago i posted all the names - one was a Fronnie Foster.. well turns out that is her nickname. Her real name - Safrone Ann Foster Hughes and she died sometime in Januray of 1929. She was married to John C Hughes. They at one time lived in an area near what is now know as North Heights School District, i believe somewhere near Texarkana? The name of the town started with Forrest _____. She said it was a new tonw then (but gave no dates). The children were - Jacob Solomon Hughes - had a son (stil living i think in Little Rock arkansas) named - Jacob Solomon Hughes Jr.. He was always called Pete - apparantly the Sr Jacob didn't like both of them being called Jake.. so, he called him Pete. Name stuck.. There was another brother to Jacob/Pete - Joseph Franklin Hughes. I am assuming he was named after my grandfather.. he is still alive, and lives in Texarkana, Tx. He is 88 according to the letter. Norene, was either their sister or one of their daughters.. THe relationship is very unclear right now. The rest of John & Fronnies Kids were - Margaret Hughes Hempoly, Mary Hughes Betterton, a daughter Laura who married - a mormon and left the family...i think this persons name was Tom Talley..but that is based on hearsay. The lived in Rosewood Texas. Laura was later found murdered? I think the story goes? On with the kids - Rosemary, John , Denson, Joseph (m ggrandfather) and Millie. I met Millies daughter Olene 2 years ago when I started. But due to failing health she has been unable to provide much information. So, i guess my next step would be try to find Joseph Franklin Hughes in Arkansas? Maybe send a letter? Pete i am told is in a health care facility with failing health. I am excited as in the letter .. it was stated that we were on the LDS site.. but not under which name.. So, i have started the search there again.. So far no luck. She could have meant - her family..not ours.. Anyway, at least now i have a place to go to.... before i was blindly looking. Now i have something to go on.. at least i think i do! And that matters to me! I appreciate you all! Janet

    06/06/1999 02:43:21
  1. 05/27/1999 04:42:30
    1. My Brick Wall
    2. Hi I have been searching for the past 2 years on my grandfather.. My brick wall has chipped some..but it hasn't come down yet! Joseph Franklin Hughes - b July 31, 1884 - he married Mary Ann Cornelius around 1919 -1920 - she was born on July 2, 1902. Together they had 2 children - Harlen Hughes - born June 10, 1921 and died Nov 12, 1928. Herman Orvis Hughes - born August 20, 1927. Mary died October 20, 1927 due to complications at child birht. My dad was born 2 months premature.. Story was he was so tiny, that they carried him in a shoe box! He wore doll clothes as the family could not afford to have any made to fit him. Harlen died of tonsilectomy - we think.. we are not sure. After my dad was born..and Mary died, my grandfather took off to make a living .. Harlen lived with the "Hughes" side of family..and Dad with the "Cornelius" side..where he lived until he was older. He never saw his dad.. he never returned. Joe or Joseph.. died in San angelo years later of Tubercelosis - He died, April 2, 1933. Before he married Mary, its thought he had another marriage because my dad was told about a step brother & sister..Ruel & Ruth Hughes. I have no other information except that one lived in Shreveport LA and the other in Germany. Don't know if the information is accurate..have not found a thing I do have what is believed to be Joes picture standing in front of a street car. He was a street car conducter. at one time. Have learned..that Joe comes from a large family. His mother was FRONNIE FOSTER HUGHES .. have no information on his dad. Brothers & sisters were - Jake, Denson, John, Laura, Mary & Millie. My dad got a note with Fronnies picture attached the othe day! First time he has ever seen a picture of his grandmother.. and there was a note.. when she was younger she had burnt her hands.. and you could tell it in picture.. I sent out an e-mail a year ago.. to locate and Ollene Stanley.. she was Millies daughter.. and you know, i got a hit! :) and we have met..and she has provided alot of information..but not enough. She is very ill..and i have taken notes.. gotten pictures..etc.. everytime we meet. My dad is really enjoying. Well you know my story.. I am tryiing to found out more on Mary & Joseph.. and any other relations.. Appreciate you reading..and maybe you know of these names? Most of from Arkansas.. some from Texas. Thanks Janet

