Lana- after re-reading your letter and my reply, let me simplify my answer. if your ancestors joined the Goodnight- Loving Trail in the present Erath County, it is reasonable this drive did not originate in the Palo Duro Canyon south of Amarillo. The Texas Almanac shows another East branch of the trail starting west of Fort Worth in the vicinity of the W.T. Waggoner Ranch near Weatherford. If they drove cattle straight west on the presentgeneral route of I-20 and climbed the Ranger hill they were in Erath County in the vicinity of Thurber and may have turned south toward Desdemona (Hogtown) then to Comanche, Brownwood, and San Angelo, intersecting Palo Duro Canyon Branch in the Concho River and Colorado River (Of Texas) near San Angelo, below Colorado City, Texas. Depends on the grass, Indians, and new fences. They could have crossed Erath and continued due west along the present I-20 route to Abilene and then turned south through the Buffalo Gap, then to San Angelo.The Abilene route was more open, except for the Callahan Mesqitue groves. Would be more water and less mesqitue through Comanche and Brownwood The Spanish had named the High Plains the LLano Estacado or the Staked Plains. The Indian guides for Spanish taught them to collect tall Yucca bloom stems and at night by the campfire, peel them They were used to put a bright- almost white stake every so many yards across the High Plains. There were no other landmarks to sight on and avoid going in a circle. Even the wind isn't from a constant direction all day every day, At Camp Val Verde, Waco, they taught us how to break sticks or pile rocks making an arrow point down the trail., Indian style. Flat on the ground, the wind would not move these markers. A combination of Stakes and arrows on the ground would be simple to read and easy to change to decieve an enemy following you. Perhaps your family joined a larger drive of Waggoner or other cattle for the Goodnight- Loving trail. The Waggoner was a favorite of Teddy Roosevelt and one ranch house near Cresson had a room he had stayed in . The Fort Worth Star- Telegram has carried stories on the ranch and some western trails over the years, usually during the Southwestern Exposition and Livestock Show. The season for this fair has also changed over the years. I attended the 1936 Texas State Centenial in both Dallas and Fort Worth with my parents. . For educational trips like that with parents, you were counted present at school- I had a perfect attendance slip that year. By the way, it sounds strange to some that they drove cattle from Colorado to the Palo Duro Canyon area, then later drove them farther south to get back to Colorado up the Pecos and Rio Grande Rivers. No stranger than the Kuykendalls, who were active in Bosque County from 1830-s on, in the 1940's they would buy East Texas cattle as needed to supplement the herd. If Bosque County range got too dry they, in 1950's sometimes loaded cattle in Diesel Truck trailers and took them to Wyoming or other summer pasture in the area, and when winter set in, they would send them to market or bring some back to the fresh winter green grain grazing in Bosque County. Their Kuykendall Land & Cattle, downtown office in Clifton , Texas was open until a few years ago. I no longer see their signs. According to PBS programs, the surplus Black Drovers put out of business when the trail drives ceased, often joined the Buffalo Soldiers and manned the Fort Concho and other Southwestern Forts. Think one was in Yellowhouse Canyon, west of Levelland. The Indians named them in honor of their fear and respect of them . They drew 2/3 of the pay of a White soldier, as did the ones who served in the Civil War. The U.S.Army kept troops segregated until after WW2- usually with some White officers. I was in the first integrated Heavy Tank Batallion in the Korean War. A main street in Fort Hood is named for the 751 Black Tank Batalion , across the street from us at Camp Polk. Most of them in WW2 fought under the French Flag- not their own Stars and Stripes. Some had Czech officers from Central Texas- who had lived near Black farm workers. The Confederacy and the Georgia, Militia, had integrated troops from 1812 to the end of the Civil War and they were given the same pay as white soldiers. One