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    1. [TXFANNIN-L] Map
    2. I sure do enjoy the new Elwood Cemetery map. I do have a question. It is a bigger map. Can you print it on paper 8xl0? I have folks burried there and will go up there soon. Thanks, Peggy

    04/27/2002 02:55:06
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Map
    2. Susan Hawkins
    3. I think its interesting that the Elwood Folks have a love of making hand drawn maps! :) It solved some mysterys' to me so I just love it. The two maps are really special and help to reinforce each other. Save the image and then open it in a paint program or any image software like a scanner software , you can enlarge it or shrink it and enhance it all you need to. I haven't tried printing it out. I left it a large map so all details will stay ,any smaller and they would be hard to read. acording to my paint program it is 11 X 1/2 by 8 X 1/2 you could slit it into two pieces half and half and end up with an easy to read one. If anyone can't read it all then take a peek at it in your software in the negitive image. Susan Pantrees@cs.com wrote: > > I sure do enjoy the new Elwood Cemetery map. I do have a question. It is a > bigger map. Can you print it on paper 8xl0? > I have folks burried there and will go up there soon. > Thanks, Peggy > >

    04/27/2002 02:49:45
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Morris B. & Nancy (HUGHS?) CLARK 1800'S
    2. Debra Schafer
    3. THAT'S MY FAMILY!!!!!!!! I decend from Morris Brown Clark and Nancy Hughes Ragland. I have a photo of her, but not him and a photo of his father Henry B. Clark. Photos of some of his brothers, etc. I have his civil war records.....Their son Charley Morris Clark was my gr grandfather. You can contact me directly at tickers96@yahoo.com Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickye White" <vickye@crcom.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Morris B. & Nancy (HUGHS?) CLARK 1800'S > I am hunting information on the following family. If anyone can be of any > help I would appreciate it. > > I think Morris served in the CSA. Nancy is later in Tulia, Swisher County, > Texas with family. > > Thank you, > > Vickye White > Rt. 1 Box 96 > 3477 N. FM 1212 > Stanton, TX 79782 > > Please visit my website: > http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Park/2777/footstepsbackintime.html > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > How can just one ancestor cause so much TROUBLE ?? > >

    04/27/2002 06:36:43
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co
    2. Debra Schafer
    3. No I haven't. I'm off today so was going to dig it out of the box and then scan it. Thought I had it saved to my hard drive but I guess I deleted it to save space. Will send in a few minutes. Just logged on to check my e-mails. Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Philip Adams" <jadams3@pdq.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co > Debra, did you send the Picture of Jim Pearson? I ahve been attacked by > several viri senders this week and if you didn't mark the subject line as a > Picture of who for the attachment, I may have deleted it. If you did send > please resend to me. > Thanks > JPA > jadams3@pdq.net > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, April 25, 2002 01:17:39 PM > To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co > > I have a photo of a Jim Pearson family that was in my gr grandmother's > things. Don't know where it fits into my line, if at all. My gr grandparents > lived in Fannin Co from 1892 to 1906. They then went to E. New Mexico, right > on the Tx NM border. Some settled in NM and some settled in Lamb or Swisher > Co., TX. Does this name ring a bell with you? > > Deb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Philip Adams" <jadams3@pdq.net> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:45 AM > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co > > > > Were there any Pearson's or Hawkins's on this wagon train. My mother, > > Margaret Harris Pearson, b. 1916 in Bonham, said they went to west Texas > > when she was 'little'. I would assume this was sometime after 1921 to > 1928. > > Is this the time frame you all are referring to with this wagon train? > > John Philip Adams > > Baytown > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don Coatney" <donnlisa@bellsouth.net> > > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:37 PM > > Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co > > > > > > > Were there any Coatney or Price family members on this wagon > > > train? Don Coatney > > > > > > > > > > > So many dead men! So little time! > > > > > > > > > > > > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > > > > > > > Search List Archives by keyword > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > He who dies with the most ancestors wins! > >