    05/23/1999 04:09:00
    1. Fw: Nacodoches County
    2. Gail Brown
    3. In case some of you have a connection with Nacogdoches County, I'm forwarding an edited version of Pam's message to the TXGen-L list. I've noticed some new subscribers to TXHarrison-L lately, so please introduce yourself and let us know what lines you're researching - or any questions you have. Maybe someone will have the answer! Have a great weekend - Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Phillips <paphillips@inu.net> To: <TXGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 4:36 AM Subject: New GenConnect Query Forum for Nacogdoches > I have just send this message out to East-Texas-Roots and to TXNACOGD-L. I > thought some here, especially coordinators of East Texas counties, might > also be interested. Please especially promote orders for the Nacogdoches > County Families book. We're really hoping to get this reprinted. It is > currently out of print and only available in libraries. > > > Greetings, everyone, > The Nacogdoches County TX Genweb site is at > > http://www.webnac.com/txnacogd > > This is the current and updated version. Any other site that you may find > is an outdated one, and will be deleted shortly. I have redone the site, and > added the new GenConnect Query Board, and an Announcements/What's New > section. > Other news: > > The Nacogdoches Genealogical Society is hoping that the publisher will > reprint the large black 'Nacogdoches County Families' book. They need *200* > orders before they will do that. This is an extremely valuable book for > anyone doing research in Nacogdoches County and it is out of print. All the > information on how to order copies of the proposed reprint is at the > Nacogdoches web site under Announcements/What's New. You will need to send > in a deposit for each book you order. If the book is NOT reprinted, all the > money will be refunded, so there is no risk. Please consider ordering one or > more copies. My parents ordered one for each of their children. > > There are several new cemeteries listed including Saints Rest transcribed by > Laura Flebbe, Black Jack by Reba Powers et.al. and Oak Grove by Virginia > Rigby and the staff at the ETRC. Information is also under > Announcements/What's New. > > I would love to have some more LOOK-UP VOLUNTEERS. The information and a > link to the USGenweb Copyright guidelines is all there -- again, under > Announcements/What's New. > > The Nacogdoches Genealogical Society is active, has a great publication, > Yesterdays, terrific monthly programs and a friendly meeting, as well as a > growing Computer Interest Group. If you are not already a member, please > consider joining. The current and updated web site is at: > > http://www.webnac.com/NacGS > > If you are a member of the NacGS or are considering becoming a member, there > is a new mailing list for the NacGS CIG. Please note, though, that it is for > keeping in touch, and asking/answering questions to do with genealogy and > computers. It is not a list for giving/receiving genealogical information > about Nacogdoches County. That is what the TXNACOGD-L list is for. > > If you would like to subscribe to the TX-NACGSCIG-L mailing list, send an > email to > > TX-NACGSCIG-L-request@rootsweb.com > > with the one word 'subscribe' (no quotes) in the BODY of the message. > > Sincerely, > > > Pam Phillips > Email:webpsalms@iname.com > County Coordinator: Nacogdoches County > Listowner: East-Texas-Roots-L (Mailing List for all of East Texas) > Listowner: TXNACOGD-L (Mailing List for genealogy and history specific to > Nacogdoches County > Listowner: TX-NACGSCIG-L (Mailing List for members, potential members and > supporters of the Nacogdoches Genealogical Society and its Computer Interest > Group) > Chair: Nacogdoches Genealogical Society Computer Interest Group

