My hearing must be bad- Who asked what about Sonny Boy Roberts? and the next message from HJOY- message page was blank. I faintly remember some of the Roberts of Stephenville and Mattie Roberts Somerville of West Monroe, La. was a Wyly descendant and DAR officer and Pres. of Natchitoches, La. Also, I am descended from a Roberts- Grandmother of Great Grandad Dr.W.P.. Hatchett was Jane Roberts, born 1758 in Virginia. Several Roberts families had Hardshell Baptist Roots and some were lay preachers across the Brazos - see Bosque County Primitive Baptist History in a Googloe Window. mattie left me a 2 or 3 inch stack of Roberts research and she told her husband before she died that she now believed that she could connect dots to Brushy Bill Roberts of Hico. The Roberts wo came from West Virginia to Natchitoches, La. by hs own homemade 3 room raft , came on to Stephenville- not far from where jane Roberts was born. Will work on these records more after I shake this Bacterial Bronchitis and get Jeannie over it. WARNING- with one form if one waits 72 hours to se a Doctor, that might be 36 hours too long, if it progresses into the lungs. Charles Wyly On Wed, 11 May 2005 16:27:48 EDT TYLERPRYOR@aol.com writes: > Could that have been "Sonny Boy" Roberts? > Tyler Pryor > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Could that have been "Sonny Boy" Roberts? Tyler Pryor

There is a back corner of West End Cemetery which is overlooked by some amateurs searching for graves. Wasn't it partly used for county pauper burials- may have been one in East End Cemetery which was also not well marked. Commercial mowers sometimes "Loose " field stone meant to be a headstone, usually scratched with a nail or chisel. easier to mow where it was than around it or ruining a mower blade on one in tall grass. Sometimes such graves need levelling. I understand metal detectors and sometimes "Witching" or dowsing with 2 metal rods or a fork of peachtree limb will dip over a grave- or the rods will cross. This was shoiwn one night on TV, and some graves were found. Of course, there are many cemeteries within 15 miles of Stephenville. Remember Dan White and nephew Robert Bagwell who robbed Crockett Ross at his service station near Tarleton on Dublin Hwy? Dan trained Robert , a teenager to run in and rob with a gun and get money and run out to the car he was driving. Problem was, Crocket Ross did not think like McDonald's management of today and resisted. A Selden pastor and Seminary Student was holding Jail services in Stephenville after Dan was given the death sentence. Dan was converted with no thought of appeal- he said he was responsible for Robert's actions and knew he deserved his sentence, but he asked to be baptized. The Selden Church accepted him as a member and the pastor baptized Dan in the baptistry of Stephenville First Baptist. He was executed at Huntsville. Where was he buried? If I made a mistake on a name, please tell me. Charles Wyly On Tue, 10 May 2005 05:10:50 -0500 "Peggy Broughton" <peggyj@our-town.com> writes: > Mr. Wyly, > do you know any thing about a paupers cemetery or poor farm that was > in > Erath county, It probably would have been around the turn of the > century. > Peggy Broughton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Remember the Triangle Cheese plant is in a new location- The old Triangle Cheese Plant was one block from the square, It was either facing the old Hotel or across behind the Bank. Barham's Produce house and turkey picking plant was one block from the square..We sold our milyk to Triangle and either a Koonsman or others rqan a mily can route by our house and most neighbors. Charles Wyly On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:17:31 -0700 "emrog" <emrog@htcomp.net> writes: > Past the overpass going over the railroad,,,,,,back in there is the > new > cheese plant but closer to 281 N it is pretty much open land.,,, > > Eva > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] question... > > > > Go to Rootsweb.com archives of Txerath site. The Erath County Poor > Farm > > has been discussed here over the last 10 years. > > Best I remember it was off Hwy 183 on the right past the RR > overpass. It > > is now either part of the Texas A&M Experiment Farm. or the > Tarleton > > Farm. Wasn't Tarleton College dairy and experiment farm on left > of 218 > > north and east of Huckaby Highway- Graham Street. We used to ride > > Tarleton busses to the College farm to study cattle judging with > Dr. Reed > > and others as part of our classroom work. The farm once supplied > all > > milk Tarleton used. later Payton Frakes Dairy provided it all- > possibly > > on a State Bid. Payton name was same as Pattons from Patton, Texas > > between Valley Mills and Crawford. . > > > > The Poor farm was for elderly without other income or property opr > > visible legal means of support. . Texas paid Civil War Vets > pension, - > > I have some of Great Grandad Moxley's envelopes containing his > check, > > with the Confederate St. Anthony's Cross- Stars and Bars flag next > to > > the U.S. postage stamp. Those who lived there were expected to > work as > > much as able, like picking the garden or seeing after chickens > and eggs > > or picking fruit. County Deputies were assinged prisoner Work > Details to > > wwork on the Poor Farm. > > > > Can't remember the exact story, but once some prisoners refused to > do > > farm work on the County Poor Farm, and some Deputy handcuffed one > to a > > tree limb on tiptoes while the others worked some. Probably on > good crop > > years the jail shared food from the Poor Farm to keep expenses > down. > > > > Charles A. Wyly > > > > On Tue, 10 May 2005 05:10:50 -0500 "Peggy Broughton" > > <peggyj@our-town.com> writes: > > > Mr. Wyly, > > > do you know any thing about a paupers cemetery or poor farm that > was > > > in > > > Erath county, It probably would have been around the turn of the > > > century. > > > Peggy Broughton > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > http://www.selfroots.com > > > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > ARCHIVES: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

> did Joyce say that the poor farm was there Think so... at least pretty close. kathy

Kathy did Joyce say that the poor farm was there,,,,,,,I know the area,,,,,,,and that sounds more like it. Eva ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Tate" <ktate@bluefox.tv> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Poor farm > Wasn't the Poor Farm behind the old peach orchard on the Extension > Service's land (west side of 281)? I remember a dirt road between the > peach trees and the "new" Extension Service building with an old house at > the end. Seems like we once went there to see some one or some thing back > in the early/mid 50's ...I don't remember ...maybe to buy peaches. I just > remember the road and house. Does that sound right Charles? > > Joyce Whitis had a nice article about it in the paper a couple of weeks ago. > > Kathy Tate > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Wasn't the Poor Farm behind the old peach orchard on the Extension Service's land (west side of 281)? I remember a dirt road between the peach trees and the "new" Extension Service building with an old house at the end. Seems like we once went there to see some one or some thing back in the early/mid 50's ...I don't remember ...maybe to buy peaches. I just remember the road and house. Does that sound right Charles? Joyce Whitis had a nice article about it in the paper a couple of weeks ago. Kathy Tate

Past the overpass going over the railroad,,,,,,back in there is the new cheese plant but closer to 281 N it is pretty much open land.,,, Eva ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] question... > Go to Rootsweb.com archives of Txerath site. The Erath County Poor Farm > has been discussed here over the last 10 years. > Best I remember it was off Hwy 183 on the right past the RR overpass. It > is now either part of the Texas A&M Experiment Farm. or the Tarleton > Farm. Wasn't Tarleton College dairy and experiment farm on left of 218 > north and east of Huckaby Highway- Graham Street. We used to ride > Tarleton busses to the College farm to study cattle judging with Dr. Reed > and others as part of our classroom work. The farm once supplied all > milk Tarleton used. later Payton Frakes Dairy provided it all- possibly > on a State Bid. Payton name was same as Pattons from Patton, Texas > between Valley Mills and Crawford. . > > The Poor farm was for elderly without other income or property opr > visible legal means of support. . Texas paid Civil War Vets pension, - > I have some of Great Grandad Moxley's envelopes containing his check, > with the Confederate St. Anthony's Cross- Stars and Bars flag next to > the U.S. postage stamp. Those who lived there were expected to work as > much as able, like picking the garden or seeing after chickens and eggs > or picking fruit. County Deputies were assinged prisoner Work Details to > wwork on the Poor Farm. > > Can't remember the exact story, but once some prisoners refused to do > farm work on the County Poor Farm, and some Deputy handcuffed one to a > tree limb on tiptoes while the others worked some. Probably on good crop > years the jail shared food from the Poor Farm to keep expenses down. > > Charles A. Wyly > > On Tue, 10 May 2005 05:10:50 -0500 "Peggy Broughton" > <peggyj@our-town.com> writes: > > Mr. Wyly, > > do you know any thing about a paupers cemetery or poor farm that was > > in > > Erath county, It probably would have been around the turn of the > > century. > > Peggy Broughton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Still is a Thurber Lake- Fort Worth Sportsman Club owns land near it - possibly lake is on their property. The lake supplied Locomotive and Steam engines around the coal mines. Some have held Family Reunions there- behind the operating Cafe on New York