The most up to date lists though are in the Grayson County TXGenWeb site, we are correcting these and I won't be correcting the lists that are in the Archives (those ftp addresses) for a couple of years or more.Those are already almost all out of date as are lists that were sent to other cemetery websites, it is much easier to work on the one set and then when we have done all we can replace the other lists. We are doing corrections almost daily, he is also going to all obits and adding notes to many of them, of course this catches unmarked graves. I add things I have that pop up in my research , such as interviews with people who served as pallbearers at various funerals,and now he is photographing all the tombstones, I have over 6000 of them on my desk and start today. I dread the work but love it too! He already has hundreds up. Eventually I would say he would have done the top job of anyone when he is finished. I am amazed to Mike's dedication Just the obituaries alone would be too much if you ever viewed that huge and growing collection. Everyone keep sending in corrections. I make them and then send a copy to mike. We also are wanting all additional info , I take photographs sent to me of their homes, portraits, photos of themselves, biographical info and then link it to the names in the cemeteries also. Together we will sweep the county and draw out all the biographical and historical data possible. I can also link to anyones websites so let me know. Susan James Goff wrote: > Listings for Shannon Cemetery can be found > at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/grayson/cemetery/shannon.txt > > However, oddly, there is no Shannon's listed there. The person that has > done this canvas though, on other cemeteries he has done, has missed quite > a few graves and some times has messed up vitals, so.................... > >

Shannon Cemetery is online with no Shannons in it that are marked but that period is the most likely period to have wooden markers that are now gone. Lots of other Shannons in the website though, when I put it in the search engine I find 52 entrys. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ In my Grayson Co. Pioneer index are several James Shannons, none with a wife Nancy, Quite a few Shannon Families in Grayson in those early days. No Forrester families in that , just checked to see if she showed up as a daughter early on. Obituaries are available from that time period, BUT they are found in the Clarksville News and in the Dallas newspapers (I'm not positive of its starting time) The Clarksvill paper is available back into the early 1840s and on microfilm. Most of the microfilms are available through the state library. I have a link to their collections on the newspaper page of the Fannin and Grayson Websites. The Sherman papers don't start on microfilm until much later. I have the earliest index for it online. Clarksvilles newspaper carried news from all over, a shooting is of extra interest and it should be there. Go into the state library website and use the index there, even if he doesn't show up go to the parts that tell you how to send for a copy, since you have the exact date. Susan Marty Herzog wrote: > Looking for help maybe finding an obituary or death information leading to > his ancestry and that of his wife Nancy FORRESTER (1814 - 1848) > > > > James' daughter, Margaret Corley SHANNON (1847 - 1928) was born in Texas > (Grayson??) married Gideon Lyman FRIEND and moved with him to Chickasha, OK > > > > The mystery is with James. Had information that he was shot on April 25, > 1849. Supposedly buried in Shannon Cemetery in Sherman. Is there such a > cemetery? Sounds suspiciously like a family plot. > > > > Does anyone have access to newspapers (probably Sherman) for that date. It > would be a wonderful help. > > > > Thanks, > > Marty ( in Maryland )

January 24 To Marty in Maryland Excuse me for butting in here but I couldn't resist :) I have this terrible 'affliction' where unconnected data goes into the 'grey cells' and is brought forth by some unconnected reason. I don't wish to presume you haven't already discovered and maybe you already know that the Shannon's gave land for the site of Sherman (see below for references) and that in February 1850 it was specified as the County Seat.(a) Fannin County came from Red River County and included portion that was to become Grayson County. Moving into this area were several distinguished individuals, distinguished in that they played a role in later development. it was written that in 1837 James Shannon was one of twelve such persons to arrive. "...They settled mainly on the waters of Choctaw Creek and its tributaires, Iron Ore and Post Oak Creeks. The settlements, therefore, involved almost exclusively the northeastern one half of the county..."(b) (a)pg. 13; (b)pg. 12 -Ancestors and Descendants Grayson County, Texas, copyright by Grayson County, Texas, Genealogical Society, 1980. Grayson County Before the Civil War by Morris L. Britton Another reference - Grayson County An Illustrated History of Grayson County, Texas by Graham Landrum, a publication sponsored by The Grayson County Federated Women's Clubs, there is a map which shows Shannon on the Preston Road north of Sherman, (Old Sherman is shown to the West) in the 3rd Peters Colony Contract. There is quite a bit of interesting data but I was only looking for my ancestors at the time. My research has already shown me that the 'compiler' and his assistants were not careful when they prepared his 'work' on County Cemeteries. In fact it was in October 1997 that I visited a cemetery connected to my ancestors and located and photographed two grave sites not mentioned in the 1997 'work'. Hope you find what you are looking for. From Oregon

OK - thanks for the help. Maybe I can try to contact Mike Cross. He may be willing to take another look. Marty -----Original Message----- From: James Goff [mailto:goffer@chouteautel.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:59 PM To: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GRAYSON] James B. Shannon b 1812 d 1849 Not sure if there was any newspapers there during that time, as the area was still very primitive in 1849. My great grand aunt's father-in-law, Renne Allred was one of the early settlers in the eastern part of Grayson County in the 1840's, and very little of his papers are to be obtained there. I have noticed from this mailing list that it seems a lot of people don't seem to know that there is a lot of good info obtainable, and it has a "site search" at http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ But again watch the cemeteries listings that were done by Mike Cross, and I have found different cemeteries that when you look at the listings they "appear" to be complete, but they are not complete, some one just did parts of it with no mention made they are not. At 11:43 PM 1/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for the post. Maybe some day I can get to the cemetery myself and >take a look. I was hoping to find what the newspapers said about his death. >Do you know what newspapers were in operation in those days? Maybe I can >find someone at the local library to look up the obituary. > >Thanks again, > >Marty > >-----Original Message----- >From: James Goff [mailto:goffer@chouteautel.com] >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:37 PM >To: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GRAYSON] James B. Shannon b 1812 d 1849 > >Listings for Shannon Cemetery can be found >at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/grayson/cemetery/shannon.txt > >However, oddly, there is no Shannon's listed there. The person that has >done this canvas though, on other cemeteries he has done, has missed quite >a few graves and some times has messed up vitals, so.................... > >At 11:00 PM 1/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >Looking for help maybe finding an obituary or death information leading to > >his ancestry and that of his wife Nancy FORRESTER (1814 - 1848) > > > > > > > >James' daughter, Margaret Corley SHANNON (1847 - 1928) was born in Texas > >(Grayson??) married Gideon Lyman FRIEND and moved with him to Chickasha, OK > > > > > > > >The mystery is with James. Had information that he was shot on April 25, > >1849. Supposedly buried in Shannon Cemetery in Sherman. Is there such a > >cemetery? Sounds suspiciously like a family plot. > > > > > > > >Does anyone have access to newspapers (probably Sherman) for that date. It > >would be a wonderful help. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Marty ( in Maryland ) > > > > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ > >http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Grayson/ > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com >Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >So many dead men! So little time! >Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Is there anyone on the list that frequents the VanAlstyne Cemetery in Grayson Co., TX, that would consider taking some photos of my ancestors monuments, for me? I would like to have photos of the monuments of: ENLOE JAMES M -16 FEB 1810 02 MAY 1877 MASON EMBLEM ENLOE JOEL S -14 JUN 1845 15 MAY 1855 BROKEN STONE ENLOE JOHN H -12 JUL 1859 19 OCT 1859 BROKEN STONE ENLOE MARY- 26 SEP 1820 17 JUN 1877 Mary & James Enloe were husband & wife, and others were their children. Thanks, Sallie Cannon

Sally, I wrote to you a long time ago about I would take the pictures you need. Are maybe there was someone else that ask that, I don't remember who it was but it was the Enloe family there in Van Alstyne. Another thing, didn't they come from Mo? They knew my Jackson family who was in the same area in Mo and some came to same place in the Grayson and Collin Counties line. But anyway I will take the pictures you need. Gay Nix > Is there anyone on the list that frequents the VanAlstyne Cemetery in Grayson Co., TX, that would consider taking some photos of my ancestors monuments, for me? > > I would like to have photos of the monuments of: > >ENLOE JAMES M -16 FEB 1810 02 MAY 1877 > MASON EMBLEM > >ENLOE JOEL S -14 JUN 1845 15 MAY 1855 > BROKEN STONE > >ENLOE JOHN H -12 JUL 1859 19 OCT 1859 > BROKEN STONE > >ENLOE MARY- 26 SEP 1820 17 JUN 1877 > > Mary & James Enloe were husband & wife, and others were their children. > > > >Thanks, > >Sallie Cannon > > > > > > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ >http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Grayson/ > > >

