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    1. Re: [ERATH] BOWEN
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. Dear Sir; may have been RR- or Bus lines. My Uncle Joe Evans drove out of Stephenville between Brownwood Camp Bowie) and Fort Worth for Robinson Stage Bus lines of Stephenville. They sold out to Bowen Bus lines-from San Angelo, where he moved to , and Fort Worth during WW2. Bowen sold busses , mail contracts, and routes to Continental,Bus Lines, based in Dallas and he moved to Ennis, Texas for a short route, Ennis to Fort Worth. Check old Texas Railroad Commission- they also gave routes and licenses to buses and some trucks. May now be in Texas Dept. of Transportation, but I think RR Commission still regulates oil production. Happy Hunting Charles Wyly On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:35:15 Jim & Donna Bowen <bowjay@foothill.net> writes: >James Hersal BOWEN, was born 13 July 1891 in Dublin, Erath Co. TX. >s/o James Samuel Bowen & Melvina Vashti Welch. I kind of believe >James Samuel Bowen might of worked in the railroad because of the >way they moved around. He marr: Melvina in Eraph Co. 5 July 1885. > >James Samuel Bowen was the s/o Thomas C. Bowen & Lovann Desmond. >Would love to find something regarding this Bowen family. >1870 Hopkins Co. - 1880 Bosque Co. - 1990 Montague Co. >Jim & Donna Bowen <bowjay@foothill.net> > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/15/1998 01:04:39
    1. [ERATH] Townsend, Oldham, Higginbotham, Weaver
    2. Joan Gardner
    3. Between 1870-1880 the above families came to Dublin, Erath Co, Tx. Looking for any info on AW Townsend who was married to Mary Martha Weaver Townsend....their son, Frank W. Townsend was my ggrandfather. Franklin C. Olham(1st postmaster in Dublin) who was married to Virginia Higginbotham Oldham, their daughter Pearl married the above Frank W. Townsend. She was my ggrandmother. John J. Higginbotham who was married to Lucy Ann Taylor Higginbotham...their daughter was the above Virginia "Jenny" Higginbotham Oldham. Also, Mary Martha Weaver Townsend had a brother Stephen J. Weaver who also came to Erath Co....his wife was Eunice. Appreciate any help , Thanks, Joan

    08/15/1998 12:55:54
    1. Re: [ERATH] Bradford Family
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. Hi, I went to school 1944-46 with a Wayne Lowein Stephenville High. He was red headed, round faced, and freckled faced. Had classes and FFA trips with him I think they lived in Huckaby or Oak Dale and farmed peanuts. Sanders are plentiful in Erath County. One runs a tractor & implement shop and sales yard on the Dublin Hwy, or did. I rode to work at General Dynamics with a Sanders in a carpool from Stephenville, 1950-s . Some of his in laws had Cleburne , Tx roots. One Lowe that my daughter knew at Bynum High school is in his early 40's now and lives on my block in Hewitt, alone, in a good brick house. His mom & friend stopped to see us one day when he was gone. He is brilliant and has a good job, but doesen't talk much. He is friendly, will speak when he is out walking for exercise. Another Lowe-NO CONNECTIONS TO THE OTHERS KNOWN- has been on TV occasionally. He is from Robinson, Texas outside Waco and is the present leader of the "reformed" Texas Ku Klux Klan, He was in Conroe recently and said he would have stayed home if the Dallas Black Panthers had stayed in Dallas. He was backing the local law in punishing the whites who drug the Black man to death. One Sanders- Tommy and Lisa attend church with us in Hewitt. They have 3 children, I think. They are very active and rarely all miss church. On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:40:15 -0700 Diane Stavenhagen Kadletz <DianeSKadletz@worldnet.att.net> writes: >Hi everyone: > >Since this list is seeing lots of activity, I thought I'd repost my >family information to see if anything rings a bell. > >The family I'm stuck on is Charles H. Bradford and his wife, Eliza >Ledbetter. They were born in South Carolina (parents unknown). They >lived in Georgia, then Alabama before at least part of the familly >settled in Erath County, in the Double Mountain area. > >Charles died June 8, 1889 and Eliza died December 11, 1886. Both are >buried in Lipan. > >Their children are as follows: > >1) Mary Elizabeth Bradford born Aug 15 1836 >2) Lucy M. Bradford born Jan 13 1839 married Dec 14 1882 in Erath to >Mason Lowe >3) Andrew J. Bradford born Mar 4 1841 >4) Margaret J. Bradford born Apr 27 1846 married William Axline Nov >1875 >5) Nancy Caralina Bradford born Sep 20 1847 died Erath Dec 4 1940 (she >never married and is the only child mentioned in her father's will) >6) Sarah Frances Bradford born Feb 4 1849 >7) Martha Isabelle Bradford born Apr 30 1851 married Reuben Sanders >McKinzey in Fort Worth Dec 2 1875 died Jan 12 1929 in Erath. (Martha >and >her husband bought the family farm from Charles Bradford. Martha and >Reuben moved to Morgan Mill and are buried in Bishop Cemetery) >8) William J. Bradford born Mar 24 1853 married Robbie Chambless >9) Robert Samson Bradford born Oct 20 1855 married Sarah M. Ball in >Erath on Jan 8, 1880 >10) James Henry Thomas Bradford born May 29 1858 married Mary A. >Spence >11) George M. Bradford born Jan 5 1860 married Sarah M. Taylor >12) Samuel Bradford married Matilda Perkins >and possibly >13) Charles Bradford, may have died in infancy. > >There is no trace of the children, other than Martha and Nancy after >1880. > >Any connection would be greatly appreciated, I've been stuck on this >line for 10 years and can't seem to find a trace of them! > >Thanks for your help. > >Diane Stavenhagen Kadletz >DianeSKadletz@worldnet.att.net > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/15/1998 07:56:39
    1. [ERATH] BOWEN
    2. Jim & Donna Bowen
    3. James Hersal BOWEN, was born 13 July 1891 in Dublin, Erath Co. TX. s/o James Samuel Bowen & Melvina Vashti Welch. I kind of believe James Samuel Bowen might of worked in the railroad because of the way they moved around. He marr: Melvina in Eraph Co. 5 July 1885. James Samuel Bowen was the s/o Thomas C. Bowen & Lovann Desmond. Would love to find something regarding this Bowen family. 1870 Hopkins Co. - 1880 Bosque Co. - 1990 Montague Co. Jim & Donna Bowen <bowjay@foothill.net>

    08/15/1998 03:35:15
    1. [ERATH] Bradford Family
    2. Diane Stavenhagen Kadletz
