As a charter member of Footnote and a strong supporter of the site and the goals of it's founders, I am disgusted that they may be resorting to such tactics. I suspect you may have hit a glitch in the system because touting free access and then not giving it is not something remotely resembling their usual business philosophy as I understand it. I have written them a note letting them know that their site is asking for $ when the census is advertised for free for the month and saying "SHAME ON YOU" if that is their intent. It may be that they have not fully indexed the census yet...you used to be able to see how far along they were in the process...but they've changed their layout. I'll need to go dig and see if I can locate the information on the completeness of the index. I'm due to renew my subscription and am waiting to see what they have to say. Suzie TXFannin On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thank you, Bryant for checking into this more closely. > > Jo > > === > Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, > Honorary > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > From: Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > Access the 1930 Census > To: "Archives Discussion List" <archives@usgwarchives.net> > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:19 AM > > > > > > > > Thank you, Bryant for checking this out closer. > > Jo > > === > Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, > Honorary > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Bryant Walker <genealogy@bryantsweb.com> wrote: > > > From: Bryant Walker <genealogy@bryantsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > Access the 1930 Census > To: "'Archives Discussion List'" <archives@usgwarchives.net>, > kygen@rootsweb.com, "'IAGen-List'" <IAGEN@rootsweb.com>, > vagen@rootsweb.com, usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com, > wvarchives@lists.genealogenie.net, va-archives@lists.genealogenie.net > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:05 AM > > > > > > > > > I checked on this because it seemed to be too good to be true. It was > disappointing and was not a “free access” to the 1930 census. It is a > typical teaser offer which occurs so often. After you sign up and perform a > search, you get some real names, but you do not get all names. I searched a > parish in Louisiana where all of the Walkers are known to me in 1930. Not > all were presented in the search results, including my father and mother who > were not married yet. In addition, when you click on any of the names to > view the census image sheet and information, you get: > > “You need an All-Access Membership to view this image.” > Annual > Unlimited access to all images > Money-back guarantee > 1-800 phone support > $11.95/month > Monthly > Unlimited access to all images > > If you are just looking for names, this may be helpful. > > Bryant Walker > > > > > > > From: archives-bounces@usgwarchives.net [mailto: > archives-bounces@usgwarchives.net] On Behalf Of Alice Warner > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:04 AM > To: kygen@rootsweb.com; IAGen-List; vagen@rootsweb.com; > usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; Archives Discussion List ; > wvarchives@lists.genealogenie.net; va-archives@lists.genealogenie.net > Subject: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > Accessthe 1930 Census > > This looks like a good opportunity for any transcription minded individuals > that don't normally pay for access on the various sites.. > > Alice > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Footnote <thomasj@footnote-inc.com> > Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM > Subject: Now Your Family & Friends Can Access the 1930 Census > To: EmbryProject@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > 1930 Census Free > > Through the Month of August > > > > > Dear embryproject, > > Send to a Colleague > Use I Remember > The 1930 US Census is one of the most powerful resources available to > anyone who wants to learn more about their ancestors. > During the month of August, we're giving everyone free access to > Footnote.com's one-of-a-kind, interactive 1930 US Census. > With Footnote's interactive census, viewing, downloading and printing > images from the census are just the beginning. You can also add images and > comments, spotlight interesting finds, create pages for your ancestors and > tell their stories. > Let your family and friends know by simply forwarding this email to them or > by pointing them to www.footnote.com/1930census/. > The Footnote Team > > > > This email was sent to: EmbryProject@gmail.com > To avoid this email being sent to your junk mail folder, please add this > address (thomasj@footnote-inc.com) to your safe senders list. > © 2009 Footnote. All Rights Reserved. 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Susie, I received a personal message from Peter Drinkwater. It should be coming through the list soon. It was a glitch in the system and has now been fixed. Jo === Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, Honorary --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: From: Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TXGEN] FWD: A member that checked Re: 1930 Census To: txgen@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:28 AM As a charter member of Footnote and a strong supporter of the site and the goals of it's founders, I am disgusted that they may be resorting to such tactics. I suspect you may have hit a glitch in the system because touting free access and then not giving it is not something remotely resembling their usual business philosophy as I understand it. I have written them a note letting them know that their site is asking for $ when the census is