    04/27/2002 06:34:30
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Mary Elizabeth TAYLOR
    2. Lauri Rowell
    3. Do you know anything about George Taylor and his children? My Mary Elizabeth Taylor was born in Texas about 1882. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT L TAYLOR" <rltaylor47@juno.com> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Mary Elizabeth TAYLOR > > I have, in my tree, a Mary Elizabeth TAYLOR, b. 01 January 1840 > (Itwamba CO, MS), daughter of Samuel B. TAYLOR, b. 22 December 1810 (TN), > and Mary (Polly) DONHAM, b. 25 March 1810 (Warren CO, KY). > > I do not know to whom she married, but am trying to find out. I > have not found Samuel B TAYLOR in the 1850 Census, but he is in the 1860 > Census in Chickasaw Co, MS, and in the 1870 Census in Hill CO, TX, and > in the 1880 Census in Williamson CO, TX. > > She had a brother, George Gutry TAYLOR, b. 01 February 1833 > (Fayette CO, MS), who may have "stopped off" in Fannin CO, TX, got > married and settled down. I have also not been able to find sister > Nancy Pabury TAYLOR, b. 13 August 1837 (Fayette CO, MS). > > If any one has any leads let me know. > > Robert Lynn Taylor > rltaylor47@juno.com > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > >

    04/27/2002 06:22:41
    1. [TXFANNIN-L] Morris B. & Nancy (HUGHS?) CLARK 1800'S
    2. Vickye White
    3. I am hunting information on the following family. If anyone can be of any help I would appreciate it. I think Morris served in the CSA. Nancy is later in Tulia, Swisher County, Texas with family. Thank you, Vickye White Rt. 1 Box 96 3477 N. FM 1212 Stanton, TX 79782 Please visit my website: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Park/2777/footstepsbackintime.html

    04/27/2002 05:17:15
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co
    2. John Philip Adams
    3. Debra, did you send the Picture of Jim Pearson? I ahve been attacked by several viri senders this week and if you didn't mark the subject line as a Picture of who for the attachment, I may have deleted it. If you did send please resend to me. Thanks JPA jadams3@pdq.net -------Original Message------- From: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, April 25, 2002 01:17:39 PM To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co I have a photo of a Jim Pearson family that was in my gr grandmother's things. Don't know where it fits into my line, if at all. My gr grandparents lived in Fannin Co from 1892 to 1906. They then went to E. New Mexico, right on the Tx NM border. Some settled in NM and some settled in Lamb or Swisher Co., TX. Does this name ring a bell with you? Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Philip Adams" <jadams3@pdq.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co > Were there any Pearson's or Hawkins's on this wagon train. My mother, > Margaret Harris Pearson, b. 1916 in Bonham, said they went to west Texas > when she was 'little'. I would assume this was sometime after 1921 to 1928. > Is this the time frame you all are referring to with this wagon train? > John Philip Adams > Baytown > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Coatney" <donnlisa@bellsouth.net> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:37 PM > Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Wagon Train to Fannin Co > > > > Were there any Coatney or Price family members on this wagon > > train? Don Coatney > > > > > > > > So many dead men! So little time! > > > > > > > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > > Search List Archives by keyword http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

    04/27/2002 04:43:46
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Cynthia Yocum
    3. I will go along with that. Both my son and my grandson had crossed eyes when they were small. My son had corrective surgery and my grandson's straightened witht use of glasses. I only have two children, so I would say the odds are pretty great in our family. It just interested me that a genetics and biology were injected in the conversation, but genes are the basis for genealogy. Thanks for the information. It was interesting and at least got some of us to think. Cindy Yocum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Hawkins" <hawkins@texoma.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > It has a lot to do with Genealogy . Diseases and the weather and wars > have a great deal to do with where folks lived and why they chose to > move. > While editing photographs of children in Fannin County I noted that > there are many many of them with Crossed eyes. I was asking if any one > had noted if there was a reason. I know people are born with crossed > eyes but personally have only known 1 person born that way. Due to the > large no's of people in the late 1800's in photographs , they represent > a lot larger number percentage wise in a class picture for instance. So > what caused so very many back then? Can it be caused by a disease? or > only at birth? If so why has it decreased. > Things like that are part of their history . Why it happened would be > nice to know. > Where your Fannin County ancestors lived in the county BEFORE the > railroads, had to do purely with health. All of the early settlements > that stayed together for at least 10 years were located so they werent > right on top of a wet place and had north and south breezes crossing a > slight rise. Out of the flood plains. > When the spot for Bonham was worked out it was noted it was Not a very > healthy area but the rule was still to place a county seat only near the > center of the county -no more than a half days ride for anyone. This was > hard to do because the Bois d'arc flooded and cut the county in half a > lot. > Sure enough when a few people got ill they would send them quickly out > to a farm on higher ground as they thought that was the only way to get > them well. > It is that reason that the Russell Heights area ended up in the hands > of the rich. You will note the area around Gates Hill Cemetery - the > African American cemetery for Bonham is in a low area that experienced > flooding and was toward the Bois d'arc marshes that used to happen > before the dam was built in Denison to control the Red River . > Some places like Ragsdale , ended up dying out anyway except as a > country school area. Early on it had a good sized population and was > fairly safe from flooding but a horrible epidemic killed almost a third > of the citizens. Their bodies carried all the way south of where > Monkstown was to be later and buried quickly in a forrest. They didn't > come back to mark the graves for many years. Few ended up being marked > and today no one knows exactly where it was located. > Comparing diseases today and yesterday are important. also where folks > lived and how they responded to the situation another. > Watching history you can even see why folks never lived in certain > areas . No houses show up in some of the areas until after the 1930's. > The reason--- little > 'tornado alleys' that repeated the pattern of a tornado track too many > times to be just coincidence. > Her answer to my question feeds my curiosity very well, maybe there > were more children with crossed eyes because they run in families and > the families were larger and more branches of the families concentrated > in one area. Fannin county was quite a web of intermarriage sometimes so > it spreads the genes. > And just maybe I am spending too much time thinking about it. > But I'm still waiting for a tornado to hit just the right houses > that were built where folks probably shouldn't build them. > Bet yall didn't know your ancestors were so very intertaining to me. > On lots of subjects. > Susan > > > > > Cynthia Yocum wrote: > > > > What does this have to do with Fannin Co. Genealogy? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Pantrees@cs.com> > > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > > > > > Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors > > > that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore > > glasses > > > to correct hers. > > > A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and > > glasses > > > also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience. > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > >

    04/27/2002 03:29:42
    1. [TXFANNIN-L] Re: a Houston Butler marriage
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1hB.2ACE/1381.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks so much for the info!

    04/27/2002 01:12:01
    1. [TXFANNIN-L] a Houston Butler marriage
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Butler, White, Cook, Hargrave, Hoff, Johnson, Lewellen, Luke, Reed, Shaw, Thompson, Vaughan, Wair Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1hB.2ACE/1381.1 Message Board Post: Hunt County, Texas, Marriages 1912-1920, page 28: groom: Houston Butler bride: Ida White date of marriage: 19 Feb 1918 recorded: marriage book T page 50 GREENVILLE MORNING HERALD, TUE, 19 FEB 1918, : 4 MARRIAGE LICENSES BUTLER, HOUSTON COOK, NEWT HARGRAVE, THALMA HOFF, MARY JOHNSON, LOUISE LEWELLEN, THURZA LUKE, O.L. MORRISON, SADIE REED, GRANVILLE SHAW, LYDIA, MRS. THOMPSON, T.B. VAUGHAN, MONEY WAIR, GEORGE WHITE, IDA

    04/26/2002 09:02:08
    1. [TXFANNIN-L] Zachariah Hutchins!774-1843
    2. Diane Ray
    3. Does this ring any bells with anyone. There are 3 of his descendent buried at Coontown Cemetary and I know that at least one of his sons left Arkansas to go to Texas. Have info to trade or give away if anyone wants. gdot22@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness

    04/26/2002 06:28:15
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Rickets used to effect the legs severely. I remember people given children cod liver oil to ward off the crippling of young legs.... Ginny Ayers Spann <>< VASPANN@aol.com RESEARCHING: Ayers, Bennett, Byrom, Fowler, Green, Gross, Hammontree, Kyle, Ladd, Looney, Seabolt & Stone

    04/26/2002 04:34:43
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Honeygrove area
    2. Darrell Hart
    3. Can you supply a little more info on your Holt line. I have Holt's on 2 different lines. You can reach me at darrellhart@attbi.com. Nancy Hart ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Howard <phoward@cei.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Honeygrove area > I would appreciate anything anyone runs across concerning any Holt or > Kyle in the early 1900's. Mamie Kyle, wife of Thomas Price Kyle died in > Fe. of 1901. Her unnamed child died January 12, 1901. Supposedly there > was a buggy "accident". They are both buried in Dial Cemetery in Honey > Grove Tx. > > Is there a book, maybe, with old obituaries in it? Shortly after > Mamie's death, Thomas P. returned to Arkansas for a short time, then > back to Tx., Delta and Johnson Counties, only through Ok, first. > > Pam > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > >

    04/26/2002 02:26:21
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Sethie Pitt
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Hawkins" <hawkins@texoma.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > It has a lot to do with Genealogy . Diseases and the weather and wars > have a great deal to do with where folks lived and why they chose to > move. > While editing photographs of children in Fannin County I noted that > there are many many of them with Crossed eyes. I was asking if any one > had noted if there was a reason. I know people are born with crossed > eyes but personally have only known 1 person born that way. Due to the > large no's of people in the late 1800's in photographs , they represent > a lot larger number percentage wise in a class picture for instance. So > what caused so very many back then? Can it be caused by a disease? or > only at birth? If so why has it decreased. > Things like that are part of their history . Why it happened would be > nice to know. > Where your Fannin County ancestors lived in the county BEFORE the > railroads, had to do purely with health. All of the early settlements > that stayed together for at least 10 years were located so they werent > right on top of a wet place and had north and south breezes crossing a > slight rise. Out of the flood plains. > When the spot for Bonham was worked out it was noted it was Not a very > healthy area but the rule was still to place a county seat only near the > center of the county -no more than a half days ride for anyone. This was > hard to do because the Bois d'arc flooded and cut the county in half a > lot. > Sure enough when a few people got ill they would send them quickly out > to a farm on higher ground as they thought that was the only way to get > them well. > It is that reason that the Russell Heights area ended up in the hands > of the rich. You will note the area around Gates Hill Cemetery - the > African American cemetery for Bonham is in a low area that experienced > flooding and was toward the Bois d'arc marshes that used to happen > before the dam was built in Denison to control the Red River . > Some places like Ragsdale , ended up dying out anyway except as a > country school area. Early on it had a good sized population and was > fairly safe from flooding but a horrible epidemic killed almost a third > of the citizens. Their bodies carried all the way south of where > Monkstown was to be later and buried quickly in a forrest. They didn't > come back to mark the graves for many years. Few ended up being marked > and today no one knows exactly where it was located. > Comparing diseases today and yesterday are important. also where folks > lived and how they responded to the situation another. > Watching history you can even see why folks never lived in certain > areas . No houses show up in some of the areas until after the 1930's. > The reason--- little > 'tornado alleys' that repeated the pattern of a tornado track too many > times to be just coincidence. > Her answer to my question feeds my curiosity very well, maybe there > were more children with crossed eyes because they run in families and > the families were larger and more branches of the families concentrated > in one area. Fannin county was quite a web of intermarriage sometimes so > it spreads the genes. > And just maybe I am spending too much time thinking about it. > But I'm still waiting for a tornado to hit just the right houses > that were built where folks probably shouldn't build them. > Bet yall didn't know your ancestors were so very intertaining to me. > On lots of subjects. > Susan > > > > > Cynthia Yocum wrote: > > > > What does this have to do with Fannin Co. Genealogy? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Pantrees@cs.com> > > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > > > > > Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors > > > that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore > > glasses > > > to correct hers. > > > A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and > > glasses > > > also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience. > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > >

    04/26/2002 02:15:02
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Louis Lyttle
    3. Concerning Susan Hawkins' gentle explanation of a not-so-rigid definition of genealogy research, and why it matters. That is a mighty nice bit of instruction for those of us who wish to know as much as possible about our folks, as I have ever read. And I thank you, Susan. Louis K. Lyttle, in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, US of A. Still trying to learn more about Belzoriah Ann and Albert Kelly Armstrong, who were married in that part of Texas on 1 August 1874. They were my grand parents, and I know so very little about them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Hawkins Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:56 PM To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic It has a lot to do with Genealogy . Diseases and the weather and wars have a great deal to do with where folks lived and why they chose to move. While editing photographs of children in Fannin County I noted that there are many many of them with Crossed eyes. I was asking if any one had noted if there was a reason. I know people are born with crossed eyes but personally have only known 1 person born that way. Due to the large no's of people in the late 1800's in photographs , they represent a lot larger number percentage wise in a class picture for instance. So what caused so very many back then? Can it be caused by a disease? or only at birth? If so why has it decreased. Things like that are part of their history . Why it happened would be nice to know. Where your Fannin County ancestors lived in the county BEFORE the railroads, had to do purely with health. All of the early settlements that stayed together for at least 10 years were located so they werent right on top of a wet place and had north and south breezes crossing a slight rise. Out of the flood plains. When the spot for Bonham was worked out it was noted it was Not a very healthy area but the rule was still to place a county seat only near the center of the county -no more than a half days ride for anyone. This was hard to do because the Bois d'arc flooded and cut the county in half a lot. Sure enough when a few people got ill they would send them quickly out to a farm on higher ground as they thought that was the only way to get them well. It is that reason that the Russell Heights area ended up in the hands of the rich. You will note the area around Gates Hill Cemetery - the African American cemetery for Bonham is in a low area that experienced flooding and was toward the Bois d'arc marshes that used to happen before the dam was built in Denison to control the Red River . Some places like Ragsdale , ended up dying out anyway except as a country school area. Early on it had a good sized population and was fairly safe from flooding but a horrible epidemic killed almost a third of the citizens. Their bodies carried all the way south of where Monkstown was to be later and buried quickly in a forrest. They didn't come back to mark the graves for many years. Few ended up being marked and today no one knows exactly where it was located. Comparing diseases today and yesterday are important. also where folks lived and how they responded to the situation another. Watching history you can even see why folks never lived in certain areas . No houses show up in some of the areas until after the 1930's. The reason--- little 'tornado alleys' that repeated the pattern of a tornado track too many times to be just coincidence. Her answer to my question feeds my curiosity very well, maybe there were more children with crossed eyes because they run in families and the families were larger and more branches of the families concentrated in one area. Fannin county was quite a web of intermarriage sometimes so it spreads the genes. And just maybe I am spending too much time thinking about it. But I'm still waiting for a tornado to hit just the right houses that were built where folks probably shouldn't build them. Bet yall didn't know your ancestors were so very intertaining to me. On lots of subjects. Susan Cynthia Yocum wrote: > > What does this have to do with Fannin Co. Genealogy? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pantrees@cs.com> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > > > Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors > > that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore > glasses > > to correct hers. > > A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and > glasses > > also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience. > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== Your listowner Susan Hawkins & she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com

