Posted on: Gray Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Gray?read=14 Surname: Brown, Tibbetts ------------------------- In reference to Gray County marriage of Emily Ann Brown and W. M. Tibbetts in Gray County--"Gray County Texas Marriage Records 1902-1928", by Nix and Snell, 1994, does not list these people in its index. Obit for Emily Ann says that she was 88 when she died in 1962. Hence born ca. 1874. Also says that she had been in McLean since 1918. Wonder whether they had married before coming to Gray County. W. M. is buried in Hillcrest Cemetery in McLean as well, but the index only gives his burial date as 1936. So, cannot get his obit until I can get an exact date iof death from the courthouse.

LaRae, Thanks for the prompt action. Yes, I have been checking the TX records for Marriage, Divorce, Death and Births. Unfortunatley, after locating Kathrine Ann and William, I am not able to find any further information on the family. I did locate William Standish (3/3/1933) on the SS death index - he died in 1989 and I've written for more information. I've copied county seat addresses for Gray and Potter and will write inquires there also. Thanks again, don

Hi all, I'm forwarding this on to the list from our newest subscriber. Don, did you check the new Texas vital records links on the Gray County TXGenWeb page? If not, Texas birth, marriage, death, and divorce records may give you more information on the family. LaRae Gray County listmgr. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgray/ In a message dated 6/5/2000 7:35:24 PM PDT, DAStandish@aol.com writes: << I am looking for information on Charles Ralph and Margaret (O'Meara) STANDISH. They had two children in Texas: Katherine Ann STANDISH born in 1930 in Potter County, and.. William Sylvester STANDISH born 3/3/33 in Gray County. I found no other birth records in Gray/Potter Counties. Does anyone know of death records or marriage records (for Katherine Ann and William?) Thanks, Don Standish >>

What a great idea. My father, Clyde Hobart Carver, was born April 21, 1918. His family farmed on or near the county line between Donley and Gray counties. His two birth certificates show him as born in Clarendon and Alanreed. My GGrandfather, Austin Carver; GGrandmother, Catherine Carver; Grandfather, Earle William Carver, aka William Earle Carver; Grandmother, Myrtle Mae Phillips Carver; and other great aunts and uncles were also living in the area. I believe my Great Uncle Harrison Ford died in the flu epidemic in 1917 or 1918, and one or more of my Great aunts (Birdella, Irma, Grace or Lillian) died in child birth or in the epidemic. My grandfather left the area and went further east in Texas to the oil fields, where he formed a construction company to build firewalls (dikes) for the oil wells. He at some point formed a company with a Mr. Pinkerton, and they built roads and dams throughout Texas, Mississippi, Missouri and Oklahoma. Any information will be sincerely appreciated. Thank you, Clyda C. Carver

Hello listers. I grew up in Pampa, graduated high school in 1954, married Edward Prince, who owns/operates Crown Supply in Borger. My name is Joyce. My parents, Clara and Charles Pixler came to Pampa in 1930. They are both deceased. She 1980, he in 1976. They moved to TX from OK. My Aunt Minnie Jinks lived in Lefors until her husband, Tollie passed in 1970s. She died in 1980s. I think I still have a cousin in the area, don't know for sure. Bill Nabors and family. Connected Gray County Surnames and researching: PRINCE PIXLER NABORS SIMS WILLIAMSON Have a good day. J.Berry

Hi, GRAY County researchers! In order to find out who's out there, let's do June's Roll Call as a "sound off." This is a good way for you to find out who else is on the list, and maybe you'll find a cousin or two. Please take the time to respond to the roll call! The more responses there are, the better the results will be, and everyone benefits from the sharing of information. Use the following form by copying it and pasting it into your own message. Fill in your relevant information, leaving out birthdates of living persons. Include spouse names in the direct line, to clarify duplicate names. Post the form to the mailing list... TXGRAY-L@rootsweb.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name of earliest known GRAY County ancestor: His/her birthdate, approx. if unkn: His/her main location(s): DIRECT Descent, numbered 2, 3, etc. Other key surnames on your GRAY County family: Name: E-mail: Website URL: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Many thanks, everyone, for your continued participation and support, LaRae GRAY County list admin.

