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    1. Re: [TXGEN] Tuesday night Chat
    2. Bunny, Just accessed the url below and didn't know I had to have Java Chat software to participate. Will attempt to load that and join in next week ebay On 06/24/13, B Freeman<willowcr@gmail.com> wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, Tuesday night 8 to abt 9 pm is "Chat Night" if you have never joined us now is the time. We have a nice time getting to know each other. You can jump right in or lurk in the background whatever you choose to do. We all share a common goal, who knows you may find out that someone has some valuable information on where you can locate something for your county!! :) I was told that some of you couldn't access chat last week. I can't access it using Firefox (my preferred browser) so I have to switch to IE. I don't know how to fix that, maybe someone else can help with that. Just click on the link and use your name as the username, hope to see you there! [1]http://www.txgenweb.org/tx/chat/chat.html Bunny Freeman Giving Christina a rest! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.txgenweb.org/tx/chat/chat.html 2. mailto:TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com

    06/25/2013 02:00:36
    1. [TXGEN] Tuesday night Chat
    2. B Freeman
    3. Well it's Tuesday that means "Chat Night" y'all come and join us at 8 pm. Just click on the link and use your name as the username, hope to see you there! If you can't log in on your preferred browser, try using a different one. http://www.txgenweb.org/tx/chat/chat.html Bunny Freeman Giving Christina a rest!

    06/25/2013 06:08:58
    1. [TXGEN] Tuesday night Chat
    2. B Freeman
    3. Ladies and Gentlemen, Tuesday night 8 to abt 9 pm is "Chat Night" if you have never joined us now is the time. We have a nice time getting to know each other. You can jump right in or lurk in the background whatever you choose to do. We all share a common goal, who knows you may find out that someone has some valuable information on where you can locate something for your county!! :) I was told that some of you couldn't access chat last week. I can't access it using Firefox (my preferred browser) so I have to switch to IE. I don't know how to fix that, maybe someone else can help with that. Just click on the link and use your name as the username, hope to see you there! http://www.txgenweb.org/tx/chat/chat.html Bunny Freeman Giving Christina a rest!

    06/24/2013 02:55:13
    1. Re: [TXGEN] Handbook of African Americans
    2. Jean Smoorenburg
    3. Thanks for the heads up. Jean Smoorenburg Montgomery County TX On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Gina Heffernan <ginagaleh@yahoo.com> wrote: > TSHA has launched a new section to their web site. It's part of the main > Handbook and can be accessed from there. > > > http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/african-americans/ > > > > Gina Heffernan > Rusk Co, Texas > http://www.cnocandoire.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/19/2013 10:02:52
    1. Re: [TXGEN] Handbook of African Americans
    2. cynthia buttram
    3. Thanks for this update.  I've added it to the Victoria Co. website.   Cynthia Buttram Victoria Co, Texas http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txvicto2/ From: Gina Heffernan <ginagaleh@yahoo.com> To: TXGenWeb List <TXGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:10 PM Subject: [TXGEN] Handbook of African Americans TSHA has launched a new section to their web site. It's part of the main Handbook and can be accessed from there. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/african-americans/   Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas http://www.cnocandoire.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/19/2013 07:47:00
    1. [TXGEN] Handbook of African Americans
    2. Gina Heffernan
    3. TSHA has launched a new section to their web site. It's part of the main Handbook and can be accessed from there. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/african-americans/   Gina Heffernan Rusk Co, Texas http://www.cnocandoire.com/

    06/19/2013 07:10:08
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Susan Collard
    3. Thanks Cliff. Susan Collard Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:01 PM, "Clifford Fargason" <fargason@c-edesign.com> wrote: > Regarding learning to code pages, there is an online training site > (lvsonline) that does an excellent job. The courses are six weeks long, a > lesson has some material to read, examples to follow, and an assignment to > do and post online. One lesson a week. The last time I took one of the > courses it was $25, you don't need to buy a book. > > Cliff Fargason > Scurry County > > -----Original Message----- > From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Susan Collard > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 23:25 PM > To: txgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor > > Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > >> I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. >> >> WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. >> >> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can >> preview the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for >> you. That's why I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried >> either Blue Griffon or Aloha. >> >> You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the >> state site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress >> Themes... The have static pages as well as associated blog pages for >> the more variable sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really >> impressed with the "drag and drop" menu making features I saw in >> action. You can use free themes or purchase some with more features. >> The beauty is that you can start free and then decide later to upgrade and > everything transfers. >> >> If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the >> TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own >> Jane Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State >> coordinator, so she might have some words of wisdom for you. >> >> Suzie >> TXFannin >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard > <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: >> >>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've >>> tried deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon >>> until I downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a > different one. >>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >>> template. >>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >>> Susan >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2013 11:10:25
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Clifford Fargason
    3. Regarding learning to code pages, there is an online training site (lvsonline) that does an excellent job. The courses are six weeks long, a lesson has some material to read, examples to follow, and an assignment to do and post online. One lesson a week. The last time I took one of the courses it was $25, you don't need to buy a book. Cliff Fargason Scurry County -----Original Message----- From: txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:txgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Collard Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 23:25 PM To: txgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. > > WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: > > Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can > preview the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for > you. That's why I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried > either Blue Griffon or Aloha. > > You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the > state site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress > Themes... The have static pages as well as associated blog pages for > the more variable sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really > impressed with the "drag and drop" menu making features I saw in > action. You can use free themes or purchase some with more features. > The beauty is that you can start free and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. > > If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the > TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own > Jane Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State > coordinator, so she might have some words of wisdom for you. > > Suzie > TXFannin > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > >> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've >> tried deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon >> until I downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different one. >> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >> template. >> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >> Susan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2013 11:01:34