Thanks for the post. Maybe some day I can get to the cemetery myself and take a look. I was hoping to find what the newspapers said about his death. Do you know what newspapers were in operation in those days? Maybe I can find someone at the local library to look up the obituary. Thanks again, Marty -----Original Message----- From: James Goff [mailto:goffer@chouteautel.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:37 PM To: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GRAYSON] James B. Shannon b 1812 d 1849 Listings for Shannon Cemetery can be found at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/grayson/cemetery/shannon.txt However, oddly, there is no Shannon's listed there. The person that has done this canvas though, on other cemeteries he has done, has missed quite a few graves and some times has messed up vitals, so.................... At 11:00 PM 1/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Looking for help maybe finding an obituary or death information leading to >his ancestry and that of his wife Nancy FORRESTER (1814 - 1848) > > > >James' daughter, Margaret Corley SHANNON (1847 - 1928) was born in Texas >(Grayson??) married Gideon Lyman FRIEND and moved with him to Chickasha, OK > > > >The mystery is with James. Had information that he was shot on April 25, >1849. Supposedly buried in Shannon Cemetery in Sherman. Is there such a >cemetery? Sounds suspiciously like a family plot. > > > >Does anyone have access to newspapers (probably Sherman) for that date. It >would be a wonderful help. > > > >Thanks, > >Marty ( in Maryland ) > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ >http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Grayson/ ==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Looking for help maybe finding an obituary or death information leading to his ancestry and that of his wife Nancy FORRESTER (1814 - 1848) James' daughter, Margaret Corley SHANNON (1847 - 1928) was born in Texas (Grayson??) married Gideon Lyman FRIEND and moved with him to Chickasha, OK The mystery is with James. Had information that he was shot on April 25, 1849. Supposedly buried in Shannon Cemetery in Sherman. Is there such a cemetery? Sounds suspiciously like a family plot. Does anyone have access to newspapers (probably Sherman) for that date. It would be a wonderful help. Thanks, Marty ( in Maryland )

Not sure if there was any newspapers there during that time, as the area was still very primitive in 1849. My great grand aunt's father-in-law, Renne Allred was one of the early settlers in the eastern part of Grayson County in the 1840's, and very little of his papers are to be obtained there. I have noticed from this mailing list that it seems a lot of people don't seem to know that there is a lot of good info obtainable, and it has a "site search" at http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ But again watch the cemeteries listings that were done by Mike Cross, and I have found different cemeteries that when you look at the listings they "appear" to be complete, but they are not complete, some one just did parts of it with no mention made they are not. At 11:43 PM 1/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for the post. Maybe some day I can get to the cemetery myself and >take a look. I was hoping to find what the newspapers said about his death. >Do you know what newspapers were in operation in those days? Maybe I can >find someone at the local library to look up the obituary. > >Thanks again, > >Marty > >-----Original Message----- >From: James Goff [mailto:goffer@chouteautel.com] >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:37 PM >To: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GRAYSON] James B. Shannon b 1812 d 1849 > >Listings for Shannon Cemetery can be found >at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/grayson/cemetery/shannon.txt > >However, oddly, there is no Shannon's listed there. The person that has >done this canvas though, on other cemeteries he has done, has missed quite >a few graves and some times has messed up vitals, so.................... > >At 11:00 PM 1/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >Looking for help maybe finding an obituary or death information leading to > >his ancestry and that of his wife Nancy FORRESTER (1814 - 1848) > > > > > > > >James' daughter, Margaret Corley SHANNON (1847 - 1928) was born in Texas > >(Grayson??) married Gideon Lyman FRIEND and moved with him to Chickasha, OK > > > > > > > >The mystery is with James. Had information that he was shot on April 25, > >1849. Supposedly buried in Shannon Cemetery in Sherman. Is there such a > >cemetery? Sounds suspiciously like a family plot. > > > > > > > >Does anyone have access to newspapers (probably Sherman) for that date. It > >would be a wonderful help. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Marty ( in Maryland ) > > > > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ > >http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Grayson/ > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com >Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >So many dead men! So little time! >Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Listings for Shannon Cemetery can be found at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/grayson/cemetery/shannon.txt However, oddly, there is no Shannon's listed there. The person that has done this canvas though, on other cemeteries he has done, has missed quite a few graves and some times has messed up vitals, so.................... At 11:00 PM 1/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Looking for help maybe finding an obituary or death information leading to >his ancestry and that of his wife Nancy FORRESTER (1814 - 1848) > > > >James' daughter, Margaret Corley SHANNON (1847 - 1928) was born in Texas >(Grayson??) married Gideon Lyman FRIEND and moved with him to Chickasha, OK > > > >The mystery is with James. Had information that he was shot on April 25, >1849. Supposedly buried in Shannon Cemetery in Sherman. Is there such a >cemetery? Sounds suspiciously like a family plot. > > > >Does anyone have access to newspapers (probably Sherman) for that date. It >would be a wonderful help. > > > >Thanks, > >Marty ( in Maryland ) > > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ >http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Grayson/