    05/14/1999 06:43:22
    1. Fw: [TXGENWEB] UPDATE HB 836
    2. Gail Brown
    3. I hope this will be the last word on HB 836 for a while. It's a serious issue, and I want to keep you up to date on it, with a minimum of misinformation. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Mic Barnette (by way of Trey Holt <holt@txcyber.com>) <barnette@neosoft.com> To: <TXGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 10:09 PM Subject: [TXGENWEB] UPDATE HB 836 > Dear Fellow HB 836-ers > > > THERE WILL BE NO HEARING WEDNESDAY MORNING > > Thanks to all who wrote, telephoned, faxed and emailed. > > Senator Zaffirini, sponsor of HB 836, pulled the bill from the hearing set > for Wednesday tomorrow morning at 7 A.M. > > Our senators have heard our pleas and are looking closer at HB 836. > > Sen Zaffirini's office is reworking the wording of the bill as they will > propose it. > > Please be vigilant and keep a close watch on what happens. If you are able > to be present at the hearing when it is re-scheduled, please do. If you have > not contacted your senator and the Senate Health Services Committee members, > please do. > > > ADDRESSES AND FORMATTING EMAILS To SENATORS > > For as long as the crisis lasts, the latest information on HB 836 will be > posted on the website of Barnette's Family Tree Book Co at > http://barnettesbooks.com > > Earlier we posted a format for emails to senators. The format was incorrect. > It has been corrected on the website now. > > Basically, to format an email to your own senator, use your own senator's > name in the following format: > > Firstname.Lastname@senate.state.tx.us > > If you do not know the name of your senator, a link to the Texas legislature > website is on Barnette's Books webpage. Just link to the website and insert > your home address. The website will give you the name of your state senator. > > There is a link on the same website to find the name, address, telephone and > fax number of your senator. > > The names, addresses, telephone numbers, faxes and email addresses of the > Senate Health Services Committee are posted on the website. > > On the same website there is a link that will give the current status of HB > 836 or any other bill in the legislature. > > I will be leaving this Friday morning for Richmond Virginia. I will be there > all next week attending the National Genealogical Society Conference. I > will be totally out of state and out of the loop. > > John Miller, President of the Austin Genealogical Society, has agreed to > coordinate and be a point of contact until this situation is resolved. > > John's email address is JoCMiller@aol.com Thank you , John! > > Shannon Clyde shannonc@wwclyde.com sent the following message. It seems to > summarize and clarify what we have been able to ascertain. It explains much > of the differences we, as genealogists, have with HB 836 and explains the > intent of the bill as it was originally introduced. Unfortunately the bill > got to the legislature before it should have. > > Thank you, Shannon. > > > Dear folks, > I hope I can clarify and update you on House Bill 836 re. Vital Records in > Texas, specifically the controversy about the Summary Index. Feel free to > drop me a line for more information or to clarify anything in this mail. > The Problem: > Birth and Death Records in Texas are sealed for 50 and 25 years > respectively. This includes the General Index which includes parental data. > It is not supposed to include the Summary Index which includes Name, Date, > Place. Some local clerks were not aware of this distinction, or under > concerns for privacy, closed all Birth and Death information, including the > Summary Index until they met the 25/50 rule and could be opened. > House Bill 836 authored by the honorable Tracy O. King of Uvalde, Texas was > created to clarify the appropriate disclosure of the Summary Index. While > in committee, HB836 was amended to distinguish between the General Index > and the Summary Index. An error appears to have been made that instead of > clarifying the difference, closed all index information with the records, > tying them to the 25/50 year rule. > The General Index should remain tied to the actual record. This is > reinforced by existing legislature (see Administration Code Chapter > 1871.10 http://www.sos.state.tx.us ). This protects against misuse and > primarily protects the parents of adopted children who wish to remain > anonymous. > Call To Action: > Genealogists and others who need public access to the summary index should > voice their opinion with the chairperson of the Senate Human Services, > Honorable Ms. Judith Zaffirini and the author of the bill, Honorable Tracy > O. King. The persons handling this legislation in their offices are: > For Zaffirini: Sophia - phone:512-463-0121 > For King: Amy - phone 512-463-0742 > Please reinforce that we must keep the Summary Index open to the public. > Update: > I spoke with Sophia in the office of the Honorable Ms. Zaffirini. Sophia > explained that they have decided to postpone public hearing until next week > so that they have time to fix the error in the amendment. > I hope this helps. > regards, > Shannon Clyde > http://wwclyde.com/gibsonfamily > http://wwclyde.com/clydefamily > http://wwclyde.com/wealesfamily > > > > > > Mic Barnette's Writes a Weekly Genealogy Column In > The Houston Chronicle. Read it on the Web At Barnette's > Family Tree Book Company > http://barnettesbooks.com > > > > > > ==== TXGEN Mailing List ==== > The TXGEN-L/TXGEN-D mailing list is for announcements and the > discussion of issues concerning the volunteers of The TXGenWeb Project. > This is NOT the proper list for posting genealogical research queries. >