Hill- also a historic site. Lake Cisco & below the dam was - is a popular site for picnics and reunions. The rows of simple cabins on South of I-20 towards Huckaby cutoff from New York Hill was once owned by Rev. Frank Jordan of California and Non Denominational Churches. One set of missionaries went there to live in primitive conditions as Missionary Training for overseas conditions. . Last group I have heard of who lived there were youth- some married & with kids, wh were supposed to get Drug Therapy there. The leader was a Mr. Berg, , now in England and looked up to as a prophet. When at Thurber, their school kids attended Huckaby School. Moms and dads and singles would take a worn school bus to Fort Worth for street missionary work and direct fundraising (?) for the group. They left and bought a 2 or 3 story Building near the entrance to Dallas State Fair gates, where they lived and recruited. The California Churches had cut ties with them during or after the Thurber camp activities. Charles Wyly On Mon, 9 May 2005 11:41:33 -0500 "Dortha Greenlee" <dgreen909h@cox.net> writes: > Was there ever a Thurber Lake? > > Dortha > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "emrog" <emrog@htcomp.net> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:03 PM > Subject: [ERATH] Lake north of stephenville > > > > There are only two lakes I know of,,,,,,,one was i believe on > private > > property owned by cawlyer(not sure if I spelled that correctly) > ,,,,he was > > a > > pharmacist in stephenville,,,,,,,the other one is called club lake > and its > > privately owned,,,,,they are both off of n 281 > > > > there is another lake,,,,,,,or in my opinion a huge tank,,,,on n > 67 on > > private property owned by a lawyer here in town. > > > > Eva Rogers > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles J.Rogers" <CRogers@houston.rr.com> > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] lake... > > > > > >> 1. John Nance Garner of Uvalde, not Bonham, was VP in FDR's first > and > >> second terms. > >> 2. Garner State Park is on the Frio River between Concan and > Leakey > >> (pronounced Coon-can and Lakey). > >> 3. Sam Rayburn was from Bonham. He was Speaker of the House when > Lyndon > >> Johnson was Majority Leader of the Senate and DDE was President. > They > >> were > >> both powerful allies of FDR in the House when Sam Russell was > there and > >> Garner was VP. They brought us things like Social Security, REA, > pretty > > rock > >> buildings in state parks, and employment for men whose families > were > > hungry. > >> 4. The lake north of Stephenville was in a state park, but I > thought it > >> was called Stephenville State Park. I learned to swim there about > 1947. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >> --- Author Retains Copyright --- > >> -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >> Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >> Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Go to Rootsweb.com archives of Txerath site. The Erath County Poor Farm has been discussed here over the last 10 years. Best I remember it was off Hwy 183 on the right past the RR overpass. It is now either part of the Texas A&M Experiment Farm. or the Tarleton Farm. Wasn't Tarleton College dairy and experiment farm on left of 218 north and east of Huckaby Highway- Graham Street. We used to ride Tarleton busses to the College farm to study cattle judging with Dr. Reed and others as part of our classroom work. The farm once supplied all milk Tarleton used. later Payton Frakes Dairy provided it all- possibly on a State Bid. Payton name was same as Pattons from Patton, Texas between Valley Mills and Crawford. . The Poor farm was for elderly without other income or property opr visible legal means of support. . Texas paid Civil War Vets pension, - I have some of Great Grandad Moxley's envelopes containing his check, with the Confederate St. Anthony's Cross- Stars and Bars flag next to the U.S. postage stamp. Those who lived there were expected to work as much as able, like picking the garden or seeing after chickens and eggs or picking fruit. County Deputies were assinged prisoner Work Details to wwork on the Poor Farm. Can't remember the exact story, but once some prisoners refused to do farm work on the County Poor Farm, and some Deputy handcuffed one to a tree limb on tiptoes while the others worked some. Probably on good crop years the jail shared food from the Poor Farm to keep expenses down. Charles A. Wyly On Tue, 10 May 2005 05:10:50 -0500 "Peggy Broughton" <peggyj@our-town.com> writes: > Mr. Wyly, > do you know any thing about a paupers cemetery or poor farm that was > in > Erath county, It probably would have been around the turn of the > century. > Peggy Broughton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Always heard it was Lake Concan - and also the small community was called Concan. Used to be sheep and goat country more so than cattle, but things have changed.