    3. Hi everyone: Since this list is seeing lots of activity, I thought I'd repost my family information to see if anything rings a bell. The family I'm stuck on is Charles H. Bradford and his wife, Eliza Ledbetter. They were born in South Carolina (parents unknown). They lived in Georgia, then Alabama before at least part of the familly settled in Erath County, in the Double Mountain area. Charles died June 8, 1889 and Eliza died December 11, 1886. Both are buried in Lipan. Their children are as follows: 1) Mary Elizabeth Bradford born Aug 15 1836 2) Lucy M. Bradford born Jan 13 1839 married Dec 14 1882 in Erath to Mason Lowe 3) Andrew J. Bradford born Mar 4 1841 4) Margaret J. Bradford born Apr 27 1846 married William Axline Nov 1875 5) Nancy Caralina Bradford born Sep 20 1847 died Erath Dec 4 1940 (she never married and is the only child mentioned in her father's will) 6) Sarah Frances Bradford born Feb 4 1849 7) Martha Isabelle Bradford born Apr 30 1851 married Reuben Sanders McKinzey in Fort Worth Dec 2 1875 died Jan 12 1929 in Erath. (Martha and her husband bought the family farm from Charles Bradford. Martha and Reuben moved to Morgan Mill and are buried in Bishop Cemetery) 8) William J. Bradford born Mar 24 1853 married Robbie Chambless 9) Robert Samson Bradford born Oct 20 1855 married Sarah M. Ball in Erath on Jan 8, 1880 10) James Henry Thomas Bradford born May 29 1858 married Mary A. Spence 11) George M. Bradford born Jan 5 1860 married Sarah M. Taylor 12) Samuel Bradford married Matilda Perkins and possibly 13) Charles Bradford, may have died in infancy. There is no trace of the children, other than Martha and Nancy after 1880. Any connection would be greatly appreciated, I've been stuck on this line for 10 years and can't seem to find a trace of them! Thanks for your help. Diane Stavenhagen Kadletz DianeSKadletz@worldnet.att.net

    08/14/1998 10:40:15
    1. aco- mclennan county library is Re: [ERATH] ERATH COUNTY-BROCK & SLIGAR & MOBLEY
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. Hi,Carl and Sharon My sources include- besides growing up in a county where my great Grandad had 14 of his 23 Siblings from Georgia in the county with him- and Mom's Carey, hipp, Copeland, Stone, Carey and other Arkansas cousins in Erath County: SOME HISTORY OF THE JOHNSVILLE, PONY CREEK, AND CHALK MOUNTAIN COMMUNITIES WHO CONSOLIDATED TO FORM THE THREE WAY SCHOOL DISTRICT, ERATH COUNTY, TEXAS-285 pages of photos and family group histories, by Marilyn Giesecke Mills Ewers, 900 Glen Rose Road, Stephenville, Texas 76401 254-965-4984 ERATH COUNTY CEMETERY READINGS by Marylin Giesecke Mills Ewers, above GRAND OL' ERATH, 1974, Volume 1. by H.Grady Perry, Texas House of Representatives and Johnsville store owner on U.S.67, not the old post office. MEMORIES OF CLARA STIGLER ATKINS- CAN-T FIND EXACT NAME NOWS sHE WAS JOHNSVILLE, MERIDIAN, LINGLEVILLE, AND GRANDBURY TEACHER BORN IN CHALK MOUNTAIN. COPELAND FAMILY HISTORY, 1937 for reunion in Huricane Baptist Church, Clinton, South Carolina- Old Laurens District- some records in Mecklenburg County. Had me and younger cousins in Erath County, Texas listed. Included Vaughn- Vaughan, Nabors- Neighbors, German Hipp, White, Dillard, Carey, and others- from mom's scrapbook. HANDWRITTEN MOXLEY- FLEMING- MURPHY-AND OTHER MISSOURI AND INDIAN CREEK NOTES FROM 5 GENERATIONS WHO LIVED IN AND VISITED THE INDIAN CREEK MOXLEY HOME. SEVIER FAMILY HISTORY- With the letters of Gen. John Sevier (Rev. War Col., Governor of Franklin, 6 times governor of Tennessee at Knoxville) 550 pages by Cora Bailes Sevier and Nancy Sevier Madden. Includes Clarks, Kay, Wyly, Rampley, King, Sevier, & others in Central Texas. CLEVELAND GENEAOLOGY OF 1899 prepared for President Grover Cleveland in several volumes. Includes some Wyly, Clark, Cleveland, & Sevier descendants in Texas.sOME DATES AND PROVEABLE MARRIAGES ARE QUESTIONED BY dar SINCE 1970, BECAUSE ONE MAN HAD A TYPESETTING ERROR- HE WAS BORN AFTER HE DIED. TENNESSEE COUSINS, AN OLDER BOOK WITH FAMILY GROUPINGS. sOME DATES AND CONNECTIONS NEED CHECKING, NOTABLE SOUTHERN FAMILIES- DOUBLE CHECK ALL DATES. KNOXVILLE, 1958, by Betsy Beeler Creedmore. Includes Ramseys, Jack, Gillespie, McAllie, Sevier, Carey, Rankin, Cherokee Nancy Ward, Blont, and many more. YESTERDAY'S ATLANTA, 1977, BY Franklin M. Garrett. Many photos. THE PATRIOTS AT KING'S MOUNTAIN, 1990 by Bobby Gilmer Moss. The guides are now researching who the Black soldiers in N.C. , Ga, & Tenn. & S.C. militias were. Toby Cleveland , Col. Ben's gunsmith and blacksmith is probably one. It separates those known to be there from probables and those standing by at Burke Courthouse waiting for reinforcements. James Wyly was in this group but fought at Shallowford and Cowpens and made Banastare (?) Tarleton, British Officer, pay for massacreing Colonial Rebel families in the Carolinas TENNESSEE, A SHORT HISTORY 640 PAGES.W ELL RESEARCHED. BY STANLEY j. FOLMSBEE AND OTHERS. FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE AT KNOXVILLE THE CHEROKEE INDIAN ROLLS IN WACO GENEAOLOGY LIBRARY. anyone in Arkansas before 1900 had Cherokee blood or a close kin who did . 1/64 or less got eligibility for land. Sam Houston, Texas President said all of mixedotr full blood of any INDIAN tribe could settle on reservation north and east of Tyler.Pres. Lamar said no reservation but they could stay on their own farms . Thus, Cherokee County, and Alabama -Coshuta Reservation. THE TRAIL OF TEARS- BOOK- GIVES EXAMPLES OF ONES WHO HAD BOTH gone west early living in Anglocultur and those who were forced to go. Names many who were ancestors of Present day Oklahoma and Arkansas. TEXAS STATE LIBRARY- AUSTIN STATE CAPITOL GROUNDS- best for records of war with Mexico. If your ancestor was in Texas and volunteered to Scout for Taylor's ARMY, THEY MAY BE LISTED AS DESERTERS ACTUALLY, MEN LIKE DR.HATCHETT AND HIS BROTHER WERE PART OF THE TEMPORARY TEXAS RANGERS UNDER TEXAS JURISDICTION FOR 3 MONTHS. AT THE END OF THAT TIME, Army CONSIDERRED THEM awol EVEN THOUGH TtEXAS LAW CONSIDERRED THEIR TIME UP. Only Capt. Ben McCulough and his men from the Waco area stayed with the Army and saved them from slaughter by scoutiong. These Ranger volunteers were the first force in the world to charge the enemy with a six gun in each hand , fireing 12 times. U.S. Army rode forward, stopped horses, got off, fired a single shot, loaded, tamped, remounted, and charged again. This has been on recent PBS TV stations, explaining Austin records people find , fail to understand, and some ignore. Waco- mclennan county library is better than the one above for Texas immigrants after Mexican war, 1845. THE TEXAS COLLECTION- Baylor University, Waco NOT THE MAIN LIBRARY THE SONS OF THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS LIBRARY- AUSTIN-was in the old Land Office Building on capitol grounds. THE ALAMO LIBRARY- San Antonio. First records I found of Capt. Alfred Henderson Wyly of East Tennessee and his East Texas Redlanders- mostly Balch in laws or cousins from Greeneville Tennessee- and Henderson, Texas. They joined Sam Houston with 2 other Groups at Groce's Crossing the day Sam Houston turned and fought. He knew the Texas and Yucatecian Navies had kept Santa Anna's navy from meeting him in Texas rivers with food and ammo. Santa Anna's navies never got out of Vera Cruz and he was hungry and low on supplies Texas Admiral Moore settled in San Angelo, Texas. after New Orleans businessmen had repossessed much of the navies. THE TEXAS NAVIES by Rear Admiral Robinson, Eulogy, Texas. . THE SAN JACINTO RECORDS IN THE