Hello everyone, Memorial Day is observed on the last Monday in May in the United States to honor the men and women who lost their lives during wartime, and to pay tribute to all those who served in the armed forces. On this Memorial Day weekend, as we remember our military service men and women, I would like to share with you a collection of military sites and searchable databases. I encourage you to post your findings on these sites to the list, and to also include any family you have in your own files who served in their countries' armed forces--whatever the country, and whatever the war. Take care, LaRae GRAY COUNTY, TX listmgr. - ------------------------------------------------------------- "LEST WE FORGET" They shall not grow old As we that are left grow old, Age shall not weary them Nor the years condemn At the going down of the sun, And in the morning, We will remember them. --from First World War days - ------------------------------------------------------------- World War I Civilian Draft Registration Database http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/search.cgi WWI Draft Registrations Query Board: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/WWI/Draft American WWI Mothers' Pilgrimage, 1930 http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4224.htm US military (colonial or modern) http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson14.htm Military matters anywhere else in the world, ancient or modern http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson13.htm Memorial Day: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/memorial.htm Military links: http://www.rootsweb.com/WWII/militarylinks.html WWII Stories: http://www.rootsweb.com/WWII/ Memorial Day Casualty Files http://www.mountaindragon.com/memorial/memorials.html The American Revolution http://www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/ The Civil War http://www.civilwar.com/ The Spanish American War http://www.spanam.simplenet.com/ "The Great War" http://www.pbs.org/greatwar/ Rutgers Oral History Archives of World War II http://history.rutgers.edu/oralhistory/orlhom.htm State-Level Casualty Lists for the Korean Conflict http://www.nara.gov/nara/electronic/kcasal.html Korean War Anniversary http://www.tcsaz.com/koreanwar.html State-Level Casualty Lists for the Vietnam Conflict http://www.nara.gov/nara/electronic/vcasal.html The Vietnam War Internet Project http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/shwv/shwvhome.html Operation Desert-Storm -- The Gulf War http://www.desert-storm.com/ Ancestry.com articles on Memorial Day topics... http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/george/939.asp http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/206.asp http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/george/872.asp http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/477.asp http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/1364.asp http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/198.asp - -------------------------------------------------------------

Hi folks, Rootsweb has given Texas researchers a wonderful set of searchable online records. I've had the greatest time looking up all the aunts, uncles, and cousins from over the past 75 years...thought you'd enjoy doing the same! I've also included the WORLD WAR I CIVILIAN DRAFT REGISTRATION database. It is an ongoing project and not as yet complete, but I did find some family from Texas panhandle counties in the records. Have fun! LaRae GRAY COUNTY listmgr. - ----------------------------------------------------- The TEXAS DEATH RECORDS database contains 3,963,456 records reflecting 163,544 surnames of those who died in Texas during the period 1964 thru 1998. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi The TEXAS BIRTH GENERAL RECORDS database contains 3,211,268 records reflecting 164,733 surnames of those who were born in Texas during the period 1926 thru 1949. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/birth/general/search.cgi The TEXAS BIRTH SUMMARY RECORDS database contains 11,974,269 records reflecting 308,979 surnames of those who were born in Texas during the period 1950 thru 1995. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/birth/summary/search.cgi The TEXAS MARRIAGE RECORDS database contains 5,269,009 records of those who were married in Texas during the period 1966 thru 1997. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/marriage/search.cgi The TEXAS DIVORCE RECORDS database contains 2,543,376 records of those who were divorced in Texas during the period 1968 thru 1997. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/divorce/search.cgi ----------------------- The WORLD WAR I CIVILIAN DRAFT REGISTRATION database contains 1,215,381 records reflecting 141,114 surnames of all registrants born 1872-1900 from about 15% of U.S. counties. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/ ------------------------

Posted on: Gray Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Gray?read=13 Surname: McAdams ------------------------- I am searching for my G-Uncle, James Walter McAdams, last known to be in McLean,Gray Co.Texas. I believe he died in March 1930, Born: 1884, Hunt Co.Tx. Would like any information about him or any family members.. Thanks, Bobbie bjbayles@cs.com