Thanks for your generous offer! My Westbrook kin however were William (Samuel?) Westbrook and wife Sarah (Sallie) Doughty Westbrook. Should you come across any otheres please keep me in mind. Thanks, Merry Victoria wrote: >Found a box full of old photos taken in the early 1900's in or near Grayson County - would be willing to share copies with decendents... >Will Haines/Haynes >Robert Haines/Haynes >Anna Haynes >Veonia Carleton >Evelyn Jane Speer >Homer Speer >Lester Speer >Granny Zelpha Hopkins >Sarah Edith Howell >Jonathon Hadapple >Serena Farmer >Raye Farmer >John Ayres >Sam Scott >Scott baby >Clyde Beauford >Zella Buford >Stroud baby >Jewel Lanes >Mr. & Mrs. J B Westbrook >Zella Westbrook >Zella Vanpelt >Ray Bonham >Anna May Abels >Neva & ??? Shaw >About 100 others not identified... > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Search List Archives by keyword >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >

Is anyone on the Grayson Co. list researching the family of John Jennings. John, his wife and some of his sons were on the 1850 census of Grayson Co. (John was married to Sarah "Sally" Harris in Missouri). They had arrived in the area of Grayson Co. about 1845-46 and lived there until about 1851 when they moved to Williamson Co. When Burnet Co. was created from Williamson Co. in 1852, John was elected as one of the County Commissioners and served in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th term of the County Government. ( I have a copy of John's Oath of Office). I believe that John's son Hillard and possibly another son remained in Grayson Co. when John and the remainder of his family moved to Williamson Co. I also believe that a relative by marriage also accompanied the Jennings family to Grayson Co. That relative was Ashford Grubbs. Ashford was the son of Enoch Grubbs from S. Carolina. I also have a bit of information about him. I would be happy to share what information I have with anyone researching this family. Keith Reed Arlington, Tx.

On TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com Jan 1, 2004, you were seeking information on a Sidney Hartzog who married June 22, 1865 according to your date in Grayson Co. Sidney was a McGehee ..her Richard Marion Hartzog husband had died in 1863 in Grayson Co. (They had m. Jan. 13, 1859) and they had one son James Elijah Hartzog. I cannot confirm your marriage date or John Crenshaw's first marriage. If you have information I would like to receive it. However, Sidney and John Bates are listed in Dallas Co., Texas in the 1870 census: Dwelling #681 with Bates, John 58, SC; Bates, Sidney 40 MO; Bates, Lavenis 17 GA; Bates, Napolean 13,GA; Martha 12 MO; Hartzog James 10, Texas. . Sidney's parents are John McGehee b. abt 1810..(son of James McGehee b. abt 1780 and Jane Patterson b abt 1782) and Sarah B. Williams b. abt 1812. Sidney is the oldest of 7 children.