    05/05/1999 07:25:10
    1. Fw: [TXGENWEB] Clarification/Update on HB 836 Vital Records
    2. Gail Brown
    3. The hearing scheduled for this morning has been postponed until next week - please read this forward for details. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Aurale Huff <leehuff@gvtc.com> To: <TXGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 8:42 PM Subject: [TXGENWEB] Clarification/Update on HB 836 Vital Records > >From Aurale Huff: > > This did not come over the TXGEN list, so you might want to know > what Shannon Clyde says: > - - - - - - - - -- - - - > >X-Sender: shannonc@wwclyde.com@mail.wwclyde.com > >Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:48:25 -0500 > >To: GIBSON-L@rootsweb.com, TXBRAZOS-L-request@rootsweb.com, > > TX-Rooters@genexchange.com, GenExchange-L@genexchange.com, > > GERMAN-TEXAN-L@rootsweb.com, TX-Landmark-L@rootsweb.com > >From: Shannon Clyde <shannonc@wwclyde.com> > >Subject: Clarification/Update on HB 836 Vital Records > > > >Dear folks, > > > >I hope I can clarify and update you on House Bill 836 re. Vital Records in > >Texas, specifically the controversy about the Summary Index. Feel free to > >drop me a line for more information or to clarify anything in this mail. > > > >The Problem: > > > >Birth and Death Records in Texas are sealed for 50 and 25 years > >respectively. This includes the General Index which includes parental data. > >It is not supposed to include the Summary Index which includes Name, Date, > >Place. Some local clerks were not aware of this distinction, or under > >concerns for privacy, closed all Birth and Death information, including the > >Summary Index until they met the 25/50 rule and could be opened. > > > >House Bill 836 authored by the honorable Tracy O. King of Uvalde, Texas was > >created to clarify the appropriate disclosure of the Summary Index. While > >in committee, HB836 was ammended to distinguish between the General Index > >and the Summary Index. An error appears to have been made that instead of > >clarifying the difference, closed all index information with the records, > >tying them to the 25/50 year rule. > > > >The General Index should remain tied to the actual record. This is > >reinforced by existing legistlature (see Administration Code Chapter > >1871.10 http://www.sos.state.tx.us ). This protects against misuse and > >primarily protects the parents of adopted children who wish to remain > >annonymous. > > > >Call To Action: > >Genealogists and others who need public access to the summary index should > >voice their opinion with the chairperson of the Senate Human Services, > >Honorable Ms. Judith Zaffirini and the author of the bill, Honorable Tracy > >O. King. The persons handling this legislation in their offices are: > > > >For Zaffirini: Sophia - phone:512-463-0121 > >For King: Amy - phone 512-463-0742 > > > >Please reinforce that we must keep the Summary Index open to the public. > > > >Update: > >I spoke with Sophia in the office of the Honorable Ms. Zaffirini. Sophia > >explained that they have decided to postpone public hearing until next week > >so that they have time to fix the error in the ammendement. > > > >I hope this helps. > > > >regards, > > > >Shannon Clyde > >http://wwclyde.com/gibsonfamily > >http://wwclyde.com/clydefamily > >http://wwclyde.com/wealesfamily > > > > > > > ==== TXGEN Mailing List ==== > The TXGEN-L/TXGEN-D mailing list is for announcements and the > discussion of issues concerning the volunteers of The TXGenWeb Project. > This is NOT the proper list for posting genealogical research queries. >