Good Morning, Thank you for the kind comments on this series of articles. We spend most of our time following our surnames back one generation after another, so it was good to stop for a while and consider the Mothers in our Family Tree. It has encouraged me to revisit several maternal lines I had put on the back burner...hope it has done the same for you! Have a great day, LaRae ------------------------ Seven Steps for Researching Female Ancestors by Sharon DeBartolo Carmack, CGRS, FUGA - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Seven Steps for Researching Female Ancestors 1. Start your search by focusing on the woman herself, obtaining all the records you can which she created or which were created about her. 2. Next, broaden your research scope to her immediate family. 3. Now broaden your research even more and look at her neighbors, friends, and relatives. Look carefully at records created by relatives and friends. Women of the past generally spent more time in the company of other women than with men. Perhaps a female friend or relative left information about your female ancestor in a surviving letter or diary. 4. Also look at her husband's associates: classmates, business partners, friends. Some of these people could be your female ancestor's relatives. 5. Leave no record unturned. Check all possible types of records for the time and place of your female ancestor. You never know which record will reveal a clue or piece of information. 6. Traditional genealogical records will only take you so far. Expand your horizons and read women's social histories -- these fill in the gaps left by genealogical documents and help you augment the data. Social historians research many of the same record sources as genealogists -- wills, court records, land and tax records -- but historians focus on an entire community rather than on specific individuals. This research yields information about the typical daily life in a given community. You can find social histories in public libraries, university libraries, and new and used bookstores. Here are a couple of examples: Nancy (Donnally) Bane (1819-1903) was institutionalized in a state insane asylum in Ohio during the 1860s. I learned this information from census records and a special census enumeration. To learn what this experience must have been like for Nancy, I read a social history called Women of the Asylum: Voices from Behind the Walls, 1840-1945. It had firsthand accounts of women like Nancy who were committed to asylums. Lucy (Stuart) Shough (1817-1887) was a housewife in Virginia. Genealogical records on her are scarce. Just about everything I know about Lucy came from census records, where her occupation is "keeping house." To learn about her probable daily activities, I consulted a social history entitled Never Done: A History of American Housework. This book details typical household chores of the nineteenth century. Placing your female ancestors into historical perspective by reading social histories of the time and circumstances can add a whole new dimension to your research. There are social histories for nearly every type of woman (rich, poor, white, black, Native American) and every time period conceivable. Women's periodicals from yesteryear are also worth investigating. Godey's Lady's Book, a monthly women's magazine, was started in 1837 and had a national circulation of 150,000 by 1860. Godey's featured articles on fashion, homemaking, and health, as well as presenting fiction, poetry, and recipes. The more emancipated woman of the 1860s might well have read the weekly newsletter Revolution, which covered fashion, food, health, work, unions, women in trades and professions, and notable women. 7. Don't get discouraged. Researching women takes time, patience, and creativity. Every woman's life is important to research, document, and write about. Your female ancestors wait silently for you to discover their stories. By listening to their histories and the records, they will tell you who they were and where to find them! ================================= A Recipe for Family History by Alyssa Hickman Grove - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Writer and historian Laurel Thatcher Ulrich writes about the idea of tracing "female inheritance through recipes." Its an interesting thought, although she finds it has its flaws, as you'll see when you read her story, "Danish Pancakes." However, family recipes certainly have a connection to family history. A simple (and often-told) story about pot roast started me thinking about this connection. In the story, a young bride is preparing pot roast for dinner. Her husband watches as she carefully cuts each end off the roast before putting it in the roasting pan and placing it in the oven. "Why did you cut the ends off the roast?" he asks. "I don't know," she replies, "that's just the way my mother taught me." The next time the young woman talks to her mother, she asks about trimming the ends off the pot roast. "I don't know why," her mother answers, "but that's how your grandmother always did it." On a visit to her grandmother, the young woman asks about the pot roast. "Oh," replies the grandmother, "I had to do that simply because my roasting pan was too small to fit an entire roast." Grandma's answer explains the mysterious "cut off the ends" tradition. It also raises the question, Why didn't Grandma have a larger pan? The answer is probably simple enough -- perhaps she just never bothered to buy a larger one. On the other hand, a family historian with an active imagination might indulge in a slew of fanciful questions: Were Grandma and her husband too poor to afford new pots and pans? Could they only afford a small home with a tiny kitchen and scanty cupboard space? Had they been forced to jettison a lot of household goods to travel to America or across the plains? Granted, these questions take a sizable leap from the starting point of the pot roast story. But they do illustrate how details of a family's history can be linked to what, and how, a family cooks. >From Cookbook to Novel Handed-down recipes in a family