Thanks for the Orangeville information Susan. It has filled some gaps for me. I'm always interested in that kind of information. My father's family originated there. My mother's mother was born in Illinois, a little place called Pilot Knob. A trip there and I discovered it too is just a place, not a real town. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Hawkins Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:42 AM To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville ( and a loading note)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1hB.2ACE/165.2 Message Board Post: It appears John Wesley King was my great great grandfather, his son Edward Lovelace King was my great grandfather, his daughter Edna Workman was my Grandmother and her son Elzie Bert Workman was my Father. Thanks, Damon Workman

This morning's water- soaked Abilene paper had an obituary for Thelma Jo Blankenship Moore born in 1920 in Fannin County TX. If anyone has an interest in details, check the Abilene Reporter-News website--It may be shown in full there. If not let me know. I'll keep it for a few days. Judy Busch in flooded Abilene Thank God we live on a hill!

I have a Jane Scott that came to Texas from Georgia with her two sons and several daughters in 185. One of her daughters, Elizabeth married Daniel Brown. They and Jane Scott settled in Orangeville. My Hamilton's were in Ponotoc Co. and Holmes Co. MS. > I am stuck on a Hamilton as well. Manerva Elinor Hamilton was born in Giles > Co., TN in 1832. They then went to Ellis Co., Texas, she married in Jackson > Co., Alabama but most of her children were born in Tishamingo Co > Mississippi. They last three were born in Fannin Co., TX. Which is where is > is buried. She married to William Samuel Scott. I know nothing about her > siblings or parents. Does this name sound familiar to anyone? I have found > several other Scott researchers but we all have come to a dead end on > Manerva. > > Deb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Barker" <mbarker@koyote.com> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville-Tate-Hamilton-Wallace > > > > The Rhoads came from NY to Kentucky then to Texas. I also have > > Hamiltons in my family. My great grandmother Holmes was a Hamilton. > > She was born in South Carolina, moved to Mississippi with her parents > > and siblings and then married my great grandfather and came to Texas. > > Do you know where your Hamilton's are from? There were alot of > > Hamilton cousins in Whitewright who are buried in the cemetery there > > and at Vittetoe cemetery in Kentuckytown. > > My cousin has the deeds right now but as soon as I see her I'll look > > through them and let you know if I find a Tate. > > Deanne > > > > > Deanne, > > > Thank you so very much !!!!! Rev. John Tate died in 1869 and any > > property > > > after that would be in the name of Synthia Hamilton Tate. > > > > > > Other major surnames I have in the area are: HAMILTON & WALLACE > > > I haven't done very much on either of them though. I would like to > > find out > > > who the parents of S/Cynthia HAMILTON were. > > > > > > By the way...Where did your Rhoads come from ? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Rebecca > > > > > > In a message dated 7/5/02 9:52:52 PM Central Daylight Time, > > > mbarker@koyote.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > . I > > > > have original deeds of property he bought and sold. If I find a > > Tate I > > > > will give it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Koyote Communications Web Mail > > http://www.koyote.com > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > Genealogists are time unravelers. > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Search List Archives by keyword > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > -- Koyote Communications Web Mail http://www.koyote.com

The Rhoads came from NY to Kentucky then to Texas. I also have Hamiltons in my family. My great grandmother Holmes was a Hamilton. She was born in South Carolina, moved to Mississippi with her parents and siblings and then married my great grandfather and came to Texas. Do you know where your Hamilton's are from? There were alot of Hamilton cousins in Whitewright who are buried in the cemetery there and at Vittetoe cemetery in Kentuckytown. My cousin has the deeds right now but as soon as I see her I'll look through them and let you know if I find a Tate. Deanne > Deanne, > Thank you so very much !!!!! Rev. John Tate died in 1869 and any property > after that would be in the name of Synthia Hamilton Tate. > > Other major surnames I have in the area are: HAMILTON & WALLACE > I haven't done very much on either of them though. I would like to find out > who the parents of S/Cynthia HAMILTON were. > > By the way...Where did your Rhoads come from ? > > Thank you, > Rebecca > > In a message dated 7/5/02 9:52:52 PM Central Daylight Time, > mbarker@koyote.com writes: > > > > . I > > have original deeds of property he bought and sold. If I find a Tate I > > will give it to you. > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > > > -- Koyote Communications Web Mail http://www.koyote.com

I am stuck on a Hamilton as well. Manerva Elinor Hamilton was born in Giles Co., TN in 1832. They then went to Ellis Co., Texas, she married in Jackson Co., Alabama but most of her children were born in Tishamingo Co Mississippi. They last three were born in Fannin Co., TX. Which is where is is buried. She married to William Samuel Scott. I know nothing about her siblings or parents. Does this name sound familiar to anyone? I have found several other Scott researchers but we all have come to a dead end on Manerva. Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Barker" <mbarker@koyote.com> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville-Tate-Hamilton-Wallace > The Rhoads came from NY to Kentucky then to Texas. I also have > Hamiltons in my family. My great grandmother Holmes was a Hamilton. > She was born in South Carolina, moved to Mississippi with her parents > and siblings and then married my great grandfather and came to Texas. > Do you know where your Hamilton's are from? There were alot of > Hamilton cousins in Whitewright who are buried in the cemetery there > and at Vittetoe cemetery in Kentuckytown. > My cousin has the deeds right now but as soon as I see her I'll look > through them and let you know if I find a Tate. > Deanne > > > Deanne, > > Thank you so very much !!!!! Rev. John Tate died in 1869 and any > property > > after that would be in the name of Synthia Hamilton Tate. > > > > Other major surnames I have in the area are: HAMILTON & WALLACE > > I haven't done very much on either of them though. I would like to > find out > > who the parents of S/Cynthia HAMILTON were. > > > > By the way...Where did your Rhoads come from ? > > > > Thank you, > > Rebecca > > > > In a message dated 7/5/02 9:52:52 PM Central Daylight Time, > > mbarker@koyote.com writes: > > > > > > > . I > > > have original deeds of property he bought and sold. If I find a > Tate I > > > will give it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! > > > > > > > > -- > Koyote Communications Web Mail > http://www.koyote.com > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Genealogists are time unravelers. > >

Deanne, Thank you so very much !!!!! Rev. John Tate died in 1869 and any property after that would be in the name of Synthia Hamilton Tate. Other major surnames I have in the area are: HAMILTON & WALLACE I haven't done very much on either of them though. I would like to find out who the parents of S/Cynthia HAMILTON were. By the way...Where did your Rhoads come from ? Thank you, Rebecca In a message dated 7/5/02 9:52:52 PM Central Daylight Time, mbarker@koyote.com writes: > . I > have original deeds of property he bought and sold. If I find a Tate I > will give it to you. >

Does anyone on the list have information on the Andersons who are buried in Burns Cemetery in Trenton? I'm searching for the parents of Oscar S. "Butch" Anderson and his wife Mettie Lee. Will appreciate any help. Thanks list, Linda

Connie, I don't think any came by way of Kentucky. We have not had much luck finding anything about the Browns past my great great grandparents. If I run across a Margaret I'll get back to you! Deanne > Mike, > One of my ancestors in Fannin Co. was Charles Hamilton Bellis/Bellows, who > was born in Callaway Co. Mo. His mother was Margaret Brown. She was born in > Scott Co. Ky. I do not have very much about the Brown family, but I know > that often several members of a family moved together. > Thanks for responding. > Connie in Sugar Land > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Barker" <mbarker@koyote.com> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville > > > > We are not 100% sure. We think North Carolina then Georgia. I know > > that my great grandfather Daniel Brown was born in Georgia. He and his > > brother James came to Texas. Daniel settled in Orangeville and James > > settled in Weston, Collin Co. TX. Their parents were John and Mary > > Runnel Brown. > > > > > Where were your Brown's from before Fannin Co.? > > > Connie in Sugar Land > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike Barker" <mbarker@koyote.com> > > > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:34 AM > > > Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville > > > > > > > > > > Susan, > > > > My mother's cousin, Ralph Brown, who lives at Whitewright could tell > > > > you alot about Orangeville. He is in his 80's and very sharp. My > > > > family was the Brown's and Scott's. We were also related to the > > > > Vestal's who had a swimming pool that was a gathering place for the > > > > children. My grandparents house burned years ago. My great > > > > grandfather, Daniel Brown, trained soldiers during the Civil War on > > the > > > > road next to their homeplace. I can remember where the church and > > > > school stood. The remains of them were still there when I was a > > child. > > > > My mother also told the same story of how Orangeville got it's name. > > > > If she were still alive she could tell you alot. > > > > If you will email me at mbarker@koyote.com we can get together so > > you > > > > can scan what you would like to. > > > > I am also in the process of getting a meeting together about > > Porter's > > > > Cemetery. If anyone is interested please email me. > > > > Deanne Barker > > > > -- > > > > Koyote Communications Web Mail > > > > http://www.koyote.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > > > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > > > > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogists are time unravelers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Koyote Communications Web Mail > > http://www.koyote.com > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Search List Archives by keyword > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > -- Koyote Communications Web Mail http://www.koyote.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1hB.2ACE/165.1 Message Board Post: My father was Elzie Bert Workman. His mother was Edna (king) who married Dee Workman.

Rebecca, My great grandfather Thad Rhoads bought and sold alot of land in Pilot Grove. He also gave the land for the new cemetery. His wife's parents W.W. and Elizabeth Neathery Davis are buried in the old cemetery. I have original deeds of property he bought and sold. If I find a Tate I will give it to you. Deanne > This is the reason my GGGGrandfather Rev. John TATE went to the area..However > he was from TN. If you should ever run into information about him and/or his > family I would love to know what it is !! He is buried in the Old Pilot > Grove Cemetery. My husband and I were in the area last year, and your > right..There isn't much there either. However standing in the New Pilot > Grove Cemetery you look out and see beautiful trees etc. Old Pilot Grove is > just to the left at the end of a very short dirt driveway. > > Thank you, > Rebecca > > In a message dated 7/5/02 10:41:40 AM Central Daylight Time, > hawkins@texoma.net writes: > > > > It had some interesting folks. The Yankees I mentioned were from a > > train (locomotive not wagon) load of them who came to the Orangville > > area to build a Presbyterian community. They bought up most of the > > available lands, created the stores and so on. > > Their burials are over in Valley Creek north of Leonard as they bought > > from where Orangville to Valley Creek and built their churches in both > > places. I will be buying a film soon that covers the Orangeville > > Presbterian Church Records and plan to abstract the records from it. > > That is a period if I recall just about the turn of 1900. No churches > > are there today > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Genealogists are time unravelers. > > > -- Koyote Communications Web Mail http://www.koyote.com

We are not 100% sure. We think North Carolina then Georgia. I know that my great grandfather Daniel Brown was born in Georgia. He and his brother James came to Texas. Daniel settled in Orangeville and James settled in Weston, Collin Co. TX. Their parents were John and Mary Runnel Brown. > Where were your Brown's from before Fannin Co.? > Connie in Sugar Land > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Barker" <mbarker@koyote.com> > To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:34 AM > Subject: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville > > > > Susan, > > My mother's cousin, Ralph Brown, who lives at Whitewright could tell > > you alot about Orangeville. He is in his 80's and very sharp. My > > family was the Brown's and Scott's. We were also related to the > > Vestal's who had a swimming pool that was a gathering place for the > > children. My grandparents house burned years ago. My great > > grandfather, Daniel Brown, trained soldiers during the Civil War on the > > road next to their homeplace. I can remember where the church and > > school stood. The remains of them were still there when I was a child. > > My mother also told the same story of how Orangeville got it's name. > > If she were still alive she could tell you alot. > > If you will email me at mbarker@koyote.com we can get together so you > > can scan what you would like to. > > I am also in the process of getting a meeting together about Porter's > > Cemetery. If anyone is interested please email me. > > Deanne Barker > > -- > > Koyote Communications Web Mail > > http://www.koyote.com > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Genealogists are time unravelers. > > > -- Koyote Communications Web Mail http://www.koyote.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McEntyre Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1hB.2ACE/1419 Message Board Post: Some McEntire descendants from Spartanburg South Carolina are living in Fannin County, TX and I wish they would contact me so i can complete this part of my family tree. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

This is the reason my GGGGrandfather Rev. John TATE went to the area..However he was from TN. If you should ever run into information about him and/or his family I would love to know what it is !! He is buried in the Old Pilot Grove Cemetery. My husband and I were in the area last year, and your right..There isn't much there either. However standing in the New Pilot Grove Cemetery you look out and see beautiful trees etc. Old Pilot Grove is just to the left at the end of a very short dirt driveway. Thank you, Rebecca In a message dated 7/5/02 10:41:40 AM Central Daylight Time, hawkins@texoma.net writes: > It had some interesting folks. The Yankees I mentioned were from a > train (locomotive not wagon) load of them who came to the Orangville > area to build a Presbyterian community. They bought up most of the > available lands, created the stores and so on. > Their burials are over in Valley Creek north of Leonard as they bought > from where Orangville to Valley Creek and built their churches in both > places. I will be buying a film soon that covers the Orangeville > Presbterian Church Records and plan to abstract the records from it. > That is a period if I recall just about the turn of 1900. No churches > are there today

Susan, My mother's cousin, Ralph Brown, who lives at Whitewright could tell you alot about Orangeville. He is in his 80's and very sharp. My family was the Brown's and Scott's. We were also related to the Vestal's who had a swimming pool that was a gathering place for the children. My grandparents house burned years ago. My great grandfather, Daniel Brown, trained soldiers during the Civil War on the road next to their homeplace. I can remember where the church and school stood. The remains of them were still there when I was a child. My mother also told the same story of how Orangeville got it's name. If she were still alive she could tell you alot. If you will email me at mbarker@koyote.com we can get together so you can scan what you would like to. I am also in the process of getting a meeting together about Porter's Cemetery. If anyone is interested please email me. Deanne Barker -- Koyote Communications Web Mail http://www.koyote.com

Just a note to everyone. I'm stillhaving some things dissappear online and scared to add to the Fannin Co. Facts and folks as some dissappeared the other day. Apparently the backup computer was online when I uploaded ( why they didn't block the loading sockets? go figure) I'll try again tomorrow. As for Orangeville. I have a lot of notes ( of course somewhere in these stacks of stuff) . If you were to go out there today you will find a cluster of houses , none of them very old and nothing else. A little sign tells you that you are in orangeville and then out of orangeville. No buisinesses. There are some new houses in the area and I say that with sadness. I hate the land being changed and all these new developments. We are losing agricultural lands fast in some parts of north Texas. 10 yrs ago it was quiet there as far as the area. I hope it doesn't get overrun. But still only 20 houses or so nearby the area that was Orangeville. It never was a town as some are thinking . Places like Orangville had a cotton gin , a couple of churches, a school building and a general store. smaller than Walnut grove on those old Little house on the prairie shows. buildings were not placed close together here in north Texas like on tv shows. Most 'communities' (as opposed to towns outright) had a 'main street' . It would be strung over 20 acres or so the schools and churches as well as a store and the gins would be somewhere nearby on a creek or something. Towns on the other hand had a plat submitted to the courthouse and then usually were located at a crossroads of roads going to a large town or bridge crossing or something. The railroads usually get built along those and so the towns grew up in size while the communities which were usually located somewhere along a rural road or crossroads on a set of winding country roads. The Orangeville area was not called that until late. If you had early folks in the area they didn't use the word until the 1880's. It was named by some Yankees who came there. The area before that was considered the Bonham Post office area. That is why books refer to John Wesley Hardin being born in Bonham. He was born several miles west of where Orangeville is today, just to the East of Whitewright. It was called Bois d'arc because it is near the Bois d'arc 'bottoms'. According to an article Blair springs was there but I haven't gone to locate the springs if they are still there. There is supposed to be a proposed town plat for Blair Springs "the town' in the courthouse but I haven't dug for it yet. I hope to find all the plats sometime. I think that writer made a big mistake and are referring to the Lindsey Srings that are East of Whitewright. There area lot of bits and pieces I know about the area but I need to fit them to a timeline to get the story right. I used to know Katherine Summers , she has passed now. We used to be volunteers together over at Frontier Village in Grayson co. She told me tons of stuff about Orangeville that I wrote down. Her family was from there and she grew up most of the time there. The original use of the land by settlers was as a big camp for settlers to stay in awaiting their land grants. This was in the 1830's and early 40's. With 1852 being when most families actually settled and made farms there. Grayson county and Fannin received a large portion of its original land owners from these camps. They did build a little school to use. If you look at a map usually it will show orangeville on it. Then look to where Porters Chapel Cemetery is. that area is all "Orangeville" as is down to Chinquapin creek where that area later is called 'Medlintown" due to the school and store that was built there. There was a hotel at one time 'in orangeville' but that was at someones home nearby, not on a street as such. It was a busy place and probably would have become a full town but the railroad passed the area by and went to Whitewright and Trenton (both became towns all of a sudden when this happened) . Orangville had been an area to go to from these two later towns. so the population moved over to the railroad and they put any buildings they wanted to move on rollers and moved them there too. It had some interesting folks. The Yankees I mentioned were from a train (locomotive not wagon) load of them who came to the Orangville area to build a Presbyterian community. They bought up most of the available lands, created the stores and so on. Their burials are over in Valley Creek north of Leonard as they bought from where Orangville to Valley Creek and built their churches in both places. I will be buying a film soon that covers the Orangeville Presbterian Church Records and plan to abstract the records from it. That is a period if I recall just about the turn of 1900. No churches are there today. The Yankees were from new york. Their is an historical marker at the Presbyterian Church in Leonard that tells some of it but in doing research I found that marker is full of mistakes, including the fact it memorializes the wrong building! They tore down the building they think they have. The Neice of Samuel F.B. Morse of New York settled the Valley Creek and Orangeville area ,some families stayed but later many went back to New York. Her husband died in 1905 and a year later she dug him up and went back to New York city. Some of the names you would recognize like Colgate and Rockwell. But many returned to New York. The story goes they had visitors who came out from New York to visit and seeing the bois d'arc trees with their fruit on them thought they were orange trees so the people went along with the joke. Porters chapel is the main cemetery for that area so you can see how spread out it is . All the family names in that are the early area settlers with Valley Creek being the location of the "Orangeville" town name settlers. I have heard tales of bitterness toward these New Yorkers and their money buying up the land so the other families were land locked and could not expand to accomodate their children's farm needs. Times were hard and the main NY ers were people with money. They made a mint in money exporting those 'oranges' that is where all the hedges in the north and in europe come from. The bois d'arc tree is an ancient tree , scientist have proven it is from Fannin county area originally . All the bois d 'arc trees in the world came from here. I think about that every time i see pictures of WWI where those field hedges were so hard to get through. They were our trees! Thousands of railroad cars were full of those'oranges. Around here they are called 'bo dark apples' and 'bo dark oranges' , other places they are called Osage oranges , hedge apples, and other names. each one carries a half million seeds! I love them . The word is french meaning wood of the bow, Native americans used the wood for making bows. Leonard and Trenton both were heavily influenced by all of that area's settlers. Not so much to the north of the Orangeville because the boid d'arc bottoms were it flooded and was considered unhealthy. Whitewright of course also had plenty of families involved but I dont' see any of the New York group in that town that I know of, thy mostly resettled into Trenton and Leonard. Most lived around Leonard, Orangeville was the westernmost area of the lands they bought. The area has some Indian attack stories very early and was a hunting ground. It has various springs in it and plenty of woods. Woods were not all over the place. In the early days the woods were in low places and along creeks and rivers. The rest was a grassland. That is why names like Pilot Grove creep into use, it was unusual and you could see the 'grove' from far off so it was a Piloting landmark. Only with mankind with their fences and their buildings and utility lines have all the large tree growths replaced the mostly grasslands in the higher land areas of the county. These piloting tree's and groves were caused by a dead bird or an animal that had a seed in them. Orangeville is a pretty area of slighly rolling hills and large fields of agriculture. Creek bottoms and woods , winding roads. I knew the man who used to grade the road with a team of mules in the 1920's . He spent every dry day with a team of mules and a blade grading the road from Trenton to Whitewright , thru Orangeville and back to Trenton. It took most of the day , that was the orignal highway 69! Susan in Texas Betty Welch wrote: > > Nell : > > This is one reason that I would like to know more of Orangeville. Dr. > William Franklin Welch was Mrs. George W. Bush's wife's grgrandfather. She > is a cousin to my husband. It was very interesting to find this out. > > Betty Welch >

My great grandparents settled in Orangeville in early 1886, from Tennessee. They had 5 children from 1886 to 1895. The family moved to Whitewight between 1900 and 1910. so, the kids must have attended the school in Orangeville. If anyone has documents that may identify students from 1890 to 1900, please contact me at dlcatesoo@msn.com. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Barker Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 12:16 AM To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville

Betty Welch shared some infornmation about Orangeville, my great grandfather settled there in 1886 after leaving Tennessee. Betty, you mentioned you have school pictures, I'm wondering what year and if student names are given. I have great uncles and an aunt born in Orangeville. Possibly you hae some information I could use. You can contact me directly if you like at dlcatesoo@msn.com. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Welch Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 6:37 AM To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville Nell : This is one reason that I would like to know more of Orangeville. Dr. William Franklin Welch was Mrs. George W. Bush's wife's grgrandfather. She is a cousin to my husband. It was very interesting to find this out. Betty Welch

Looking for any information on the Faulk and Hopper families. I believe they lived around Telephone. I am particularly looking for Archie Lee Faulk who married Minnie Hattie Hopper abt 1892. Archie is (I think) the son of Robert. Minnie is the daughter of E.D. Hopper & Louisa Boyd Hopper.