MONUMENT- pLAQUE IN THEATRE ROOM HONORS THOSE ABOVE. Sevier Reeunion and records- Gatlainburg, Tenn and Wyly Reunion shared records, Stephenville, Texas. AND TARRANT TUGGLE, HERNDON, HATCHETT, WYLY , Mitchell, Eddins, Yowell and related info exchanged with Jim Hatchett, Baird, Texas Velma Kay Hutchins, Houston, Texas Janice Ranee Clark, Houston, Texas for Wyly, Clark , Tarrant, Tuggle, herndon, Hatchett and other info in Ga. and central Texas. (Dr. Hatchett's mom Liza Tuggle and Rev. B.T.Stevens & wife, his wive's parents of Georgia are buried Selden Hatchett Cemetery- In Belgium Tuggle was Tugglestine a few centuries ago. Tarrant, Tuggle and Herndon families made navy Uniforms 300 years in Bradford England. One gave the present Christ Church to Bradford congregation). ) Mattie Roberts Somerville, Clinton, La. Margaret Budd Stephenson, Covington, Georgia, Jerry Taylor, Hiawasse Georgia Lemuel David Wyly, Jr. , Atlanta, Ga. Van Hipp, Charleston, South Carolina Dr. Sandra lee, Dallas, Georgia. cemeteries and historic homes in Tennessee and Georgia Janice (Kay) Furman , Albequerque, New Mexico (Family of John Kay, first Selden postmaster and Stephenville businessman) Janice Wyly Slaughter, Stephenville born, Siblings Atlanta born, dad had Stephenvolle and other stores and cotton yards. including Mineola, Dallas, Galveston Compress, and Comanche, where Ben F. Wyly is buried. He lost an eye in Civil War Battle of Knoxville & granddaughter janice Married Georger Slaughter of Slaughter Ranch. , Roswell headquarters. She traced family back into Europe, I think. Jan Shaw, Erath county roots & Oklahoma researcher of Eugene Wyly and Loudelia Bateman, married Stephenville, Texas. She is on Cherokee Rolls & from Mecklenburg County, Va to Augusta Ga. for Scotch Irish roots. Rex Carey for exchanging Erath County, Arkansas, and Tenn. & Sc roots of Carey, Stone, Bateman, Copeland, Hipp and related families. and last but definitely not least - the personal contact with so many Erath County folk at Pony Creek and Selden church centenials, and other church and school activities Thresher, combine, harvest and hay crews, and knowing neighbors who did not lock their doors and dug the graves of friends until I was grown. . Pardon me if I missed someone. On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:36:05 -0500 Carl and Sharon Bean <ceb@xit.net> writes: >Hi: > >We are really enjoying your stories about the families. We were just >there in Dublin, Lingleville and Stephenville finding and taking >photo's >of headstones in the cemetaries. We did our hunting, early evening, >when it was not QUITE so hot. > >The information you are sharing, is it from a publication that can be >purchased? Would you check these surnames for any entries. > >Sharon >Texas Panhandle > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/14/1998 09:27:56
    1. Re: [ERATH] FRY FAMILY
    2. Sue Skinner
    3. charles a Wyly wrote: .... <snip . ..... Bobby Joe had played in the old Texas League for Roswell against the Fort Worth Cats. ....<snip> ... Dear Charles A. Wyly, Would love to hear what you can relate about the old Texas League .. My Dad grew up near Morgan Mill. After he married Ottis Blackwell from Lipan, Hood County, they lived at Tolar and he was a ball player in the early 1900's. At least one year Mom ran a boarding house for the team members. Dad was Irving Mack Patterson. His "Uncle Dave", David Patterson was an Erath County Commissioner in the early 1900's. Grandmother, Trecy Louella Hightower Patterson and two sons are buried at Hightower Cemetery between Morgan Mill and Lipan. There is also a Patterson Plot there where many of the other Patterson Clan are buried. Many thanks .. I love reading your posts .. even when I don't know the people! Sue Patterson Skinner

    08/14/1998 10:21:40
    1. Re: [ERATH] FRY FAMILY
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. Hi, ill tell all I know I remember some Frys in Stephenville, but I thought they spelt it Frey. One was an officer in Farmers First National Bank, now Nations Bank. IT seems that one ran a boarding house with public family style meals, like the Minter house. I ate at the Minter house sometimes, or the Stigler Grocery back room for the rural cracckers and cheese crowd. Don't remember the Johnsville ones, but in 1936-1940-s the old two story blacksmith shop across from the Belcher's Johnsville store and postoffice, was still there. It was in the corner of the Mills family farm and was a parking lot for Bosque valley league baseball- . The teams were Johnsville, Iredell, Stephenville, Dublin, White Settlement, and another or two. The Mills boys, Bobby Joe Stacy, and Bob Ford & Leonard Christopher were the ones which stand out in memory.Bobby Joe had played in the old Texas League for Roswell against the Fort Worth Cats. The blacksmith ship I remember was a two story unpainted building. We used to get a Whistle Vess or Coke and have some serious horseshoes and washer toss games in the bottom. It was the community gym, I guess. The doors and windows were gone downstairs, if it ever had any. We did not lock our houses. There had been a Lodge hall upstairs, like Chalk Mountain and I think someone had lived in it. We stayed out upstairs- the stairs were gone. ULOTH? I taught Johnny Uloth at Walnut Springs about 1960. I taught him Algebra, geometry, and history. We alternated Algebra II and Geometry. He married Kay Tanner. Her dad was a law officer killed in line of duty. Her mom remarried the widowed Ag Teacher who had 3 sons. - W.H.Heartsill. Johnny or his dad had a dairy across from the cemetery at one time. Blakeley? I think some of the older Blakeleys still were in Walnut Springs. During the Railroad shop and roundhouse days Blakeleys had stores in Stephenville, Walnut Springs, and others, I think. Cox? I grew up in the old Reed Cox home north of George Cox. The barn was an older 3 or 4 room house. I understand there were at least 3 Cox brothers in the Civil War. One had stores in Stephenville, Waco, and Fort Worth. Dad bought his shoes there from Lonnie Hicks. He followed Cox's to Waco and then opened Lonnie Hicks shoes in Marlin. He was living in 1990 and younger family ran the store. Ask the oldest there if Pearl Hicks, Stephenville teacher and her blind sister were his sisters. Reed Cox lived between us and school. I can still hear Granny Cox under the Johnsville tabernacle singing "There's an all seeing Eye Watching You". She reported behavior such as smoking by students walking home to our parents. Sometimes she was that eye. I understand that Reed had a brother who was an Indian agent in Oklahoma and married one of Quannah Parker's daughters. HOPE? I remember Alva Hope well. That generation built their own homes like Grandad did, set by theNorth star at night. They lived frugal enough that a one year drought would not cost them their farm and home. Alva lived past Evergreen in Rabbit Center (Welcome Valley) in a neat small house , gardened, and