often have stories associated with them which add richness to a family history. These recipes and stories can make your family history more vivid. Just ask Janice Woods Windle, the author of True Women, a historical novel based on the lives of her ancestors. Windle started out with the intention of compiling family recipes as a wedding gift for her son and his bride-to-be in 1985. But as she pored over piles of recipes, letters, and diaries, she pieced together a fascinating story. Not long after presenting her son with the recipe book, she borrowed it from him so she could use it while writing True Women, a novel chronicling the lives of three generations of her family in Texas, from the fall of the Alamo to the Second World War. Initially, Windle thought that her mother, a former schoolteacher and historian, would be more involved in writing the family story. But her mother kept urging her to write episodes, "And over the course of six years, it just kind of escalated." Windle says she eventually chose the historical novel format, rather than a traditional family history, so that she could write dialogue and "capture the melody of the women's voices." Runaway Wedding Cake True Women was published in 1993. Twelve years after getting the idea to compile the recipe book, Windle finally had time to produce the True Women Cookbook, published this year. The Cookbook is full of stories about Texas history and about Windle's family and forebears, and features such recipes as "Reverend Potter's Hellfire and Brimstone Chili," "Every-Sunday-After-Church Chicken," and "Runaway Wedding Cake" (a cake prepared for an ancestor's elopement). Windle says she discovered a lot about her relatives by looking at their recipes: "Women write around the margins of a recipe, making notes, mentioning events where the dish was served -- baptisms, family reunions, and so forth -- so you can really track a woman's life through her recipes." While she was researching her ancestors' cookbooks, Windle was struck by the way the women had taken responsibility for their families' well-being. She found notations such as "Peter is allergic to pecans" and "this soup sustained Bettie through her long illness." When asked what advice she would give others who are interested in compiling a family history or recipe book, Windle says she feels its important to involve children in the process, to teach them about their lineage. She also recommends recording stories that you've heard, then recording interviews with family members. Taking along old photographs, Windle says, may help jog an older relative's foggy memory. Bathtub Gravy There are those who haven't felt compelled to pen a sweeping historical novel inspired by the lives of their forebears, but simply wanted to preserve family recipes for posterity; this is what my mother and her sister decided to do. They conceived of compiling a family recipe book to give to each of their families as a Christmas present. Thus began the arduous task of going over their own recipes, as well as the recipes that my grandmother, who passed away a few years ago, had left behind. The long and involved process produced a welcome gift: Our families now have a cookbook that includes all the family favorites, many of which have been handed down from my great-grandmother to my grandmother, to my mother and aunt. My family's English heritage is evident in such recipes as Yorkshire pudding, plum pudding, and mustard pickles. My great-grandmother passed along her recipes for homemade bread, roast beef, and gravy (the gravy was always a favorite, and the family joke was that it was made in the bathtub to make sure there would be enough to meet the demand). My great-grandmother's parents were early settlers in Utah, and the necessity of laying in provisions for the winter was reflected in Great-Grandma Carrie's penchant for canning and preserving. My mother remembers the delights contained in Carrie's fruit room: jars and jars of peaches, cherries, and raspberries. Today my mother and aunt still use Carrie's recipes for making home-canned peaches and chili sauce. An Heirloom in the Making sometimes a family recipe book doesn't necessarily contain handed-down recipes, but recipes that will be handed down to future generations. Ken and Connie Bean married later in life, combining their families from their previous marriages. When they created a family cookbook, they included recipes that both sets of children had learned to love, and then personalized the book with inspirational thoughts and quotations for their children to pass down through the family. There are as many ways to preserve a collection of family recipes and traditions as there are families. If you want to create an heirloom recipe book, think about including these elements in it: --Original handwritten recipe cards --Stories telling how certain recipes came into the family --Anecdotes about which recipes were family favorites --Photographs of ancestors --Stories about ancestors Janice Woods Windle cherishes a steamed pudding recipe given to her by her beloved grandmother-in-law, and talks about families becoming close through the sharing of recipes. My mother puts it this way: "Food, what we eat, what we cook, is the core in so many families." ==================================== >From the Ancestry.com Newsletter.... ARTICLES FOR TRACING THE MOMS IN YOUR FAMILY TREE "One Crimson Petticoat: Female Lines and Real Lives," by Yvonne P. Divak Part 1 -- http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/600.asp Part 2 -- http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/623.asp Part 3 -- http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/650.asp Part 4 -- http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/744.asp Seven Steps for Researching Female Ancestors by Sharon DeBartolo Carmack, CGRS, FUGA http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/756.asp "A Recipe for Family History," by Alyssa Hickman Grove http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/ancmag/712.asp - -------------------------------------------------------------------------