Nell : This is one reason that I would like to know more of Orangeville. Dr. William Franklin Welch was Mrs. George W. Bush's wife's grgrandfather. She is a cousin to my husband. It was very interesting to find this out. Betty Welch ----- Original Message ----- From: "NellT" <billnell@flash.net> To: <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville > George W. Bush's wife Laura was a Welch. Perhaps we will all be interested > in this from Orangeville. Nell > -----Original Message----- > From: Hawkins <hawkins@texoma.net> > To: TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com <TXFANNIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [TXFANNIN-L] Orangeville > > > >wonderful. Anyone with such things I would love a scan ! I want to > >develop a album for all the schools and am working on a list. I will > >start again on things monday. > >The other day I uploaded a page that promply disappeared when the backup > >computer at rootsweb went offline. I give up for a short while till I > >get the go ahead. I am familiar with Dr.Holmes name but not too much on > >his columns and would love them. I heard that he had a cemetery at one > >time that was a family cemetery originally just to the west of the > >overpass near 121 and 69 intersection. But that when the railroad and > >such things were built they moved them into the Burns cemetery. > >Is that true? > >Susan > >I would love anything of Grayson also. The two counties are part and > >parcel. Like two pieces of a puzzle they rely so much on each other and > >the history roots are intertwined. > > > >Mike Barker wrote: > >> > >> My grandmother and great grandfather taught and lived at Orangeville. > >> My mother was born and raised there. In fact I have the bell my great > >> grandfather J.W. Henry rang at the school. I also have several > >> pictures of classes taken in front of the school. Sometime I need to > >> get with you Susan because I also have alot of old columns from the > >> Trenton Tribune written by my other great grandfather Dr. W.C. Holmes. > >> There might be some things you would like to scan. > >> I also have a picture of a class at Pilot Grove. > >> Deanne Barker > >> > >> > I have some stuff on Orangville , I will be having more time. I hated > >> to > >> > but I gave up three major websites so I could have more balance and do > >> > better justice to the Grayson County and Fannin County lists and > >> > website. > >> > I shouldnt' have gotten in so deep ( It was fun though! I was > >> > genealogically maxed out! )but I can put in more time starting > >> Monday . > >> > I was going to dig up your email and write you about that. Everyso > >> > often some people don't leave my mind (or heart for that matter) Dr. > >> > Welch is in that latter catagory. I sure would have liked to have > >> known > >> > him. > >> > I would love a biographical story on him. With Genweb pages there > >> is > >> > no limit to sizes of pages so things do not have to be brief. > >> > any pictures maps or document scans can be added. > >> > susan > >> > Oddly , I wonder --- since I believe with no doubts in the > >> hereafter > >> > -- am I doing this stuff for now or just so's I'll have lots of > >> friends > >> > up there when I get there? Some of your ancestors I have gotten to > >> know > >> > so well! Surely it will be an ice breaker when I get up yonder! > >> > > >> > > >> > Betty Welch wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Susan : > >> > > > >> > > If you run across anything on Orangeville, in all this stuff > >> > > you are doing. Please send me any info on Orangeville. > >> > > You will never know the joy you helped me to bring my > >> > > father-in-law, before his death last year. He wanted to > >> > > know where his grandfather was buried. With your assistance on the > >> > > Dr.William Franklin Welch, of Orangeville, Fannin County, Texas. I > >> was able > >> > > to give him that info, and also the pictures of the graveyard, that > >> > > you so kindly furnished me. I would like to do a kind of > >> > > autobiography of this Dr. Welch if Possible. Thank you > >> > > for all the endless work you do for all of us on this site. > >> > > > >> > > Betty S. Welch > >> > > > >> > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > >> > > Threaded Archives > >> > > Search List by subject line in a time period > >> > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Koyote Communications Web Mail > >> http://www.koyote.com > > > > > ==== TXFANNIN Mailing List ==== > Your listowner Susan Hawkins & > she can be reached at owner-TXFANNIN@lists.rootsweb.com > >