did mechanic and other work. After retirement he made yard decorations in his shop and sold them and watermellons and sometimes fruit from his front yard. He lived next door to Jimmy Green. SHAW? When I attended Pony Creek church, Russell Bunch did also. He had fixed a garage for a home for Tom shaw and Aunt |Celia. She lived to 112. Tom had a buggy mail route but gave it up when cars were retired as his palsy shakes would not allow him to drive a car. After that, she moved in with "Aunt Marthy and Uncle Ed" Cox in their new home they bought from Mr, Hale, In grade chool she would pull in me and J.R. Wright and others our age who might be coughing, set us down by the fireplace, and give us a cookie and a spoon of whiskey in honey to stop our cough. The "Big Boys" would cough their heads off trying to gether attention, but she just ignored them until she heard a REAL cough. Grandad's Uncle Guss Hatcchett, farmer and baptist preacher, like his dad Dr. Hatchett, married a shaw before my time . Her family ran the Johnsville Store. JOHN BUNCH was a self taught folk medicine veterinarian. He used to treat cows for "Hollow Horn" and Hollow Tail. He split the skin on their tail and wraped it with a handfull of salt. The cow would sure gert up and move some way. Our Ag teacher taught us that ALL cows have hollow horns. John Bunch, John Little, John Belcher, John Skipper, and 10 or more we learned in Grade school with Mrs. Clara Atkins probably got Johnsville its name. Before that some called it POODLEVILLE. Someone from Stephencille took a Sunday buggy ride towards Glen Rose and saw several new houses. They remarked-"Whooda thought it- ther'e building now houses way out here" so Mrs. Atkins said some nicknamed it Whodathotit" I think homes on the Dufffau and Pony Creek were older than Stephenville. Duffau and Thurber and Hico had trains long before Stephenville. Thurber records should be in Stephenville. There was a suburban overflow of people who did not work for TP Coal or Acme Brick or the TP railroad into Palo Pinto County aroung Mingus, when Erath County went dry. Some records should be in Palo Pinto. Mineral Wells is not the county seat. Immigrants to Newcastle mines at Graham were mostly Czech and some migrated to West which has become Heavily Czech and many Germans nearby. The Thurber Historical Association is in Stephenville. The company owned Union town had 10, ooo. Some claim that was workers, not their wives and kids. I don't know. When the largest bar between Fort Worth and El Paso was built across the county line, some claims say there more around the city limits than in it- con artists, peddlers, fruit stands, & people outside the town and the union. This was the first town in the U.S. with citywide treated water, fire plugs each corner, and synchronized Traffic lights. John L Lewis strike made oil from Hogtown and Ranger than coal, if Union demands were met, so the town died. The workers were paid in Company script which Stephenville merchants discounted. The company owned the homes. The Johnson Ranch is still there. Near Thurber there is a library owned and well maintained with heat & moisture controlled with all minig records, including each immigrant, and each American worked there, how much they mined or what they did the members of the family , I misse Grade school to help dad and Uncle Lewis Wyly haul bricks from Thurber to build chickenhouse foundations . This library is not open to the public. I wish it was,on Computer Disc. One of dad's cousins, Velma, married a Tackett. A Tackett from Wisconsin contacted me- her family had worked in the Thurber mines and Madison libraries had no record of Thurber. Mrs. Atkins was a niece of Crid Hatchett, a Tennessee Church of Christ Elder, cousin of Dr. Hatchett, who settled in Chalk Mountain. When she retired at Granbury, The Hood and Tarrant County PTA's gave her a free trip to Europe. Take care- happy hunting. Charles Wyly On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:03:19 EDT Ldfrje@aol.com writes: >Hello Charles Wyly, > >I would appreciate any information you or anyone else might have on my >family. >I find my Grandfather Bartlett FRY (b 1843) in the 1870 census in >Stephenville >with wife Amanda ?, and daughter Nancy one year old. I would love to >know who >this Amanda was, as I do not find marriage records for them. My >grandfather's >brother Thomas J. FRY is also living in Stephenville with wife >Elizabeth >Sylvina CARMACK. Thomas and "Vinnie" as she was called, had three >daughters. >Florence Nightengale FRY (b. 1867 in Stephenville) married James >Miller >STEPHEN in 1887 in Erath county. Florence and James children were: >Olin (b >1887) in Stephenville, Ethel Abbarilla (b 1891) married Elvest C. POND >in >1917, and Edith Ester (b 1897) married a Mr. Hays. Thomas and >Vinnie's second >daughter was Susan FRY (b 1871) in Stephenville and the third daughter >was >Julia FRY (b 1875). Julia married N. Bates COX in Stephenville in >1895. Julia >had a daughter named Nieta COX born 1895 in Stephenville. In 1880 my >grandfather's other brother Isaac Newton FRY is living in Erath county >with >wife Narcissus COOK. In the 1880 census my Great Grandmother Delilah >(FRY) >MCNEILL is living with her son Isaac FRY. I think at that time they >were >living in Clairette. My Great Grandmother died after 1880 probably in >Calirette. Do not know where she is buried - probably no marker. >Isaac & >Narcissus had a daughter Mary Safronia FRY (b 1873) near Greens Creek, >between >Alexander & Stephenville. Mary Safronia (Fronie for short) married >Fred ULOTH >in Walnut Springs (Bosque county) in January of 1900. Isaac & >Narcissus also >had a son, Newton Franklin FRY (Newt was b 1887) in Clairette. Newt >married >first Ruth SALMON then Anna BLAKELY. My grandfather Bartlett FRY's >oldest >son, George David FRY married Mary (Mollie) Hanson HOPE in 1899 at the >Stephenville courthouse. Aunt Mollie was married previously to a Lee >DAVIDSON >and had a son by Lee. Their son was Rector Lee DAVIDSON. Aunt >Mollie's >parents (Rector Christman HOPE & Sarah Jane LUSTER) raised Rector >DAVIDSON in >Johnsville. Rector married Vinnie SHAW. My uncle David FRY was a >blacksmith >in the community of Johnsville. My cousin Lola was born in Johnsville >on >January 29, 1902. Lola is still living. She was 96 years old in >January of >1998. She still remembers the community of Johnsville and talks about >it >often. She said they lived above the blacksmith shop and when she was >2 or 3 >days old the blacksmith shop burned at night. All they got out with >was the >clothes on their back. It was in January and there was snow on the >ground and >very cold. Uncle David left Johnsville in 1907 and moved to Hamilton. > In the >summer of 1909 - August or September - they moved to west Dallas where >Uncle >David was again a blacksmith. In 1910 Uncle David contracted typhoid >- he >almost died. His brother John FRY, who lived next door and was also a >blacksmith, did die on Feb. 10, 1910 of typhoid. My Uncle John FRY >married >Janie Mae BUNCH of Johnsville in 1906 in Cedar Hill in Erath county. >Janie's >parents were John Blackwell BUNCH & Mary Elizabeth SHAW. My Dad >(Charles >Newton FRY born 1879) who lived in the community of Webb in Tarrant >County >went to Dallas in a wagon to pick up his brother's body. He brought >his >brother's wooden coffin back and placed it on the back porch for a >couple of >weeks (according to my half sister Susie who is 93) while he dug the >grave. >The ground was frozen in February so it took a while to chisel out a >grave. >Aunt Janie's father (John BUNCH) came to Dallas and took her back to >Johnsville after Uncle John died. I have been told that Aunt Janie >died in >Johnsville 28 days after Uncle John died. She is buried in Pony Creek >Cemetery behind Box Church. She has no marker. Aunt Mollie was >pregnant - >after she had the baby she contracted the measles and was very ill. >While he >had the measles the baby died. In the fall of 1910 Aunt Mollie told >Uncle >David that she had had enough illness and death and she wanted to >leave Dallas >and go back to the country. They moved back to Erath County. In the >fall of >1913 they moved to Thurber. Uncle David had a job working in Thurber >as a >blacksmith for T&P Coal. They lived there for five years. In 1917 >they moved >to Fort Worth because Uncle David had a job working on Camp Bowie. If >anyone >has any information, no matter how minor, on any of these families I >would >love to hear from you. > >Lola > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/14/1998 07:06:57
    1. [ERATH] Disappearing Witness
    2. Chris & Sheila Hale
    3. I recently learned that my ancester John Peter Hale who lived near Proctor in Comanche Co. disappeared about 1876/1877. The story goes that he left home to be a witness at a murder trial and was never seen again. On a recent trip to Comanche we checked the court records for something that sounded like this. Unfortunately almost all the murder trial files for that period have walked. We have no way of knowing where this trial may have occured. The family would likely have gone into Erath Co. to do business rather than cross the river to go to Comanche. Does anyone find anything familiar about the disappering witness story. Thanks in advance Sheila I Hale Fort McMurray,AB,Canada

    08/13/1998 09:27:41
    1. Re: [ERATH] Albert J. Jackson
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. Ever hear of Emory Rawls of Rawls, , Texas- High Plains northeast of Lubbock? The town was named for his Grandfather, I think. He had a ranch between Glen Rose, Eulogy, and Walnut Springs , Texas on Hill Creek.His wife was a PTA officer and made occasional trips on Cruise ships as a hostess and bridge instructor. His daughter Cynthia worked in my office at Walnut Springs, one period a day, filing and answering the phone. She and her little brother rode the bus I drove into the edge of Erath County- 55 miles full route. Hill Creek started from a spring running from solid rock in a waterfall at the upper end of Panther Cave, where a Stephens left his wife while he ox carted supplies from Waco to Fort Graham and could stop and see his wife both directions. Oscar Parham, my high school bus driver said there was once a cavern which dogs did not return from when chasing varmits into- itr was said to have a drop off and was filled with a dozer for safety. Near the pool at the foot of the waterfall one could hang one cowhide and have a large comfortable room.a hundred or so sheep could be shelterred under the overhang on the other side if it did not flood too much. Mrs. Stephens had twins there- named Cliff and Cave. Both lived past 90, living in 1950's. On the opposite side, "Bull " Adams , Glen Rose Rhodes Scholar dug up remains of some Indians and artifacts and screnned the dirt. It is on private property, well protected from north wind, and don't ask what went on there during prohibition days. Mrs. Adams was a Glen Rose Science teacher 1950's. It is very hazardous to amateurs and loaded with Grandaddy Rattlesnakes. The dirt fill in the cavern part has sunk enough for rattlesnakes to go over it. I once carried science students from the local area who knew the surroundings there to gather science specimens. Mrs. Stephens was once doing her laundry by the waterfall with a tub, turned and saw a Panther coming down the tree toward her twins. She grabbed her gun and shot and killed it. Thus the name Panther Cave. It drains into the Brazos above Lake Whitney. This has been published in Stephenville and other papers. Early roads did not follow the black land mud roads of Hwy 6 route, but the gravel ridges and mountain passes. There was one Bumper Gate Road from Cranfils Gap to Iredell to Black Stump Valley to Chalk Mountain to Maratheal's Gap to Paluxy to Tolar or Bluff Dale. The only operating bumper gate I know of today is on Hwy 77 near Rosebud- Loot in the Mennonite farm area south of Waco. Before fences, Mr Stephens went to Graham and past with freight for Army and Indians. A barn still standing on the old Rough Creek Ranch road was a stagecoach stop for Waco north pasengers. There were Jacksons in Chalk Mountain and Hico. One has run a store there in recent years. I rode Mr. Parham's bus to Stephenville High with one. He lived by Stacey famil;y. Luther Jackson attended Pony Creek Church and was converted past 40. He was a good neighbor. he waited until Spring to be Baptized in Buck Little's pasture on the Duffau, refusing offers of an indoor baptistry- He said he wanted to follow Jesus's pattern as near as he could. Jeff Jackson teaches Vocational Agriculture at Midway High School, Hewitt. On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:45:18 -0500 "patm" <patm@lcc.net> writes: >Searching for information on my GG grandfather, Albert J. Jackson. >Presumably, he was born abt. 1871 in Alabama (Limestone or Madison >County?) > He moved to Texas, (maybe to the Marlin, Kosse, Thornton area) at >some >point. > >He married Annie? (Nan?) Rochelle. Not sure if they married in >Alabama or >Texas. > >Albert and Annie had six children. > > Oran > Bennie Rawls > Shelly > Birdie > Rabe > Cora > >Any help will be greatly appreciated. > >Pat > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/13/1998 09:13:03
    1. [ERATH] FRY FAMILY
