I have not seen an inquiry in a week. There were 2 t0 10 a day fro a few months. Are you still there? Am I still on your mailing list? Where did everyone go? Take care, Charles A. Wyly

Charles F. Stahley (Starley) was born 1836-1844 in Bern, Switzerland. He met Mary Ann ( Moses Ann) Evans Thompson somewhere in LA, AL, or TX. Mary Ann had been married to a MR. THOMPSON (perhaps W. H. or G. O.) and had a child William Alonzo Thompson. Mary Ann's family had moved from AL to West Carroll Parish, LA. to LEON Co TX. Somewhere along the way Charles met and married Mary Ann around 1870. They made their way to Erath Co Tx and purchased property on the Little Duffau River. I have heard that Charles built some of the stone buildings in Hico. He was a stone mason, cattle raiser etc. In about 1855 Charles disappeared from home. There are several stories told of his disappearance. One states that he had found a large amount of money around Austin where he was tearing down an old building to rebuild another. And that when he went back to Erath with the money some men followed him to his home. He left with them and never returned. Later a skeleton was found hanging in a canyon and there was speculation that it was Charles. Have any of you historians heard of this man or a similar story? Dawn Roberts

Emmet A. FRENCH married Freddie Ellen STARLEY Sep 1, 1922. They had one child Billie Starley FRENCH. Billie French was born Aug 16, 1924. Emmet A. just disappeared from the scene. Any information on Emmet appreciated. Where was he born? Who were his parents? Dawn

W. S. HUBBARD married Minnie STARLEY July 12, 1898 Erath Co TX. Did they stay in Erath or move to another TX town? Any information appreciated. Dawn Roberts

J. S. JOHNSON married Mary Luly STARLEY Jan 1, 1890 Erath Co TX. Where did they live after being married? Any known children? Mary Lulu's mother and sisters and brothers lived in Erath near Hico. Any information appreciated. Dawn Roberts

J. M. HENDERSON married Emma Jane (Sallie) STARLEY. They had the following children: Darrell, Hall, Otto. J. M. and Sallie moved at some point in time to Abilene, Texas. Any information appreciated. Dawn

To Mr. Wyly and all our other subscribers-- We are answering the "Where are you" question on a list by list basis as it occurs. Two weeks ago, the RootsWeb Server crashed. We lost some e-mail from our 9 listservs and there seems also to have been some random unsubbing of listmembers. If you don't receive any mail in a while--especially from a wonderfully active list like Erath--do post and see if the message comes back to you normally--as any message would come to a listmember. If that happens, the list is working and you may have other problems. But if you get error messages or do not receive a copy of your posting, please don't hesitate to write to us to find out what is going on. We had no way of alerting all the members to this problem (we have over 1000 on all of our listservs). We hope everyone is getting all their list messages now. Please begin posting your ancestry (read Roll Call here). And Mr. Wyly, keep up the good work. I wish you belonged to every list we have! Barbara seawolf@selfroots.com http://www.selfroots.com

I've been wondering the same thing. Everyone must be on vacation. Judi Wadlington Clark

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_907825406_boundary Content-ID: <0_907825406@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is awesome! Sorry if it offends anyone, but it is so representative of the Civil War! Shirley --part0_907825406_boundary Content-ID: <0_907825406@inet_out.mail.hub.ofthe.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <TNROANE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from relay29.mx.aol.com (relay29.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.29]) by air08.mail.aol.com (v50.16) with SMTP; Thu, 08 Oct 1998 00:52:11 -0400 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by relay29.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA22387; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA20442; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <361C554D.8E4@hub.ofthe.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 00:01:47 -0600 From: Doris Haynes <dhaynes@hub.ofthe.net> Reply-To: dhaynes@hub.ofthe.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Old-To: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com, RAN-CLAY-L@rootsweb.com Old-CC: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com, HAYNES-L@rootsweb.com, TXELLIS-L@rootsweb.com, TXNAVARR-L@rootsweb.com, TXHENDER-@rootsweb.com, "GATROUP-L@rootsweb.comMSTISHOM-L"@rootsweb.com, ALFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNROANE-L] Immortal Six-Hundred Resent-Message-ID: <"fz8L4.A.e-E.CTEH2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/454 X-Loop: TNROANE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TNROANE-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 20 August 1864, a chosen group of 600 Confederate Officers left Ft. Delaware, as prisoners of war, bound for the Union Army base at Hilton Head, SC. Their purpose - to be placed in a stockade in front of Union batteries at the siege of Charleston. The 600 were landed on Morris Island, at the mouth of Charleston Harbor. Here they remained in an open 1 1/2 acre pen, under the shelling of friendly artillery fire. Three died on the starvation rations issued as a retaliation for the conditions of Union prisoners at Andersonville, GA and Salisbury, NC. On 21 October, after 45 days under fire, the weakened survivors were removed to Ft. Pulaski, GA. Here they were crowded into the cold, damp casemates of the fort. On 19 November, 197 of the men were sent back to Hilton Head to relieve the overcrowding. A "retaliation ration" of 10 ounces of moldy cornmeal and soured onion pickles was the only food given for 42 days. Thirteen men died at Ft. Pulaski and five at Hilton Head. The remaining members of the Immortal Six Hundred were returned at Ft. Delaware on 12 March 1865, where an additional 25 died. They became famous throughout the South for their adherence to principle, refusing to take the Oath of Allegiance under such adverse circumstances. We, the descendants of these men have been working five years to lobby Congress for permission to have a memorial marker placed at the cemetery at Ft. Pulaski for these brave men. Finally, this week, we have gotten the word that the work can go forward. The Park Service has given permission to have an intreperative marker with a freestanding plaque identifying the 600, plus the 13 who died there. Until now, it was believed by the Park Service that no cemetery existed, or that the bodies had been removed long ago...now thanks to some very dedicated Park Service archeologists, the cemetery has been located and some of the graves. Two books have been written about this group and if anyone had ancestors who were Officers in the CSA held at Ft. Delaware, I am happy to do look-ups for you. Also, if you are interested in making (Tax Deductible) donations to this cause, please get in contact with me. The project is expected to take $10,000 and we have $3,200 in the fund at present. My husband's grandfather, First Lt. John Lumpkin Haynes of the 14th Ala. Inf. from Lineville, Ala. was a survivor of this group and lived to be 84 years old, although he had a chronic lung condition from this ordeal. Thank you for your interest in reading this. Doris ==== TNROANE Mailing List ==== Pat Roberts McDonald has changed her URL for Roane County Roots to www.roanetn.com. You Roane County researchers....please change your bookmarks. --part0_907825406_boundary--

Wonderful news!! I have found my complete HILLEY line clear back to VA. I do Thank everyone that helped me gather info. I would be happy to share info. Thanks, Joy Goade Zowie joyz@bcni.net

Hi, the Pecan bayou kept bugging me, so I resorted to looking to the Texas Almanac, published by Dallas Morning News. It States the Pecan Bayou is the farthest west Bayou in the U.S. It begins in Calllahan County from springs AND RUNS 107 MILES THROUGH bROWNWOOD TO THE cOLORADO rIVER NEAR THE JUNCTION OF THE cOLORADO AND cONCHO RIVERS. They all 3 have spring sources and run freely year around. I think Lake Brownwood may be on Pecan Bayou. The Cpolorado and Concho are famous above this for fresh water pearls. The lost San Saba mines are southeast of there. The Colorado is the largest river with Total watershed in Texas- the Brazos goes into New Mexico at Levelland and possibly Canyon. See pages 305-310-315 in the Almanac. I have crossed it many times on Hwy 36 and others south of it. Check Frontier postmasters for a community on it. I have a copy of Homer Stephens book on Frontier Postmasters published in Stephenville. Will check it this weekend- need to rest now. Substituted at Waco High most of this week and have some P.E. classes- have also had math and English classes there this week. I can teach anything but Spanish, French, German, and sign language. Happy hunting and take care- the area of Pecan Bayou is one center of Grandaddy Rattlesnakes who have lost some natural control predators. At Sweetwater, some Animal Rights misinformed people with more money than experience in West Texas Ranch life protest rattlesnake hunts. They don't care how many Anglo, Black, and Mexican farm hands are killed harvesting cotton and other crops, but they are perfectly willing to eat their produce at McDonald's- sorry, pardon my soapbox. Take care. Charles Augustine Wyly On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:24:24 -0500 jmoor@swbell.net writes: >Mr. Wylie: > >Have you ever heard of a PLACE called Pecan Bayou as opposed to a body >of water? My ggrandfather is supposedly buried there but no one seems >to know where it might have been back in 1869. > >Thanks, > >Jan > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Looking for Walkers and Coundrey/Condreys in Erath Co., Tx.: Francis D. Walker (1801-1888) came from Jackson Co., Tn. to Mo., to Texas. He settled in Grayson and Cooke Co., Tx. He md. twice and had 14 children by two wives. M/1.Mary Jane Coundry/Condrey? and M/2. Martha (Runnels) Kirkendall, a Civil War widow. His 14 children were: Francis Marion, Rachel, Jesse J., Mary Jane, Sarah A., Minerva E., John Smith Barlow, Andrew Jackson, Tennessee Winnifred, Frances Virginia, Jasper N., Henry Perry, Missouri, and Rosa Walker. (The first 8 were by Mary Jane.) Some of his children settled in Erath Co., Tx. and probably still have descendants there. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? Thanks Dorothy dottur@ptsi.net

I have now found my HILLEY link!! If anyone is working on your HILLEY surname, please feel free to get in contact with me. Joy Goade Zowie joyz@bcni.net

Mr. Wyly, Thanks for the info. abt. culturally deprived.........I found it amusing abt. the singing and dancing. My grandmother told me that as a child (born and lived in Erath Co.) her parents were very religious and did not approve of dancing or singing other than for church. She said that dinner was generally sober and you used GOOD MANNERs or else! One day her father called the younuns to the table and one or more brother was late getting in........a young brother (always clowning and in trouble) sang out "You better hurry or you'll be in trouble." and WHAMM before anyone knew what happened her father had backhanded the boy without a word off his chair and onto the floor. She said they all knew better than to sing at the table so nothing further was said and it was the LAST time that young brother misbehaved at the table. Thinking of today's children (my own included) and watching them kid and clown with each other strikes me as ironic in comparison. I'm not sure if my MULLINS family was Baptist or other religion. Wm. Andrew Jackson HODO was a Methodist minister over in Coryelle Co. TX who was a great uncle to my grandma and he often visited them by horse and remained for awhile. His visits started a family joke which remained unknown as to origins until I began genealogy. My grandmother would often joke when a neighbor or anyone stopped at the house unexpected with the saying "Put on the coffee, here comes Mr. Hodo." Well, mom and her sisters use to say this to each other as they walked into the door of each other's homes. ..and they never knew what it meant exactly. Well, I began genealogy and found my grandmother's grandmother was Nancy Ardella HODO ADKISSON which when telling my mom I heard "OH, no that is a made up name"(Referring to HODO)......and then she reminded me about the family saying. My aunts and uncles seconded it saying "it couldn't be real". I had to pull out a death certificate to convince them it was REAL. Grandmother was still living then and I asked her about the saying and then told her my findings and she said "WELL, yes I think that was grandmother's name and Mr. Hodo who visited was related to us. That's where I got the saying from was his visits." What a good joke on my mom and aunts! DEBBIE

Hi, Dene--and anyone else who wondered the same thing-- RootsWeb had a Server crash last weekend. The mail has just been trickling in during the last two days. Hopefully none was lost--the people at RootsWeb took great care in seeing that there was as little inconvenience as possible. We apologize on their behalf, but they did a great a major job getting us up and running again! Barbara Co-Listowner, TXERATH seawolf@selfroots.com http://www.selfroots.com -----Original Message----- From: TEX WEATHERSBEE <dweather@gte.net> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 8:48 AM Subject: [ERATH] not receiving postings >I have not received any posting from Erath County in over a week. The >last one was Vol. 98 Issue #75. Any idea why not? >Thanks, Dene Weathersbee e-mail dweather@gte.net >

I have not received any posting from Erath County in over a week. The last one was Vol. 98 Issue #75. Any idea why not? Thanks, Dene Weathersbee e-mail dweather@gte.net

--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@rootsweb.com> To: <wyly1@juno.com> Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:03:02 -0700 Message-ID: <199809151003.CJZ32479@bl-4.rootsweb.com> This is a MIME-encapsulated message --CJZ32479.905853782/bl-4.rootsweb.com The original message was received at Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:29:28 -0700 from r1.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.71] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- TXERATH-L@lists.rootsweb.com (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 TXERATH-L@lists.rootsweb.com... Remote protocol error ----- Original message follows ----- --CJZ32479.905853782/bl-4.rootsweb.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: wyly1@juno.com Received: from r1.boston.juno.com (r1.boston.juno.com [207.205.100.71]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA03627 for <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com>; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:29:28 -0700 Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by r1.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.6.Beta0/2.0.kim) with ESMTP id SAAAA13344 for <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com>; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from wyly1@juno.com) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DNYUEY3M; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:35:43 EDT To: doncage@flash.net Cc: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:05:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [ERATH] LEE, SALMON, JOHNSON Message-ID: <19980912.174630.3246.9.Wyly1@juno.com> References: <199808121647.LAA13691@endeavor.flash.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8,17-18,20-24,27,29-43 From: wyly1@juno.com (charles a Wyly) I attended school with Grace? and Ruth Meadors in old location of Johnsville school. Her dad Grady lived on land joining the schoo., about a mile away. His brother and he ran a Meadors Ranch west of Lone Mountain from U.S. 67 & north toward Pony Creek and Mitchell Creek. The brother (Bonn, i think) who lived north of the highway usually donated a calf which he and Lee Rice, an black farming neighbor, would dress. Mr. Rice would start cooking it in a washpot around midnight and we all ateit for thanksgiving, school closings, ands such. We used to joke that some folk were so culturally deprived that they had never attended a Goat Roping, a grave digging, a school closing, a watermellon cutting, a Swing Game party (Ring Games -everyone sang the square dance type routines-) no instrumental musdic was used in Johnsville or Selden, or most of Erath County- that would have been dancing. They did that in Mingus, Glen Rose, & Chalk Mountain, but not at school buildings. We also had a summer 2 weeks Revival, or a 4th of July creek seining after it quit running. Usually Green's Creek& Hurley friends and other old timers.) Church of Christ, Baptist and Methodist of Erath County areas agreed- no dancing. The Meadors Ranch is now run by Rev. Woodson Armes, a retired pastor and State Baptist leader. Best Wishes, Charles Wyly Selden even used to turn greased pigs and Guineas loose at community picnics with $5.00 or $10.00 tied to them. In late 1930's some chased a Guinea 2 or 3 miles trying to get the money. On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:47:52 -0500 (CDT) Don Cage <doncage@flash.net> writes: >Thanks for the interesting info on the Johnsons, Mr. Wyly. Even >though I >don't connect to any of them, I enjoyed reading about them! You >mentioned a >Meador. I have Meador connections through my mother. Anything about >Meadors? > >Thanks, >Donna cage > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --CJZ32479.905853782/bl-4.rootsweb.com-- --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

