This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1hB.2ACE/1505.1.1 Message Board Post: thanks for answering my enquiry. i have no idea who John Williams Bivens parents were. All my husband's family ever said was that he was 7, and came with his mother on a wagon train.