One Crimson Petticoat: Female Lines and Real Lives -- Part 3 -- Yvonne P. Divak --------------------------- Another source of information is the obituary. There is an old saying that a lady's name appeared in the public newspaper only twice: once when she married and once when she died. This saying applied to most of the women of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. Some women did not make it even then. In order to use effectively an obituary, you have to know the death date of you subject or, at least, the year in which she died. If her husband was famous, her name can usually be located in newspapers other than those of her hometown. An example is Maria Ketchum Walworth (1795-1847). Her husband, Reuben H. Walworth (1788-1867), was the last chancellor of New York State. Mrs. Walworth died in Saratoga Springs, New York; however, this short obituary appeared in the New York "Municipal Gazette," 30 June 1847: Departed this life at Saratoga Springs, on the 24th of April, Mrs. Maria Ketchum, wife of Chancellor Walworth, aged 51. Upon her dying bed she bore the most decided testimony of the truth of the Christians' hope; her Saviour sustained her, and her end was peace. But, you might argue, and with some reason, this obituary does not really say anything at all. Take a closer look. Mrs. Walworth was a lady. A true lady of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries had no career--no life, actually, outside of her home and family. This obituary, besides giving us Mrs. Walworth's maiden name, death date, place of death, age at death, husband's name, and occupation, also tells us that she was religious, and that she sought to teach those around her at the end the "right" way to die--just as a proper wife and mother was supposed to. Unfortunately, if you are searching for a poor woman or for one who is Native American or Black, your chances of finding an obituary are very slim. This also tells us something of the culture and environment in which these women lived. If a white, wealthy, woman was "invisible" to the public, save on very special occasions such as marriage and death, the poor, the Black, and the Native American never appeared at all. These women are the hardest to locate. If your male subject owned property and died before his wife, you might try the dower records. A dower gave the widow a lifetime right to one-third of her husband's property, which, you might recall, may have belonged to her in the first place. When Gideon Putnam of Saratoga Springs, New York, died in 1812 from pneumonia at the age of forty-nine, he left a widow and nine children, ranging in ages from twenty-six to four-and-a-half years. He also left a substantial amount of real estate in and about Saratoga, which included a large house and two hotels or taverns. His wife, Doanda, sold the newer hotel, but kept the old Putnam Tavern as her dower right. For years, she and her sons conducted a very profitable business at what later became on of the most popular hotels in the United States. All right, you have tried just about everything: census records, wills, church records; obituaries--everything. But your subject was not rich, and she did not come from New England. In fact, she was a black slave who lived on some plantation in southern Georgia sometime between the Revolution and the Civil War. Give up? Of course not. First, learn all you can about the state of Georgia. From where did these planters import their slaves? The foreign slave trade was prohibited by the U.S. Constitution in 1807; but it was done secretly right up to the beginning of the Civil War. Many Georgia planters obtained their new slaves from Virginia, which served as a "breeding ground" for the rest of the South. Learn about these plantations. How large were they? What kind of crops did they raise? What was the general treatment of slaves? You may never actually locate your ancestor or subject; however, you will gain an insight into the type of life that she led. And do not discount your relatives. Very often, stories handed down from one generation to another, those legends that an older relative tells you, probably have kernels of truth hidden in them--clues that may lead you directly to your own ancestor. Remember, that is how Alex Haley got started. ================================================= One Crimson Petticoat: Female Lines and Real Lives, Part 4 – Yvonne P. Divak - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Eat the foods that your subject may have eaten. Listen to the stories told in the language that she spoke. Sing the songs that she sang. Did she speak the lilting English one finds in the King James Bible? Or did she speak Gaelic, or German, or Italian, or Oglala Sioux? Did she live on the Great Plains or in Boston? Was she a "lady" who hired other people to work for her, or did she labor on a farm, or in a cotton mill, or on a plantation? Did she live to be one hundred, or did she die at thirty? Names are important. Our names separate us from other people. My name is a part of who I am. But do not forget your subject's "spirit." After all, if she is your ancestor, a part of her still lives within you. Try to see her life as she would have seen it. If your female ancestor was a pioneer in the early American wilderness, think about what this must have meant to her: To be left alone, surrounded by the darkness and wild animals, with only a candle to offer light and only a fragile log cabin to keep her safe from the dangers without. Often these women were left alone for days at a time as their husbands went hunting or off to war. The movie, "Drums Along the Mohawk," gives an excellent portrayal of the growth of a pioneer woman--from a dependent, frightened girl to a seasoned woman, filled with quiet strength and determination. Could she have been your ancestor? If you can find you female ancestor's full name, congratulations. You are one of the lucky ones. You can now go back or forward to another generation. But if you cannot find her full name; if you cannot find much, or any, information about her, don't despair. Think of this name as a real person, and try to put yourself into her situation--a reversal of genes, if you will. A short time ago, I came across the inventory of one Mary McDonald, who died about 1824 or early 1825 in the town of Ballston, Saratoga County, New York. I have no idea how old she was or what she looked like. I think she was married to Michael McDonald, an early pioneer of the area who died about two years prior to her own death. But I am not certain. Her inventory was finished in April of 1825 and contained three, neatly written pages of articles that she had owned, debts she had owed, and money owed to her. She does not seem to have been a poor woman. I recall reading down the lists of "Personal Property" in a casual way--I have read hundreds of these things, and usually they are rather dry. "One Beadstead [sic] and Chord. Two old Callico [sic] Quilts." Yes, yes, I thought. Nothing new here. "2 Flannel Shirts. 1 Red and Blew [sic] Plaid Gown. 1 Crimson Petticoat . . ." Whoa! The nameless subject that had appeared to me in shades of pedestrian grey, suddenly took on a new personality. It seems that Mrs. Mary McDonald also owned "1 Scarlet Cloak." Did she wear the cloak when she wore her crimson petticoat? Did her eyes twinkle when she walked down the street? Did she deliberately lift her skirts, just a little, in order to show off her bright undergarment? Ah, Mary, I wish I could have known you better. I wish I could have met you. Despite legal opinion, despite lingering beliefs, the women of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries were not nameless, faceless, invisible shadows. They were people with real fears and real loves, with real lives. And, as you can see, some of them did sparkle. ==============================================