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Susan Collard
    3. Thanks everyone, I am going to try Kompozer. Susan Mesquite, TX On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: > TextWrangler is good...I use it for a global find/replace site wide > Komposer is also a good option. > > I have free versions of both... > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > >> Susan, >> >> They do have a free version called TextWrangler. I tried it, liked it, and >> bought the more robust editor. The company is Bare Bones Software. I don't >> remember how much I spent. Probably wasn't much or I'd remember it. >> >> If you Google BBEdit you'll see links to discussion groups and much more. >> >> I've tried quite a few editors, some free and some not. There are so many >> to choose from. Some do not even let you see the code. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >> Gale, >> Is BBEdit free? >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:06 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: >> >>> That's a tough question to answer. I don't think the code is complicated >> but then I really like puzzles. And then I have no idea how long it will >> take anyone else to learn anything. That isn't meant to sound snide but I'm >> self taught in whatever I undertake. If I was in a classroom setting or >> even involved in some user groups I might have an idea. >>> >>> Here's my approach: look at the code and try to isolate areas to figure >> out what that line or statement does, then modify it and see what happens. >> All code editors can toggle back and forth to view it browser mode. >>> >>> There are a lot of books to buy but most just seem to cater to whatever >> excites the author. You can go to http://www.w3schools.com and find >> simple lists of all commands with a description of what each one does. >>> >>> I'm sure most of us have inherited our website after at least one and >> maybe five other volunteers have worked on it. The WSIWYG users copy and >> paste with no idea what they are actually putting in. They just know what >> the end result looks like. >>> >>> For example, an old statement "&nbsp;" interprets as "non-breaking >> space" and it's rarely used in modern code. In ALL of the pages I inherited >> I'm finding as many as 60 of these statements in one long line and that >> line just contains SPACES. >>> >>> Then each and every data record contains all of the font statements when >> the font can be defined ONCE early in the page. >>> >>> My advice is to try a sample file. Save one of your smaller cemeteries >> to a different name like "testcem.htm" and work with it. Copy and paste the >> code that gives you trouble into an email and we will help. >>> >>> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? >>> >>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. >>>> >>>> WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. >>>> >>>> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview >>>> the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's >> why >>>> I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon >> or >>>> Aloha. >>>> >>>> You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the >> state >>>> site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... >> The >>>> have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable >>>> sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the >> "drag >>>> and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes >> or >>>> purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free >>>> and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. >>>> >>>> If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the >>>> TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane >>>> Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, >> so she >>>> might have some words of wisdom for you. >>>> >>>> Suzie >>>> TXFannin >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard < >> troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've >> tried >>>>> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >>>>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >>>>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until >> I >>>>> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a >> different one. >>>>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >>>>> template. >>>>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >>>>> Susan >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2013 05:29:06
    1. [TXGEN] Chat tonight at 8
    2. B Freeman
    3. It's Tuesday. It's Chat night, don't forget!! http://www.txgenweb.org/tx/chat/chat.html If you haven't joined Chat before, just click on the link and use your name as the username and that is all there is to it. Bunny Freeman

    06/18/2013 04:00:05
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Suzie Henderson
    3. TextWrangler is good...I use it for a global find/replace site wide Komposer is also a good option. I have free versions of both... On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > Susan, > > They do have a free version called TextWrangler. I tried it, liked it, and > bought the more robust editor. The company is Bare Bones Software. I don't > remember how much I spent. Probably wasn't much or I'd remember it. > > If you Google BBEdit you'll see links to discussion groups and much more. > > I've tried quite a few editors, some free and some not. There are so many > to choose from. Some do not even let you see the code. > > Good luck, > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> > wrote: > > Gale, > Is BBEdit free? > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:06 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > > > That's a tough question to answer. I don't think the code is complicated > but then I really like puzzles. And then I have no idea how long it will > take anyone else to learn anything. That isn't meant to sound snide but I'm > self taught in whatever I undertake. If I was in a classroom setting or > even involved in some user groups I might have an idea. > > > > Here's my approach: look at the code and try to isolate areas to figure > out what that line or statement does, then modify it and see what happens. > All code editors can toggle back and forth to view it browser mode. > > > > There are a lot of books to buy but most just seem to cater to whatever > excites the author. You can go to http://www.w3schools.com and find > simple lists of all commands with a description of what each one does. > > > > I'm sure most of us have inherited our website after at least one and > maybe five other volunteers have worked on it. The WSIWYG users copy and > paste with no idea what they are actually putting in. They just know what > the end result looks like. > > > > For example, an old statement "&nbsp;" interprets as "non-breaking > space" and it's rarely used in modern code. In ALL of the pages I inherited > I'm finding as many as 60 of these statements in one long line and that > line just contains SPACES. > > > > Then each and every data record contains all of the font statements when > the font can be defined ONCE early in the page. > > > > My advice is to try a sample file. Save one of your smaller cemeteries > to a different name like "testcem.htm" and work with it. Copy and paste the > code that gives you trouble into an email and we will help. > > > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> > wrote: > > > > Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? > > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > > > >> I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. > >> > >> WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. > >> > >> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > >> > >> > >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview > >> the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's > why > >> I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon > or > >> Aloha. > >> > >> You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the > state > >> site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... > The > >> have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable > >> sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the > "drag > >> and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes > or > >> purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free > >> and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. > >> > >> If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the > >> TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane > >> Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, > so she > >> might have some words of wisdom for you. > >> > >> Suzie > >> TXFannin > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard < > troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > >> > >>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've > tried > >>> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. > >>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was > >>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until > I > >>> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a > different one. > >>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a > >>> template. > >>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. > >>> Susan > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/18/2013 03:16:26
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. GALE GORMAN
    3. Susan, They do have a free version called TextWrangler. I tried it, liked it, and bought the more robust editor. The company is Bare Bones Software. I don't remember how much I spent. Probably wasn't much or I'd remember it. If you Google BBEdit you'll see links to discussion groups and much more. I've tried quite a few editors, some free and some not. There are so many to choose from. Some do not even let you see the code. Good luck, Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> wrote: Gale, Is BBEdit free? On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:06 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > That's a tough question to answer. I don't think the code is complicated but then I really like puzzles. And then I have no idea how long it will take anyone else to learn anything. That isn't meant to sound snide but I'm self taught in whatever I undertake. If I was in a classroom setting or even involved in some user groups I might have an idea. > > Here's my approach: look at the code and try to isolate areas to figure out what that line or statement does, then modify it and see what happens. All code editors can toggle back and forth to view it browser mode. > > There are a lot of books to buy but most just seem to cater to whatever excites the author. You can go to http://www.w3schools.com and find simple lists of all commands with a description of what each one does. > > I'm sure most of us have inherited our website after at least one and maybe five other volunteers have worked on it. The WSIWYG users copy and paste with no idea what they are actually putting in. They just know what the end result looks like. > > For example, an old statement "&nbsp;" interprets as "non-breaking space" and it's rarely used in modern code. In ALL of the pages I inherited I'm finding as many as 60 of these statements in one long line and that line just contains SPACES. > > Then each and every data record contains all of the font statements when the font can be defined ONCE early in the page. > > My advice is to try a sample file. Save one of your smaller cemeteries to a different name like "testcem.htm" and work with it. Copy and paste the code that gives you trouble into an email and we will help. > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > >> I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. >> >> WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. >> >> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview >> the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's why >> I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon or >> Aloha. >> >> You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the state >> site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... The >> have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable >> sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the "drag >> and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes or >> purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free >> and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. >> >> If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the >> TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane >> Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, so she >> might have some words of wisdom for you. >> >> Suzie >> TXFannin >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: >> >>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've tried >>> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I >>> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different one. >>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >>> template. >>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >>> Susan >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/18/2013 01:51:28
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Susan Collard
    3. Carla do you know how I can uninstall Blue Griffon? I looked at the website but I didn't have anything in the folder for Blue Griffon that the website stated in order to uninstall. On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Carla Clifton <csclifton@gmail.com> wrote: > That is what happened with the new update. I don't get that now that I > uninstalled the update and reinstalled the old one. > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > >> I tried that. I reinstalled the old version. I was able to open it one >> time then it comes up with a window with this message. >> XML Parsing Error: undefined entity >> Location: chrome://bluegriffon/content/xul/bluegriffon >> LIne Number 63, Column 1: >> <window >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Carla Clifton <csclifton@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I use Blue Griffon and love it. I uninstalled the broken updated and >>> reinstalled the older version. My old version is 1.7 and the new update >>> was only 1.7.1 They still have them on their site where you downloaded >>> the newer update if you want to go get it again. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've >> tried >>>> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >>>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >>>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I >>>> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different >> one. >>>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >>>> template. >>>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >>>> Susan >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/17/2013 05:31:46
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Susan Collard
    3. Gale, Is BBEdit free? On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:06 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > That's a tough question to answer. I don't think the code is complicated but then I really like puzzles. And then I have no idea how long it will take anyone else to learn anything. That isn't meant to sound snide but I'm self taught in whatever I undertake. If I was in a classroom setting or even involved in some user groups I might have an idea. > > Here's my approach: look at the code and try to isolate areas to figure out what that line or statement does, then modify it and see what happens. All code editors can toggle back and forth to view it browser mode. > > There are a lot of books to buy but most just seem to cater to whatever excites the author. You can go to http://www.w3schools.com and find simple lists of all commands with a description of what each one does. > > I'm sure most of us have inherited our website after at least one and maybe five other volunteers have worked on it. The WSIWYG users copy and paste with no idea what they are actually putting in. They just know what the end result looks like. > > For example, an old statement "&nbsp;" interprets as "non-breaking space" and it's rarely used in modern code. In ALL of the pages I inherited I'm finding as many as 60 of these statements in one long line and that line just contains SPACES. > > Then each and every data record contains all of the font statements when the font can be defined ONCE early in the page. > > My advice is to try a sample file. Save one of your smaller cemeteries to a different name like "testcem.htm" and work with it. Copy and paste the code that gives you trouble into an email and we will help. > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > >> I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. >> >> WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. >> >> Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview >> the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's why >> I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon or >> Aloha. >> >> You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the state >> site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... The >> have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable >> sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the "drag >> and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes or >> purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free >> and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. >> >> If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the >> TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane >> Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, so she >> might have some words of wisdom for you. >> >> Suzie >> TXFannin >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: >> >>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've tried >>> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I >>> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different one. >>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >>> template. >>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >>> Susan >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/17/2013 05:14:19
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. GALE GORMAN
    3. That's a tough question to answer. I don't think the code is complicated but then I really like puzzles. And then I have no idea how long it will take anyone else to learn anything. That isn't meant to sound snide but I'm self taught in whatever I undertake. If I was in a classroom setting or even involved in some user groups I might have an idea. Here's my approach: look at the code and try to isolate areas to figure out what that line or statement does, then modify it and see what happens. All code editors can toggle back and forth to view it browser mode. There are a lot of books to buy but most just seem to cater to whatever excites the author. You can go to http://www.w3schools.com and find simple lists of all commands with a description of what each one does. I'm sure most of us have inherited our website after at least one and maybe five other volunteers have worked on it. The WSIWYG users copy and paste with no idea what they are actually putting in. They just know what the end result looks like. For example, an old statement "&nbsp;" interprets as "non-breaking space" and it's rarely used in modern code. In ALL of the pages I inherited I'm finding as many as 60 of these statements in one long line and that line just contains SPACES. Then each and every data record contains all of the font statements when the font can be defined ONCE early in the page. My advice is to try a sample file. Save one of your smaller cemeteries to a different name like "testcem.htm" and work with it. Copy and paste the code that gives you trouble into an email and we will help. Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com> wrote: Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. > > WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: > > Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview > the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's why > I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon or > Aloha. > > You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the state > site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... The > have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable > sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the "drag > and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes or > purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free > and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. > > If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the > TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane > Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, so she > might have some words of wisdom for you. > > Suzie > TXFannin > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > >> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've tried >> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I >> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different one. >> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >> template. >> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >> Susan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/17/2013 05:06:57
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Susan Collard
    3. Gale, is using Code complicated? Will it take me a lot of time to learn? On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, GALE GORMAN <gale_gorman@me.com> wrote: > I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. > > WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. > > Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) > > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: > > Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview > the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's why > I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon or > Aloha. > > You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the state > site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... The > have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable > sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the "drag > and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes or > purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free > and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. > > If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the > TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane > Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, so she > might have some words of wisdom for you. > > Suzie > TXFannin > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > >> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've tried >> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I >> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different one. >> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >> template. >> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >> Susan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/17/2013 04:24:51
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. GALE GORMAN
    3. >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:13 PM, jimmy <jimmy@eppytx.com> wrote: 2) If anyone is interested... MS has discontinued Expression Web (FrontPage), and you can download the current version for free at http://microsoft.com. Just be aware it will never be updated or supported. << I think Carla is on a Mac. Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.)

