My great aunt was Jane McAdams. Jane was married twice, first time to Mr. Parks and the second time to Thomas McAdams. I know that Jane and Thomas were buried in Earth county. Would like to know something more of their children and grandchildren. I believe that their daughter Celia married A. E. Lanford, a doctor in Stephenville around 1900. Would like to know more of what happened to them. Jane was my great-great grandfather, John Jefferson Poston's sister.

If you have an update of the cemetery records for (?) cemetery in Stephenville will you please send me the birthdate for: Samuel Robert Harper died February 13, 1971. according to the state death records. May be Bob Harper. Thanks Jean jks915@aol.com

Will do some more checking on this. Somewhere in my bookshelves or plastic milk carton files I have a publication of Thurber Historical Society of Stephenville. It has a photo of a young John L. Lewis at a table with negotiators. He was at his first Coal strike and it killed the town and closed the shaft mines and brick plant. The railroad grades and cone shaped slag or tailings piles 2 to 3 times as tall as the trees by each mine shaft, still open, are silent testimonies of labor not recognizing changing technology.and the oil fields promising more jobs . Now we have not our oil jobs and the Ponca City Okla. refinery and others to the Middle east and capped high producing wells at home which cannot be reopened- a new one must be drilled at a much higher cost. It makes sense to international business politicians, I guess. These tailing piles are visible from I-20- no grass or trees grow on them. One of my friends (I was not there) said he was climbing a tailings pile and his class ring fell off and rolled and bounced into one of the open shafts. 1900 wiring and coal cars are still in the mines as reported by uranium searchers. Tools are down there. One body with no ID was found in one shaft. Hey, his name couldn't have changed to the Geriks of West and Cameron, Texas, could it? Some of the Czechs and Slovaks in West had roots in Thurber and Newcastle and one Oklahoma mining town This explains the town of Yukon near OKC which Czech festivals. One OK town serves Czech pastries daily as West does. Check you later, Charles Wyly On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:56:11 -0600 "Frances M. Farley" <farleys@wf.net> writes: >Mr Wyly, > >I was told that my grandfather, Jacob Galik, helped with the >negotiations for the 1903 coal strike. Do you know were I could get >information on the strike? I believe the newspaper listed Grandpa as >Jack Garlick. > >Thank you.. >Frances Farley > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, Iunderstand the library contains every payroll record, every ton of coal mined and which shaft and who worked & which day. I think it is maintained by TP Coal and Oil for future use. The Fort Worth Sportsmen's club and ranch is near thew present New York Hill. The library is across the valley which used to be the town site and a mountain which has been hauled away as brick. South of the New York Hill restaurant, now open, is an open pit which Chapparal Steel of Midlothian used for a time to make rebar rods out of wrecked cars. I was told this is near Pea Ridge, west of Huckaby and north of Lingleville. Acme brick historians in Weatherford might have suggestions about access to the library. It would be a major Geneaological and historical source, but might take years to process onto computer I was told there was no public access. Articles have been printed in Stephenville and Dublin papers and calendars over the years and by the Thurber Historical Society. At one time TP Coal and Oil was owned by TP Railroad and/or Seagram's Whiskey- or the Kennedy Interests. Taxes are paid in Stephenville. , but you know how Corporations split then consolidate for tax and other purposes. Grandad Carey and his Stone & Copeland Arkansas cousins lived in Huckaby, Pea Ridge & Lingleville Texas after leaving Arkansas. One Carey laid on the Pea Ridge, Arkansas civil War battlefield 3 days among corpses when someone saw him move. He recoverred and kept books for his daughter's store. He claimed he never drank nor used God's name in vain. Wonder where Pea Ridge, Texas got its name?? Take care Charles Wyly On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:02:28 -0800 (PST) p Day <mygenealogy@Yahoo.com> writes: > >Charles Wyly wrote: > >There is a library kept clean and dry and climate >controlled on Johnson >Ranch in old Thurber limits containing everyone >who lived there and what >they did and were paid and family and country of >origin. I understand it >is closed to the Public. > >Is it open to anyone for research. Are there people that do lookups? >Or is it just kept clean, dry and climate controlled for???? > >Thank you for the information Mr. Wyly. As always, appreciated. > >Pat > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Mr Wyly, I was told that my grandfather, Jacob Galik, helped with the negotiations for the 1903 coal strike. Do you know were I could get information on the strike? I believe the newspaper listed Grandpa as Jack Garlick. Thank you.. Frances Farley

Charles Wyly wrote: There is a library kept clean and dry and climate controlled on Johnson Ranch in old Thurber limits containing everyone who lived there and what they did and were paid and family and country of origin. I understand it is closed to the Public. Is it open to anyone for research. Are there people that do lookups? Or is it just kept clean, dry and climate controlled for???? Thank you for the information Mr. Wyly. As always, appreciated. Pat _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, i have not . seen such a Thurber list. i guess you know the company owned town had in excess of 10,000 and there were camps of contractors, peddlers, and com men which some say brought the population to 30,000, counting the Bartenders in Mingus, Palo Pinto County, joining Thurber on the north. They had a bar , horseshoe shaped, larger than any between Fort Worth and El Paso. Newcastle mines were northeast 40 miles at Fort Graham- Newcastle area. Many there were Czech & some settled in West, Texas with Czech new immigrants. On Labor day they have a Westfest with State fair quality Ethnic bands and food and arts & Crafts, all Czech, Norwegian, German, Mexican Spanish Tejano, and I think others have been added, maybe Asian Indian. Thurber workers were recruited from other US mining towns and all over Europe, all short- less than 5'4 if possible, for miners, as the hard coal TP Coal and Oil mined was in many thin levels. TP railroad imported them for TP coal to fire locomotives California bound. A tall man would have to kneel. Small mules pulled coal cars in the mines to the elevators. Acme Brick plant there hired men any size. many Texas cities including Fort Worth and Waco had streets paved with Thurber brick, coal fired. Many are still visible. Many Thurber photos are in Bank historic calendars and Tarleton and Stephenville libraries. Marilyn Giesekie Mills Ewers left a large folder of information in Stephenville library that she did not include in the history of the Three Way School District. There is a library kept clean and dry and climate controlled on Johnson Ranch in old Thurber limits containing everyone who lived thereand what they did and were paid and family and country of origin. I understand it is closed to the Public. Erath and Palo Pinto county census should list many Thurber folk. Of course