I got an e mail from someone who is on this erath group,,,,,,his name is Derald. does anyone know who this is. eva

Very Interesting stories! I love them. Callie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] lake...Garner and Crockett families > CORRECTION- I listed Imogene as a Carey- we had the same grandmother- our > moms were sisters. Actually she was the daughter of Tom Hatchett and Ada > Carey- Imogene HatchettTom had a type of emphosema from WW1 Pneumonia in > Army. He drove truck and hauled soldiers to Galveston troop ships , sick > in until the Flu brouht him down. Some were kept in pup tents in > Galveston and given medicine there. he recoverred enough to do farm work > in field, garden, and livestock, but would have to stop and heave at > times. Similar to Dad's Asthma. > Most of the Carey sisters and brothers of mom had Smallpox and missed > almost a year of school- The pockets were as large as a finger- and as > long. If they turned in Bed and burst one, others would form from the > puss touching the clean skin. All survived, but some dropped out- in 1918 > it was not considerred necessary for farm girls to finish 11 years of > school and graduate or test out. > > Dad roomed with Virgil Underwood in the home where Charlie Neblitt was > born. he finished Tarleton and taught one year at Harmony, near , near > Meridian. he had studied Spanish but Harmony first Graders spoke one or 2 > languages- Norwegian or German. he left theaching and started farming. > Mom kept all the books and figured the income tax and he would help on > some instructions. Virgil became a well known Vocational Ag teacher. > > What a change- are you familiar with handwriting not being taught any > more? I have a granddaughter who has a scholarship to Texas A&M next year > and she nor her sisters can read script writing or do it- they print. The > kleyboard has taken over. > > Charles Wyly > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:24:25 -0500 "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> > writes: > > Dave Garner lived at Selden and son James marred my first cousin > > Imogene > > Carey. James worked for Erath County REA Their son Jim Garner lives > > in > > Garland and works - or worked- at the old Chance- Vought Aircraft > > plant > > in Gramd Prairie and Imogene sold the Selden Hatchett farm to David > > Carey. His family also runs THE CORN POPPER in Garland, which > > employs > > over 20 people in sales, catering parties, or whatever. Dave Garner > > bought the Selden 4 line Party telephone lines and switchboard from > > John > > Kay, who married Ida Minerva Wyly in Georgia, and John was the first > > store owner in Selden, across from them. Tom Payne, Ida's brother in > > law, > > was the first postmaster and ran the Kay store until it was sold out > > to > > Tom Hatchett and Vea Cornett Hatchett. <Some of the above group are > > buried in Selden ( Hatchett) Cemetery near the Duffau Creek , in > > former > > Wyly Brothers Dairy. James Garner's sister was partially physically > > handicapped and ran the Seden Switchboard where parties on one line > > called her to switch them to another line- Each wall phone had a > > combination of long and short rings, or cranks of the Ringer, for a > > number. Neighbors learned the numbers, and if a neighbor was called > > and > > didn't answer, a neighbor would pick up and report the location of > > the > > one being called, if they could see him plowing- or gone to town. > > One > > line went in To Stephenville. Johnsville and Fairy had some early > > phone > > lines, but the Selden one was reported to be earlier than > > Stephenville > > phones. Johnsville phone lines may have joined Selden befor emy > > time, > > across David Carey's or Johnson Ranch land, Some telephonme > > insulators > > canh still be found on fence posts or buildings. No full time > > maintenance- just subscribers came to do necessary line work. > > > > If I am not mistaken, once in the early 1940's my Aunt Capt. Mary E. > > Wyly, Army Nurse Coprps, , called them once from Australia. This > > would > > have made more sense to me if someone in Stephenville called > > Grandparents > > to come to Stephenville at a given time and she would call back > > from > > Australia, before she left for 2 battle zones in New Guinea, Leyte, > > Luzon, Manilla and others. She was on the shipping list to go to the > > Invasion of Japan before the Atomic Bomb made her trip unnecessary. > > Grandpa had limited hearing due to Typhoid Fever when 12. > > > > Dr. Nell Garner, Jimmy Garner's sister, dau. of Mom's Niece, > > Imogene, now > > teaches at Baylor School of Medicine in Dallas. She left > > Stephenville > > with Dr. Naylor's Daughter for a term as a Medical Missionary in > > India. > > Jame's brother included Wayne and Milton Garner. > > > > Others have confirmed that other Garners, connection not known, > > owned a > > ranch past the Country Club Lake and on the west side of > > 281.Stephenville Country Club lake , on the East side of Hwy 281was > > about half way to the park my family called the Garner Lake. Didn't > > think > > Stephenville owned 3 Parks- two well outside the city limits. > > > > The Erath County Garner Lake and stone shelters and paved picnic > > area > > across the lake from 281 , and the Dam was built by PWA or WPA or > > CCC- > > (Works Project Administration or Civilian Conservation Corps) Not > > sure, > > but the NYA (NYA) may have also played a role . Aren't some Garners > > buried in Hightower Cemetery??? Before the park closed past Country > > Club > > Lake, it had developed to what some Churchgoers considerred a evil > > place > > for Erath County kids to stop coming from Mingus or Mineral Wells. > > Some > > wanted Erath County Commisioners or City Council or anyone they > > thought > > had influence to close it. Either the PWA or The WPA was declared > > unconstitutional and it was reorganized under a different name after > > Roosevelt had followed Hoover's plans left in the Capitol in > > organized > > boxes to add some judges to the Supreme Court who would be more > > favorable. Hoover had tried going that direction but the Supreme > > Court > > stopped him at every turn and his term ran out. ( That's what the > > Big > > Boys told me .) I was told in Erath County Schools that " It Does > > not > > matter who gets the credit as long as one does the right thing". > > Many > > Politicians do not live by that code of ethics in any party. > > > > The NYA also built the nearest building to I-35 in Waco University > > High > > School, and it was used by soldiers at the beginning of the war to > > train > > soldiers in certain Technologies. I have substituted as a teacher > > there > > in various classes and ISS and seen the letters in the floor on > > Marble > > of the NYC or NYA. > > > > Johnsville, at about the time of the Federal Programs had turned one > > Hat > > and Cloakroom- or mud room today, into a hot lunch kitchen, run by > > Teacher Aide Cloye Little Sherrod .Our outhouses were separate > > buildings > > from the Cloak Rooms and the classrooms. . . Marshall was teaching > > upper grades and Math and Today, the Jr High where Marshal retired > > as > > Principal in Grand Prairie carries his name. > > > > I just had a direct inquiry from a descendant of John Crockett's > > brother, who also rode with Quantrill. John settled in Pony Creek > > before > > leaving with his daughter and son in law , a Beach boy from Pony > > Creek. > > They went to Quannah, Texas, where some, but not all, say he is > > buried. > > His headstone is in Quannah, bit one legend says he was found nearer > > Paris, Texas shot in his blanket by cowboys on a trail drive whose > > boss > > would not hire him. . This one wanted to know of his connection of > > the > > Selden and Stephenville Crocketts. I do not have that. Do you? > > > > Charles Wyly > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 08:34:31 -0700 "Charles J.Rogers" > > <CRogers@houston.rr.com> writes: > > > 1. John Nance Garner of Uvalde, not Bonham, was VP in FDR’s > > > > > first and > > > second terms. > > > 2. Garner State Park is on the Frio River between Concan > > and > > > Leakey > > > (pronounced Coon-can and Lakey). > > > 3. Sam Rayburn was from Bonham. He was Speaker of the House > > > > > when Lyndon > > > Johnson was Majority Leader of the Senate and DDE was President. > > > They were > > > both powerful allies of FDR in the House when Sam Russell was > > there > > > and > > > Garner was VP. They brought us things like Social Security, REA, > > > pretty rock > > > buildings in state parks, and employment for men whose families > > were > > > hungry. > > > 4. The lake north of Stephenville was in a state park, but > > I > > > thought it > > > was called Stephenville State Park. I learned to swim there about > > > 1947. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