Hello all, As genealogists, Mother's Day also means we focus on our Maternal Lines...8-) Many years ago, an elderly lady told me that the only real challenge left to those who have been doing this a while is to trace the Mothers...and their Mothers...and...you get the picture! To honor the memory of all the women whose strength and love and dedication nurtured the families we research, I'm going to send you three posts over the next three days that will give some new insights into tracing our Maternal Lines. Each post will contain two of a series of articles from the newsletter put out by the Ancestry.com folks. Hope you enjoy them! LaRae GRAY COUNTY listmgr. ------------- One Crimson Petticoat: Female Lines and Real Lives - Part 1 – Yvonne P. Divak _____________________ Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates. ----- Proverbs 31:31 Ranluff Glanville, chief justiciar in 1180, under King Henry II of England, is supposed to have written " . . . legally a woman is completely in the power of her husband . . . and his wife is bound to consent to this as to all other acts of his which do not offend against God . . . " If you think that American women have progressed well beyond this belief, think again. Not too long ago, I stood in a beautiful little cemetery in the town of Broadalbin, Fulton County, New York, copying interesting tombstones. A woman drove up, parked her car a few feet from me, and emerged with a pot of fresh, red geraniums in her hand. She very carefully proceeded down a long row of ancient tombstones, some of which were so weathered that it was impossible to read them. Halting before one near the end of the row, she paused, then placed her offering at the base of the stone. "My great-great-great grandfather," the woman told me proudly. "He was in the Revolution." "Really?" was my sage reply. The woman continued to gaze reverently at the ancient stone for a few more minutes, then entered her car and drove away. Somewhat later, as I admired the flowers, it occurred to me that the woman had neglected to place any flowers at the base of her great-great-great grandmother's grave, which was to the right of the man's. Born in 1756, this woman too had lived during the American Revolution. Though she hadn't carried a musket or fired a cannon, perhaps she had made bandages for the wounded, or perhaps, as many women did, she made sure that the crops were harvested and that the stock was fed while her husband was off fighting the British. Perhaps she had lived at the very edge of eighteenth-century civilization and had had to look constantly over her shoulder for hostile Indians. Was she not a veteran too? Unfortunately, no one seemed to be heeding the brief motto at the base of her tombstone: "When this you see remember me." Nothing in American history seems so ethereal as the married woman of the seventeenth, eighteenth, and early nineteenth centuries. She literally disappears before your eyes into lists of "married women under 45," or she is named only as the "wife of . . . ." How many times have you searched cemeteries for the distaff side of your heritage, only to find a gravestone such as this one? Hannah Wife of Pilgrim Durkee Died Nov. 9 1841, In the 68 Year Of her age. Ah, Hannah! Where did you come from? What was your name before you married Mr. Durkee? Where were you born? At least the above stone does give you a clue as to the year in which she was born. Some stones of married women do not even do that. The main problem here is that when Hannah Whatever-Her-Maiden-Name-Was married Pilgrim Durkee, she became Hannah Durkee, and as far as the legal system of her time was concerned, she no longer existed. She could not sell any property she may have inherited from her father. That property now belonged to her husband to do with as he pleased. A married woman could not even sign a legal contract. When the great novelist Harriet Beecher Stowe was ready to publish her masterpiece, "Uncle Tom's Cabin," in 1853, her husband had to sign the contract with the publishers for her. Mrs. Stowe was forty-two years old at the time and the mother of six living children. But the law considered her to be invisible. So how can genealogists locate someone who is "invisible?" It is not easy. But it is not impossible. I have seen many researchers give up because they cannot locate a great-great-great grandmother's maiden name. The following article lists a few methods that I have tried over the years in search of the elusive American married female. The methods have not always been successful. Sometimes, I have run into stone walls. But, sometimes the methods do work. The important thing to remember here is not to give up. She is your ancestor too; and if she had given up, you would not be here today. =========================================== One Crimson Petticoat: Female Lines and Real Lives - Part 2 – Yvonne P. Divak __________________ According to "History of Saratoga County," by Nathaniel B. Sylvester, published in 1876, Seth Sadler was one of the first white settlers of present-day Saratoga Springs, New York, coming to the area after the close of the Revolution. In fact, the first burying ground in Saratoga Springs was on his land. Though later information indicates that Mr. Sadler fathered several children, no mention of Mrs. Sadler was made by Sylvester. This deliberate omission was quite common in the nineteenth-century histories--the invisible factor at work again. The 1820 federal census listed an Olive Sadler as a widow, living in Saratoga Springs. Were Seth and Olive married at one time? Were they even related? No wills, inventories, or dowers' rights existed--all of which, by the way, can be excellent sources. This was clearly a puzzle. Looking for something else one day, I came across a short article that stated that a William Sadler was "descended from Revolutionary War veterans." No one that I can recall had ever mentioned that Seth Sadler was a Revolutionary War veteran. However, he was a mature adult in the 1780s as was Olive Sadler. It was certainly worth looking into. The Daughters of the American Revolution have published literally hundreds of volumes concerning the veterans of the Revolutionary War, cemetery records, Bible records, pension records, and short biographies of veterans including their military service, their wives' names, and sometimes, lists of other family members. I looked, and not only did I find that Olive was indeed Seth's wife, but that her maiden name was Battle, that she and Seth had married in 1774, and that Olive had died in 1823. (Seth's death date was unknown, but he had preceded Olive by at least three years.) Even if you doubt that your male subject was a veteran of the Revolution--even if you have never heard of any service--give it a try. Even a brief stint in the local militia qualifies as military service. You might find him listed in among the veterans and his wife right beside him. Clues that are too often overlooked are the names of children. Ellen Hardin (1832-1915) of Illinois and Kentucky, married Mansfield Walworth (1830-1873), of Saratoga Springs, in 1852. Of their eight children, three were given the middle name of Hardin. And their second son, John Hardin Walworth (1855-1862), bore the name of Ellen's father, John Hardin, who was killed in the Mexican War. This was also true for Doanda Risley Putnam (1768-1835), the wife of Gideon Putnam (1763-1812), another early settler of Saratoga Springs. She named her eldest son, Benjamin Risley Putnam (1788-1846), after her father. Risley became a popular name in the Putnam family and was used for several generations. Is there a name in your family that seems to have been handed down from the beginning of time? A name that no one can recall the origin? Perhaps, it is the maiden name of your long lost female ancestor. Cemeteries can also be valuable sources. Granted, one finds far too many, "Mary, wife of . . . " tombstones; but, occasionally, gold is struck. Remember poor Hannah, wife of Pilgrim Durkee? Well, not far away from her tombstone is the following: In memory Eliza wife of George Finch and Daughter of Pilgrim & Hannah Durkee who Departed this life Feb. 6, 1831 in the 31 Year Of her age With this stone we have the subject's maiden name as well as her married name. As an added bonus, we have the names of both of her parents, so there can be no mistake when a search is made of her life history. The Scots-Irish, who settled the northern parts of Saratoga and Fulton (New York) counties just prior to the American Revolution, often included the maiden name of a married woman in the following fashion: In Memory of MARGRET KIER Wife of Patrick Rob Who departed this life July 28, 1832, in The 82 Year of her Age. She was a native Of Perthshire Scotland The above stone, located in a Perth (Fulton County), New York, cemetery is a great help, in that it provides very important information about this woman: her maiden name, her married name, the date of her death, her age at death, and her birthplace. Armed with all of this data, along with the fact, or at least the strong implication, that she died in or near Perth, New York, you cannot help but find something about her in a local obituary, will, or article. Mrs. Margret Kier Rob is no longer invisible. Here is another slightly different tombstone located in Greenridge Cemetery, Saratoga Springs, New York: Temperance Kempton Mother of Phebe Patten. Died: Jan. 10, 1853 Aged: 79 Years. >From this stone, we receive some "roundabout" information. Phebe Patten was originally Phebe Kempton, unless, and watch out for this one, her mother had married again after Phebe's birth. Second and third marriages can be real headaches for any genealogist. The term "tied in knots" comes to mind. All I can suggest for anyone caught in this situation is to move very slowly. --------------