    04/26/2002 01:02:45
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. william pearce
    3. And if you think that living in North Texas was bad for your health, your ancestors should have lived in Northwest Louisiana as long as mine did. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Hawkins" <hawkins@texoma.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > It has a lot to do with Genealogy . Diseases and the weather and wars > have a great deal to do with where folks lived and why they chose to > move. > While editing photographs of children in Fannin County I noted that > there are many many of them with Crossed eyes. I was asking if any one > had noted if there was a reason. I know people are born with crossed > eyes but personally have only known 1 person born that way. Due to the > large no's of people in the late 1800's in photographs , they represent > a lot larger number percentage wise in a class picture for instance. So > what caused so very many back then? Can it be caused by a disease? or > only at birth? If so why has it decreased. > Things like that are part of their history . Why it happened would be > nice to know. > Where your Fannin County ancestors lived in the county BEFORE the > railroads, had to do purely with health. All of the early settlements > that stayed together for at least 10 years were located so they werent > right on top of a wet place and had north and south breezes crossing a > slight rise. Out of the flood plains. > When the spot for Bonham was worked out it was noted it was Not a very > healthy area but the rule was still to place a county seat only near the > center of the county -no more than a half days ride for anyone. This was > hard to do because the Bois d'arc flooded and cut the county in half a > lot. > Sure enough when a few people got ill they would send them quickly out > to a farm on higher ground as they thought that was the only way to get > them well. > It is that reason that the Russell Heights area ended up in the hands > of the rich. You will note the area around Gates Hill Cemetery - the > African American cemetery for Bonham is in a low area that experienced > flooding and was toward the Bois d'arc marshes that used to happen > before the dam was built in Denison to control the Red River . > Some places like Ragsdale , ended up dying out anyway except as a > country school area. Early on it had a good sized population and was > fairly safe from flooding but a horrible epidemic killed almost a third > of the citizens. Their bodies carried all the way south of where > Monkstown was to be later and buried quickly in a forrest. They didn't > come back to mark the graves for many years. Few ended up being marked > and today no one knows exactly where it was located. > Comparing diseases today and yesterday are important. also where folks > lived and how they responded to the situation another. > Watching history you can even see why folks never lived in certain > areas . No houses show up in some of the areas until after the 1930's. > The reason--- little > 'tornado alleys' that repeated the pattern of a tornado track too many > times to be just coincidence. > Her answer to my question feeds my curiosity very well, maybe there > were more children with crossed eyes because they run in families and > the families were larger and more branches of the families concentrated > in one area. Fannin county was quite a web of intermarriage sometimes so > it spreads the genes. > And just maybe I am spending too much time thinking about it. > But I'm still waiting for a tornado to hit just the right houses > that were built where folks probably shouldn't build them. > Bet yall didn't know your ancestors were so very intertaining to me. > On lots of subjects. > Susan > > > > > Cynthia Yocum wrote: > > > > What does this have to do with Fannin Co. Genealogy? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Pantrees@cs.com> > > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > > > > > Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors > > > that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore > > glasses > > > to correct hers. > > > A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and > > glasses > > > also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience. > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > >

    04/26/2002 12:18:14
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Susan Hawkins
    3. It has a lot to do with Genealogy . Diseases and the weather and wars have a great deal to do with where folks lived and why they chose to move. While editing photographs of children in Fannin County I noted that there are many many of them with Crossed eyes. I was asking if any one had noted if there was a reason. I know people are born with crossed eyes but personally have only known 1 person born that way. Due to the large no's of people in the late 1800's in photographs , they represent a lot larger number percentage wise in a class picture for instance. So what caused so very many back then? Can it be caused by a disease? or only at birth? If so why has it decreased. Things like that are part of their history . Why it happened would be nice to know. Where your Fannin County ancestors lived in the county BEFORE the railroads, had to do purely with health. All of the early settlements that stayed together for at least 10 years were located so they werent right on top of a wet place and had north and south breezes crossing a slight rise. Out of the flood plains. When the spot for Bonham was worked out it was noted it was Not a very healthy area but the rule was still to place a county seat only near the center of the county -no more than a half days ride for anyone. This was hard to do because the Bois d'arc flooded and cut the county in half a lot. Sure enough when a few people got ill they would send them quickly out to a farm on higher ground as they thought that was the only way to get them well. It is that reason that the Russell Heights area ended up in the hands of the rich. You will note the area around Gates Hill Cemetery - the African American cemetery for Bonham is in a low area that experienced flooding and was toward the Bois d'arc marshes that used to happen before the dam was built in Denison to control the Red River . Some places like Ragsdale , ended up dying out anyway except as a country school area. Early on it had a good sized population and was fairly safe from flooding but a horrible epidemic killed almost a third of the citizens. Their bodies carried all the way south of where Monkstown was to be later and buried quickly in a forrest. They didn't come back to mark the graves for many years. Few ended up being marked and today no one knows exactly where it was located. Comparing diseases today and yesterday are important. also where folks lived and how they responded to the situation another. Watching history you can even see why folks never lived in certain areas . No houses show up in some of the areas until after the 1930's. The reason--- little 'tornado alleys' that repeated the pattern of a tornado track too many times to be just coincidence. Her answer to my question feeds my curiosity very well, maybe there were more children with crossed eyes because they run in families and the families were larger and more branches of the families concentrated in one area. Fannin county was quite a web of intermarriage sometimes so it spreads the genes. And just maybe I am spending too much time thinking about it. But I'm still waiting for a tornado to hit just the right houses that were built where folks probably shouldn't build them. Bet yall didn't know your ancestors were so very intertaining to me. On lots of subjects. Susan Cynthia Yocum wrote: > > What does this have to do with Fannin Co. Genealogy? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pantrees@cs.com> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > > > Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors > > that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore > glasses > > to correct hers. > > A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and > glasses > > also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience. > > >

    04/26/2002 11:54:38
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Cynthia Yocum
    3. What does this have to do with Fannin Co. Genealogy? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pantrees@cs.com> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic > Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors > that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore glasses > to correct hers. > A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and glasses > also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience. > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > >

    04/26/2002 09:54:57
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] mostly offtopic
    2. Yes, children are borned crosseyed today. Thank God we have good Doctors that know how to correct them. My granddaughter had surgery and wore glasses to correct hers. A little over thirty years ago a neighbor's daughter had surgery and glasses also. I am not a Doctor but found out by experience.

    04/26/2002 03:46:34
    1. Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Mary Elizabeth TAYLOR
    2. John Philip Adams
    3. Did you look at Lamar, Harrison, Hunt & Nacogdoches cos. for marriage records. Sometimes with the early days, counties were formed from others and the records stayed or went with what would seem NO standard of procedure. John Philip Adams ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT L TAYLOR" <rltaylor47@juno.com> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Re: Mary Elizabeth TAYLOR > > I have, in my tree, a Mary Elizabeth TAYLOR, b. 01 January 1840 > (Itwamba CO, MS), daughter of Samuel B. TAYLOR, b. 22 December 1810 (TN), > and Mary (Polly) DONHAM, b. 25 March 1810 (Warren CO, KY). > > I do not know to whom she married, but am trying to find out. I > have not found Samuel B TAYLOR in the 1850 Census, but he is in the 1860 > Census in Chickasaw Co, MS, and in the 1870 Census in Hill CO, TX, and > in the 1880 Census in Williamson CO, TX. > > She had a brother, George Gutry TAYLOR, b. 01 February 1833 > (Fayette CO, MS), who may have "stopped off" in Fannin CO, TX, got > married and settled down. I have also not been able to find sister > Nancy Pabury TAYLOR, b. 13 August 1837 (Fayette CO, MS). > > If any one has any leads let me know. > > Robert Lynn Taylor > rltaylor47@juno.com > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com >

    04/25/2002 11:38:50