    05/05/1999 06:12:03
    1. Fw: HB 836 - May 5, 1999
    2. Gail Brown
    3. This is a forward from one of the TXGenWeb county coordinators. You can read more about HB836 at http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/billnbr.htm I cannot find e-mail addresses for some of the committee, but John Carona has an e-mail form at http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist16/dist16.htm Judith Zaffrini (chairman) http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist21/dist21.htm Mario Gallegos - http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/members/dist6/dist6.htm A bill that was begun to ensure the public availability of birth and death indexes for TX has been reversed by an amendment. If you're in the Austin area, please go to the capitol tomorrow to show support for the opening of the birth and death indexes. If you can't be there, please fax or e-mail your views. For further information and e-mail addresses, please see http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/7552/hb836.htm Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Aurale Huff <leehuff@gvtc.com> To: <TXGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 6:57 PM Subject: [TXGENWEB] HB 836 - All Co. Coordinators > To All Texas County Coordinators: > > LAST CHANCE to exprews our viewpoint. When it started, this bill was > supposed to protect the index from closure. > > With the neat wording of the committee, it now is worded to CLOSE the index > as well as the records for 25 and 50 years respectively. > > You can check at www.capitol.state.tx.us/ > > I don't have email for the committee members, but here are their fax numbers: > > Chair, Judith Zaffirini (512/475/3738) > Vice-Chair, John Carona (512/463-3135) > Member, Mario Gallegos (512/463-0346) > Member, David Bernsen (512/463-6373) > Member, Chris Harris (512/463-7003) >

    05/04/1999 07:46:52
    1. We are nearly packed and gone...
    2. Nearly finished, we will be moving to TEXAS today, probably this evening. I will have access to email through a friend, until I get mine back online. Will write everyone as soon as that happens...I don't think I will have access to my address book, so if you don't email me, I won't have any way to contact you...so write, I will start my new job Monday morning, and we will be in our new apartment in about a week, they are getting us new carpet...I'd rather have a phone line for my computer. Take care, and don't forget me...Marguerite Prince Songy

    04/30/1999 03:31:18
    1. Exploring Our Roots
    2. Gail Brown
    3. The Today Show is featuring its hosts this week in an "Exploring Our Roots" segment. Yesterday, Ann Curry was featured in her search for her mother's Japanese roots, and today was Al Roker's turn in his search in the Bahamas. Really, really interesting! This site will have more info http://www.msnbc.com/modules/genealogy/default.asp Gail

    04/27/1999 07:52:20
    1. new subscriber
    2. Sue Doherty
    3. I am looking for any information about my grandfather, Julius Hulen Craver, son of Alexander Rowan Craver. Julius married Estelle Robison of (I think) Morris Co. in the late 1800's or early 1900's.

    04/24/1999 05:21:11
    1. Seeking HENRY Resources
    2. Doug Garber
    3. Hello Harrison County, Presently, members of the HENRY surname list are building a web site that contains an index of their HENRYs. When completed, it should be helpful to many HENRY family historians. I have been asked to conduct a search for links to HENRY online resources like personal web pages, and county and local genealogy association resource pages. If you have substantial HENRY information on your web page or know of HENRY information on your county or other local web site, please send the links to Judy Henry at jchenry@flash.net , so that they might be included in the new HENRY site. If you have some HENRY data that is not on a website, you may wish to subscribe to the list by sending an email to: HENRY-L-request@rootsweb.com containing as the only text the word "subscribe" (no quotes) in the body of the message. After you get a message confirming your subscription, post your information by email to HENRY-L@rootsweb.com . Thank you. Doug Garber, dmgarber@ac.net Researching GARBER/GERBER (SWITZ>PA>OH) HOPKINS (ENG>MA>CT>VT>NY>OH), HENRY (SCOT>VA>PA>OH), MCCOLLUM (NJ>OH>KY>OH) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/a/r/Douglas-M-Garber/

    04/23/1999 08:22:24
    1. Harrison Co. Postmasters
    2. Gail Brown
    3. Hi all Thought you might like this list of Harrison County postmasters - found some vanished communities I never knew existed. I'll add this link to the web site next time I update, but wanted you to have a preview. http://www.cyberramp.net/~jwheat/harrison.html Jim Wheat created this site http://www.cyberramp.net/~jwheat/pmpomainpage.html where all the TX counties' postmasters can be found. A terrific site!!! BTW yesterday was San Jacinto Day - April 21 - the day that Sam Houston defeated Santa Anna, in 1836. Gail

    04/22/1999 08:18:50