    06/17/2013 04:19:49
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. GALE GORMAN
    3. I like to work at code level also. I'm on a MacBook Pro and use BBEdit. WSIWYG usually copies and pastes about 10X more code than is needed. Gale Gorman (Robertson Co.) On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Suzie Henderson <henderson.suzie@gmail.com> wrote: Susan, I use Coda by Panic.com but I hand code my pages. You can preview the pages to see what you will get but it doesn't code for you. That's why I haven't made any suggestions... I have not tried either Blue Griffon or Aloha. You may want to take a look at the TNGenWeb counties (as well as the state site). 77 of their counties are done using various WordPress Themes... The have static pages as well as associated blog pages for the more variable sections and they are very WYSIWYG. I was really impressed with the "drag and drop" menu making features I saw in action. You can use free themes or purchase some with more features. The beauty is that you can start free and then decide later to upgrade and everything transfers. If you find yourself interested Taneya Koonce <TNSC@tngenweb.org>, the TNGenWeb State Coordinator, is a real fan of WordPress and our own Jane Colmenares <evancol@yahoo.com> is their Assistant State coordinator, so she might have some words of wisdom for you. Suzie TXFannin On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've tried > deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. > In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was > transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I > downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different one. > I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a > template. > Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. > Susan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/17/2013 04:17:04
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. jimmy
    3. 1) I think someone may have said, but be sure to do a full uninstall (not the same as deleting it) before reinstalling an older version. 2) If anyone is interested... MS has discontinued Expression Web (FrontPage), and you can download the current version for free at http://microsoft.com. Just be aware it will never be updated or supported. 3) If you use WP, be *absolutely certain* you keep all pages current and up to date. That includes themes and such that are not active. WP is fairly easily hacked if not kept up!! jimmy

    06/17/2013 04:13:38
    1. Re: [TXGEN] WYSIWYG Web editor
    2. Susan Collard
    3. Susie, I did download a template that I liked from there and was working on a new Index page. I have it saved. I have never used a editor that uses codes so I don't feel comfortable using them. I may try deleting and reinstalling Blue Griffon one more time to see if it will work again. On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Carla Clifton <csclifton@gmail.com> wrote: > That is what happened with the new update. I don't get that now that I > uninstalled the update and reinstalled the old one. > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com>wrote: > >> I tried that. I reinstalled the old version. I was able to open it one >> time then it comes up with a window with this message. >> XML Parsing Error: undefined entity >> Location: chrome://bluegriffon/content/xul/bluegriffon >> LIne Number 63, Column 1: >> <window >> >> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Carla Clifton <csclifton@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I use Blue Griffon and love it. I uninstalled the broken updated and >>> reinstalled the older version. My old version is 1.7 and the new update >>> was only 1.7.1 They still have them on their site where you downloaded >>> the newer update if you want to go get it again. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Susan Collard <troopercollard@tx.rr.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded an update for Blue Griffon and now I can't use it. I've >> tried >>>> deleting it and reinstalling but it does not work. >>>> In addition I had to purchase a new MacBook Pro. All my info was >>>> transferred to the new computer. I was able to open Blue Griffon until I >>>> downloaded the update. Sooo, I am wondering if I should try a different >> one. >>>> I would also like to redo my webpages and give it a new look using a >>>> template. >>>> Any suggestions for a WYSIWYG Web editor for Mac. >>>> Susan >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/17/2013 04:02:56