    2. Hello Charles Wyly, I would appreciate any information you or anyone else might have on my family. I find my Grandfather Bartlett FRY (b 1843) in the 1870 census in Stephenville with wife Amanda ?, and daughter Nancy one year old. I would love to know who this Amanda was, as I do not find marriage records for them. My grandfather's brother Thomas J. FRY is also living in Stephenville with wife Elizabeth Sylvina CARMACK. Thomas and "Vinnie" as she was called, had three daughters. Florence Nightengale FRY (b. 1867 in Stephenville) married James Miller STEPHEN in 1887 in Erath county. Florence and James children were: Olin (b 1887) in Stephenville, Ethel Abbarilla (b 1891) married Elvest C. POND in 1917, and Edith Ester (b 1897) married a Mr. Hays. Thomas and Vinnie's second daughter was Susan FRY (b 1871) in Stephenville and the third daughter was Julia FRY (b 1875). Julia married N. Bates COX in Stephenville in 1895. Julia had a daughter named Nieta COX born 1895 in Stephenville. In 1880 my grandfather's other brother Isaac Newton FRY is living in Erath county with wife Narcissus COOK. In the 1880 census my Great Grandmother Delilah (FRY) MCNEILL is living with her son Isaac FRY. I think at that time they were living in Clairette. My Great Grandmother died after 1880 probably in Calirette. Do not know where she is buried - probably no marker. Isaac & Narcissus had a daughter Mary Safronia FRY (b 1873) near Greens Creek, between Alexander & Stephenville. Mary Safronia (Fronie for short) married Fred ULOTH in Walnut Springs (Bosque county) in January of 1900. Isaac & Narcissus also had a son, Newton Franklin FRY (Newt was b 1887) in Clairette. Newt married first Ruth SALMON then Anna BLAKELY. My grandfather Bartlett FRY's oldest son, George David FRY married Mary (Mollie) Hanson HOPE in 1899 at the Stephenville courthouse. Aunt Mollie was married previously to a Lee DAVIDSON and had a son by Lee. Their son was Rector Lee DAVIDSON. Aunt Mollie's parents (Rector Christman HOPE & Sarah Jane LUSTER) raised Rector DAVIDSON in Johnsville. Rector married Vinnie SHAW. My uncle David FRY was a blacksmith in the community of Johnsville. My cousin Lola was born in Johnsville on January 29, 1902. Lola is still living. She was 96 years old in January of 1998. She still remembers the community of Johnsville and talks about it often. She said they lived above the blacksmith shop and when she was 2 or 3 days old the blacksmith shop burned at night. All they got out with was the clothes on their back. It was in January and there was snow on the ground and very cold. Uncle David left Johnsville in 1907 and moved to Hamilton. In the summer of 1909 - August or September - they moved to west Dallas where Uncle David was again a blacksmith. In 1910 Uncle David contracted typhoid - he almost died. His brother John FRY, who lived next door and was also a blacksmith, did die on Feb. 10, 1910 of typhoid. My Uncle John FRY married Janie Mae BUNCH of Johnsville in 1906 in Cedar Hill in Erath county. Janie's parents were John Blackwell BUNCH & Mary Elizabeth SHAW. My Dad (Charles Newton FRY born 1879) who lived in the community of Webb in Tarrant County went to Dallas in a wagon to pick up his brother's body. He brought his brother's wooden coffin back and placed it on the back porch for a couple of weeks (according to my half sister Susie who is 93) while he dug the grave. The ground was frozen in February so it took a while to chisel out a grave. Aunt Janie's father (John BUNCH) came to Dallas and took her back to Johnsville after Uncle John died. I have been told that Aunt Janie died in Johnsville 28 days after Uncle John died. She is buried in Pony Creek Cemetery behind Box Church. She has no marker. Aunt Mollie was pregnant - after she had the baby she contracted the measles and was very ill. While he had the measles the baby died. In the fall of 1910 Aunt Mollie told Uncle David that she had had enough illness and death and she wanted to leave Dallas and go back to the country. They moved back to Erath County. In the fall of 1913 they moved to Thurber. Uncle David had a job working in Thurber as a blacksmith for T&P Coal. They lived there for five years. In 1917 they moved to Fort Worth because Uncle David had a job working on Camp Bowie. If anyone has any information, no matter how minor, on any of these families I would love to hear from you. Lola

    08/13/1998 01:03:19
    1. Re: [ERATH] KEAHEY ANCESTRY
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. JIM KEAHEY FOUND- IN FRONT OF HIS HOME WITH RUTHIE KEAHEY , "DOC " BELCHER AND MAMIE DAVIS BELCHER Mamie Belcher Davis lived with these keaheys from age 9 to 14; in Marathal's Gap/Skipper's Gap area- between Johnsville and Chalk Mountain, Texas. Mamie was a lifelong friend and mother of Harold Davis, son of Charlie Davis. Harold and I attended school together until the World War 2 eligibility rule kicked in- pass all subjects or the Draft Board needs you yesterday Harold married JoAnnTolar of Selden and they had 2 sons and 4 ?grandchildren FROM THE 1995 BOOK OF HISTORY OF JOHNSVILLE, PONY CREEK, AND CHALK MOUNTAIN COMMUNITIES by Marilyn Giesekie Mills Ewers, 900 Glen Rose Highway, Stephenville, Texas 76401- phone 817 (may be 254 now) 965-4964 Mamie Belcher and my Great aunt by marriage Etta Robinson Moxleyh ad stayed together some. They were descendants of Choctaw Bill Robinson , Frontier Baptist Minister , buried Comanche, Texas. Jim Keahey had a white beard, long on each side and short in the middle. These pages refer to They are buried in the Box/Pony Creek cemetery. Others in Wesley Chapel Cemetery, Bluff Dale, Evans Cemetery, now open pasture in front of Pony Creek Church- tombstones hidden by cedars but still readable. This is not the Beech Family cemetery which is still maintained. The Beech, The old Pony Creek cemetery of Evans & Keahey and others and the present Pony Creek Baptist/\Box Methodist are all within 2000 yards of the Pony Creek church in different directions and the site of the Box Methodist Church, Lodge Hall and public school., where my Great Aunt Susie Moxley taught one year. Other Keaheys in Indian Creek CemSome from Alabama, some from N.C. which included Tennessee before the Territory south of the Ohio was separated from N.C. They did not move as much as the State and territory boundaries were changing. You could go to bed in Tenn. & wake up in Ala. as the boundary was being surveyed William Blont became the first Territorial Governor as Knoxville was being built. His half brother Willie Blont pronounced his name WYLY Blont. This book is 8 1/2 by 11"and has 285 pages of text and old and recent photos. Marilyn notes in it that some materials submitted to her are now in a scrapbook in the Stephenville Public Library. Marilyn also published the Erath County Cemetery readings. The wedding of Allie McGraw and Buck Williams took place in James keahey's home. On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:04:26 EDT KLCoombs@aol.com writes: Take care, Charles Wyly >Mr Dunn -- Thanks! > >Sounds like these folks are well documented going BACK to Adam and >Eve. I >don't have any Keahey ancestry myself, I'm trying to trace FORWARD >from >Archie, as his descendants have common ancestors with me on their >mother's >ROBERSON side. > >Mr. Wyle, that walking goldmine of info (BLESS YOU!!) had mentioned in >an e- >mail to me that he had known some Keahey's a generation or so back and >I was >just wanting to put out the word to anyone who might have Keahey >ancestry on >this list. > >If y'all are out there, I can give you info on your Robersons back to >about >1770 in South Carolina. But would LOVE info on Martha Roberson >Keahey's >children, grandchildren, etc. Plus, anybody got a picture of Martha? >We're >collecting photos of all the siblings... > >Kathryn C > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/13/1998 12:52:07