advertised for free for the month and saying "SHAME ON YOU" if that is their intent. It may be that they have not fully indexed the census yet...you used to be able to see how far along they were in the process...but they've changed their layout. I'll need to go dig and see if I can locate the information on the completeness of the index. I'm due to renew my subscription and am waiting to see what they have to say. Suzie TXFannin On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thank you, Bryant for checking into this more closely. > > Jo > > === > Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, > Honorary > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > From: Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > Access the 1930 Census > To: "Archives Discussion List" <archives@usgwarchives.net> > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:19 AM > > > > > > > > Thank you, Bryant for checking this out closer. > > Jo > > === > Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, > Honorary > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Bryant Walker <genealogy@bryantsweb.com> wrote: > > > From: Bryant Walker <genealogy@bryantsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > Access the 1930 Census > To: "'Archives Discussion List'" <archives@usgwarchives.net>, > kygen@rootsweb.com, "'IAGen-List'" <IAGEN@rootsweb.com>, > vagen@rootsweb.com, usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com, > wvarchives@lists.genealogenie.net, va-archives@lists.genealogenie.net > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:05 AM > > > > > > > > > I checked on this because it seemed to be too good to be true. It was > disappointing and was not a “free access” to the 1930 census. It is a > typical teaser offer which occurs so often. After you sign up and perform a > search, you get some real names, but you do not get all names. I searched a > parish in Louisiana where all of the Walkers are known to me in 1930. Not > all were presented in the search results, including my father and mother who > were not married yet. In addition, when you click on any of the names to > view the census image sheet and information, you get: > > “You need an All-Access Membership to view this image.” > Annual > Unlimited access to all images > Money-back guarantee > 1-800 phone support > $11.95/month > Monthly > Unlimited access to all images > > If you are just looking for names, this may be helpful. > > Bryant Walker > > > > > > > From: archives-bounces@usgwarchives.net [mailto: > archives-bounces@usgwarchives.net] On Behalf Of Alice Warner > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:04 AM > To: kygen@rootsweb.com; IAGen-List; vagen@rootsweb.com; > usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; Archives Discussion List ; > wvarchives@lists.genealogenie.net; va-archives@lists.genealogenie.net > Subject: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > Accessthe 1930 Census > > This looks like a good opportunity for any transcription minded individuals > that don't normally pay for access on the various sites.. > > Alice > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Footnote <thomasj@footnote-inc.com> > Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM > Subject: Now Your Family & Friends Can Access the 1930 Census > To: EmbryProject@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > 1930 Census Free > > Through the Month of August > > > > > Dear embryproject, > > Send to a Colleague > Use I Remember > The 1930 US Census is one of the most powerful resources available to > anyone who wants to learn more about their ancestors. > During the month of August, we're giving everyone free access to > Footnote.com's one-of-a-kind, interactive 1930 US Census. > With Footnote's interactive census, viewing, downloading and printing > images from the census are just the beginning. You can also add images and > comments, spotlight interesting finds, create pages for your ancestors and > tell their stories. > Let your family and friends know by simply forwarding this email to them or > by pointing them to www.footnote.com/1930census/. > The Footnote Team > > > > This email was sent to: EmbryProject@gmail.com > To avoid this email being sent to your junk mail folder, please add this > address (thomasj@footnote-inc.com) to your safe senders list. > © 2009 Footnote. All Rights Reserved. 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Keep in mind that it may be they don't have a good soundex or search logic. When I can't find someone, I search for someone else in the household and typically find them and the associated family member. As I said, I have viewed several census images with my free account without any problems. Their web server performance seems to be suffering from overuse, though. I've had my search timed out often. I do like their person page feature, but it needs work. I still prefer the ancestry.com search engine and people finder, though I am having to pay for the data. Joe -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzie Henderson Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:29 AM To: txgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXGEN] FWD: A member that checked Re: 1930 Census As a charter member of Footnote and a strong supporter of the site and the goals of it's founders, I am disgusted that they may be resorting to such tactics. I suspect you may have hit a glitch in the system because touting free access and then not giving it is not something remotely resembling their usual business philosophy as I understand it. I have written them a note letting them know that their site is asking for $ when the census is advertised for free for the month and saying "SHAME ON YOU" if that is their intent. It may be that they have not fully indexed the census yet...you used to be able to see how far along they were in the process...but they've changed their layout. I'll need to go dig and see if I can locate the information on the completeness of the index. I'm due to renew my subscription and am waiting to see what they have to say. Suzie TXFannin
I'm seeing reports on other lists that, after an initial try, people are now being able to view the images for free. I suspect the site may have been overwhelmed by the response at first. I've been a Footnote member for a while, and I really doubt the problems were deliberate. Nan On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com>wrote: > As a charter member of Footnote and a strong supporter of the site and the > goals of it's founders, I am disgusted that they may be resorting to such > tactics. I suspect you may have hit a glitch in the system because touting > free access and then not giving it is not something remotely resembling > their usual business philosophy as I understand it. > > I have written them a note letting them know that their site is asking for > $ > when the census is advertised for free for the month and saying "SHAME ON > YOU" if that is their intent. > > It may be that they have not fully indexed the census yet...you used to be > able to see how far along they were in the process...but they've changed > their layout. I'll need to go dig and see if I can locate the information > on > the completeness of the index. > > I'm due to renew my subscription and am waiting to see what they have to > say. > > Suzie > TXFannin > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > Thank you, Bryant for checking into this more closely. > > > > Jo > > > > === > > Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, > > Honorary > > > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > From: Jo <bjcb@bellsouth.net> > > Subject: Re: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > > Access the 1930 Census > > To: "Archives Discussion List" <archives@usgwarchives.net> > > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Bryant for checking this out closer. > > > > Jo > > > > === > > Chahta Ohoyo Holahta, > > Honorary > > > > --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Bryant Walker <genealogy@bryantsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Bryant Walker <genealogy@bryantsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > > Access the 1930 Census > > To: "'Archives Discussion List'" <archives@usgwarchives.net>, > > kygen@rootsweb.com, "'IAGen-List'" <IAGEN@rootsweb.com>, > > vagen@rootsweb.com, usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com, > > wvarchives@lists.genealogenie.net, va-archives@lists.genealogenie.net > > Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked on this because it seemed to be too good to be true. It was > > disappointing and was not a “free access” to the 1930 census. It is a > > typical teaser offer which occurs so often. After you sign up and > perform a > > search, you get some real names, but you do not get all names. I > searched a > > parish in Louisiana where all of the Walkers are known to me in 1930. > Not > > all were presented in the search results, including my father and mother > who > > were not married yet. In addition, when you click on any of the names to > > view the census image sheet and information, you get: > > > > “You need an All-Access Membership to view this image.” > > Annual > > Unlimited access to all images > > Money-back guarantee > > 1-800 phone support > > $11.95/month > > Monthly > > Unlimited access to all images > > > > If you are just looking for names, this may be helpful. > > > > Bryant Walker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: archives-bounces@usgwarchives.net [mailto: > > archives-bounces@usgwarchives.net] On Behalf Of Alice Warner > > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:04 AM > > To: kygen@rootsweb.com; IAGen-List; vagen@rootsweb.com; > > usgenweb-discuss@rootsweb.com; Archives Discussion List ; > > wvarchives@lists.genealogenie.net; va-archives@lists.genealogenie.net > > Subject: [archives-Usgwarchives] Fwd: Now Your Family & Friends Can > > Accessthe 1930 Census > > > > This looks like a good opportunity for any transcription minded > individuals > > that don't normally pay for access on the various sites.. > > > > Alice > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Footnote <thomasj@footnote-inc.com> > > Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM > > Subject: Now Your Family & Friends Can Access the 1930 Census > > To: EmbryProject@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1930 Census Free > > > > Through the Month of August > > > > > > > > > > Dear embryproject, > > > > Send to a Colleague > > Use I Remember > > The 1930 US Census is one of the most powerful resources available to > > anyone who wants to learn more about their ancestors. > > During the month of August, we're giving everyone free access to > > Footnote.com's one-of-a-kind, interactive 1930 US Census. > > With Footnote's interactive census, viewing, downloading and printing > > images from the census are just the beginning. You can also add images > and > > comments, spotlight interesting finds, create pages for your ancestors > and > > tell their stories. > > Let your family and friends know by simply forwarding this email to them > or > > by pointing them to www.footnote.com/1930census/. > > The Footnote Team > > > > > > > > This email was sent to: EmbryProject@gmail.com > > To avoid this email being sent to your junk mail folder, please add this > > address (thomasj@footnote-inc.com) to your safe senders list. > > © 2009 Footnote. All Rights Reserved. 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