in the 10 years between census, hundreds could have come and gone. Newcastle mines records should be in Jack County or Graham, Texas. or at least in old newspapers and books there. The Acme Brick plant moved down the tracks across the Brazos to Weatherford, Parker County. Another less known TP service town was Clyde, Texas, at the top of the Baird, Callahan County Hill In the deep sand and shallow water there At the botom of the hill in Badlands country, Baird gets its water from the Baird Lake. TP brought Czech and Portugese truck farmers- vineyard, fruit and vegetable specialists to raise fruit nd vewgetables for California bound Pullman cars. a high school boy named Howard Johnson skipped a class at Baird High to sell sandwiches to passenger trains, before he started his restaurant chain I think it was Conrad Hilton who bought his first hotel in Cisco, Texas on borrowed money during the oil boom. They rented beds in the halls for 8 hours of sleep to drilling crew members. When the Acme Brick Smokestack memorial off I-20 was dedicated, there was enough coal left to run Fort Worth 600 years, so now we get our lignite from East Texas for one electric plant and Wyoming coal from open pits- 100 to 200 cars a day go to San Antonio area for a Generating plant which was to be neuclear, but changed to coal by voters during construction. At one time before John L. Lewis and oil killed Thurber, they fenced the town and called out the Texas Rangers. Must have been wild, because in Oil Field boom towns, the slogan was one town or riot- one Ranger. Take care, Charles Wyly ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Mr Wyly...you are a national treasure for Erath County. I am far younger than you and forget what I had for breakfast sometimes. You are amazing and we should all ask you to send us a copy of your diet...obviously you have taken good care of yourself to have the terrific memory of the smallest tidbits and we are all greatful you share them with us. You mentioned the immigrants that came to work in the coal mine in Thurber, Tx. Is there a list of these immigrants or any specific place to start looking, as I believe my gr. grandfather was one of these workers. I know he was a coal miner (at least family history says so) and was in Thurber. He is the William Pollman I have been searching for. Keep up the great work. I hope you have written all you memories down....what a great book it would make. Pat _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, Guess you know about the Stephenville Bankers- Cage and Crow? Upstairs over their basnk was an Italian Cage and Crow Opra House for the immigrants who mined coal in Erath County in a town much larger than Stephenville- it was Thurber , Texas. Chalk Mountain town had 2 or more blocks of stores and a post office. As people moved on, Chalk Mountain, Plainview school & Church, Oden Chapel, and Marable schools were in Chalk Mountain. Now they all go to Three Way Schools on one elementary school bus and to Hico High on another Hico bus. Jackson's Convenience Store is at the intersection of U.S. 67 from Stephenville and a State Hiway from Hico, then U.S. 67 goes on to Glen Rose. The gravel Flat Top Ranch Road goes to Walnut Springs. North on gravel goes toward Rough Creek Ranch (now an Executive training center- motel style- a retreat) and the Paluxy River bottom. This is visible on any Texas hwy map and some National maps. The only Taylor i find in Marilyn mills Ewers's book (previously posted) is Frances Skipper, wife of Wylie Taylor who resided in Moody, Texas when this book was printed (History of Texas- about 1900, published in Chicago) . Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. & pharmacist & land speculator of Gonzales, Valley Mills, and Erath County is in the same book. J.H.F. Skipper born Maury County, Tennessee 1847 , lived in 3 Texas counties and settled and became postmaster of Skipper's Gap, Texas he was self educated and held various offices. His son John was a retired Military officer when I was young. They had He had 10 kids. One of his granddaughters told me recently at a reunion that she and her mother and siblings loved to pick cotton for my dad, because he laughed and wouldn't whip us for jumping on the cotton sacks when we were little. Some cotton farmers thought it would crush and stain the cotton and cheapen the price and grade. Dad didn't pick his that green. We could see Skipper's Gap from our house,Maratheal's Gap was a mile or so farther into the mountains The 36 th Infantry and 49 th Armored Texas Natoinal Guard, WW2,drove their trucks by our place & through Skipper's Gap to Florida to Africa and Italy. We now know Gen. Patton's family spent a few million on buying new and used GMC parts from wrecking yards on U.S.67 because he knew normal ordinance couldn't find them once battles started and didn't have enough reserve stock. He trained some mechanics to strip parts fast and change motors in the dark during combat. If you want to trace this Taylor, the Waco- McLennan County is on line, but I visit it in person as time allows. Moody is in McLennan County. My kids grew up with a Kenny Taylor's kids in Milford and Bynum, Hill County, Texas, home of Hill College Col. Harold Simpson Confederate Research Center and Audie Murphy Gun Museum , an outlet mall on I-35 and antique stores. Mr. Skipper had 10 kids. Never heard of the springs you refer to but Chalk Mountain community and lookut ridge towards Glen Rose Paluxy - Brazos valleys are not between Stephenville and Hico. There are several Taylors in Waco- one teaches at McClennan Community College. Some may well be descended from this Skipper who married a Taylor 90 plus years ago. Helen Marie Taylor from out of state is a benefactor of the Waco- McLennan County area museum. She is seeking help from public or private funds. It is in a former Waco school nest to Huaco Indian Camp Spring off Waco Drive. The oak tree over the spring is estimated at 350 to 500 years old and does not win the largest tree in the County This is . Not the Texas Rangers Museum or Baylor Strecker Museum or the Dr. Pepper Museum or the Texas Sports Hall of Fame. or the Texas Collection outside the main library, dating from Baylor's charter - was it 1836 or 1845? Austin Daughters & Sons of Republic of Texas and Daughters of the Confederacy records were moved there when the state remodelled the old Land Office Building and put records in storage, but they were moved back to Austin before they got organized Take care Charles Wyly ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi All: Am looking for Alice Stephens. Alice was married to William Pollman and had three children. They were suppose to have been born in Thurber, Texas, however, only one is documented. Martha Sarah Pollman, Sept. 30, 1893. Is anyone out there doing work on Stephens in Erath County and do you have an Alice b. abt 1867. She died in Washington State around 1940. Thank you, Pat _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, Does anyone know anything about 'Taylor Springs' somewhere between Hico and Stephenville, I *think*, maybe close to a 'Chalk Mountain'. My grGrandmother, Lucy Elizabeth Taylor was born there September 29, 1888. Her parents were James Henry Taylor and Malinda Ellen Locker. Many thanks! Oh, and Mr.Wyly, I dearly love your postings! I look forward to receiving mail from this list and reading your wonderful posts. Thanks for your wonderful input. (The frog story, I confess, had me turning white and leaning towards the floor!!!) Donna Cage Cedar Creek, TX