Posted on: Gray Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Gray?read=12 Surname: Graham ------------------------- BERRY GEROMY GRAHAM married HULDA MAE RICHARDSON in Grayson Co., Texas March 16, 1872. Looking for any information about the parents of Hulda Mae. Believe her family was living in Grayson County at the time but have had no luck making the connection. She Had a brother named RILEY RICHARDSON and one called "DOC". Doc may be a nickname. All help greatly appreciated. Brenda Ward raven@pldi.net

A.D. CONDLEY/CONLEY/CONNELLY and Mary PRICE, 1840's-1860's ? Giles CO, TN >TX>... USA Looking for information on Archibald ("A.D.")** CONDLEY b. ca 1817 and Mary PRICE b. ca 1820, daughter of James & Mary PRICE, SC>VA>TX>USA .. who married in Giles CO., TN and later moved to Texas.. Archibald CONDLEY is listed in the 1840 Census of Giles CO. TN, son of my 3rd gr. grandfather Anderson CONDLEY Additional family information follows, along with web sites, please contact me if you have any questions, or wish to exchange information.. Web sites and other Surnames listed at the end of message.. THANK YOU .. Debbie... dkwmsg@aol.com or CondleySearch@aol.com ****************************************************** CONDLEY-CONLEY-CONNALLY-CONLEE-CONNELY SEARCHING FOR all ancestors and lost cousins. William CONNELLY or CONDLEY Anderson CONDLEY.. b. 1792 Halifax, VA d. 1838 Giles Co. TN>..USA The first International CONDLEY Family Reunion to be held October 7, 2000 in Hector, Arkansas WILLIAM CONDLEY or CONNELLY from Ireland >> AND Anderson CONDLEY (b.1792 VA, d.1838 TN), m. 22 Nov 1813 Catherine COBB (b. 1785 Halifax Co. VA, d. 1838 Giles Co. TN)*1. Children: William Robert, Elisha Thomas, Sarah, ** Archibald D (A.D.) m. Mary PRICE., E.D., Beverley. May have been more children..... still looking.. Robert William CONDLEY (b. 1810-1824 TN, d. 1910 AR) married Susan Jane WARREN (b. 1827 Giles CO. TN, d. 1910 Pope Co. AR)*2. Children: Stephen M. (m. Molly HOLLOWAY), Robert Mc Fadden, William Drury, Jane (m. COBB), Maggie (m. John W. MORROW), Elizabeth Catherine "Lizzie" (m. Amos "A.B." HOLLOWAY) John, Max or Mark, Bill Jr. William Anderson CONDLEY (b. 1881 AR, m. 14 Jul 1917 MO, d. 1957 OK) married Zella Myrtle Richardson CONDLEY (b. 20 Mar 1894 d. 18 Oct 1971, CA). m. 14 Jul 1917- Joplin, MO. Children: Boyd (d.1965), Floyd, Virginia Mae, Mary. Stephen M. CONDLEY (b. 1855 AR d. 19 Nov 1937 OR) married Mary Jayne "Mollie" HOLLOWAY (b. 14 Feb 1858 AR d. 23 Mar 1943 OR) m. 1881 Pope Co. AR. Children: William Anderson Condley, Rose Evelyn Condley, Virginia Mae Condley Rose Evelyn CONDLEY (b. 23 Dec 1883 AR, d. Mar 26, 1974 OR) married Charles Carlton BANDY (b. 12 Dec 1873 in Monroe Co. MS d. 2 Apr 1949). Children: 4 Virginia Mae CONDLEY (b. 31 Aug 1890 d. 19__? - Los Angeles, CA) m. 1908- Cecil VANDEGRIFT(b. 1895, d. 1962 CA ).. COBB/WARREN Robert COBB, (b. 1750 Halifax, VA d. 1822 Halifax, VA). m. Catherine LNU (parents of Catherine COBB *1) John J. WARREN (b. 1808 Williamson CO. TN, d. 1834 Pulaski, TN) married Sarah Cobb in 1824. Sarah b. 24 Jan 1809. (parents of Susan Jane WARREN *2) BANDY-GUTHRIE-HAAS -PHIPPS Parents of Charles C. BANDY were Samuel A. BANDY and Delilah BLACK (MS). Siblings of Charles C. BANDY: James, William, Rosie, Lema, Harry, Susan, Lulu, Sarah, Gabe, Joseph, Mary) Henry BANDY (b. 1901 OK d.-1951) m. Dolores HAAS (1914- d.1997, Van Nuys CA). HARRELL-HARREL-HOLLOWAY-RICHARDSON Matilda CARTER (1800's..TN) and Richard HARRELL (1800's TN). children: Billie Richard, Thomas, Willie, Ida Lee. Thomas died in his 30's. George Allen RICHARDSON (b. 2 Dec 1857, d. 1927).. was born in Missouri.. and Ida Lee HARRELL (b. 31 Aug 1867 TN, d. 8 Jul 1946 OK) children: Zella Myrtle, Maggie. They lived in IL-MO-AR-OK, and both died in Heavener, OK. The RICHARDSON family may have had a plantation in TN. Elizabeth Catherine "Lizzie" CONDLEY (b. 1871, d. 1922-1931 OK) and Amos HOLLOWAY (b. Feb 1864 TN). m. 11 Jun 1886. children: Nettie Jane (b. 1888 ARK, m. JOHNSON), Walter Stephen (b. 7 Jun 1894), Harry Homer (b. 1899, d. 1986 CA), Rosie (b. 1905. m. KESTER, d. 1982), Lylian (b. 1908), Andrew "Drew" (b. 1903 ARK, m. Belle CARTER, d. 1985 CA). 1 child: Gladys ? Please visit our CONDLEY Web Sites anytime.. <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/GlockerCondley/WebIndexPage.html">Condle y Family Site #1</A> http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/GlockerCondley/WebIndexPage.html <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/a/m/Debra-K-Walker/index.html">Co ndley FTM by Debbie</A> http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/a/m/Debra-K-Walker/index.html <A HREF="http://www.hometown.aol.com/dkwmsg/myhomepage/heritage.html">Condley Family.. So Cal</A> http://hometown.aol.com/dkwmsg/myhomepage/heritage.html SURNAMES: CONDLEY, CONLEY, CONLEE, CONNELLY, CONNALLY, BANDY, BECK, CALHOUN, CARTER, CHRONISTER, CHURCHMAN, COBB, COBBS, EDDY, LOCKER, GUTHRIE, HARREL, HARRELL, HALLOWAY, HOLLOWAY, LANGE, LOGAN, MANESS, MEREDITH, MORRIS, MORROW, NEWTON, PHIPPS, PRICE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDSON, SMITH, TUNE, VANDERGRIFF, VANDEGRIFT, WALKER, WARREN, WILLIAMS, WORTMAN, ZEDIKER 1700's..-present. County Cork- Ireland > Halifax VA or NC> Giles TN>TX> MO>KY>AR>OK>UT>CO>CA>OR- USA >From the Desk of: Debbie...California.. U.S.A. . Email : dkwmsg@aol.com or CondleySearch@aol.com Fax: 1-561-258-0537

Posted on: Gray Co. Tx Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/Gray?read=11 Surname: Nolen, Moore, Rider, Johnson, Monroe, Diggs ------------------------- Searching for family members of Hugh Jerome Nolen born March 15, 1872 in Eastland County Texas died September 19, 1937 in Pampa Texas. Romilda Martha Moore Nolen was born January 20, 1879 in Canton, Van Zandt County, Texas. Romilda died November 3, 1965 in Pampa, Gray County Texas Their children: Carl Homer married Mollie Lee Monroe Faye..Vernah Faye married Artist Elmer Monroe Cleo Naomi married Thomas Paul Johnson Hubert Condy marrried Thelma Zecha Ruby Lee married John Allen "Sparky" Rider

Hallowed Ground - Alanreed rancher rescues graveyard from prairie http://amarillonet.com/stories/032600/tex_hallowed.shtml Hi all, I heard on one of my family mailing lists today about a great article in this morning's Amarillo Globe-News. It tells the story of an Alanreed man who is restoring a prairie graveyard that is over 100 years old. He has researched some of the people who are buried there and is attempting to re-erect some of the markers. He has also organized an effort to get a fence placed around it. Cemetery preservation has become a major concern as more and more of our old family burying grounds are being bulldozed over with little or no thought given to historical significance. Take a minute or two and read this interesting article on Delbert Trew's efforts to save the Eldridge Cemetery! Thanks, LaRae

I'll give it a try. Thank you

Hi, You might try contacting the Pampa School District to see if they will give you any information on your aunt. Switchboard.com shows them at.... Pampa School District Adm 321 W Albert St, Pampa, TX 79065-7801 Phone: (806)669-4700 Good Luck, LaRae In a message dated 3/20/2000 11:45:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Falcon5146@aol.com writes: << I am also new to your list and am interested in locating an aunt. I know very little about her but understand she taught in Pampa for some years before becoming ill with TB. Her name was Eddie Mae Graham. Any information you may have that you want to share would be appreciated. >>

I am also new to your list and am interested in locating an aunt. I know very little about her but understand she taught in Pampa for some years before becoming ill with TB. Her name was Eddie Mae Graham. Any information you may have that you want to share would be appreciated.

The High School I attended was not down town. It was in the west part of town. The old Jr. High School was down town. We used to go to a hot dog place for lunch. They were not especially good, just cheap. Cost 5 cents each. Hamburgers were 10 cents. My family was Pixler. I married a Prince. still researching the Prince side for my kids. Thanks