Good point, Sue. And the paid subscription sites are using all the information that once was available free from the Texas Department of Health. Those records were removed from the Internet by the state but then they sold the info on CD's. How does that protect anyone?   Shirley --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Sue Tackel <sue@wisecountytexas.info> wrote: From: Sue Tackel <sue@wisecountytexas.info> Subject: Re: [TXGEN] TX Public Information Act To: txgen@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 12:32 PM     We have come up against that Identity Theft problem here in Wise County. (Should be public information after - 75 years for Birth Records, and 25 years for Death Records) - (See text and link below for TX Public Information Act)     What about births and obituaries in the local papers. ????? Sue Text of the Texas Public Information Act http://www.oag.state.tx.us/AG_Publications/txts/2004publicinfohb_3_01.shtml § 552.115. Exception: Birth and Death Records (a) A birth or death record maintained by the bureau of vital statistics of the Texas Department of Health or a local registration official is excepted from the requirements of Section 552.021, except that: (1) a birth record is public information and available to the public on and after the 75th anniversary of the date of birth as shown on the record filed with the bureau of vital statistics or local registration official; (2) a death record is public information and available to the public on and after the 25th anniversary of the date of death as shown on the record filed with the bureau of vital statistics or local registration official; (3) a general birth index or a general death index established or maintained by the bureau of vital statistics or a local registration official is public information and available to the public to the extent the index relates to a birth record or death record that is public information and available to the public under Subdivision (1) or (2); (4) a summary birth index or a summary death index prepared or maintained by the bureau of vital statistics or a local registration official is public information and available to the public; and (5) a birth or death record is available to the chief executive officer of a home-rule municipality or the officer's designee if: (A) the record is used only to identify a property owner or other person to whom the municipality is required to give notice when enforcing a state statute or an ordinance; (B) the municipality has exercised due diligence in the manner described by Section 54.035(e), Local Government Code, to identify the person; and (C) the officer or designee signs a confidentiality agreement that requires that: (i) the information not be disclosed outside the office of the officer or designee, or within the office for a purpose other than the purpose described by Paragraph (A); (ii) the information be labeled as confidential; (iii) the information be kept securely; and (iv) the number of copies made of the information or the notes taken from the information that implicate the confidential nature of the information be controlled, with all copies or notes that are not destroyed or returned remaining confidential and subject to the confidentiality agreement. (b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a), a general birth index or a summary birth index is not public information and is not available to the public if: (1) the fact of an adoption or paternity determination can be revealed by the index; or (2) the index contains specific identifying information relating to the parents of a child who is the subject of an adoption placement. (c) Subsection (a)(1) does not apply to the microfilming agreement entered into by the Genealogical Society of Utah, a nonprofit corporation organized under the laws of the State of Utah, and the Archives and Information Services Division of the Texas State Library and Archives Commission. (d) For the purposes of fulfilling the terms of the agreement in Subsection (c), the Genealogical Society of Utah shall have access to birth records on and after the 50th anniversary of the date of birth as shown on the record filed with the bureau of vital statistics or local registration official, but such birth records shall not be made available to the public until the 75th anniversary of the date of birth as shown on the record. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Cullum" <shirlcullum@sbcglobal.net> To: <txgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [TXGEN] Files are in the Archives Dorman, Some birth, death, and census files are gone from some county Archives at the new Archives site. I was told this was due to identity theft issues by the county file manager. Shirley --- On Mon, 4/6/09, txarchives@mac.com <txarchives@mac.com> wrote: From: txarchives@mac.com <txarchives@mac.com> Subject: [TXGEN] Files are in the Archives To: txgen@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:44 AM The Archives files that Shirley has a question about being removed are the old Rootsweb.Ancestry.com files in Texas. They are now all gone. The CCs need to update their links to the Texas Archives page instead of individual files in the archives. The new link to the census pages in question is: http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/census/ Everyone needs to ensure your links to the Archives pages are correct. http://www.usgwarchives.net/tx/managers.htm Dorman Holub: txarchives@mac.com Texas Archives State File Manager: http://usgwarchives.net/tx/txfiles.htm On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Shirley Cullum wrote: > Dorman Holub is checking with Linda and/or Joy to find out more > information for us. > > Shirley > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Vicki <wire@shaffer.com> wrote: > > > From: Vicki <wire@shaffer.com> > Subject: Re: [TXGEN] Fwd: [TXGW-NEWS] Files No Longer Available in > the Archives > To: txgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:19 AM > > > It could be that a file manager forgot to move the census files to new > server. But someone probably still has them on their computer and can > replace. > > Vicki > > > Shirley Cullum wrote: >> Nan, >> No, the files have been removed from the new Archives site >> and includes many Census files from the 1800's. >> >> Shirley >> >> >> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Nan <nstarjak@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Nan <nstarjak@gmail.com> >> Subject: [TXGEN] Fwd: [TXGW-NEWS] Files No Longer Available in the >> Archives >> To: txgen@rootsweb.com >> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:04 AM >> >> >> Shirley. >> >> Could these be links to the old archives files on rootsweb? Those >> have been deleted (at long last), since everything should be on >> www.usgwarchives.net since last year. >> >> There may have been some vital records deleted from the current site, >> but I'm not aware of any wholesale deletions of other types of files. >> >> Nan >> (who also works in the archives) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: <shirlcullum@sbcglobal.net> >> Date: Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:50 PM >> Subject: [TXGW-NEWS] Files No Longer Available in the Archives >> To: "TXGW-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com" <TXGW-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Hi Everyone, >> Tonight I found that many of the files in the Archives for >> some >> of our counties have been removed. The removed files include all >> types >> of records, births, deaths, cemeteries, biographies...and the list >> goes on. >> >> I contacted a couple of Archives managers and they confirmed that >> some >> files have been removed. That leads me to be concerned that more >> counties will be affected in the near future. >> >> Please check your links to individual files in the Archives for your >> county to see if your county is affected. I would even suggest that >> you link only to the county and state Archives rather than individual >> files since they may be removed. >> >> Here are a couple of free programs for checking for dead links: >> Xenu http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html >> And for those who would rather use a link checker that doesn't have >> to >> be downloaded, here is a link to Dead-Links.com >> http://www.dead-links.com/ . >> >> Please let me know if I can help in any way. >> >> Shirley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGW-NEWS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They were removed because the State forgot to take the adoptee's names off the records they let out. Then that was fixed and it was let out again. On 4/6/09, Shirley Cullum <shirlcullum@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Good point, Sue. And the paid subscription sites are using all the > information that once was available free from the Texas Department of > Health. Those records were removed from the Internet by the state but then > they sold the info on CD's. How does that protect anyone? > > Shirley > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Sue Tackel <sue@wisecountytexas.info> wrote: > > > From: Sue Tackel <sue@wisecountytexas.info> > Subject: Re: [TXGEN] TX Public Information Act > To: txgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 12:32 PM > > >     We have come up against that Identity Theft problem here in Wise County. > (Should be public information after - 75 years for Birth Records, and 25 > years for Death Records) - (See text and link below for TX Public > Information Act) >     What about births and obituaries in the local papers. ????? > Sue > > Text of the Texas Public Information Act > http://www.oag.state.tx.us/AG_Publications/txts/2004publicinfohb_3_01.shtml > § 552.115. Exception: Birth and Death Records > (a) A birth or death record maintained by the bureau of vital statistics of > the Texas Department of Health or a local registration official is excepted > from the requirements of Section 552.021, except that: > (1) a birth record is public information and available to the public on and > after the 75th anniversary of the date of birth as shown on the record filed > with the bureau of vital statistics or local registration official; > (2) a death record is public information and available to the public on and > after the 25th anniversary of the date of death as shown on the record filed > with the bureau of vital statistics or local registration official; > (3) a general birth index or a general death index established or maintained > by the bureau of vital statistics or a local registration official is public > information and available to the public to the extent the index relates to a > birth record or death record that is public information and available to the > public under Subdivision (1) or (2); > (4) a summary birth index or a summary death index prepared or maintained by > the bureau of vital statistics or a local registration official is public > information and available to the public; and > (5) a birth or death record is available to the chief executive officer of a > home-rule municipality or the officer's designee if: > (A) the record is used only to identify a property owner or other person to > whom the municipality is required to give notice when enforcing a state > statute or an ordinance; > (B) the municipality has exercised due diligence in the manner described by > Section 54.035(e), Local Government Code, to identify the person; and > (C) the officer or designee signs a confidentiality agreement that requires > that: > (i) the information not be disclosed outside the office of the officer or > designee, or within the office for a purpose other than the purpose > described by Paragraph (A); > (ii) the information be labeled as confidential; > (iii) the information be kept securely; and > (iv) the number of copies made of the information or the notes taken from > the information that implicate the confidential nature of the information be > controlled, with all copies or notes that are not destroyed or returned > remaining confidential and subject to the confidentiality agreement. > (b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a), a general birth index or a summary birth > index is not public information and is not available to the public if: > (1) the fact of an adoption or paternity determination can be revealed by > the index; or > (2) the index contains specific identifying information relating to the > parents of a child who is the subject of an adoption placement. > (c) Subsection (a)(1) does not apply to the microfilming agreement entered > into by the Genealogical Society of Utah, a nonprofit corporation organized > under the laws of the State of Utah, and the Archives and Information > Services Division of the Texas State Library and Archives Commission. > (d) For the purposes of fulfilling the terms of the agreement in Subsection > (c), the Genealogical Society of Utah shall have access to birth records on > and after the 50th anniversary of the date of birth as shown on the record > filed with the bureau of vital statistics or local registration official, > but such birth records shall not be made available to the public until the > 75th anniversary of the date of birth as shown on the record. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Cullum" <shirlcullum@sbcglobal.net> > To: <txgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [TXGEN] Files are in the Archives > > > Dorman, > Some birth, death, and census files are gone from some county Archives at > the new Archives site. I was told this was due to identity theft issues by > the county file manager. > > Shirley > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, txarchives@mac.com <txarchives@mac.com> wrote: > > > From: txarchives@mac.com <txarchives@mac.com> > Subject: [TXGEN] Files are in the Archives > To: txgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:44 AM > > > The Archives files that Shirley has a question about being removed are > the old Rootsweb.Ancestry.com files in Texas. > They are now all gone. > > The CCs need to update their links to the Texas Archives page instead > of individual files in the archives. > > > The new link to the census pages in question is: > > http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/census/ > > > Everyone needs to ensure your links to the Archives pages are correct. > http://www.usgwarchives.net/tx/managers.htm > > > Dorman Holub: txarchives@mac.com > Texas Archives State File Manager: http://usgwarchives.net/tx/txfiles.htm > > > > On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Shirley Cullum wrote: > >> Dorman Holub is checking with Linda and/or Joy to find out more >> information for us. >> >> Shirley >> >> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Vicki <wire@shaffer.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Vicki <wire@shaffer.com> >> Subject: Re: [TXGEN] Fwd: [TXGW-NEWS] Files No Longer Available in >> the Archives >> To: txgen@rootsweb.com >> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:19 AM >> >> >> It could be that a file manager forgot to move the census files to new >> server. But someone probably still has them on their computer and can >> replace. >> >> Vicki >> >> >> Shirley Cullum wrote: >>> Nan, >>> No, the files have been removed from the new Archives site >>> and includes many Census files from the 1800's. >>> >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Nan <nstarjak@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Nan <nstarjak@gmail.com> >>> Subject: [TXGEN] Fwd: [TXGW-NEWS] Files No Longer Available in the >>> Archives >>> To: txgen@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:04 AM >>> >>> >>> Shirley. >>> >>> Could these be links to the old archives files on rootsweb? Those >>> have been deleted (at long last), since everything should be on >>> www.usgwarchives.net since last year. >>> >>> There may have been some vital records deleted from the current site, >>> but I'm not aware of any wholesale deletions of other types of files. >>> >>> Nan >>> (who also works in the archives) >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: <shirlcullum@sbcglobal.net> >>> Date: Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:50 PM >>> Subject: [TXGW-NEWS] Files No Longer Available in the Archives >>> To: "TXGW-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com" <TXGW-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com> >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> Tonight I found that many of the files in the Archives for >>> some >>> of our counties have been removed. The removed files include all >>> types >>> of records, births, deaths, cemeteries, biographies...and the list >>> goes on. >>> >>> I contacted a couple of Archives managers and they confirmed that >>> some >>> files have been removed. That leads me to be concerned that more >>> counties will be affected in the near future. >>> >>> Please check your links to individual files in the Archives for your >>> county to see if your county is affected. I would even suggest that >>> you link only to the county and state Archives rather than individual >>> files since they may be removed. >>> >>> Here are a couple of free programs for checking for dead links: >>> Xenu http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html >>> And for those who would rather use a link checker that doesn't have >>> to >>> be downloaded, here is a link to Dead-Links.com >>> http://www.dead-links.com/ . >>> >>> Please let me know if I can help in any way. >>> >>> Shirley >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TXGW-NEWS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Tammy Owen www.txgenweb5.org/txbastrop/bastrop.htm www.txgenweb2.org/txlee/lee.htm www.txgenweb6.org/txhemphill Selling Ebay items under the name of bastropcc - check me out