    1. [ERATH] Fellows Surname
    2. JONBON
    3. Mr Wyly, Really enjoy the history of Erath County. Do you know any thing about the Fellows Family. Edward L. ( Kiny ) Fellows, b Sept. 18, 1876 , is my grandfather. One of his son's William Henry Fellows moved to the Stephenville about 1937 or 38. Uncle Henry Henry and Aunt Dora children are : Una , Edward , and Billy Joe. There is another Henry Fellows that died in Erath County in the 20's or early 30 's , I belive this Henry to be his uncle but have not made connection. John jonbon@prodigy.net

    08/13/1998 11:54:03
    1. [ERATH] My Roots
    2. Martin Y. Florida
    3. Hi I am new to this list, I have just found out that my Ggrandparents are from Stephenville. I am hoping for any information anyone can give me. This is what I know or have been told about them. There names were John Henry Lawson, and Nancy Elizabeth (Hardcastle) Lawson. They had three children that I know of, their names were John Henry Lawson Elizabeth Lawson (my grandmother) Esta Lee Lawson (she was born in Oklahoma) I was told they came to Oklahoma for the land race, and I've also been told Nancy Elizabeth was Indian. Any information would be deeply appreciated. Thanks Erna

    08/13/1998 07:24:19
    1. [ERATH] KEAHEY ANCESTORS
    2. Tommy Dunn
    3. Ms. Coombs, I was going to give you a brief synopsis on your ancestors but as I started digging, I have determined that a tremendous amount of the book is about your kin! I rarely ever encourage anyone to buy a book sight unseen but I feel this is one you should get, especially if you are building your own library. I do have one book I bought sight unseen and it was wasted money as it was more of a copy of a telephone book. In KEAHEY CLASNMEN REVISITED, P. 17, Archie is listed as the child of James Keahey, Jr and Lydia Autrey. P.25 listed him as Archie S. Keahey b. 12/31/1845; d April 23 1914 buried in Erath Co., Texas m. Martha Elizabeth Robertson b. May 4, 1844; d Nov. 13, 1934. She was the daughter of Tom and Peggy(Emerson) Robertson. Archie and Martha had 12 children I shall list below. I am using the words "with follow-ups" meaning their children are also in the book. I won't list their children's children, etc as it is just too long. This is something I do not have in a database at present so it's not available for me to just e-mail it to you. The 12 were: George Reed- 10 children with followups on 8 James Thomas John Wesley- 12 children with followups on 9 Emaline Martha -2 children with followups on both Ann Margaret - 7 children with followps on 6 Benjamin Franklin- 8 no followups William Henry - 10 children with followups on seven Odocia Mary Adeline - 4 children with followup on 1 Joseph Monroe - 8 children with followups on 6 Ella Malinda Myrtie Irene There is at least three more generations of each. I had been told to get this book for my GRAHAM line but did not want to buy it unless I knew my kin were in it. My husband and I made a trip to Nacogdoches, stayed at the Pine Creek Lodge Bed and Breakfast (out in the quiet{except for the frogs at night} country), met the author and her daughter, then purchased the book. I think it was $25.00 and is 275 pages long. It is spiral bound with a card stock cover. I would say you would be happy with the information on Archie and Martha's descendants. There are a bunch! Hope this helps, let me know. Joyce Dunn

    08/12/1998 10:25:07
    1. Re: [ERATH] Squaw Creek
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. SQUAW CREEK REVISITED- May have found it- not sure. Something in my memory said look at maps again. The Texas Almanac, published by Dallas Moriung News, county maps show thew Squaw Creek Neuclear Plant resivoir in Somerville and Hood Counties and Squaw Creek is mapped to below Tolar, a short distance from the Erath County line Somervell County is the third smallest county in the State. Between Berry's Creek, Erath County and Robinson Creek - \thorp Springs (Old TCU Home after Waco & before Fort Worth) - between Lipan, Hood County and Bluff Dale, Erath County, Squaw Creek could easily have Erath County watershed. - east of Morgan Mill. The Prairie Branch or Hurley Branch of the Duffau flows several miles before most maps show and Squaw Creek could too. Seems Dad mentioned that . i didn't always listen good. FM 1189 goes that direction. Don't know how I missed that as much as we used to ride our Motorcycles on the Paluxy. National Endurance runs were run there in 1920-40's and some rallies out of Hico still are. The Squaw Creek hits the Paluxy at Camp Tres Rios, a camping, swimming, and bluegrass music center. A mile or less down it hits the Brazos and goes through a narrow pass. i have seen several acres flooded there before Possum kingdom Dam was finished at Mineral Wells. Hwy 67 to Cleburne would be closed. Also the Steinbeck Bend where the horshoe bend of the Brazos meets the Bosque below Lovers Leap used to flood a few hundred acres of flat land where Baylor has now found a herd of Mastadon cows and babies, the cows apparently trying to hold the babies head above water or mud. East Waco used to flood from the Brazos and the Bosque. Lake Waco is at the junction of the 4 Bosques, not on the Brazos. The Balcones Fault line follows the Bosque down the Brazos. That is our part time Lake Brazos where National Speedboat races are held. (The automatic levelling dams sometimes get logs jammed in them or the Hydraulic adjusting lines break). Still confused? I think Squaw Creek may start in Erath County, as do the Duffau, the East and North Bosque, the Paluxy, Richardson Creek, Pony Creek, Greens Creek, Alarm Creek, . , Sims Creek, Flag Branch, Indian Creek, Pole Holler , and a few more. Why did did Selden kids think they had to go to the Colorado Bend west of Lampassas to go fishing.? Are the fish bigger on the other side of the hill? Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:13:44 EDT KLCoombs@aol.com writes: >Joe Lee wrote (Hi Cousin-in-law!) > ><<Mr Wyly, >Do you happen to know where Squaw Creek is? I am aware of the one by >Glen Rose but this one must be somewhere around the Duffau, >Johnsville, >etc. area.Looking fwd to hearing from you...Joe Lee in Evant, Texas>> > >Good Question! My ancestors Ellis Ragsdill, Sr. and his son John >Milligan >Ragsdill** >are shown the 1860 census as living at Squaw Creek, Erath County. As >two of >John's siblings turn up at Glen Rose by 1880, I had thought originally >that >Somervell may have been formed from Erath and it was basically the >same creek. >NOT SO, apparently. Somervell was formed from Hood and Johnson >counties, >neither of which were formed from Erath, so it must have been a >different >squaw creek. > >One thought occurred in doing a GNIS search, however. Erath County is >full of >dams. Any chance that Squaw Creek could have been a tributary of a >larger >creek like Duffau Creek or Green Creek, etc etc that has been lost by >having >been dammed up or its source being dammed up or something like that. >Just a >thought. I know VERY little about hte county and am handicapped by >never >having BEEN there. > >Can Mr. Wyly enlighten us on when these dams were built and on any >lost place >names, etc. resulting from this? > >I'll bet if we looked in land records, Joe, for our respective >ancestors who >lived on Squaw Creek, we might get some latitude and longitude >coordinates >that would tell us where these places were?????? Or were the grants >like >colonial ones, with the boundaries being landmarks like "the hollow >tree" and >"the corner of Jones' place" > >Kathryn Coombs > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/12/1998 09:03:18
    1. Re: [ERATH] Squaw Creek
    2. charles a Wyly
    3. Hi. Charles Wyly back again. The last count I heard was that since 1953 flood on the Bosque which went 30 feet over the 75 year mark and cost me a Pontiac, A Buick, parto of my Uncle's shop, and a short hospital stay, they have built 17 dams above Stephenville. Maybe more. Many more below- all dirt dams of a few acres each. Will be more built to keep Erath County dairy waste out of Lake Waco. Part of Lake Waco is poluted from Nitrates from McGregor Rockedyne Missle factory, now closed. They claim to be controlling the South Bosque runoff now. Middle Bosque is clean East Bosque and Flag Branch come from the top of the Ridge west of Glen Rose into the North Bosque near Iredell. Don't think The Squaw Creek would go into them- too close to the other Squaw Creek. In Grady perry's Grand Old Erath book he states that Erath County is the only county in the U.S. with no streams running into it- all run out out of it into the Bosque, the Brazos (Lipan) , the Leon, and The Paluxy . The Paluxy is the only undammed river in the State that size. A dam is planned above the rock crossings near Comanche Peak Neuclear Plant at Glen Rose above the State Park with the Dinosaur Tracks. If you go back to Glen Rose, see "The Promise " Pageant in outdoor theatre and the Dinosaur indoor exhibit and the Creation Science Museu.m run by a P.Hd. former atheist who claims to have found human footprints in a dinosaur track and a fossilized finger in the same formation with a human looking nail on it. Also stop at Fossil Rim Wildlife Refuge and camp out in the Glen Rose parks. Sulphur water no longer flows freely. On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:13:44 EDT KLCoombs@aol.com writes: >Joe Lee wrote (Hi Cousin-in-law!) > ><<Mr Wyly, >Do you happen to know where Squaw Creek is? I am aware of the one by >Glen Rose but this one must be somewhere around the Duffau, >Johnsville, >etc. area.Looking fwd to hearing from you...Joe Lee in Evant, Texas>> > >Good Question! My ancestors Ellis Ragsdill, Sr. and his son John >Milligan >Ragsdill** >are shown the 1860 census as living at Squaw Creek, Erath County. As >two of >John's siblings turn up at Glen Rose by 1880, I had thought originally >that >Somervell may have been formed from Erath and it was basically the >same creek. >NOT SO, apparently. Somervell was formed from Hood and Johnson >counties, >neither of which were formed from Erath, so it must have been a >different >squaw creek. > >One thought occurred in doing a GNIS search, however. Erath County is >full of >dams. Any chance that Squaw Creek could have been a tributary of a >larger >creek like Duffau Creek or Green Creek, etc etc that has been lost by >having >been dammed up or its source being dammed up or something like that. >Just a >thought. I know VERY little about hte county and am handicapped by >never >having BEEN there. > >Can Mr. Wyly enlighten us on when these dams were built and on any >lost place >names, etc. resulting from this? > >I'll bet if we looked in land records, Joe, for our respective >ancestors who >lived on Squaw Creek, we might get some latitude and longitude >coordinates >that would tell us where these places were?????? Or were the grants >like >colonial ones, with the boundaries being landmarks like "the hollow >tree" and >"the corner of Jones' place" > >Kathryn Coombs > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    08/12/1998 07:33:45
    1. [ERATH] KEAHEY ANCESTRY
    2. Tommy Dunn
    3. Dear Mrs. Coombs, There is a wonderful 96 years young lady in Nacogdoches that wrote a fabulous book called THE KEAHEY CLANSMEN REVISITED. Her name is Emma Barrett Reeves and at last count, she has written 25 genealogical books. She is a retired school teacher. The KEAHEY book includes GRAHAMS, various spellings of KEAHEY including the Scots pronunication and spelling which began MCKEAHEY, and JACKSONS all the way through the 7th Pres. and completely back to William the Conqueror b. 1066. There is some doubt cast on this line from William by the Medieval Genealogical Society in Europe but nevertheless, you will find ample information in her book. You can request her book through Carolyn Erickson at: http://www.nacogdoches.com/ericksonbooks/ The Ericksons are wonderful and prolific writers of Texana and genealogy. Anyone in Texas really should access their pages and check out their catalog listings. By the way, I did find an Archie in the book, but I need a date or so? Let me know, and I'll look further. Good luck, Joyce Dunn

    08/12/1998 05:10:47
    1. Re: [ERATH] KEAHEY ANCESTRY
    2. Mr Dunn -- Thanks! Sounds like these folks are well documented going BACK to Adam and Eve. I don't have any Keahey ancestry myself, I'm trying to trace FORWARD from Archie, as his descendants have common ancestors with me on their mother's ROBERSON side. Mr. Wyle, that walking goldmine of info (BLESS YOU!!) had mentioned in an e- mail to me that he had known some Keahey's a generation or so back and I was just wanting to put out the word to anyone who might have Keahey ancestry on this list. If y'all are out there, I can give you info on your Robersons back to about 1770 in South Carolina. But would LOVE info on Martha Roberson Keahey's children, grandchildren, etc. Plus, anybody got a picture of Martha? We're collecting photos of all the siblings... Kathryn C

    08/12/1998 05:04:26
    1. [ERATH] Laney
    2. Joe Lee
    3. Hey Kathryn, How have you been? The Tom Laney you mention was no doubt Thomas Redwine Laney, son of John S Laney, Jr & the stepson of Linda's( my wife) ggrandnmother, Diannah Clark Wolfe Laney ( Linda'ggranfather was killed during the Battle of Petersburg,Va --- the mine explosion-Battle of the Crater) & Diannah remarried & moved to Texas with hers ( including Mary Parlee Wolfe), his( including Thomas Redwine Laney) & theirs( John Calvin Laney...Very interesting how the families became intertwined,huh? Looking fwd tio hearing from you...Joe Lee in Evant, Texas

    08/12/1998 04:12:38