This one is really neat! Enter any family surname and you'll get a nice colorful distribution map of that surname in the United States. For beginners, it's a good indication of where to search for your ancestors. For the experienced, it can show you where your cousins have settled. Go to our main site http://www.selfroots.com and scroll down until you find the section entitled "Link YourSelf." Click on that link. The map is the first link under GENEALOGY PAGES. Barbara seawolf@selfroots.com http://www.selfroots.com

Hi, some quick thoughts before I read some more. Were these Lingles the ones Lingleville was named for? Clara Atkins has some on lingleville history- my former teacher- in her book. Hendrix- Seems Audie Murphy married a Wanda Hendrix. Wasn't she from Weatherford area? I had some Mayflour connections- think it was through Moxley or Fleming. Great Grandad Moxley's family were Baptist, but dressed and acted like Puritans. or Amish when they came from Missouri to Texas. Have not pursued this one but would like to have time to. Take care Charles Wyly On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:18:53 -0600 "Michael Holland" <mai-holland@worldnet.att.net> writes: >I haven't made a connection to the HOLLANDs of Erath County. Mine >were >up in Palo Pinto and Parker counties. The families I'm working on in >Erath >are: James Neely BROWN (have his line back into Alabama) b 18 Nov >1858, >died 12 Dec 1877, Dublin. Am especially looking for any information >on his >wife Permelia J. PARKER b 15 Dec 1861 and died 12 Oct 1903 in Dublin. >Her grave there in Erath county is next to a Louisa PARKER, so that >may be >her mother. > Also son of James Neely BROWN was John Thomas BROWN, born >21 Mar 1878 in Dublin, died 02 May 1935 up in Mineral Wells. He >married >Allie Ida HENDRIX born 03 Sep 1881, died 08 Jan 1944 in Houston. They >lived most of their life in Dublin. Some of the HENDRIX line married >into >the >LINGLEs and I'm searching for connections. > Allie Ida's father was Henry Jeff HENDRIX who grew up around >Dublin; >b 14 Nov 1861, GA, died 06 Jan 1898 from farming accident. He's >buried in >Lingleville Cemetary. His parents where Henry Walter HENDRIX d 04 Apr >1890 and Sarah HENDRIX born 11 May 1834 in Alabama, died 22 Mar 1917 >both in Erath County. I'm looking for the HENDRIX connections before >1870. > Henry Jeff HENDIX (above) married Amy Annie HUMBLE (a >Mayflower >connection!). Amy died 15 Jul 1904 in Dublin; her mother was >Elizabeth >Ann >Fulton who died 19 Jan 1925, buried in Walnut Springs. I'm looking >for >HUMBLE >connections before 1850, perhaps IL or KY. > Finally one of my gggrandmothers was Elizabeth KIRBY, died abt >1890 in Dublin. Don't know much about her. Any help appreciated. >Michael > >---------- >> From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> >> To: mai-holland@worldnet.att.net >> Cc: Wyly1@mci2000.com; TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book >> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 12:27 PM >> >> Hi, Michael, >> >> who are your grandparents? Ever hear of Sylvia Holland of Willow >> Springs, between Walnut Springs and Meridian, or between the Twin >Peaks >> near Willow Springs and the confluence of the East Bosque and the >North >> Bosque, east of Iredell. This was Jackson's Crossing (low water >> crossing). Sylvia was in a Biology class and some Geometry and >History >> classes I taught at Walnut Springs High School. I also sometimes >drove >> that bus route. They sometimes killed rattlesnakes near Twin Peaks >on a >> southern exposure slope in December. >> >> Sylvia married Butch Offutt and the last time I saw him he was >working in >> a Hillsboro , Texas body shop. Can't remember her brother's name. >Butch's >> grandad was an elderly carpenter in Walnut Springs. >> >> One day we folollowed the rural school pattern of catching our own >frogs >> to examine, rather than buying the pickled ones some Lab had killed >and >> then they injected their veins with red Latex. Didn't seem such a >big >> deal to us, as we killed our own chickens and hogs and Deer and >short >> circuited the Supermarket loop. J.Eddie McCarty and Larry Jackson >poured >> wood alcohol on the frog's body to sterilize him. His head dropped >like >> he was dead. then we neatly opened his stomach and watched his heart >beat >> and identified the parts, then neatly sewed his stomach seam up with >a >> needle and strong thread. The next day he was sitting in the sink >> croaking. We fed him and by the 3rd day he hopped out of his pan, >under >> the door,down the stairs, and was sitting at the front door the >next >> morinig. We put him in a flower bed near the school door and he >appeared >> happy a few days, then he vanished. A week or so later Sylvia came >in >> and said "Mr. Wyly, our frog came home- over 3 miles. I found him in >a >> cool wet shade yesterday and he still had the stitches". >> >> Do Frogs have a pigeon's homing instincts, or did we have a >prankster who >> sneaked the frog out to near their house????? Imagine hopping 3 >miles in >> rocks and gravel, dodging snakes and hungry stray dogs and racoons >and >> only he knows what else. , all to get home to his favorite shade. . >> >> Take care >> >> Charles Wyly >> >> >> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:40:37 -0600 "Michael Holland" >> <mai-holland@worldnet.att.net> writes: >> >Charles, you're incredible. No wonder the Erath site is a >favorite. >> >Thanks for all your contributions. Keep up the good work! >> >I've learned more about Erath County history from you than from >> >years of research. I have four sets of grandparents in the >> >county, none of which you are related, but I learn the real >> >flavor of Texas from you each week. Thanks again for your >> >input. Michael Holland, Dallas, TX >> > >> >---------- >> >> From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> >> >> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book >> >> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 7:42 PM >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> The Soundex is in the Waco- Mclennan County library, Geneaology >> >section. >> >> I haven't had time to use it recently. Brady Richardson attends >our >> >> church in Hewitt and Richardson Creek in Erath County, a >tributary >> >of >> >> the Paluxy River. Sid Richardson was a self made Texas oil >> >millionaire >> >> and left his estate with Corporate offices in Fort Worth, Texas >> >willed to >> >> his nephews, the Bass Brothers. Fort Worth is in 3 parts, North >> >Main, for >> >> example, runs from the Trinity River North. Main runs from the >> >Trinity >> >> south from the Courthouse seen on 'Walker, Texas Ranger"on tv, to > >> >East >> >> Lancaster and the Railroad depot. From there south is South Main >. >> >Other >> >> downtown streets are divided similarly. The Bass Brothers >> >corporations >> >> hire private security guards in uniform and disguise to >supplement >> >City >> >> and County police in the downtown tourist area between the >> >Convention >> >> Center and the Courthouse, It is the safest downtown area in any >> >town in >> >> Texas , according to reports. >> >> >> >> Since you are in Ireland and are apparently a Riley, HELP! My >> >wife's >> >> grandad, James Whitcomb O'Riley died in Cleburne , Texas 1893 >when >> >her >> >> dad Alvin Norman was about 6 years old. He was 43 or so. and was >> >married >> >> twice. , the second time to Alice