entire company of Black soldiers volunteered to Louisiana Civil War officers, only to be rejected as untrustworthy after a lengthy argument among white officers. They preferred integrated units to encourage each other. The volunteer Free Blacks rode north and joined the Northern Army to get respect. In the war of 1812, Gen. James Rutherford Wyly was second in command of the Georgia Militia unit that sacked and burned Talahassee, Fla. They had 700 White and 400 Cherokee slodiers- the Cherokees were mad at the Seminoles for backing the British against their Anglo cousins. They were paid back by Andrew Jackson with the Trail of Tears when the Anglos found the Georgia Gold Fields. Seems sometimes we are our own worst enemy. Happy Hunting, Charles Wyly On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:04:56 -0700 "lana" <lana@chatlink.com> writes: >My Tuckers left on a cattle drive in 1872 heading for Colorado or >Montana, >I am told they went south, because of the Indians, & took the >Loving-goodnight trail. If they left Erath Co, where does the trail >start. >If it starts in Texas, what counties does it go thru in Texas. I am >told >they were attacked & my Tucker family lost there herd, also there was >a >doctor that was killed, any one know about this story ? Lana > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I am seeking information on the Griffin & Hook families of Erath County,Tx. Louis Griffin was born around 1818 in Alabama & married Liza Thomas in Al. They had the following children; Edmond Griffin -born in Al.& died in Erath County,Tx. Mary(sis) Griffin was born Dec.1,1847 in Al.& died Feb.1,1929 in Stephenville.Tx. Dawell Griffin -no information J.W. Griffin (J.P.)born in 1887-1889-no information O.S. Griffin was born in1851 in Al. & died May 16,1916 in Stephenville,Tx. Notes: Edmond Griffin is buried at Oak Dale Cemetry,Erath Co.,Tx.I have not be able to locate his grave nor some of the other members of my family that are buried in Oak Dale Cemetry.I have been told by several people that they build a road over some of the graves.Does anyone know anything about this? I will be willing to share information on any of these families. Thank You

Do any of you know anything about the YOUNG or PEACOCK or SELF (Tim has helped me quite a bit with Self, but it has not been determined how his family and mine are related) My family goes like this my grandma Goldie SELF HIGH DOB 11/13/1904, DR. Lemeul SELF and Mattie (possibly Martha Jane) YOUNG DOB 2/1884 were her parents, Lemeul SELF DOB 3/1879 parents were Joseph DOB 1851 and Jerusha Self DOB 11/14/1850. He had 2 brothers Hazzel DOB 4/1888 and James DOB 4/1884. I know they lived in Stephenville and Clairette. At some point Hazzel and Lemeul owned a Pharmacy. Martha Young's parents were James Hardy YOUNG DOB 12/3/1849 and Thedocia PEACOCK DOB 4/22/1852. I don't know a whole lot about the PEACOCKs or the YOUNGs. Mattie had 4 siblings, Alice DOB 1878, Ella DOB 3/27/1881, William DOB 1875 , Dow YOUNG DOB 4/1884. They lived in and around Stephenville. Any chance anyone out there has heard of them? I would love to hear back from you. Also Mattie and Lemeul were married 12/8/1901, When I was looking on the GenWeb site under marriages it had a Mattie YOUNG marrying someone else. Do you have any clues for me. If she were married more than once it is a mystery to me. Thanks for any help you can give me. Sincerely, Nancy Trask Thomas

My Tuckers left on a cattle drive in 1872 heading for Colorado or Montana, I am told they went south, because of the Indians, & took the Loving-goodnight trail. If they left Erath Co, where does the trail start. If it starts in Texas, what counties does it go thru in Texas. I am told they were attacked & my Tucker family lost there herd, also there was a doctor that was killed, any one know about this story ? Lana

Hi, Sandy, Some of th Ross family ran a service station in Hico , Texas at the intersection of Hwy 67 and U.S.281, catty cornerred across from the Koffe Kup Kafe for many years. The Koffe Kup Kafe has many old pictures of Early Hico on its walls. Crockett Ross was killed at a Stephenville service station near Tarleton. He was shot by a teenage Robert Bagwell who was robbing the service station Mr. Ross was in charge of. Dan White, Robert's Uncle, was sittting in the get away car outside- 1940's or 50. Robert got life in prison and his Uncle, who had raised him for a time, got the Electric chair. Before he died, he was converted by a Selden pastor doing Jail services. He was baptized in Stephenville First Baptist Church baptistry and Selden Church accepted him as a member based on his profession of faith. He made no more appeals before execution. If you tie to Sull Ross, Texas Ranger officer from Waco who found Cynthia Ann Parker, Quannah Parker's mom in The Wichita Falls area on the White River. he must have been lost at the time, as he said in one report they made a forced ride 6 days north of Albequerque, N.M. in original Republic of Texas on the White River (Wyoming???) The White River near Wichita Falls is not north of Albequerque, New Mexico, but east. Maybe they were north of Albequerque when they started??. Sull Ross later became President of Baylor University and later Texas A&M. University. Several streets and buildings in Waco are named for him or his family. I think the Texas A&M Honor Guard crack drill team is named the Sull Ross Rifles. For Ross history in Waco look in Geneaology Department of Waco- McLennan County (Which once included Erath County land records), McLennan County Courthouse, the Texas Collection of Baylor University (not the main Library- a separate library), the Texas Ranger Hall of fame and library off Hwy 35 at the Brazos, and the Texas A&M Library. Happy hunting Charles Wyly On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:56:19 EDT SANDIBUTC@aol.com writes: >I am researching my Ross family and would like to hear from anyone >else who is >looking for the same family or knowledgeable of the Ross family. My >grandparents Marvin Dow and Hattie Ann Ross lived and died in Dublin, >TX. I >have other information that goes farther back and will share. >Thank you, >Sandy > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, Linda! I was born and reared in Erath County and taught at Venus. We lived on the curve outof Venus on US 67 toward Alvarado. My wife's ancestors in Alvarado and Cleburne included Ash, Clayton, Jack, Gillespie, Riley, and Renfro. I found a name that might be of interest- you are a Conaster descendant. Mrs. Nelda Smith Stone Wilson of 524 West Sypert, Nashville, Arkansas, 71852. She published a Stone family History Book and a Howard County History book. They may have been combined . She sent a photo of a TIM CONASTER and cousin ECTOR WEATHERS, age 17 for both, who (Probably 20 years ago) where Tim was examining a vine coverred headstone in an abandoned cemetery. Nelda says there are many of these in Southwest Arkansas. Some have no names, just a rock headstone, abandoned over 100 years ago when the land owners moved to Texas or farther west. The photo was taken of Tinm Conaster near Antioch, Arkansas. The Bateman Cemetery, containing some Stone, Carey, Copeland and others is now maintained. Engraved headstones had to be shipped down river from S. Louis and up the Red River to the port of Fulton. William Bateman was buried in this area when George Washington was still living- 1797 & his stone is marked. I am seeking Bateman info- some from Mecklenburg County are on the U.S.Census and the Cherokee rolls. After 1884 headstones were brought into Southwest Arkansas by rail. In 1890 some local shops began cutting and engraving headstones. In Texas many were marked in limestone rock with chisels and scratch tools. Some were poured concrete. Happy Hunting, Charles Wyly On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:36:52 -0700 Linda <lsellers@flash.net> writes: >Hi, >My name is Linda Sellers and I live in the Alvarado area of Johnson >Co. Tx. My in-laws were SELLERS from the Bluffdale area of Erath Co. >My husband's ancestors were Samuel Elias Sellers b.1840 in Miss. >and married to Mrs. Emily BALLATINE Conaster b.7-5-1844. >samuel died in 12-2-1930 . Their son Joseph Hiram SELLERS b.6-30-1884 >married Eva Elaine BALDWIN. dau of Samuel BALDWIN and Martha DENNY. > >I'm looking for additional info on the BALDWINS and the DENNYS. >Is Major N.C.BALDWIN connected to this family? If so how? >Are there any SELLERS descendants out there? >Thank you, >Linda > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, My name is Linda Sellers and I live in the Alvarado area of Johnson Co. Tx. My in-laws were SELLERS from the Bluffdale area of Erath Co. My husband's ancestors were Samuel Elias Sellers b.1840 in Miss. and married to Mrs. Emily BALLATINE Conaster b.7-5-1844. samuel died in 12-2-1930 . Their son Joseph Hiram SELLERS b.6-30-1884 married Eva Elaine BALDWIN. dau of Samuel BALDWIN and Martha DENNY. I'm looking for additional info on the BALDWINS and the DENNYS. Is Major N.C.BALDWIN connected to this family? If so how? Are there any SELLERS descendants out there? Thank you, Linda

I am researching my Ross family and would like to hear from anyone else who is looking for the same family or knowledgeable of the Ross family. My grandparents Marvin Dow and Hattie Ann Ross lived and died in Dublin, TX. I have other information that goes farther back and will share. Thank you, Sandy

There are several George's in the Stephenville phone directory. There is a retired teacher (I don't know her husband's name) with the last name of George and then a Roger George that lives 5 or 6 miles north of Stephenville on a farm that belonged to his father. Roger might be in his 60's (not sure) but that would make his father of the generation you were asking about. If I can help, let me know. Good luck, Kathy Tate > I am looking for information in the Andrew George Family m Elvy Peoples > Simmons they are buried in Pilot Knob TX I would like to trace down the > Children of this Family Andrew died in may 17 1914 we have been told > that he killed himself In Erath County I would like to find out the > details of his death if you have any info please let me know. > > Thanks Evelyn Long

Mr. Wyly, Would you happen to have any information on a photography studio called "Thompson" in Dublin,TX? I am hoping to find information for what years they were in business. I have a photo of Angeline Dennis taken at this studio, and I would like to get an idea of the date the photo was taken. I think it was late 1890's. I enjoy your stories of Erath Co. Thanks, Phyl -- Mailto:fvvpjv29@idt.net

The only person I ever heard of with the last name of George is Bob George of Dallas Texas who runs a radio show about sundown on Dallas 660 and Waco 1010 and others called "Classic Christianity" or "People to People". His wife's family were in a Russian Communist Prison and she went through rough times. She has written one book. Apparently he does not meet in Churches, but hotels and public auditoriums. He is interesting. Seems all programs sound very similar. - wait a minute- wasn't there a Phyllis George, a Beauty Queen? Think she was from Texas. Happy Hunting Charles Wyly On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:23:44 -0700 Kyle Long <belle@mwec.com> writes: >I am looking for information in the Andrew George Family m Elvy >Peoples >Simmons they are buried in Pilot Knob TX I would like to trace down >the >Children of this Family Andrew died in may 17 1914 we have been told >that he killed himself In Erath County I would like to find out the >details of his death if you have any info please let me know. > >Thanks Evelyn Long > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I am looking for information in the Andrew George Family m Elvy Peoples Simmons they are buried in Pilot Knob TX I would like to trace down the Children of this Family Andrew died in may 17 1914 we have been told that he killed himself In Erath County I would like to find out the details of his death if you have any info please let me know. Thanks Evelyn Long

I sent some Gillentine records today to Dee- Need to start proofreading- I left out a key word- the ordinance that Rev. Hurley's church considerred as one of the 3 was footwashing. Many Baptist and Methodist Churches- sometimes joint congregations in the same building, had spontaneous footwashings after Baptisms or The Lord's Supper.. These were not taught as doctorine and are practically unheard of today. The Episcopal Church has , on some special occasions, an announced footwashing- whether by everyone or the leaders, I do not know. Two sermons of one hour each and one or 2 of the Ordinances made a long service. Baptism was in the Creeks nearby. This is described in Dr. Tidwell, sSouthwestern Baptist Seminary Ph.D Theses- a History of the family of " Choctaw" Bill Robinson. and the geneaology of the Robinsons. People all over Erath and Comanche Counties are descendants of his. Dr. Tidwekk, of Iredell, Texas was Southern Baptist and his wife was Primitive Baptist of Iredell, Texas. Both Churches claimed Great Great Grandad Rev. & Dr. & Pharmacist & farmer William Pinckney Hatchett. He and Bill Robinson shared the oulpit on special occasions. Dr. Hatchett was a leader in organizing the Central Texas Baptist Convention, including the Paluxy Association. Dr. Hatchett's father in law was Rev. B.T.Stevens buried Hatchett Cemetery, Selden, Texas and active in Chipley, Georgia. His daughters, wives of Dr. hatchett ( of Mexican War, 1845) were Angelina Isabella Stevens and Narcissa Stevens. Both marriages in Georgia.at least one after he came to Texas- think Rev. Stevens had both weddings in Georgia. Happy hunting, Charles Wyly On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:25:45 EDT Nicksgram1@aol.com writes: >I have info on this Gillentine, but can't place him. Both parents >were born >in TX. The Gillentines are mainly in Erath Co. and there are a lot of >Richard >Leak(e) Gillentines, but the dates do not jive with anyone that I >have. Any >help out there??? Thanks, ~~~dee > >1 Richard L. Gillentine b: Abt. 1883 in TX d: Aft. 1910 > +Lurline S. b: TX m: Abt. 1907 > 2 James L. Gillentine b: 1908 in TX > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Dee- Marilyn Mills lists a James L. Gillentine-no John L. Also Martha Lee Gillentine, child and heir of Hohn L. Amanda Anderson, her mother, was his widow. M.J. Gillentine- wife of B.F. Beach M.L. Gillentine W.M. Gillentine S.P. Gillemtine Marietta Hollis, wife of B.L.Hollis-(Parents of Walter Hollis I jnew who ran Separator for Riggs- Hollis Thresher. ????) Walter is buried behind Johnsville Church of Christ. Capt. Nicolas M. Gillentine 13 April, 1819, died 8 Jan. 1865 Frontier Division of Texas State TroopsKilled at the Battle of Dove Creek with son John. Buried there and later Capt. was re-interned at home- (Beach Cemetery?) (Question from Charles Wyly: Who were the Texas State Troops??? Texas Ranmgers??? some of John R. Baylor's Central Texas Rangers who were sometimes Texas Ranger posses under Col. Buck Barry of Barry and Walnurt Springs- sometimes acting on their own agressively against Indians and some captors found hang without a Trial??? Confederate Home Front "National Guard under a Capt. McDuff- reject from Irish and German Armies?) Second in Command Lt. McRae- honest. McDuff & men sent McRae out scouting in Comfort Texas area while he and men killed peaceful Texas Germans, born in Germany & vets of Abortive Revolution who tried to go to Mexico to avoid the Civil War???? Their wives and kids were put in barb wire stockades near New Braunfels, Texas. With a home front guard like McDuff one did not need enemies. ????? Or were these Confederate troops or yankee troops???? The U.S. Post offices never closed in Texas during the Civil War. I have 2 degrees from University of North Texas and earlier work at Tarleton State University in Stephenville. and I am confused as to which one of the above the Texas State Troops were. Hood's Texas Brigade were prominent in the Civil War in the Eastern States. but they were C>S>A> troops. Gillentines in Duffau Cemetery: S.P. 1848-1891 John S. son of above-1890-1891 Anna-1884-1888 Virgil May, Dau. of M.T. and S.J. Gillentines in West End Cemetery, Stephenville Johnnie B. dau. of M.T. and S.J. 11/1893-5/1894 Buried Hightower Cemetery: Nicolas GillentineUncle of one in Beach Cemetery- 1810-1874 & in Hunt County Census 1850 Nickolas- 40-Tenn.- Louisa, 35- Tenn John 14- Tenn. Sasrah Ann- 12- Arkansas Louisa, 35- TennesseeRachael, 10, Arkansas, Mathus or Mathew-6-Arkansas Mandy, 1, Texas Mary- 4- Texas Oma Brumlow-16, Tennesse Buried Bowman Ridge Cem- Erath County George Edwin Gillentine-1878-1909 George ? 1901 Ann ? 1907John Ben Rumph supplied Marilyn Ewere with records and photos of Beaches descended from Gillentines that I knew. Their associates in the 10 years of the Pizarro Post office included Tennessee Ramseys, Hurley. Robinson, (Rev. Bill Robinson from Alabama Plantation & buried Comanche , Texas) Evans, PerryDriskill, Belcher, Eades, Crockett- Allard, Adams, Aycock, Miller, Riggs (Illinois German), Dr. William Pinckney Hatchett of Chipley Ga. , Gonzales Texas 1840-and Bosque and Erath Texas ant Rev. Robinson organized the Pony Creek and other churches. Rev. Hurley would not worship with them because they only had an occasilnal spontaneous like the Methodist did and Episcopal still schedule, but they refused to require it as one of the 3 Bible doctorines of the Primitive Baptist. Crid Hatchett of Chalk Mountain & Tennessee born, was a Church of Christ Elder. His niece, Clara Stigler Atkins told me he was a relative of Dr. Hatchett, my great Great Grandfather. Will quit rambling. Let me know if this adds anything to your records. Take Care, Charles Wyly Some of these records were copied from the files at Washington on the Brazos, where Sam houston led in organizing the Republic of Tesas. and Washington Archives. On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:25:45 EDT Nicksgram1@aol.com writes: >I have info on this Gillentine, but can't place him. Both parents >were born >in TX. The Gillentines are mainly in Erath Co. and there are a lot of >Richard >Leak(e) Gillentines, but the dates do not jive with anyone that I >have. Any >help out there??? Thanks, ~~~dee > >1 Richard L. Gillentine b: Abt. 1883 in TX d: Aft. 1910 > +Lurline S. b: TX m: Abt. 1907 > 2 James L. Gillentine b: 1908 in TX > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I have info on this Gillentine, but can't place him. Both parents were born in TX. The Gillentines are mainly in Erath Co. and there are a lot of Richard Leak(e) Gillentines, but the dates do not jive with anyone that I have. Any help out there??? Thanks, ~~~dee 1 Richard L. Gillentine b: Abt. 1883 in TX d: Aft. 1910 +Lurline S. b: TX m: Abt. 1907 2 James L. Gillentine b: 1908 in TX

John WESLEY BRAMLET b @ 1795 SC d 1888 GilmerCo.GA md @1820 SC Eliz. GRIFFITH b@1806 SC d/o Benj.GRIFFITH and Mary REED Issue: Suannah L. BRAMLETT b 1822 SC d 1901 GA bur. Pleasant Grove Bapt. Cem., Gil. Co. GA md. @ 1838 GAJesseCHARLES b 1818 TN (8 children) Matilda Mary BRAMLETT b abt1826 GA md 1845 Gil. Co. GA James Oliver QUILLIAN (4 child.) Margaret M.BRAMLETTb @ 1829 GA md. (1) 1867 Gilmer Co. GA Joseph SLATE (a widower) (2) 1882 Gilmer Co. GA John CARPENTER Nancy W. BRAMLETT b 1830 GA d 1894 md 1868 Gil. Co. GA Corbin BARNES (5 children) Eliz.H. BRAMLETT b @ 1833 GA md 1868 Gil.Co.GAFranklin DAVIS (a widower) (3 children) John CALHOUN BRAMLETT b 1835 GA d 1918 Erath co. TX md. Nancy Caroline SHARPE issue: Lewis Henry Margaret Eliz. Wm. A. b @ 1956 GAmd(10 Eliz. DALE (2) Mary E.CHARLES Henry C. Sarah L.b@1858 GA never md., lived with her sister Mary Nancy A.b@1862 GA never md., lived with her sister Mary Mary C. BRAMLETT md. ? CLONINGER Stephen Lewis BRAMLETT b @ 1837 GA William Henry BRAMLETT b @ 1839 GA Cicero Taylor BRAMLETT b 1845 GA md @ 1865 Margaret HUNEYCUTT d/o Moses HUNEYCUTT and Lockey WEBB Hines Milton BRAMLETT b@ 1847 GA md. @ 1865 Manerva C. (6 children) Andrew Murphy BRAMLETT b @ 1851 GA I don't know if any of the other children of John Wesley BRAMLETT cameto TX with John Calhoun but if anyone needs a check I do have some additional issue and with names/births I can possible look in this genealogy. A quick scan reveals Mary Adaline"Mollie"BRAMLETT b 1882 GA md. 1899 GA Wm. M. BOWDEN and came to Erath Co. I can provide the BOWDEN children. Her sister Margart C. BRAMLETT md. a DEBOARD (Haven't I seen that surname here?) Mary E. C. CHARLES b 1876 GAd1952 ErathCo.TX md. Wm. A. BRAMLETT(widower who had 8 children by 1st wife and 9 by Mary....... very proliferic man!)......Wm.A. was a son of John Calhoun BRAMLETT. Mary E. C. CHARLES was 1st cousin to Wm. A. (her mother was Suannah L. sister of John Calhoun BRAMLETT). I'm sure there is more info. in my notes which will tie with BRAMLETT researchers in Erath Co. Please let me know who you have and I'll try to help. I am not really a BRAMLETT rsearcher (they are collateral)but I always have data on my collateral lines. It keeps me busy! <G> I can also provide some of the children of John BRAMLETT and Mary PEAKE and John's sibs., then his father's sibs, ect. Just let me know what you all need. A question: Does anyone know why Cicero name was so popular in N. GA ?

Barbara Sharkey (Bramlett researcher) sent me several sheets from Dot Barnum (another researcher) which lists the BRAMLETT line I'm interested in. It includes lots of collateral data and either woman may be of help to anyone researching this line.....contact me for their addresses and also my cousin Jack Mullins'. William BRAMLETT, the immigrant \ Henry BRAMLETT \ Henry BRAMLETT md. Margaret \ John BRAMLETT md. Mary PEAKE lived in Greenville CO., SC, Lauents Co. SC and Fauq. Co. VA \ John Wesley BRAMLETTb 1795 SC md.Eliz. GRIFFITH \ John Calhoun BRAMLETT md. Nancy Caroline SHARPE \ Lewis Henry BRAMLETT md. Susanna Josephine BRYANT \ Wm.Henry BRAMLETT md. Nancy Lula/Loula "Lou" MULLINS Ida MULLINS md (1) WEIDNER md (1)1902 Comanche Co OK Samuel/Simmie Pearson "SIM" MULLINS I have a photo of the Lewis Henry BRAMLETT family and they were a very nice looking group. Bock or Rock HARLING is also in the photo.... .I assume he was related, but how? Nancy "Lou" and "Sim" MULLINS were my grandmother's aunt and uncle. Wm. Henry BRAMLETT b 1873 d 1962 and Lou's issue: Maston Amasy BRAMLETT b 1897 d 1988 (bur. Barbee Cem., Dublin TX) md.Beatrice WYATT Ida Leaucy "Lou" BRAMLETT b 1899 md. Mac POND Piney MaudeBRAMLETTb1902 Bluffdale,TX md.Wm. Wayne BRUNER James DeWitte BRAMLETT b 1907 I can provide some of the grandchildren for Wm.Henry and Lou if anyone requests it. Ida MULLINS md. Sim MULLINS issue: Gladys MULLINS b 1903 Comanche Co. TX md. 1922 Erath Co. Lonnie Day PICKETT Charlie Burl MULLINS b 1907 Comanche Co. TX md. 1925 Childress TX Velma Lucille ALVERSON Selma Ardella MULLINs b 1912 Roger Mills CO. md. Kenneth SCOTT Lillian Josphine MULLINs b 1918 Quay Co. NM md. 1944 CALIF. Henry Marshall DROGERWELLER Sim had been md.before,once to Minnie ? (what happened to her?) second to Nettie STARNADER who died in childbirth is it thought other issue: Olive MULLINS d birth Elmer MULLINS b 1896 Hillsboro TX md 1920 Floydada TX Oma Fay DUNN Ivy Pearl MULLINS b 1898 NM md Walter WARD Bernice may have died with mother in childbirth, but a Bernice BRAMLETT was listed with Sim's parents on one census, and may have been this child again I can provide some of Sim's grandchildren in anyone has an interest.

Kay, First I'll post info. as I have received it and then post some "conflicting" data. If anyone else researches BRUMBELOW/BRUMBELOW/BRUMBELO/BRUMBLO there is an excellent book "Brumbelow: Linear Expansion" by Jerry Lee Brumbelo, 1982. I was able to view this book several years back and KNOW I have some notes from it but those seem to have disappeared into my files. No problem though as I sent copies of what I found to my cousin, Lisa PAGE (a direct descendant). Melinda "Linda" MULLINs also descends from this line and is found online. Lewis BRUMBELOW / Nichodemus KEITH md. Eliz. BRUMBELOW b @ 1820's Robertson Co. TN d 14 Jan. 1895 TX / Abijah B. KEITH b 1842 TX md. Mary Ellen UZZELL / Leucey Ann KEITH b 1878 Erath Co. TX md. 1893 Erath Co. TX Chana B. MULLINS Chana was my grandmother's uncle. He left TX for Kay Co., Roger Mills, OKLA then to Qualla, NM I have a copy of Chana and Leucy with 4 of their children and the youngest is like looking at my sister as a child. Incredible what genetic can do with looks. This girl is our 2nd cousin once removed and still family looks are startling. Now, the Brumbelow book I mentioned states that the line of Lewis BRUMBELOW was well researched by Mr. Michael COOK, Certified Genealogist , of 3318 Wimbert Ave., Evansville, IN He has placed her as marring 45 Aug. 1841 Stephen D.DORRIS.