CORRECTION- I listed Imogene as a Carey- we had the same grandmother- our moms were sisters. Actually she was the daughter of Tom Hatchett and Ada Carey- Imogene HatchettTom had a type of emphosema from WW1 Pneumonia in Army. He drove truck and hauled soldiers to Galveston troop ships , sick in until the Flu brouht him down. Some were kept in pup tents in Galveston and given medicine there. he recoverred enough to do farm work in field, garden, and livestock, but would have to stop and heave at times. Similar to Dad's Asthma. Most of the Carey sisters and brothers of mom had Smallpox and missed almost a year of school- The pockets were as large as a finger- and as long. If they turned in Bed and burst one, others would form from the puss touching the clean skin. All survived, but some dropped out- in 1918 it was not considerred necessary for farm girls to finish 11 years of school and graduate or test out. Dad roomed with Virgil Underwood in the home where Charlie Neblitt was born. he finished Tarleton and taught one year at Harmony, near , near Meridian. he had studied Spanish but Harmony first Graders spoke one or 2 languages- Norwegian or German. he left theaching and started farming. Mom kept all the books and figured the income tax and he would help on some instructions. Virgil became a well known Vocational Ag teacher. What a change- are you familiar with handwriting not being taught any more? I have a granddaughter who has a scholarship to Texas A&M next year and she nor her sisters can read script writing or do it- they print. The kleyboard has taken over. Charles Wyly On Mon, 9 May 2005 14:24:25 -0500 "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> writes: > Dave Garner lived at Selden and son James marred my first cousin > Imogene > Carey. James worked for Erath County REA Their son Jim Garner lives > in > Garland and works - or worked- at the old Chance- Vought Aircraft > plant > in Gramd Prairie and Imogene sold the Selden Hatchett farm to David > Carey. His family also runs THE CORN POPPER in Garland, which > employs > over 20 people in sales, catering parties, or whatever. Dave Garner > bought the Selden 4 line Party telephone lines and switchboard from > John > Kay, who married Ida Minerva Wyly in Georgia, and John was the first > store owner in Selden, across from them. Tom Payne, Ida's brother in > law, > was the first postmaster and ran the Kay store until it was sold out > to > Tom Hatchett and Vea Cornett Hatchett. <Some of the above group are > buried in Selden ( Hatchett) Cemetery near the Duffau Creek , in > former > Wyly Brothers Dairy. James Garner's sister was partially physically > handicapped and ran the Seden Switchboard where parties on one line > called her to switch them to another line- Each wall phone had a > combination of long and short rings, or cranks of the Ringer, for a > number. Neighbors learned the numbers, and if a neighbor was called > and > didn't answer, a neighbor would pick up and report the location of > the > one being called, if they could see him plowing- or gone to town. > One > line went in To Stephenville. Johnsville and Fairy had some early > phone > lines, but the Selden one was reported to be earlier than > Stephenville > phones. Johnsville phone lines may have joined Selden befor emy > time, > across David Carey's or Johnson Ranch land, Some telephonme > insulators > canh still be found on fence posts or buildings. No full time > maintenance- just subscribers came to do necessary line work. > > If I am not mistaken, once in the early 1940's my Aunt Capt. Mary E. > Wyly, Army Nurse Coprps, , called them once from Australia. This > would > have made more sense to me if someone in Stephenville called > Grandparents > to come to Stephenville at a given time and she would