Marie Renfro of Tennessee and >> >Johnson >> >> County, Texas. Jeannie's dad and his two sisters said Mr. O' >Riley >> >was an >> >> Irish Catholic- red headed and freckled, just like 2 of his 3 >second >> >set >> >> of kids. He lived on a farm in Ireland that raised prize race >> >horses. He >> >> was told to never ride, ESPECIALLY the Stalion when the family >were >> >gone >> >> and he was home. One day, at age 12, he was jumping with the >Stalion >> >and >> >> he fell and broke a lef. James did not want a Sheileigh >threshing, >> >so, at >> >> age 12, he helpped the stalion to his stall, wrapped his leg, and > >> >packed >> >> some sandwiches and clothes and stowed away in a lifeboat on an >> >outbound >> >> ship. Three days to sea he was seasick and gave himself up to the > >> >Sea >> >> Captain ., who said he could work his way to the U.S. as many of >the >> >crew >> >> were coming down sick. >> >> >> >> Since james was alone, he could not come through immigration with >> >> parents, so the Sea Captain carried him to a Tinker.s shop (for >> >sheet >> >> metal supplies and buckets and tubs for the ship) in New York and > >> >James >> >> signed on as an Aprentice Tinker. He came ti Cleburne, Johnson >> >County, >> >> Texas where he gardened, made sheet metal supplies like water >tanks >> >and >> >> troughs and deliverred them on his weekly route where he sold >> >Watkins or >> >> Rawleigh products and took more orders for custom sheet metal >work. >> >> We have reason to believe one of my wife's dad's half brothers >was a >> >> Cleburne Texas barber and one ran a shoe factory in Boston Mr. >Riley >> >said >> >> before he died that an attorney had once contacted him about >being >> >an >> >> heir to the shoe factory and someons else had contacted him about > >> >the >> >> farm in Ireland. He told them he had his own West Texas land and >a >> >> Central West Texas retirement home and if his dad had not >bothered >> >to >> >> tell him and his mother about their inheritance, he was not >> >interested. >> >> >> >> Does this ring any Bells? >> >> >> >> I also know a building in Dublin, Ireland and one in \Glasgow, >> >Scotland >> >> had our Wyly name carved in Stone over the door. My Great Grandad > >> >John >> >> Milton Moxley married Mary Ann Fleming, both Ireland born,or 1 >> >generation >> >> removed, and Mary Ann's mom was Mary Murphy They are all buried >in >> >Indian >> >> Creek Cemetery, Erath County , Texas. >> >> . Some of his kids married aome Irish immigrants named Higdon, >> >Arendell, >> >> and Darnell. >> >> >> >> Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. Dr. W.P. Hatchett's (he buried in Erath >> >County) >> >> family were from Shrevesburg, England. One Hatchett was Burgess >of >> >> Shrevesburg. Great Great Grand's mother Eliza Tuggle >(Tugglestine) >> >(Also >> >> buried in Erath County by his wive's parents, Rev. & Mrs Angelina >> >> Isabella Stevens) had roots in Jamestown, Va. from the Tarrant, >> >Tuggle >> >> and Herndon families of Bradford, England, who made Navy uniforms > >> >for >> >> World wide export and Tarrant County, Texas is rooted in the same > >> >family. >> >> One built Christ Church in Bradford and donated it and land to >the >> >> community. >> >> >> >> Does any of this ring any bells? Just courious >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Charles Augustine Wyly >> >> >> >> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:03 EST Arkivemom@aol.com writes: >> >> >Does anyone out there have access to the 1880 soundex for TX? I >am >> >in >> >> >Ireland >> >> >and need to find out which county either of the two following >were >> >in >> >> >in >> >> >1880:James Buchanan RICHARDSON, who would have been 35, and/or >> >Henry >> >> >Clinton >> >> >RICHARDSON, who would have been 30. I just need the county. Any >> >help >> >> >would be >> >> >most appreciated. >> >> >Charmaine Riley Holley >> >> >arkivemom@aol.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >___________________________________________________________________ >> >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet >e-mail. >> >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >> >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> > >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, the Allens I jnew best lived down the Tracks at Whitney and Hillsboro. One was Lousi Allen, registrar of Hill College in its new campus after it separated from Hillsboro High campus. His kin ran Allen Auto parts on Whitney highway in Hillsboro, Texas. Mom used to talk about some Allens she knew in Erath County. Think they lived in Evergreen- Rabbit Center- Welcome Valley in the sand and shallow water east of Stephenville before it turned into black land and limestone rock. -on Hwy 67. If I find or remember will let you know. Our organist at Hewitt Baptist Church. - Anita Allen. her husband is a semi retired Baylor choir teacher and a licensed mediator. Their son Kirk left coaching at Bruceville- Eddy and is now our youth pastor and is attending Truett Seminary or Baylor for a Ministerial post graduate degree. He had 4 sisters. I have all them sing a special together and they are really talented. I mention this because High school and College teachers often move from their birth county. Anita used to acompany the Midway High School choir. , Hewitt- Woodway- Waco, Texas Hammetts lived in Chalk Mountain area. One and her daqughter are buried in Selden Hatchett cemetery on the Duffau Creek by the Wyly Brothers Dairy. These Hammetts were connected to the Chalk Mountain Bordner family. Chalk Mountain Masonic Lodge may have records on them. It is the oldest continuous meeting in Texas, if I remember right. They met for years upstairs over an abandoned Blacksmith shop, resembling the one at Johnsville. Take care Charles Wyly On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:51:16 EST GEMERM@aol.com writes: >I am looking for information on J.C. Allen & his wife Bettie Allen >Hammett >Elliott. According to some probate papers I have they lived in >Comanche >County in 1881 but the last time I find them they are in Erath County >in 1884. >If anyone has knowledge of this family I would appreciate hearing from >you. >Thanks. >Beth Meriwether > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I haven't made a connection to the HOLLANDs of Erath County. Mine were up in Palo Pinto and Parker counties. The families I'm working on in Erath are: James Neely BROWN (have his line back into Alabama) b 18 Nov 1858, died 12 Dec 1877, Dublin. Am especially looking for any information on his wife Permelia J. PARKER b 15 Dec 1861 and died 12 Oct 1903 in Dublin. Her grave there in Erath county is next to a Louisa PARKER, so that may be her mother. Also son of James Neely BROWN was John Thomas BROWN, born 21 Mar 1878 in Dublin, died 02 May 1935 up in Mineral Wells. He married Allie Ida HENDRIX born 03 Sep 1881, died 08 Jan 1944 in Houston. They lived most of their life in Dublin. Some of the HENDRIX line married into the LINGLEs and I'm searching for connections. Allie Ida's father was Henry Jeff HENDRIX who grew up around Dublin; b 14 Nov 1861, GA, died 06 Jan 1898 from farming accident. He's buried in Lingleville Cemetary. His parents where Henry Walter HENDRIX d 04 Apr 1890 and Sarah HENDRIX born 11 May 1834 in Alabama, died 22 Mar 1917 both in Erath County. I'm looking for the HENDRIX connections before 1870. Henry Jeff HENDIX (above) married Amy Annie HUMBLE (a Mayflower connection!). Amy died 15 Jul 1904 in Dublin; her mother was Elizabeth Ann Fulton who died 19 Jan 1925, buried in Walnut Springs. I'm looking for HUMBLE connections before 1850, perhaps IL or KY. Finally one of my gggrandmothers was Elizabeth KIRBY, died abt 1890 in Dublin. Don't know much about her. Any help appreciated. Michael ---------- > From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > To: mai-holland@worldnet.att.net > Cc: Wyly1@mci2000.com; TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book > Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 12:27 PM > > Hi, Michael, > > who are your grandparents? Ever hear of Sylvia Holland of Willow > Springs, between Walnut Springs and Meridian, or between the Twin Peaks > near Willow Springs and the confluence of the East Bosque and the North > Bosque, east of Iredell. This was Jackson's Crossing (low water > crossing). Sylvia was in a Biology class and some Geometry and History > classes I taught at Walnut Springs High School. I also sometimes drove > that bus route. They sometimes killed rattlesnakes near Twin Peaks on a > southern exposure slope in December. > > Sylvia married Butch Offutt and the last time I saw him he was working in > a Hillsboro , Texas body shop. Can't remember her brother's name. Butch's > grandad was an elderly carpenter in Walnut Springs. > > One day we folollowed the rural school pattern of catching our own frogs > to examine, rather than buying the pickled ones some Lab had killed and > then they injected their veins with red Latex. Didn't seem such a big > deal to us, as we killed our own chickens and hogs and Deer and short > circuited the Supermarket loop. J.Eddie McCarty and Larry Jackson poured > wood alcohol on the frog's body to sterilize him. His head dropped like > he was dead. then we neatly opened his stomach and watched his heart beat > and identified the parts, then neatly sewed his stomach seam up with a > needle and strong thread. The next day he was sitting in the sink > croaking. We fed him and by the 3rd day he hopped out of his pan, under > the door,down the stairs, and was sitting at the front door the next > morinig. We put him in a flower bed near the school door and he appeared > happy a few days, then he vanished. A week or so later Sylvia came in > and said "Mr. Wyly, our frog came home- over 3 miles. I found him in a > cool wet shade yesterday and he still had the stitches". > > Do Frogs have a pigeon's homing instincts, or did we have a prankster who > sneaked the frog out to near their house????? Imagine hopping 3 miles in > rocks and gravel, dodging snakes and hungry stray dogs and racoons and > only he knows what else. , all to get home to his favorite shade. . > > Take care > > Charles Wyly > > > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:40:37 -0600 "Michael Holland" > <mai-holland@worldnet.att.net> writes: > >Charles, you're incredible. No wonder the Erath site is a favorite. > >Thanks for all your contributions. Keep up the good work! > >I've learned more about Erath County history from you than from > >years of research. I have four sets of grandparents in the > >county, none of which you are related, but I learn the real > >flavor of Texas from you each week. Thanks again for your > >input. Michael Holland, Dallas, TX > > > >---------- > >> From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > >> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book > >> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 7:42 PM > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> The Soundex is in the Waco- Mclennan County library, Geneaology > >section. > >> I haven't had time to use it recently. Brady Richardson attends our > >> church in Hewitt and Richardson Creek in Erath County, a tributary > >of > >> the Paluxy River. Sid Richardson was a self made Texas oil > >millionaire > >> and left his estate with Corporate offices in Fort Worth, Texas > >willed to > >> his nephews, the Bass Brothers. Fort Worth is in 3 parts, North > >Main, for > >> example, runs from the Trinity River North. Main runs from the > >Trinity > >> south from the Courthouse seen on 'Walker, Texas Ranger"on tv, to > >East > >> Lancaster and the Railroad depot. From there south is South Main . > >Other > >> downtown streets are divided similarly. The Bass Brothers > >corporations > >> hire private security guards in uniform and disguise to supplement > >City > >> and County police in the downtown tourist area between the > >Convention > >> Center and the Courthouse, It is the safest downtown area in any > >town in > >> Texas , according to reports. > >> > >> Since you are in Ireland and are apparently a Riley, HELP! My > >wife's > >> grandad, James Whitcomb O'Riley died in Cleburne , Texas 1893 when > >her > >> dad Alvin Norman was about 6 years old. He was 43 or so. and was > >married > >> twice. , the second time to Alice Marie Renfro of Tennessee and > >Johnson > >> County, Texas. Jeannie's dad and his two sisters said Mr. O' Riley > >was an > >> Irish Catholic- red headed and freckled, just like 2 of his 3 second > >set > >> of kids. He lived on a farm in Ireland that raised prize race > >horses. He > >> was told to never ride, ESPECIALLY the Stalion when the family were > >gone > >> and he was home. One day, at age 12, he was jumping with the Stalion > >and > >> he fell and broke a lef. James did not want a Sheileigh threshing, > >so, at > >> age 12, he helpped the stalion to his stall, wrapped his leg, and > >packed > >> some sandwiches and clothes and stowed away in a lifeboat on an > >outbound > >> ship. Three days to sea he was seasick and gave himself up to the > >Sea > >> Captain ., who said he could work his way to the U.S. as many of the > >crew > >> were coming down sick. > >> > >> Since james was alone, he could not come through immigration with > >> parents, so the Sea Captain carried him to a Tinker.s shop (for > >sheet > >> metal supplies and buckets and tubs for the ship) in New York and > >James > >> signed on as an Aprentice Tinker. He came ti Cleburne, Johnson > >County, > >> Texas where he gardened, made sheet metal supplies like water tanks > >and > >> troughs and deliverred them on his weekly route where he sold > >Watkins or > >> Rawleigh products and took more orders for custom sheet metal work. > >> We have reason to believe one of my wife's dad's half brothers was a > >> Cleburne Texas barber and one ran a shoe factory in Boston Mr. Riley > >said > >> before he died that an attorney had once contacted him about being > >an > >> heir to the shoe factory and someons else had contacted him about > >the > >> farm in Ireland. He told them he had his own West Texas land and a > >> Central West Texas retirement home and if his dad had not bothered > >to > >> tell him and his mother about their inheritance, he was not > >interested. > >> > >> Does this ring any Bells? > >> > >> I also know a building in Dublin, Ireland and one in \Glasgow, > >Scotland > >> had our Wyly name carved in Stone over the door. My Great Grandad > >John > >> Milton Moxley married Mary Ann Fleming, both Ireland born,or 1 > >generation > >> removed, and Mary Ann's mom was Mary Murphy They are all buried in > >Indian > >> Creek Cemetery, Erath County , Texas. > >> . Some of his kids married aome Irish immigrants named Higdon, > >Arendell, > >> and Darnell. > >> > >> Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. Dr. W.P. Hatchett's (he buried in Erath > >County) > >> family were from Shrevesburg, England. One Hatchett was Burgess of > >> Shrevesburg. Great Great Grand's mother Eliza Tuggle (Tugglestine) > >(Also > >> buried in Erath County by his wive's parents, Rev. & Mrs Angelina > >> Isabella Stevens) had roots in Jamestown, Va. from the Tarrant, > >Tuggle > >> and Herndon families of Bradford, England, who made Navy uniforms > >for > >> World wide export and Tarrant County, Texas is rooted in the same > >family. > >> One built Christ Church in Bradford and donated it and land to the > >> community. > >> > >> Does any of this ring any bells? Just courious > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Charles Augustine Wyly > >> > >> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:03 EST Arkivemom@aol.com writes: > >> >Does anyone out there have access to the 1880 soundex for TX? I am > >in > >> >Ireland > >> >and need to find out which county either of the two following were > >in > >> >in > >> >1880:James Buchanan RICHARDSON, who would have been 35, and/or > >Henry > >> >Clinton > >> >RICHARDSON, who would have been 30. I just need the county. Any > >help > >> >would be > >> >most appreciated. > >> >Charmaine Riley Holley > >> >arkivemom@aol.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at > >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, Michael, who are your grandparents? Ever hear of Sylvia Holland of Willow Springs, between Walnut Springs and Meridian, or between the Twin Peaks near Willow Springs and the confluence of the East Bosque and the North Bosque, east of Iredell. This was Jackson's Crossing (low water crossing). Sylvia was in a Biology class and some Geometry and History classes I taught at Walnut Springs High School. I also sometimes drove that bus route. They sometimes killed rattlesnakes near Twin Peaks on a southern exposure slope in December. Sylvia married Butch Offutt and the last time I saw him he was working in a Hillsboro , Texas body shop. Can't remember her brother's name. Butch's grandad was an elderly carpenter in Walnut Springs. One day we folollowed the rural school pattern of catching our own frogs to examine, rather than buying the pickled ones some Lab had killed and then they injected their veins with red Latex. Didn't seem such a big deal to us, as we killed our own chickens and hogs and Deer and short circuited the Supermarket loop. J.Eddie McCarty and Larry Jackson poured wood alcohol on the frog's body to sterilize him. His head dropped like he was dead. then we neatly opened his stomach and watched his heart beat and identified the parts, then neatly sewed his stomach seam up with a needle and strong thread. The next day he was sitting in the sink croaking. We fed him and by the 3rd day he hopped out of his pan, under the door,down the stairs, and was sitting at the front door the next morinig. We put him in a flower bed near the school door and he appeared happy a few days, then he vanished. A week or so later Sylvia came in and said "Mr. Wyly, our frog came home- over 3 miles. I found him in a cool wet shade yesterday and he still had the stitches". Do Frogs have a pigeon's homing instincts, or did we have a prankster who sneaked the frog out to near their house????? Imagine hopping 3 miles in rocks and gravel, dodging snakes and hungry stray dogs and racoons and only he knows what else. , all to get home to his favorite shade. . Take care Charles Wyly On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:40:37 -0600 "Michael Holland" <mai-holland@worldnet.att.net> writes: >Charles, you're incredible. No wonder the Erath site is a favorite. >Thanks for all your contributions. Keep up the good work! >I've learned more about Erath County history from you than from >years of research. I have four sets of grandparents in the >county, none of which you are related, but I learn the real >flavor of Texas from you each week. Thanks again for your >input. Michael Holland, Dallas, TX > >---------- >> From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> >> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book >> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 7:42 PM >> >> Hi, >> >> The Soundex is in the Waco- Mclennan County library, Geneaology >section. >> I haven't had time to use it recently. Brady Richardson attends our >> church in Hewitt and Richardson Creek in Erath County, a tributary >of >> the Paluxy River. Sid Richardson was a self made Texas oil >millionaire >> and left his estate with Corporate offices in Fort Worth, Texas >willed to >> his nephews, the Bass Brothers. Fort Worth is in 3 parts, North >Main, for >> example, runs from the Trinity River North. Main runs from the >Trinity >> south from the Courthouse seen on 'Walker, Texas Ranger"on tv, to >East >> Lancaster and the Railroad depot. From there south is South Main . >Other >> downtown streets are divided similarly. The Bass Brothers >corporations >> hire private security guards in uniform and disguise to supplement >City >> and County police in the downtown tourist area between the >Convention >> Center and the Courthouse, It is the safest downtown area in any >town in >> Texas , according to reports. >> >> Since you are in Ireland and are apparently a Riley, HELP! My >wife's >> grandad, James Whitcomb O'Riley died in Cleburne , Texas 1893 when >her >> dad Alvin Norman was about 6 years old. He was 43 or so. and was >married >> twice. , the second time to Alice Marie Renfro of Tennessee and >Johnson >> County, Texas. Jeannie's dad and his two sisters said Mr. O' Riley >was an >> Irish Catholic- red headed and freckled, just like 2 of his 3 second >set >> of kids. He lived on a farm in Ireland that raised prize race >horses. He >> was told to never ride, ESPECIALLY the Stalion when the family were >gone >> and he was home. One day, at age 12, he was jumping with the Stalion >and >> he fell and broke a lef. James did not want a Sheileigh threshing, >so, at >> age 12, he helpped the stalion to his stall, wrapped his leg, and >packed >> some sandwiches and clothes and stowed away in a lifeboat on an >outbound >> ship. Three days to sea he was seasick and gave himself up to the >Sea >> Captain ., who said he could work his way to the U.S. as many of the >crew >> were coming down sick. >> >> Since james was alone, he could not come through immigration with >> parents, so the Sea Captain carried him to a Tinker.s shop (for >sheet >> metal supplies and buckets and tubs for the ship) in New York and >James >> signed on as an Aprentice Tinker. He came ti Cleburne, Johnson >County, >> Texas where he gardened, made sheet metal supplies like water tanks >and >> troughs and deliverred them on his weekly route where he sold >Watkins or >> Rawleigh products and took more orders for custom sheet metal work. >> We have reason to believe one of my wife's dad's half brothers was a >> Cleburne Texas barber and one ran a shoe factory in Boston Mr. Riley >said >> before he died that an attorney had once contacted him about being >an >> heir to the shoe factory and someons else had contacted him about >the >> farm in Ireland. He told them he had his own West Texas land and a >> Central West Texas retirement home and if his dad had not bothered >to >> tell him and his mother about their inheritance, he was not >interested. >> >> Does this ring any Bells? >> >> I also know a building in Dublin, Ireland and one in \Glasgow, >Scotland >> had our Wyly name carved in Stone over the door. My Great Grandad >John >> Milton Moxley married Mary Ann Fleming, both Ireland born,or 1 >generation >> removed, and Mary Ann's mom was Mary Murphy They are all buried in >Indian >> Creek Cemetery, Erath County , Texas. >> . Some of his kids married aome Irish immigrants named Higdon, >Arendell, >> and Darnell. >> >> Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. Dr. W.P. Hatchett's (he buried in Erath >County) >> family were from Shrevesburg, England. One Hatchett was Burgess of >> Shrevesburg. Great Great Grand's mother Eliza Tuggle (Tugglestine) >(Also >> buried in Erath County by his wive's parents, Rev. & Mrs Angelina >> Isabella Stevens) had roots in Jamestown, Va. from the Tarrant, >Tuggle >> and Herndon families of Bradford, England, who made Navy uniforms >for >> World wide export and Tarrant County, Texas is rooted in the same >family. >> One built Christ Church in Bradford and donated it and land to the >> community. >> >> Does any of this ring any bells? Just courious >> >> Thanks, >> Charles Augustine Wyly >> >> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:03 EST Arkivemom@aol.com writes: >> >Does anyone out there have access to the 1880 soundex for TX? I am >in >> >Ireland >> >and need to find out which county either of the two following were >in >> >in >> >1880:James Buchanan RICHARDSON, who would have been 35, and/or >Henry >> >Clinton >> >RICHARDSON, who would have been 30. I just need the county. Any >help >> >would be >> >most appreciated. >> >Charmaine Riley Holley >> >arkivemom@aol.com >> > >> > >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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I am looking for information on J.C. Allen & his wife Bettie Allen Hammett Elliott. According to some probate papers I have they lived in Comanche County in 1881 but the last time I find them they are in Erath County in 1884. If anyone has knowledge of this family I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. Beth Meriwether

Charles, you're incredible. No wonder the Erath site is a favorite. Thanks for all your contributions. Keep up the good work! I've learned more about Erath County history from you than from years of research. I have four sets of grandparents in the county, none of which you are related, but I learn the real flavor of Texas from you each week. Thanks again for your input. Michael Holland, Dallas, TX ---------- > From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book > Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 7:42 PM > > Hi, > > The Soundex is in the Waco- Mclennan County library, Geneaology section. > I haven't had time to use it recently. Brady Richardson attends our > church in Hewitt and Richardson Creek in Erath County, a tributary of > the Paluxy River. Sid Richardson was a self made Texas oil millionaire > and left his estate with Corporate offices in Fort Worth, Texas willed to > his nephews, the Bass Brothers. Fort Worth is in 3 parts, North Main, for > example, runs from the Trinity River North. Main runs from the Trinity > south from the Courthouse seen on 'Walker, Texas Ranger"on tv, to East > Lancaster and the Railroad depot. From there south is South Main . Other > downtown streets are divided similarly. The Bass Brothers corporations > hire private security guards in uniform and disguise to supplement City > and County police in the downtown tourist area between the Convention > Center and the Courthouse, It is the safest downtown area in any town in > Texas , according to reports. > > Since you are in Ireland and are apparently a Riley, HELP! My wife's > grandad, James Whitcomb O'Riley died in Cleburne , Texas 1893 when her > dad Alvin Norman was about 6 years old. He was 43 or so. and was married > twice. , the second time to Alice Marie Renfro of Tennessee and Johnson > County, Texas. Jeannie's dad and his two sisters said Mr. O' Riley was an > Irish Catholic- red headed and freckled, just like 2 of his 3 second set > of kids. He lived on a farm in Ireland that raised prize race horses. He > was told to never ride, ESPECIALLY the Stalion when the family were gone > and he was home. One day, at age 12, he was jumping with the Stalion and > he fell and broke a lef. James did not want a Sheileigh threshing, so, at > age 12, he helpped the stalion to his stall, wrapped his leg, and packed > some sandwiches and clothes and stowed away in a lifeboat on an outbound > ship. Three days to sea he was seasick and gave himself up to the Sea > Captain ., who said he could work his way to the U.S. as many of the crew > were coming down sick. > > Since james was alone, he could not come through immigration with > parents, so the Sea Captain carried him to a Tinker.s shop (for sheet > metal supplies and buckets and tubs for the ship) in New York and James > signed on as an Aprentice Tinker. He came ti Cleburne, Johnson County, > Texas where he gardened, made sheet metal supplies like water tanks and > troughs and deliverred them on his weekly route where he sold Watkins or > Rawleigh products and took more orders for custom sheet metal work. > We have reason to believe one of my wife's dad's half brothers was a > Cleburne Texas barber and one ran a shoe factory in Boston Mr. Riley said > before he died that an attorney had once contacted him about being an > heir to the shoe factory and someons else had contacted him about the > farm in Ireland. He told them he had his own West Texas land and a > Central West Texas retirement home and if his dad had not bothered to > tell him and his mother about their inheritance, he was not interested. > > Does this ring any Bells? > > I also know a building in Dublin, Ireland and one in \Glasgow, Scotland > had our Wyly name carved in Stone over the door. My Great Grandad John > Milton Moxley married Mary Ann Fleming, both Ireland born,or 1 generation > removed, and Mary Ann's mom was Mary Murphy They are all buried in Indian > Creek Cemetery, Erath County , Texas. > . Some of his kids married aome Irish immigrants named Higdon, Arendell, > and Darnell. > > Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. Dr. W.P. Hatchett's (he buried in Erath County) > family were from Shrevesburg, England. One Hatchett was Burgess of > Shrevesburg. Great Great Grand's mother Eliza Tuggle (Tugglestine) (Also > buried in Erath County by his wive's parents, Rev. & Mrs Angelina > Isabella Stevens) had roots in Jamestown, Va. from the Tarrant, Tuggle > and Herndon families of Bradford, England, who made Navy uniforms for > World wide export and Tarrant County, Texas is rooted in the same family. > One built Christ Church in Bradford and donated it and land to the > community. > > Does any of this ring any bells? Just courious > > Thanks, > Charles Augustine Wyly > > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:03 EST Arkivemom@aol.com writes: > >Does anyone out there have access to the 1880 soundex for TX? I am in > >Ireland > >and need to find out which county either of the two following were in > >in > >1880:James Buchanan RICHARDSON, who would have been 35, and/or Henry > >Clinton > >RICHARDSON, who would have been 30. I just need the county. Any help > >would be > >most appreciated. > >Charmaine Riley Holley > >arkivemom@aol.com > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hey, is this a loaded question or what? 1. Marriage bonds could be the natural bonds that develop when two are married. 2. Marriage bonds could be pre nupital contracts to protect the inheritance of children of a first mate. Now that one could get sticky under the Community Property laws of Texas. 3. To you Old Hippies who don't know what to do. an Arrangement or free marriage or shack up over 3 or so years is subject to divorce and community property laws in Texas. Also, the philosophy that a scrap of paper means nothing is some selfish person's attempt to share the privileges of marriage without long term obligations to the children or mate- just dump them and let the State raise them. You mean like Russia and Albania? Deliver us from that. The Old Irish saying "If you want to dance, you must pay the Fiddler". is pretty wise for a stable society. 4. When Stephen F. Austin's Anglo and Black colonists( Yes , The yellow Rose of Texas, a Cowboy and Texas History hero for spying on Gen. Santa Anna with camp followers for Sam Houston) came into Spanish Texas, they were required to do a token oath to support the Mexican Government and the Catholic Church and be married in the Church. but Mexico supplied no more Priests. At one time 80% of Mexican Priests were from Ireland. The Colonsits held regular Bible studies in the Catholic Chapels, led by themselves. They would stand 3 times in a Church gathering and announce their plans for a formal marriage, when the Circuit Riding Priest came around, if he lived that long. These common law marriages were subject to the same divorce procedures as a legal marriage. Sometimes 2 or 3 children took place in the formal ceremony when and if the Priest made it. 5. Could the contract be the one that a Protestant is asked to sign if he marries a Catholic in the Church to raise all kids Catholic? My wife's Tarleton Roommate. a Methodist, signed one written In Latin, at first, which she could not read. If the marriage was not done in the Church, it was not recognized by the church and was easily annulled, regardless of children. Naturally the Anglos around Burr Ferry (AAron Burr's nephews) and East Texas Indians or those of mixed heritage had their own customs as if there were no Spanish. Crossing the Sabine was a regular procedure if one State got too inquisitive. 6, Also it could apply to proxy marriages of single Mormons , deceased. If you run Family Tree Maker, some family pages from LDS library have a place to check if they are now " sealed" for greater Eternal hope. 7. Sometimes Indian tribes had property exchange to arrange or seal a marriage. Any other ideas? Charles Wyly On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:08:35 -0600 "Phillip Maynard" <maynard@hti.net> writes: >Hi Everyone - > >The Erath County web site received the county web site of the month >for >Texas--a well deserved honor. The people who subscribe to this >mailing >list are the very best on any mailing list I subscribe. Always, >helpful--no matter what subject and not a bunch of complainers and >whiners. > Now what are marriage bonds? > >Ann Works Maynard >3814 Lake St. >Houston, TX 77098 >phone: 713/528-0682 >e-mail: maynard@hti.net > > ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html.

Hi, The Soundex is in the Waco- Mclennan County library, Geneaology section. I haven't had time to use it recently. Brady Richardson attends our church in Hewitt and Richardson Creek in Erath County, a tributary of the Paluxy River. Sid Richardson was a self made Texas oil millionaire and left his estate with Corporate offices in Fort Worth, Texas willed to his nephews, the Bass Brothers. Fort Worth is in 3 parts, North Main, for example, runs from the Trinity River North. Main runs from the Trinity south from the Courthouse seen on 'Walker, Texas Ranger"on tv, to East Lancaster and the Railroad depot. From there south is South Main . Other downtown streets are divided similarly. The Bass Brothers corporations hire private security guards in uniform and disguise to supplement City and County police in the downtown tourist area between the Convention Center and the Courthouse, It is the safest downtown area in any town in Texas , according to reports. Since you are in Ireland and are apparently a Riley, HELP! My wife's grandad, James Whitcomb O'Riley died in Cleburne , Texas 1893 when her dad Alvin Norman was about 6 years old. He was 43 or so. and was married twice. , the second time to Alice Marie Renfro of Tennessee and Johnson County, Texas. Jeannie's dad and his two sisters said Mr. O' Riley was an Irish Catholic- red headed and freckled, just like 2 of his 3 second set of kids. He lived on a farm in Ireland that raised prize race horses. He was told to never ride, ESPECIALLY the Stalion when the family were gone and he was home. One day, at age 12, he was jumping with the Stalion and he fell and broke a lef. James did not want a Sheileigh threshing, so, at age 12, he helpped the stalion to his stall, wrapped his leg, and packed some sandwiches and clothes and stowed away in a lifeboat on an outbound ship. Three days to sea he was seasick and gave himself up to the Sea Captain ., who said he could work his way to the U.S. as many of the crew were coming down sick. Since james was alone, he could not come through immigration with parents, so the Sea Captain carried him to a Tinker.s shop (for sheet metal supplies and buckets and tubs for the ship) in New York and James signed on as an Aprentice Tinker. He came ti Cleburne, Johnson County, Texas where he gardened, made sheet metal supplies like water tanks and troughs and deliverred them on his weekly route where he sold Watkins or Rawleigh products and took more orders for custom sheet metal work. We have reason to believe one of my wife's dad's half brothers was a Cleburne Texas barber and one ran a shoe factory in Boston Mr. Riley said before he died that an attorney had once contacted him about being an heir to the shoe factory and someons else had contacted him about the farm in Ireland. He told them he had his own West Texas land and a Central West Texas retirement home and if his dad had not bothered to tell him and his mother about their inheritance, he was not interested. Does this ring any Bells? I also know a building in Dublin, Ireland and one in \Glasgow, Scotland had our Wyly name carved in Stone over the door. My Great Grandad John Milton Moxley married Mary Ann Fleming, both Ireland born,or 1 generation removed, and Mary Ann's mom was Mary Murphy They are all buried in Indian Creek Cemetery, Erath County , Texas. . Some of his kids married aome Irish immigrants named Higdon, Arendell, and Darnell. Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. Dr. W.P. Hatchett's (he buried in Erath County) family were from Shrevesburg, England. One Hatchett was Burgess of Shrevesburg. Great Great Grand's mother Eliza Tuggle (Tugglestine) (Also buried in Erath County by his wive's parents, Rev. & Mrs Angelina Isabella Stevens) had roots in Jamestown, Va. from the Tarrant, Tuggle and Herndon families of Bradford, England, who made Navy uniforms for World wide export and Tarrant County, Texas is rooted in the same family. One built Christ Church in Bradford and donated it and land to the community. Does any of this ring any bells? Just courious Thanks, Charles Augustine Wyly On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:03 EST Arkivemom@aol.com writes: >Does anyone out there have access to the 1880 soundex for TX? I am in >Ireland >and need to find out which county either of the two following were in >in >1880:James Buchanan RICHARDSON, who would have been 35, and/or Henry >Clinton >RICHARDSON, who would have been 30. I just need the county. Any help >would be >most appreciated. >Charmaine Riley Holley >arkivemom@aol.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]