(According to Wm. POE of Tuscon, AR sh remarried Nicodemus KEITH). The book then lists the children as follows: Abijah DORRIS 23 Jul 1842 TX Stephen " " 19 Feb 1844 TX John Bunyon " 3 Jan 1846 TX Rebecca Jane " 16 Sept 1848 TX Louisa " 23 Jun 1850 Wm. Bundy " I wrote Lisa about this finding and my suggestion was to find Nicodemus KEITH and Eliz. BRUMBELOW's marraige certificate to determine if these children were in fact DORRIS or KEITH children and compare with census records. Regardless......we know that Abijah used KEITH as his surname in later years. Abijah B. KEITH is listed as Elijah on some records in err. b23 Jul 1840/42 (FHC) d 10 Jan 1930 NM md.23 May 1869 Hunt Co. TX Mary Ellen UZZELL b 1840 ILL census: 1850 HuntTX 1860 HuntTX 1870 ErathTX 1880 ErathTX 1900 KayOK 1920 Quay NM KEITH Children: Lurah Eliz.b 1870 Erath Co. md. 1997 Erath James H. "Jim" SAGESTER John Bunyan b 1872 TX md. 1893 Erath Kate ROBINSON James Monroe b 1876 Erath md. ? (Single in 1920) Leucy/Leucey/Leacy/Leaucy b 1878 Erath md. Chana B. MULLINS CoraLenoreb 1882 Erath d bef. 1900 Talbert Dalton b 1888 Erath TX md. Emmalline Sams CRANE Talbert Dalton submitted lots to the FHC of the LDS.....so this data can be found with full dates there if interested. Talbertdiedin 1968 but his widow and a half brother were still living in 1994 and could be contacted for info. Let me know if you'd like any addresses for Lisa Page, Melinda Mullins, Emmaline KEITH or Lee Roy KEITH. Children of Chana B. MULLINS and Leucy KEITH Eva M. MULLINs b 1894 TX Thelma G. MULLINS b 1897 TX md. frank PAGE Thelma moved to Wash. CO.ARK,dying there John Tolbert MULLINS b @ 1901 md. 1920 NM Eliz. NICHOLS Willie B. "Bill" MULLINS b 1903 Dewey CoOKmd1920NM Rosetta JENNINGS Chana Burrel "Bugger" MULLINS b 1906 OK md 1928 Lavita Doris TINNEY Ollie MULLIN Sb abt 1907 OK md. 1937 NM Lucille MOON Lanore "Nora" L. MULLINS b abt 1911 OK Bernice L. b abt 1914 NM good luck and if anyone can add/connect to this please post back to me. DEBBIE.....sylb26a@prodigy.com

Joy, I don't think we have any connections, but please check your Johnson's and see if you can connect to any of these! George W. Johnson b. 1833 Tenn d. 1891 Clairette, Erath Co Tx m. Alwilda Stipes 5 children William Johnson b 1863 MO Leonidas Kyle Johnson b 1866 MO d. 1955 Clairette, Erath Co TX m. Erie Herps 6 children, all born Walnut Springs, Bosque co TX: Ollie Johnson b 1892 m Herbert Tidwell Will Johnson b 1893 Jessie Myrtle Johnson b 1896 d. 1995 Clairette TX m Homer P Lee Ruby G Johnson b 1898 m Herman Robertson Wilda Johnson b 1901 m Cleo Mayfield Lon Johnson b 1904 Frank Johnson b 1869 MO Roy Johnson b 1874 TX James Johnson b 1877 TX THANKS! Donna At 02:25 PM 8/21/98 -0000, you wrote: >Donna, > >Would your Johnson's be connected to: >1) Lewis A. Johnson b: NC marr; Sophronia (?) Unknown >2) George Hampton Johnson b: 1851 TX marr: Cassandra Susan Hilley b: 1858 GA >d: TX. >They are both buried in Cosby Co. TX. I am working on the Hilley line. Thank >you, >Joy

I was wondering if the Erath County Genealogical Society had any books that I might be able to purchase? Thank you, JoAnn