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    1. Re: [ERATH] lake...Garner and Crockett families
    2. Charles A. Wyly
    3. CORRECTION- I listed Imogene as a Carey- we had the same grandmother- our moms were sisters. Actually she was the daughter of Tom Hatchett and Ada Carey- Imogene HatchettTom had a type of emphosema from WW1 Pneumonia in Army. He drove truck and hauled soldiers to Galveston troop ships , sick in until the Flu brouht him down. Some were kept in pup tents in Galveston and given medicine there. he recoverred enough to do farm work in field, garden, and livestock, but would have to stop and heave at times. Similar to Dad's Asthma. Most of the Carey sisters and brothers of mom had Smallpox and missed almost a year of school- The pockets were as large as a finger- and as long. If they turned in Bed and burst one, others would form from the puss touching the clean skin. All survived, but some dropped out- in 1918 it was not considerred necessary for farm girls to finish 11 years of school and graduate or test out. Dad roomed with Virgil Underwood in the home where Charlie Neblitt was born. he finished Tarleton and taught one year at Harmony, near , near Meridian. he had studied Spanish but Harmony first Graders spoke one or 2 languages- Norwegian or German. he left theaching and started farming. Mom kept all the books and figured the income tax and he would help on some instructions. Virgil became a well known Vocational Ag teacher. What a change- are you familiar with handwriting not being taught any more? I have a granddaughter who has a scholarship to Texas A&M next year and she nor her sisters can read script writing or do it- they print. The kleyboard has taken over. Charles Wyly On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:24:25 -0500 "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> writes: > Dave Garner lived at Selden and son James marred my first cousin > Imogene > Carey. James worked for Erath County REA Their son Jim Garner lives > in > Garland and works - or worked- at the old Chance- Vought Aircraft > plant > in Gramd Prairie and Imogene sold the Selden Hatchett farm to David > Carey. His family also runs THE CORN POPPER in Garland, which > employs > over 20 people in sales, catering parties, or whatever. Dave Garner > bought the Selden 4 line Party telephone lines and switchboard from > John > Kay, who married Ida Minerva Wyly in Georgia, and John was the first > store owner in Selden, across from them. Tom Payne, Ida's brother in > law, > was the first postmaster and ran the Kay store until it was sold out > to > Tom Hatchett and Vea Cornett Hatchett. <Some of the above group are > buried in Selden ( Hatchett) Cemetery near the Duffau Creek , in > former > Wyly Brothers Dairy. James Garner's sister was partially physically > handicapped and ran the Seden Switchboard where parties on one line > called her to switch them to another line- Each wall phone had a > combination of long and short rings, or cranks of the Ringer, for a > number. Neighbors learned the numbers, and if a neighbor was called > and > didn't answer, a neighbor would pick up and report the location of > the > one being called, if they could see him plowing- or gone to town. > One > line went in To Stephenville. Johnsville and Fairy had some early > phone > lines, but the Selden one was reported to be earlier than > Stephenville > phones. Johnsville phone lines may have joined Selden befor emy > time, > across David Carey's or Johnson Ranch land, Some telephonme > insulators > canh still be found on fence posts or buildings. No full time > maintenance- just subscribers came to do necessary line work. > > If I am not mistaken, once in the early 1940's my Aunt Capt. Mary E. > Wyly, Army Nurse Coprps, , called them once from Australia. This > would > have made more sense to me if someone in Stephenville called > Grandparents > to come to Stephenville at a given time and she would call back > from > Australia, before she left for 2 battle zones in New Guinea, Leyte, > Luzon, Manilla and others. She was on the shipping list to go to the > Invasion of Japan before the Atomic Bomb made her trip unnecessary. > Grandpa had limited hearing due to Typhoid Fever when 12. > > Dr. Nell Garner, Jimmy Garner's sister, dau. of Mom's Niece, > Imogene, now > teaches at Baylor School of Medicine in Dallas. She left > Stephenville > with Dr. Naylor's Daughter for a term as a Medical Missionary in > India. > Jame's brother included Wayne and Milton Garner. > > Others have confirmed that other Garners, connection not known, > owned a > ranch past the Country Club Lake and on the west side of > 281.Stephenville Country Club lake , on the East side of Hwy 281was > about half way to the park my family called the Garner Lake. Didn't > think > Stephenville owned 3 Parks- two well outside the city limits. > > The Erath County Garner Lake and stone shelters and paved picnic > area > across the lake from 281 , and the Dam was built by PWA or WPA or > CCC- > (Works Project Administration or Civilian Conservation Corps) Not > sure, > but the NYA (NYA) may have also played a role . Aren't some Garners > buried in Hightower Cemetery??? Before the park closed past Country > Club > Lake, it had developed to what some Churchgoers considerred a evil > place > for Erath County kids to stop coming from Mingus or Mineral Wells. > Some > wanted Erath County Commisioners or City Council or anyone they > thought > had influence to close it. Either the PWA or The WPA was declared > unconstitutional and it was reorganized under a different name after > Roosevelt had followed Hoover's plans left in the Capitol in > organized > boxes to add some judges to the Supreme Court who would be more > favorable. Hoover had tried going that direction but the Supreme > Court > stopped him at every turn and his term ran out. ( That's what the > Big > Boys told me .) I was told in Erath County Schools that " It Does > not > matter who gets the credit as long as one does the right thing". > Many > Politicians do not live by that code of ethics in any party. > > The NYA also built the nearest building to I-35 in Waco University > High > School, and it was used by soldiers at the beginning of the war to > train > soldiers in certain Technologies. I have substituted as a teacher > there > in various classes and ISS and seen the letters in the floor on > Marble > of the NYC or NYA. > > Johnsville, at about the time of the Federal Programs had turned one > Hat > and Cloakroom- or mud room today, into a hot lunch kitchen, run by > Teacher Aide Cloye Little Sherrod .Our outhouses were separate > buildings > from the Cloak Rooms and the classrooms. . . Marshall was teaching > upper grades and Math and Today, the Jr High where Marshal retired > as > Principal in Grand Prairie carries his name. > > I just had a direct inquiry from a descendant of John Crockett's > brother, who also rode with Quantrill. John settled in Pony Creek > before > leaving with his daughter and son in law , a Beach boy from Pony > Creek. > They went to Quannah, Texas, where some, but not all, say he is > buried. > His headstone is in Quannah, bit one legend says he was found nearer > Paris, Texas shot in his blanket by cowboys on a trail drive whose > boss > would not hire him. . This one wanted to know of his connection of > the > Selden and Stephenville Crocketts. I do not have that. Do you? > > Charles Wyly > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 08:34:31 -0700 "Charles J.Rogers" > <CRogers@houston.rr.com> writes: > > 1. John Nance Garner of Uvalde, not Bonham, was VP in FDR’s > > > first and > > second terms. > > 2. Garner State Park is on the Frio River between Concan > and > > Leakey > > (pronounced Coon-can and Lakey). > > 3. Sam Rayburn was from Bonham. He was Speaker of the House > > > when Lyndon > > Johnson was Majority Leader of the Senate and DDE was President. > > They were > > both powerful allies of FDR in the House when Sam Russell was > there > > and > > Garner was VP. They brought us things like Social Security, REA, > > pretty rock > > buildings in state parks, and employment for men whose families > were > > hungry. > > 4. The lake north of Stephenville was in a state park, but > I > > thought it > > was called Stephenville State Park. I learned to swim there about > > 1947. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

    05/10/2005 04:03:38
    1. Re: [ERATH] lake...Garner and Crockett families
    2. Callie Waits
    3. Very Interesting stories! I love them. Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] lake...Garner and Crockett families > CORRECTION- I listed Imogene as a Carey- we had the same grandmother- our > moms were sisters. Actually she was the daughter of Tom Hatchett and Ada > Carey- Imogene HatchettTom had a type of emphosema from WW1 Pneumonia in > Army. He drove truck and hauled soldiers to Galveston troop ships , sick > in until the Flu brouht him down. Some were kept in pup tents in > Galveston and given medicine there. he recoverred enough to do farm work > in field, garden, and livestock, but would have to stop and heave at > times. Similar to Dad's Asthma. > Most of the Carey sisters and brothers of mom had Smallpox and missed > almost a year of school- The pockets were as large as a finger- and as > long. If they turned in Bed and burst one, others would form from the > puss touching the clean skin. All survived, but some dropped out- in 1918 > it was not considerred necessary for farm girls to finish 11 years of > school and graduate or test out. > > Dad roomed with Virgil Underwood in the home where Charlie Neblitt was > born. he finished Tarleton and taught one year at Harmony, near , near > Meridian. he had studied Spanish but Harmony first Graders spoke one or 2 > languages- Norwegian or German. he left theaching and started farming. > Mom kept all the books and figured the income tax and he would help on > some instructions. Virgil became a well known Vocational Ag teacher. > > What a change- are you familiar with handwriting not being taught any > more? I have a granddaughter who has a scholarship to Texas A&M next year > and she nor her sisters can read script writing or do it- they print. The > kleyboard has taken over. > > Charles Wyly > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:24:25 -0500 "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > writes: > > Dave Garner lived at Selden and son James marred my first cousin > > Imogene > > Carey. James worked for Erath County REA Their son Jim Garner lives > > in > > Garland and works - or worked- at the old Chance- Vought Aircraft > > plant > > in Gramd Prairie and Imogene sold the Selden Hatchett farm to David > > Carey. His family also runs THE CORN POPPER in Garland, which > > employs > > over 20 people in sales, catering parties, or whatever. Dave Garner > > bought the Selden 4 line Party telephone lines and switchboard from > > John > > Kay, who married Ida Minerva Wyly in Georgia, and John was the first > > store owner in Selden, across from them. Tom Payne, Ida's brother in > > law, > > was the first postmaster and ran the Kay store until it was sold out > > to > > Tom Hatchett and Vea Cornett Hatchett. <Some of the above group are > > buried in Selden ( Hatchett) Cemetery near the Duffau Creek , in > > former > > Wyly Brothers Dairy. James Garner's sister was partially physically > > handicapped and ran the Seden Switchboard where parties on one line > > called her to switch them to another line- Each wall phone had a > > combination of long and short rings, or cranks of the Ringer, for a > > number. Neighbors learned the numbers, and if a neighbor was called > > and > > didn't answer, a neighbor would pick up and report the location of > > the > > one being called, if they could see him plowing- or gone to town. > > One > > line went in To Stephenville. Johnsville and Fairy had some early > > phone > > lines, but the Selden one was reported to be earlier than > > Stephenville > > phones. Johnsville phone lines may have joined Selden befor emy > > time, > > across David Carey's or Johnson Ranch land, Some telephonme > > insulators > > canh still be found on fence posts or buildings. No full time > > maintenance- just subscribers came to do necessary line work. > > > > If I am not mistaken, once in the early 1940's my Aunt Capt. Mary E. > > Wyly, Army Nurse Coprps, , called them once from Australia. This > > would > > have made more sense to me if someone in Stephenville called > > Grandparents > > to come to Stephenville at a given time and she would call back > > from > > Australia, before she left for 2 battle zones in New Guinea, Leyte, > > Luzon, Manilla and others. She was on the shipping list to go to the > > Invasion of Japan before the Atomic Bomb made her trip unnecessary. > > Grandpa had limited hearing due to Typhoid Fever when 12. > > > > Dr. Nell Garner, Jimmy Garner's sister, dau. of Mom's Niece, > > Imogene, now > > teaches at Baylor School of Medicine in Dallas. She left > > Stephenville > > with Dr. Naylor's Daughter for a term as a Medical Missionary in > > India. > > Jame's brother included Wayne and Milton Garner. > > > > Others have confirmed that other Garners, connection not known, > > owned a > > ranch past the Country Club Lake and on the west side of > > 281.Stephenville Country Club lake , on the East side of Hwy 281was > > about half way to the park my family called the Garner Lake. Didn't > > think > > Stephenville owned 3 Parks- two well outside the city limits. > > > > The Erath County Garner Lake and stone shelters and paved picnic > > area > > across the lake from 281 , and the Dam was built by PWA or WPA or > > CCC- > > (Works Project Administration or Civilian Conservation Corps) Not > > sure, > > but the NYA (NYA) may have also played a role . Aren't some Garners > > buried in Hightower Cemetery??? Before the park closed past Country > > Club > > Lake, it had developed to what some Churchgoers considerred a evil > > place > > for Erath County kids to stop coming from Mingus or Mineral Wells. > > Some > > wanted Erath County Commisioners or City Council or anyone they > > thought > > had influence to close it. Either the PWA or The WPA was declared > > unconstitutional and it was reorganized under a different name after > > Roosevelt had followed Hoover's plans left in the Capitol in > > organized > > boxes to add some judges to the Supreme Court who would be more > > favorable. Hoover had tried going that direction but the Supreme > > Court > > stopped him at every turn and his term ran out. ( That's what the > > Big > > Boys told me .) I was told in Erath County Schools that " It Does > > not > > matter who gets the credit as long as one does the right thing". > > Many > > Politicians do not live by that code of ethics in any party. > > > > The NYA also built the nearest building to I-35 in Waco University > > High > > School, and it was used by soldiers at the beginning of the war to > > train > > soldiers in certain Technologies. I have substituted as a teacher > > there > > in various classes and ISS and seen the letters in the floor on > > Marble > > of the NYC or NYA. > > > > Johnsville, at about the time of the Federal Programs had turned one > > Hat > > and Cloakroom- or mud room today, into a hot lunch kitchen, run by > > Teacher Aide Cloye Little Sherrod .Our outhouses were separate > > buildings > > from the Cloak Rooms and the classrooms. . . Marshall was teaching > > upper grades and Math and Today, the Jr High where Marshal retired > > as > > Principal in Grand Prairie carries his name. > > > > I just had a direct inquiry from a descendant of John Crockett's > > brother, who also rode with Quantrill. John settled in Pony Creek > > before > > leaving with his daughter and son in law , a Beach boy from Pony > > Creek. > > They went to Quannah, Texas, where some, but not all, say he is > > buried. > > His headstone is in Quannah, bit one legend says he was found nearer > > Paris, Texas shot in his blanket by cowboys on a trail drive whose > > boss > > would not hire him. . This one wanted to know of his connection of > > the > > Selden and Stephenville Crocketts. I do not have that. Do you? > > > > Charles Wyly > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 08:34:31 -0700 "Charles J.Rogers" > > <CRogers@houston.rr.com> writes: > > > 1. John Nance Garner of Uvalde, not Bonham, was VP in FDR’s > > > > > first and > > > second terms. > > > 2. Garner State Park is on the Frio River between Concan > > and > > > Leakey > > > (pronounced Coon-can and Lakey). > > > 3. Sam Rayburn was from Bonham. He was Speaker of the House > > > > > when Lyndon > > > Johnson was Majority Leader of the Senate and DDE was President. > > > They were > > > both powerful allies of FDR in the House when Sam Russell was > > there > > > and > > > Garner was VP. They brought us things like Social Security, REA, > > > pretty rock > > > buildings in state parks, and employment for men whose families > > were > > > hungry. > > > 4. The lake north of Stephenville was in a state park, but > > I > > > thought it > > > was called Stephenville State Park. I learned to swim there about > > > 1947. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

    05/10/2005 05:20:03