call back > from > Australia, before she left for 2 battle zones in New Guinea, Leyte, > Luzon, Manilla and others. She was on the shipping list to go to the > Invasion of Japan before the Atomic Bomb made her trip unnecessary. > Grandpa had limited hearing due to Typhoid Fever when 12. > > Dr. Nell Garner, Jimmy Garner's sister, dau. of Mom's Niece, > Imogene, now > teaches at Baylor School of Medicine in Dallas. She left > Stephenville > with Dr. Naylor's Daughter for a term as a Medical Missionary in > India. > Jame's brother included Wayne and Milton Garner. > > Others have confirmed that other Garners, connection not known, > owned a > ranch past the Country Club Lake and on the west side of > 281.Stephenville Country Club lake , on the East side of Hwy 281was > about half way to the park my family called the Garner Lake. Didn't > think > Stephenville owned 3 Parks- two well outside the city limits. > > The Erath County Garner Lake and stone shelters and paved picnic > area > across the lake from 281 , and the Dam was built by PWA or WPA or > CCC- > (Works Project Administration or Civilian Conservation Corps) Not > sure, > but the NYA (NYA) may have also played a role . Aren't some Garners > buried in Hightower Cemetery??? Before the park closed past Country > Club > Lake, it had developed to what some Churchgoers considerred a evil > place > for Erath County kids to stop coming from Mingus or Mineral Wells. > Some > wanted Erath County Commisioners or City Council or anyone they > thought > had influence to close it. Either the PWA or The WPA was declared > unconstitutional and it was reorganized under a different name after > Roosevelt had followed Hoover's plans left in the Capitol in > organized > boxes to add some judges to the Supreme Court who would be more > favorable. Hoover had tried going that direction but the Supreme > Court > stopped him at every turn and his term ran out. ( That's what the > Big > Boys told me .) I was told in Erath County Schools that " It Does > not > matter who gets the credit as long as one does the right thing". > Many > Politicians do not live by that code of ethics in any party. > > The NYA also built the nearest building to I-35 in Waco University > High > School, and it was used by soldiers at the beginning of the war to > train > soldiers in certain Technologies. I have substituted as a teacher > there > in various classes and ISS and seen the letters in the floor on > Marble > of the NYC or NYA. > > Johnsville, at about the time of the Federal Programs had turned one > Hat > and Cloakroom- or mud room today, into a hot lunch kitchen, run by > Teacher Aide Cloye Little Sherrod .Our outhouses were separate > buildings > from the Cloak Rooms and the classrooms. . . Marshall was teaching > upper grades and Math and Today, the Jr High where Marshal retired > as > Principal in Grand Prairie carries his name. > > I just had a direct inquiry from a descendant of John Crockett's > brother, who also rode with Quantrill. John settled in Pony Creek > before > leaving with his daughter and son in law , a Beach boy from Pony > Creek. > They went to Quannah, Texas, where some, but not all, say he is > buried. > His headstone is in Quannah, bit one legend says he was found nearer > Paris, Texas shot in his blanket by cowboys on a trail drive whose > boss > would not hire him. . This one wanted to know of his connection of > the > Selden and Stephenville Crocketts. I do not have that. Do you? > > Charles Wyly > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 08:34:31 -0700 "Charles J.Rogers" > <CRogers@houston.rr.com> writes: > > 1. John Nance Garner of Uvalde, not Bonham, was VP in FDR’s > > > first and > > second terms. > > 2. Garner State Park is on the Frio River between Concan > and > > Leakey > > (pronounced Coon-can and Lakey). > > 3. Sam Rayburn was from Bonham. He was Speaker of the House > > > when Lyndon > > Johnson was Majority Leader of the Senate and DDE was President. > > They were > > both powerful allies of FDR in the House when Sam Russell was > there > > and > > Garner was VP. They brought us things like Social Security, REA, > > pretty rock > > buildings in state parks, and employment for men whose families > were > > hungry. > > 4. The lake north of Stephenville was in a state park, but > I > > thought it > > was called Stephenville State Park. I learned to swim there about > > 1947. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Mr. Wyly, do you know any thing about a paupers cemetery or poor farm that was in Erath county, It probably would have been around the turn of the century. Peggy Broughton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Charles, You are correct on the name change but in order to change it had to go to the Texas Legislature, I think. Tyler

Yes,,,,now I remember,,,,,,it was part of the Collier Ranch. They have since,,,,,,taken some of their land and developed it into small acreage sites for homes,,,,,,but I have wondered what they did with the lake,,,,,,I have a vague memory of us going there when I was a child. Thank you Eva ----- Original Message ----- From: <TYLERPRYOR@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Lake north of stephenville > The Lake located about 10 miles north of Stephenville on Hwy. 281 was built > by the state as a public works project. > The land belonged to John B. Collier, and he gave the land to the State to > be used as a park. It was named Garner State Park and was later changed to > Stephenville State Park by Special Legislation. The land was to be returned > back to the original owner if it ever ceased to be used as a park. It is my > understanding it finally was returned back to the Collier Estate due to very much > problems of Questionable parties. My wife and I (before Marriage),would use > it as our (Pitching WOO). It was a very good place until the roughhousing > began. > Tyler Pryor > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

The Lake located about 10 miles north of Stephenville on Hwy. 281 was built by the state as a public works project. The land belonged to John B. Collier, and he gave the land to the State to be used as a park. It was named Garner State Park and was later changed to Stephenville State Park by Special Legislation. The land was to be returned back to the original owner if it ever ceased to be used as a park. It is my understanding it finally was returned back to the Collier Estate due to very much problems of Questionable parties. My wife and I (before Marriage),would use it as our (Pitching WOO). It was a very good place until the roughhousing began. Tyler Pryor

Thanks, Tyler, Will check, but I think the name was changed due to the south Texas Garner State P:ark. Was this Stephenville park one place where boys from Mingus area used to meet Boys from Glen Rose and have a few fights. Glen Rose was once wet, like Mingus, but more famous for Moonshine made there in National Prohibition era and after and deliverred to Dallas and other Speakeasies. West , McLennan County Czech and German" Whiskey Holler" moonshiners also delivered to Dallas in dummy gas tanks under the car or pickup. The $60.00 per gallon profit in dodging Federal Taxes was not unknown, but a local Jury would not ususlly convict them. No one wanter to feed their kin or the county feed them while their dads were on 10 year "Business Trips " To Huntsville. Federal Liquor Copntrol didn't let that bother them. Sopme in West had Roots in Company homes in Thurber and came from Europe to Erath County, paid by TP Coal and Oil. Charles Wyly Charles Wyly On Mon, 9 May 2005 18:18:41 EDT TYLERPRYOR@aol.com writes: > The Lake located about 10 miles north of Stephenville on Hwy. 281 > was built > by the state as a public works project. > The land belonged to John B. Collier, and he gave the land to the > State to > be used as a park. It was named Garner State Park and was later > changed to > Stephenville State Park by Special Legislation. The land was to be > returned > back to the original owner if it ever ceased to be used as a park. > It is my > understanding it finally was returned back to the Collier Estate due > to very much > problems of Questionable parties. My wife and I (before > Marriage),would use > it as our (Pitching WOO). It was a very good place until the > roughhousing > began. > Tyler Pryor > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2005 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >