I may have found how WHY I can not find my POPHAMs anywhere in the US, my Grandfather may have been born in England. I found in a book called "Scatterlings: Blairs, Williams, and Turners to Texas - 1858-1873" by Julian "Rusty" Williams. Printed just last year - 1999. It is really great reading. I met Rusty (over the net) many years ago and he told me more about the Williams and Blairs than I could ever have found other ways. Mainly where they are buried and my grandfather may be buried in the Blair Cem in Grayson/Fannin Co (right smack on the county line). He said that other family members called him "that dabber litle Englishman", so I will start looking in England - WOW. But in the mean time, I am still looking here on our Popham list (plus afew other lists) Descendants of NATHAN POPHAM 1 NATHAN POPHAM 1812 - 1843 b: Abt. 1812 d: Abt. 1843 ..... 2 TRAVIS POPHAM 1836 - b: Aft. 1836 ..... 2 JAMES POPHAM 1836 - b: Aft. 1836 ..... 2 William (James Gilson) Popham 1835 - 1872 b: 1835 in Poss. England d: 1872 in CHERRY MOUND, SHERMAN, GRAYSON CO, TEX (Blair Cem in Fannin Co.) Occupation: Circuit Preacher ......... +Susannah E. Williams 1838 - 1901 b: 1838 in Pittsylvania Co., VA m: October 15, 1864 in GRAYSON CO, TEXAS d: 1901 in FORT WORTH, TARRANT CO, TEX or (Blair Cem. in Fannin Co.) Father: Benjamin Franklin Williams Mother: Anna Clement Perkins ............ 3 Sarah "Sallie" Virginia Popham 1871 - 1947 b: February 27, 1871 in GORDONVILLE, GRAYSON CO., TEXAS d: October 26, 1947 in KINGSVILLE, KLEBERG CO., TEXAS ................ +HAWKINS MAY GIBSON 1871 - 1946 b: May 10, 1871 in DALLAS CO.,TEXAS m: June 05, 1892 in GORDONVILLE, GRAYSON CO., TEXAS d: January 14, 1946 in DAMON, BRAZORIA CO., TEXAS Father: JAMES HAWKINS GIBSON Mother: MARY (POLLY) OVERSHINER Rusty says in his book that Susannah (Williams) never remarried after William POPHAM died, and that she went and lived out her life with family. But my Mother says that her grandmother (Susannah Williams Popham) remarried and had another daughter (per her mother Sarah "Sallie" Popham Gibson-my grandmother), but was retarded or handicapped and died young. And the man that Susannah married was named Cox. Still searching on that one. I will talk to Rusty again on this one. Bill Ramsey- this book would be of interest to you because of the Ramseys in it. And you are right in the middle of them where you are located. It can be purchased at Barnes and Noble. There are also Turners and Witchers. But back to my POPHAM - IF any one has any info on this line of POPHAMS, either in England or here, please contact me. Keep in mind, that Nathan could be so many different names, Jonathan, Nathaniel, or any other variations. My Mother is now almost 93 and I would love to find more on her POPHAMs before it is to late. Also I have been told that in England the name could have been O'Popham, or some other closely related name. But wouldn't O'Popham be Ireland or Scotland. I am just digging for wht ever I can find. Here's hoping some one can help me on this one. Why is it I can go back to cave men days, but cannot find my closest grandparents. not question, just a comment (lol) Margie East Phelps in Texas on the coast [email protected]