School started 3 weeks ago and they called me to substitute all but the first day. We have a terriffic teacher shortage in McClennan County and Waco and that was like an old horse which pulled fire wagon pumpers hearing the fire hall bell go off. Keep telling myself I retired in 1989, but subbing keeps the intellect stimulated. The only thing I remember about the Fort Worth Cats and the Texas League starts with Dixie Stasey I attended high school with. Her brother Bobbie Joe used to pitch for the Roswell team against Fort Worth. & others. he returned to Chalk Mountain to livestock & crop farming and played on Johnsville team in the Bosque Valley League on Sunday afternoons. Teams were from Hico, Iredell, Johnsville, Dublin, White Settlement (Fort Worth) and Grandbury or Tolar. Bob Ford of Johnsville pitched 7 innings no hit , age near 50 against these players who took the game seriously. Walnut Springs had a field and team in connection with theRailroad. Whgen Ben Franklin Wyly came from the Wyly Atlanta, Ga. Wholesale Grocery, Ben F. Jr. had 9 sons and a daughter. The boys formed a baseball team,, with Janice Wyly Slaughter (Roswell) as bat girl. They challenged all comers- college, Railroad, high school, or whoever and beat most of them. Ben Sr. is buried at Comanche and he or his son B.F. (Barefoot) Wyly ran the Galveston Compress with the name Barefoot Wyly readable from ships in the Houston ship channel. The Fort Worth Cats stadium was north of the Trinity River across from the Tarrant County Courthouse. It was flood plain before the levees were built. Across North Main was the original Tripple A or Tripple X Root Beer stand with a water tank size root beer barrell on the top. i don't know all the Texas League teams, but Roswell, Lubbock, Fort Worth, & seems Abilene and possibly Tyler was in it. The stadium was still used in 1950 when I started working at Convair, but not sure when the League disbanded- seems before that. Take care. Charles Wyly On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:21:40 -0600 Sue Skinner <rowdy@yucca.net> writes: >charles a Wyly wrote: .... <snip . ..... > >Bobby Joe had played in the old Texas League for Roswell against the >Fort Worth Cats. > >....<snip> ... > >Dear Charles A. Wyly, > >Would love to hear what you can relate about the old Texas League .. >My >Dad grew up near Morgan Mill. After he married Ottis Blackwell from >Lipan, Hood County, they lived at Tolar and he was a ball player in >the >early 1900's. At least one year Mom ran a boarding house for the team >members. Dad was Irving Mack Patterson. His "Uncle Dave", David >Patterson was an Erath County Commissioner in the early 1900's. >Grandmother, Trecy Louella Hightower Patterson and two sons are buried >at Hightower Cemetery between Morgan Mill and Lipan. There is also a >Patterson Plot there where many of the other Patterson Clan are >buried. > >Many thanks .. I love reading your posts .. even when I don't know the >people! >Sue Patterson Skinner >

In a message dated 9/10/98 12:16:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maynard@hti.net writes: << Greetings All - If I send in $7 for a record of the Social Security Card my ancestor filled out, exactly what information will be on the record? Regards, Ann Works Maynard 3814 Lake St. Houston, TX 77098 phone: 713/528-0682 e-mail: maynard@hti.net --- >> Name, address at time of application , age, date of Birth, place of birth, parents & employer, signature of applicant, date application filed Anne Worthington White

Greetings All - If I send in $7 for a record of the Social Security Card my ancestor filled out, exactly what information will be on the record? Regards, Ann Works Maynard 3814 Lake St. Houston, TX 77098 phone: 713/528-0682 e-mail: maynard@hti.net