Found a box full of old photos taken in the early 1900's in or near Grayson County - would be willing to share copies with decendents... Will Haines/Haynes Robert Haines/Haynes Anna Haynes Veonia Carleton Evelyn Jane Speer Homer Speer Lester Speer Granny Zelpha Hopkins Sarah Edith Howell Jonathon Hadapple Serena Farmer Raye Farmer John Ayres Sam Scott Scott baby Clyde Beauford Zella Buford Stroud baby Jewel Lanes Mr. & Mrs. J B Westbrook Zella Westbrook Zella Vanpelt Ray Bonham Anna May Abels Neva & ??? Shaw About 100 others not identified...

Sedalia TX.is in Collin Co. between Westminster in Collin and Pilot Grove in Grayson Co. There are a lot of cemeteries on both sides of the county line near it. rod and vicki reynolds wrote: > Hi List, > I am searching for information on a LESTER MOSS who married JEWELL LEE BROWN. Jewell Lee Brown was born 3-28-1899 in Sedalia TX. Could anyone tell me about this town, location, population, is it in Grayson County? Jewell Lee Brown-Moss is buried somewhere in Grayson County. They had one daughter named BELMA MOSS. Jewell Lee Brown parents were EDWARD TAYLOR BROWN born in COLLIN COUNTY TX & Edward Taylor married EVA MACDOUGAL, who was born in 1881. Any lookups would be so appreciated such as census , marriage, death , etc. Eva & Edward also had the following children: Burl Franklin Brown born 1903,married Billie Arnspiger/ Nina Mae Brown born 12-29-1905/ Lela Mary born 1908,married Ocie Adams/ Alton Lawrence Brown born 1914 & had the nick name of "Bill" / Beulah Mabel nick name "Bea" born 1918. I am seeking additional information on this MacDougal line as well. Thank you & best wishes to you all. > Vicki > Houston TX > > ==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/ > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/TX/Grayson/

HI list, Seeking & searching for information on LELA MARY BROWN born 1908 , married OCIE ADAMS. I am seeking for any lookups on them. Lela Mary Brown's parent's were EDWARD TAYLOR BROWN & EVA MACDOUGAL. Thank you for your help. best wishes, Vicki Houston TX

Hi List, Seeking information on BURL FRANKLIN BROWN born 1903, married BILLIE ARNSPIGER of Grayson County TX. Burl's parents were EDWARD TAYLOR BROWN & EVA MACDOUGAL. Thank you! Vicki Houston TX

Hi List, Seeking, searching for information on EVA MACDOUGAL born in Collin County TX. I am seeking a marriage lookup for Eva or Evie who married Edward Taylor Brown. Can someone help me, please? Thank you very much & best wishes to you all. Vicki Houston TX

Hi List, I am searching for information on a LESTER MOSS who married JEWELL LEE BROWN. Jewell Lee Brown was born 3-28-1899 in Sedalia TX. Could anyone tell me about this town, location, population, is it in Grayson County? Jewell Lee Brown-Moss is buried somewhere in Grayson County. They had one daughter named BELMA MOSS. Jewell Lee Brown parents were EDWARD TAYLOR BROWN born in COLLIN COUNTY TX & Edward Taylor married EVA MACDOUGAL, who was born in 1881. Any lookups would be so appreciated such as census , marriage, death , etc. Eva & Edward also had the following children: Burl Franklin Brown born 1903,married Billie Arnspiger/ Nina Mae Brown born 12-29-1905/ Lela Mary born 1908,married Ocie Adams/ Alton Lawrence Brown born 1914 & had the nick name of "Bill" / Beulah Mabel nick name "Bea" born 1918. I am seeking additional information on this MacDougal line as well. Thank you & best wishes to you all. Vicki Houston TX

This information can be found online at www.rootsweb.com/~txgrayso/records2.html I packed the plat book away now that I know it is online- sorry and good luck with your search! Victoria -----Original Message----- From: Dehanlon@aol.com <Dehanlon@aol.com> To: TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com <TXGRAYSO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [GRAYSON] 1910 Grayson County Plat Book >Do you have a listing for a Noah M Spears, Nathan Spears? There might also be >a Finis Spears. Would like to know if there are other Spears also. > >Thanks, Donna Hanlon > >Are there any Hanlon's? > > >==== TXGRAYSO Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2001 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Search List Archives by keyword >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >Unsubscribe Request: TXGRAYSO-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >