Yes,,,,,,,,if its the juanita I know she lives on east road. 254-965-4185, i believe her husbands name is George. thats their phone number. Eva ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ldfrje@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: [ERATH] Juanita Martin > Does anyone know if there is a Juanita Martin living in Stephenville, Texas? > > Lola > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

McCleskey Round-Up 2005 Dear McCleskey Descendant: It's been five years since our last round-up of the descendants of early Americans James or Joseph McCleskey and we're hoping you would like to get together again. The tentative date for the one-day reunion is October 8, 2005 and although a place has not been chosen yet, we expect it will be in the central Texas area around Stephenville. This will coincide with the annual meeting October 9 at the old Rock Church nearby for those who would like to attend that, too. The committee is exploring various locations. Please reply with your answers to these questions -- and any other thoughts you have -- within a week so we can continue planning for a successful "round up" of all the McCleskey cousins. 1. Would you plan to attend on October 8? 2. How many people from your family would attend? 3. Are you in favor of a potluck luncheon? 4. Would you be staying in a motel? Also, we are anxious to hear your ideas and preferences relating to the reunion -- please submit your suggestions to the committee. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Margaret McCleskey Dolores Reed Bob and Linda Williams This includes any family connected to the McCleskeys. Some of these families are Kiker, York, Adams, Ingley, Jackson. To be added to the mailing list, send your name and address to Dolores Reed Djwreed@aol.com

Well, that might be because I spelled my name wrong? Please let me try again? Thank you. rickandsusan@swva.net

Hello, My husband & I are thinking of moving to Erath. We have lots of questions. Would some of you be willing to discuss the area with us off of the list? Thank You! rickandsusa@swva.net

Does anyone know if there is a Juanita Martin living in Stephenville, Texas? Lola

Hello Clyde Thanks for answering my email. My Russells and Doty also came from Missouri. Harlin Doty had a 1st wife named Sara Clinkingbeard, they had a lot of children and lived in Mo.. I think it was one his children that married an Edmonds. Her name was Martha ? Edmonds. I took a picture of her and her husbands stones. She was the mother of one of our neighbors by the name of Newton Edmonds. He said she was a sister to my husbands Grandmother, Dora Clark. Dora's father died in Monitau County Mo. in a water well accident. Dora's mother and father were married in Laclede County MO. Anyway it was worth a try. Thank you very much for your answer and good luck on finding your ancestors Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "edmonds" <edmonds01@bresnan.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Off Topic > Hi Calliet , > Probably not. My grandparents lived near Blufdale,and he came from MO > His father was killed in MO at age 22 so I know very little of my ancestry. > > Callie Waits wrote: > > >Hello Clyde, > > I noticed the name Edmonds on your email and was wondering if you're any > >kin to Harlin Doty that married my husband's great grandmother, Sarah > >Russell Clark Doty. They are buried at Crawford Texas. There are Edmonds > >buried beside them and I know they are kin. Harlin and Sarah had a son named > >Tinsley Doty. > > I would love to find some of their family. > >Respectfully > >Callie > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "edmonds" <edmonds01@bresnan.net> > >To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:10 AM > >Subject: Re: [ERATH] Off Topic > > > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >>I attepted to respond to your request but the message bounced back with > >>no such address. > >>Clyde > >> > >>Rick and Susan wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hello, > >>> > >>>My husband & I are thinking of moving to Erath. > >>>We have lots of questions. > >>>Would some of you be willing to discuss the area with us off of the list? > >>> > >>>Thank You! > >>> > >>>rickandsusa@swva.net > >>> > >>> > >>>==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >>>--- Author Retains Copyright --- > >>>-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >>>Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >>>Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >>>ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >>--- Author Retains Copyright --- > >>-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >>Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >>Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >>ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >--- Author Retains Copyright --- > >-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Hi Calliet , Probably not. My grandparents lived near Blufdale,and he came from MO His father was killed in MO at age 22 so I know very little of my ancestry. Callie Waits wrote: >Hello Clyde, > I noticed the name Edmonds on your email and was wondering if you're any >kin to Harlin Doty that married my husband's great grandmother, Sarah >Russell Clark Doty. They are buried at Crawford Texas. There are Edmonds >buried beside them and I know they are kin. Harlin and Sarah had a son named >Tinsley Doty. > I would love to find some of their family. >Respectfully >Callie >----- Original Message ----- >From: "edmonds" <edmonds01@bresnan.net> >To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:10 AM >Subject: Re: [ERATH] Off Topic > > > > >>Hi, >>I attepted to respond to your request but the message bounced back with >>no such address. >>Clyde >> >>Rick and Susan wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>My husband & I are thinking of moving to Erath. >>>We have lots of questions. >>>Would some of you be willing to discuss the area with us off of the list? >>> >>>Thank You! >>> >>>rickandsusa@swva.net >>> >>> >>>==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >>>--- Author Retains Copyright --- >>>-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved >>>Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >>>Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >>>ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >>--- Author Retains Copyright --- >>-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved >>Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >>Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >>ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >

Hello Clyde, I noticed the name Edmonds on your email and was wondering if you're any kin to Harlin Doty that married my husband's great grandmother, Sarah Russell Clark Doty. They are buried at Crawford Texas. There are Edmonds buried beside them and I know they are kin. Harlin and Sarah had a son named Tinsley Doty. I would love to find some of their family. Respectfully Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "edmonds" <edmonds01@bresnan.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Off Topic > Hi, > I attepted to respond to your request but the message bounced back with > no such address. > Clyde > > Rick and Susan wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >My husband & I are thinking of moving to Erath. > >We have lots of questions. > >Would some of you be willing to discuss the area with us off of the list? > > > >Thank You! > > > >rickandsusa@swva.net > > > > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >--- Author Retains Copyright --- > >-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

sure susan,,,,,,,,,,,just ask emrog@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick and Susan" <rickandsusan@swva.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: [ERATH] Off Topic > Hello, > > My husband & I are thinking of moving to Erath. > We have lots of questions. > Would some of you be willing to discuss the area with us off of the list? > > Thank You! > > rickandsusa@swva.net > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Hi, I attepted to respond to your request but the message bounced back with no such address. Clyde Rick and Susan wrote: >Hello, > >My husband & I are thinking of moving to Erath. >We have lots of questions. >Would some of you be willing to discuss the area with us off of the list? > >Thank You! > >rickandsusa@swva.net > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >

Cindy, Thank you very much. Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Shipman" <cshipman@htcomp.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath 1896 map > Callie - someone may have already responded to your note about the specific > map order number...try > http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/aris/maps/maplookup.php3?mapnum=4599 and > then click on map 4599. Ordering instructions are posted online. > > By the way, if you are interested in seeing what Stephenville proper looked > like about this time, locate the Sanborn Insurance maps. They are available > online through the TexShare Database (if you live in Texas) and other > academic facilities. > > Cindy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Callie Waits" <calliewaits@digitex.net> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:52 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath 1896 map > > > > Thank you Cindy. Is there a special number for it? I do want the one with > > the Land owners names. Do they make these for other counties? > > Thanks for you Response > > Callie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cindy Shipman" <cshipman@htcomp.net> > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath 1896 map > > > > > > > Texas State Archives > > > Lorenzo de Zavala State Archives & Library Building > > > 1201 Brazos Street > > > P.O. Box 12927 > > > Austin TX 78711-2927 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Callie Waits" <calliewaits@digitex.net> > > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:24 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath 1896 map > > > > > > > > > > Cindy, Do you have the address for the Texas State Archives that you > > > > ordered your Map from? > > > > Eva, I will send you some money for the map you sent me. > > > > Thanks > > > > Callie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Cindy Shipman" <cshipman@htcomp.net> > > > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:45 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath 1896 map > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a copy of this map too (or one about the same time period). I > > > > ordered > > > > > it from the Texas State Archives ... I think they charged $1 plus > > > postage. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: <mygen@att.net> > > > > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:51 PM > > > > > Subject: [ERATH] Erath 1896 map > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an 1896 map of Erath County that shows all of the land > owners > > > at > > > > > that > > > > > > time and a few from neighboring Hood and Palo Pinto Counties. The > > map > > > > is > > > > > 18" by > > > > > > 24". The printing is very small and a lot of it must be read with > a > > > > > magnifying > > > > > > glass. I ordered it from > > > > > > > > > > > > KJ5KE > > > > > > Tim W. Seawolf > > > > > > P.O. Box 3282 > > > > > > Quail Valley, CA 92587 > > > > > > > > > > > > about 5 years ago. I do not remember how much it cost. > > > > > > > > > > > > As time allows, I will do look ups on the map if you can tell be > the > > > > > general > > > > > > area of the county where you think that your ancestor might have > > been > > > in > > > > > 1896. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not send requests to the list, but to me instead. Put > > 1896 > > > > map > > > > > in the > > > > > > subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Margaret McCleskey, Arlington, Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Hi, Again, I updated my AVG Antivirus tonight and deleted a "Lottery notification " after setting on Full heading and sent it Juno Support, even though I had not found a Virus. Then went to my address book and found it shuffled and names added to the list- some on Txerath and tha address of the "Lottery Notification letter.I had not posted these names to my Address book. Apparently some on Txerath have not been geting posts for the last 3 days. Someone please contact the List Master- Is it still Tim Seawolf ? Charles Wyly --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Callie Waits" <calliewaits@digitex.net> To: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 21:13:10 -0600 Subject: Re: Message-ID: <00bd01c50e55$4986b0a0$0ee35d44@calliewaits> References: <20050208.204104.-268463.1.Wyly1@juno.com> Is this an advertizement for someone's books? Weird!! Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <peggyj@our-town.com>; <calliewaits@digitex.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:41 PM > Hi, > I am not recognizing this address and how did it come to the top of my > address book after the Euro Lottery was fowarded to Juno Supporet desk > ??? > AVG was just updated and did not detect a Virus. > > Please Clue me in > >

What is this about? Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Broughton" <peggyj@our-town.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Books on Erath County > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Dortha, are you talking about the Daily Uploads? I haven't received any since the 3rd. Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dortha Greenlee" <dgreen909h@cox.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Old Erath > I haven't had any e-mil from Rootsweb in two days it seems. Is it down? > Dortha > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles A.Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Old Erath > > > > Hi, Mike, some Selden land leased for $300.00 per acre last year. From > > Lipan to Weatherford andtowards Wise and Denton Counties may go for > > $350.00 per acre- The Denton- Wise County gas wells are from the same > > deep strata of flint hard shale many feet thick and from 400 to 1000 feet > > deep. This is now supplying many States between Decatur and Canada. As > > long as Crude is above $40.00 per barrel they will drill for the gas. > > Many years agpo, appx. 1950, Grandad and Wyly and Kay families leased for > > about $5.00 to $10.00 per acre. A test well was capped at Selden Church > > which had some oil, 2 layers of Coal and some Gas, like the shallow Laney > > Wells. > > > > So far, if Grandad's old home place is leased, we have not seen our half > > of the lease money. Others adjoining it is leased.Kay land joined Grandad > > on 2 sides- Three , counting Roy's summer place in "Hatchettville". > > > > Good to hear from you, > > Charles > > > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:43:37 -0800 Mike Furman <mefurman@wayfarer1.com> > > writes: > >> Dear Erath fans, > >> Wonders never cease! Mr grandfather, John P. Kay, died about 1937, > >> and last > >> month my cousins and I were informed he held mineral rights on > >> little pieces > >> of land in Erath County. A company wants to drill, so we all signed > >> before > >> a notary as to our identity and now have an extra $100 bucks with > >> dreams of > >> more should anything spurt up! Granddad Kay was broke when he died. > >> He had > >> several farms/ranches around Seldon at one time, but Granny always > >> said he > >> was a master at making bad deals. Wouldn't he be happy? > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "emrog" <emrog@htcomp.net> > >> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:53 AM > >> Subject: [ERATH] Old Erath > >> > >> > >> >I talked to Todd,,,,,,he is not happy with the way the book is > >> bound,,,,,,, > >> > > >> > I saw it and thought it was ok,,,,,,,,,,lol > >> > > >> > But Todd being the perfectionist,,,,,,,,,,is doing the binding > >> > over,,,,,,,,,therefore there will > >> > be a slight delay. > >> > > >> > Eva > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >> > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > >> > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >> > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >> > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >> --- Author Retains Copyright --- > >> -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >> Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >> Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Jim Lowry set up a web page for folks who attended Three Way School. The address is http://www.dotjim.net/threeway/ in case anyone wants to access it. Donna Walker-Nixon

lol Susan,,,,,,,,,,,,well researched I enjoyed reading it,,,,,,,,,,I wonder if i have scotch irish blood lol eva ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick and Susan" <rickandsusan@swva.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: [ERATH] Scotch-Irish/Scots-Irish > Well we have quite a discussion going on here. > My Grandfather Carvin was very proud to be Scotch-Irish. When I was a teenager back in the 1960s, someone rudely scolded my Grandmother Carvin by telling her it was Scots-Irish, not Scotch-Irish. And that Scotch was a drink! I say rudely because she was so embarrassed, the term Scots-Irish stuck with her. > My Grandfather maintained firmly that he was Scotch-Irish. > > The RootsWeb mailing list is for Scotch-Irish. And the list owner had a discussion about how Scotch-Irish is the correct American term a year ago. > "If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of Virginia, plant my flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the Scotch-Irish of that region, and make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who will never submit to British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a trigger. George Washington, at Valley Forge."BTW this is where we live. > > "There has been some controversy as to the term, "Scotch-Irish." The term "Scotch-Irish" supposedly originated in mid-eighteenth century America to distinguish the Ulster Presbyterian emigrants of Scottish ancestry from other Irish settlers in the colonies. But the first to use the term, Scotch-Irish, was Queen Elizabeth as far back as 1573 when in a manifesto she said "....We are given to understand that a nobleman names "Sorley Boy," and others, who be of the Scotch-Irish race, and some of the wild Irish, at this time are content to acknowledge our true and mere right to the country of Ulster and the Crown of Ireland...." Its obvious from this that the Scotch Irish as a people have been recognized to have existed some 500 years ago. > > "In America the first to use the term was by Sir Thomas Laurence Secretary of Maryland when in June of 1695, he said; "In the counties of Dorchester and Somerest, where the Scotch-Irish are numerous, they clothe themselves by their linen and woolen manufactures." > > "And an Anglican minister named George Ross wrote in 1753: "They call themselves Scotch-Irish, and are the bitterest railers against the Church of England that ever trod on American ground."For almost a hundred years the term seems to have disappeared, until the influx of the Catholic Irish during the potato famine of 1845-46. > > "In order to distinguish themselves and their ancestors for the newly arriving Catholic Irish they revived the rarely used term of Scotch-Irish and it stuck. So now after 150 years of common use it at last expresses a historical reality, no other word is quite able to fulfill. > > "The term is seldom used in Northern Ireland, Scotland or Britain, they prefer Ulsterman or Ulster Scot but none the less these are the same people separated only by distance and time." From http://www.scotchirish.net/What%20about%20the%20name.php4 > > I could give pages of quotes on the correct term being Scotch-Irish. But on many of the sites, the name Scots-Irish is used also. In books for sale the two names are used in titles. Another example is this "The Scotch-Irish Foundation (PO Box 181, Bryn Mawr, PA 19010) was established as a Pennsylvania non-profit corporation in 1949, specifically to collect records relating to the Scots-Irish and to preserve their history." It seems to be used interchangeably today. I say today, because I haven't yet found any old quotes using the name Scots-Irish. > > So I will continue to say that Scotch-Irish is the correct term according to the old ways. Others may say Scots-Irish is the correct term. And it is very Scot to argue about it to the "death". But I am done. > > Susan > > In the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia > > > > > > > > Many Irish in the past and present for reasons only apparent to them selves have always had a problem with the term. As long ago as 1897 Irish American Historical Society tried to debunk the term as a new finagled notion, promulgated in America and born of sheer ignorance and pharisaical Calvinistic pride. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charles Blakley > To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Skin colors > > > > > Although it is not politically correct in some circles, I still consider > myself to be Scotch-Irish. > > That's what my Dad said I was, and I've found nothing in my background > to lead me to a different conclusion. > > Blakely/Murphree/Blackburn/Hancock/Goyne/Byars/White/Woodard/Burson/McInish/ Ray/ > Buckner/Phillips/Nall/Winder/Herrin > etc. etc. > > > mygen@att.net wrote: > > >Scots-Irish is the correct term. > > > >-------------- Original message from Rick and Susan <rickandsusan@swva.net>: > >-------------- > > > > > > > > > >>The term Scotch-Irish is an American invention for the Scots that moved to > >>Ireland for nearly a century & then moved to America. So sez the Scotch-Irish > >>mailing list administrator. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

I haven't had any e-mil from Rootsweb in two days it seems. Is it down? Dortha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A.Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Old Erath > Hi, Mike, some Selden land leased for $300.00 per acre last year. From > Lipan to Weatherford andtowards Wise and Denton Counties may go for > $350.00 per acre- The Denton- Wise County gas wells are from the same > deep strata of flint hard shale many feet thick and from 400 to 1000 feet > deep. This is now supplying many States between Decatur and Canada. As > long as Crude is above $40.00 per barrel they will drill for the gas. > Many years agpo, appx. 1950, Grandad and Wyly and Kay families leased for > about $5.00 to $10.00 per acre. A test well was capped at Selden Church > which had some oil, 2 layers of Coal and some Gas, like the shallow Laney > Wells. > > So far, if Grandad's old home place is leased, we have not seen our half > of the lease money. Others adjoining it is leased.Kay land joined Grandad > on 2 sides- Three , counting Roy's summer place in "Hatchettville". > > Good to hear from you, > Charles > > On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:43:37 -0800 Mike Furman <mefurman@wayfarer1.com> > writes: >> Dear Erath fans, >> Wonders never cease! Mr grandfather, John P. Kay, died about 1937, >> and last >> month my cousins and I were informed he held mineral rights on >> little pieces >> of land in Erath County. A company wants to drill, so we all signed >> before >> a notary as to our identity and now have an extra $100 bucks with >> dreams of >> more should anything spurt up! Granddad Kay was broke when he died. >> He had >> several farms/ranches around Seldon at one time, but Granny always >> said he >> was a master at making bad deals. Wouldn't he be happy? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "emrog" <emrog@htcomp.net> >> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:53 AM >> Subject: [ERATH] Old Erath >> >> >> >I talked to Todd,,,,,,he is not happy with the way the book is >> bound,,,,,,, >> > >> > I saw it and thought it was ok,,,,,,,,,,lol >> > >> > But Todd being the perfectionist,,,,,,,,,,is doing the binding >> > over,,,,,,,,,therefore there will >> > be a slight delay. >> > >> > Eva >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >> > --- Author Retains Copyright --- >> > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved >> > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >> > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >> --- Author Retains Copyright --- >> -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved >> Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >> Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >> ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Well we have quite a discussion going on here. My Grandfather Carvin was very proud to be Scotch-Irish. When I was a teenager back in the 1960s, someone rudely scolded my Grandmother Carvin by telling her it was Scots-Irish, not Scotch-Irish. And that Scotch was a drink! I say rudely because she was so embarrassed, the term Scots-Irish stuck with her. My Grandfather maintained firmly that he was Scotch-Irish. The RootsWeb mailing list is for Scotch-Irish. And the list owner had a discussion about how Scotch-Irish is the correct American term a year ago. "If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of Virginia, plant my flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the Scotch-Irish of that region, and make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who will never submit to British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a trigger. George Washington, at Valley Forge."BTW this is where we live. "There has been some controversy as to the term, "Scotch-Irish." The term "Scotch-Irish" supposedly originated in mid-eighteenth century America to distinguish the Ulster Presbyterian emigrants of Scottish ancestry from other Irish settlers in the colonies. But the first to use the term, Scotch-Irish, was Queen Elizabeth as far back as 1573 when in a manifesto she said "....We are given to understand that a nobleman names "Sorley Boy," and others, who be of the Scotch-Irish race, and some of the wild Irish, at this time are content to acknowledge our true and mere right to the country of Ulster and the Crown of Ireland...." Its obvious from this that the Scotch Irish as a people have been recognized to have existed some 500 years ago. "In America the first to use the term was by Sir Thomas Laurence Secretary of Maryland when in June of 1695, he said; "In the counties of Dorchester and Somerest, where the Scotch-Irish are numerous, they clothe themselves by their linen and woolen manufactures." "And an Anglican minister named George Ross wrote in 1753: "They call themselves Scotch-Irish, and are the bitterest railers against the Church of England that ever trod on American ground."For almost a hundred years the term seems to have disappeared, until the influx of the Catholic Irish during the potato famine of 1845-46. "In order to distinguish themselves and their ancestors for the newly arriving Catholic Irish they revived the rarely used term of Scotch-Irish and it stuck. So now after 150 years of common use it at last expresses a historical reality, no other word is quite able to fulfill. "The term is seldom used in Northern Ireland, Scotland or Britain, they prefer Ulsterman or Ulster Scot but none the less these are the same people separated only by distance and time." From http://www.scotchirish.net/What%20about%20the%20name.php4 I could give pages of quotes on the correct term being Scotch-Irish. But on many of the sites, the name Scots-Irish is used also. In books for sale the two names are used in titles. Another example is this "The Scotch-Irish Foundation (PO Box 181, Bryn Mawr, PA 19010) was established as a Pennsylvania non-profit corporation in 1949, specifically to collect records relating to the Scots-Irish and to preserve their history." It seems to be used interchangeably today. I say today, because I haven't yet found any old quotes using the name Scots-Irish. So I will continue to say that Scotch-Irish is the correct term according to the old ways. Others may say Scots-Irish is the correct term. And it is very Scot to argue about it to the "death". But I am done. Susan In the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia Many Irish in the past and present for reasons only apparent to them selves have always had a problem with the term. As long ago as 1897 Irish American Historical Society tried to debunk the term as a new finagled notion, promulgated in America and born of sheer ignorance and pharisaical Calvinistic pride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Blakley To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Skin colors Although it is not politically correct in some circles, I still consider myself to be Scotch-Irish. That's what my Dad said I was, and I've found nothing in my background to lead me to a different conclusion. Blakely/Murphree/Blackburn/Hancock/Goyne/Byars/White/Woodard/Burson/McInish/Ray/ Buckner/Phillips/Nall/Winder/Herrin etc. etc. mygen@att.net wrote: >Scots-Irish is the correct term. > >-------------- Original message from Rick and Susan <rickandsusan@swva.net>: >-------------- > > > > >>The term Scotch-Irish is an American invention for the Scots that moved to >>Ireland for nearly a century & then moved to America. So sez the Scotch-Irish >>mailing list administrator. >> >> >> > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Sory I may have confused Carleton and Blakley Stores in the area- Please re- read last note with this in mind. Charles Wyly On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:21:52 -0800 mygen@att.net writes: > Charles, > > I seriously doubt that "political correctness" had anything to do > with it. The > term "Scots-Irish" was around at least 200 years before we became > what was or > was not politically correct. > > Margaret > > -------------- Original message from Charles Blakley > <geneb@htcomp.net>: > -------------- > > > > > > > > Although it is not politically correct in some circles, I still > consider > > myself to be Scotch-Irish. > > > > That's what my Dad said I was, and I've found nothing in my > background > > to lead me to a different conclusion. > > > > > Blakely/Murphree/Blackburn/Hancock/Goyne/Byars/White/Woodard/Burson/McIni sh/Ray/ > > > Buckner/Phillips/Nall/Winder/Herrin > > etc. etc. > > > > > > mygen@att.net wrote: > > > > >Scots-Irish is the correct term. > > > > > >-------------- Original message from Rick and Susan : > > >-------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>The term Scotch-Irish is an American invention for the Scots > that moved to > > >>Ireland for nearly a century & then moved to America. So sez the > Scotch-Irish > > >>mailing list administrator. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >