Pennsylvania Dutch and Black dutch are not the same. eva ----- Original Message ----- From: <xmasmom@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Black Dutch > My gggggrandfather, Matthew Haning came to this country 2 Nov 1752. All > records of him ( and he is well documented-- but not by me) as Black > Dutch or Pennsylvania Dutch. Matthew was a Palatine German. > > The Palatines were from the Palatinate State in the old German Empire. > Refugees from persecution many came to America and settled, especially in > Pa. > > The definition of palatine, " of or pertaining to a palace, possessing > royal privileges, as, a count or earl palatine; an officer of the > imperial palace; A NATIVE OR INHABITANT OF THE PALATINATE. " From this > definition "palatine" may refer to royalty or simply to persons residing > in or natives of the Palatinate state - earls, counts and chimney sweeps > alike. > > Pennsylvania Dutch refers to the High German dialect used by German > colonist of the Mennonite faith and other German religious groups many of > whom settled in Pa. Although none were from the Netherlands they were > referred to as Dutch by the non-German speaking colonists who > misunderstood and mispronounced the word "Deutsche". Pronounced like > Doysch it sounds like Dutch but Deutsche means German. The Pa. Dutch > handle was also liberally used to describe the other Germans in that > general area. As to the "Black Dutch" reference it is likely that the > term was used to describe the conservative black attire associated with > the "Pa. Dutch" and which is still favored by many. > > The above is from "Matthew Haning (c 1730 - 1807) and Descendants". by > the late James Leslie Haning > > Alice Moore > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >