This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6EA347DD5ACF5FEDABA136F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D6EA347DD5ACF5FEDABA136F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <seawolf@selfroots.com> Delivered-To: cclenden@slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net Received: (qmail 18345 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 1999 13:31:22 -0000 Received: from mail3.uswest.net (204.147.80.19) by pop.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 1999 13:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19397 invoked by alias); 1 Mar 1999 13:24:44 -0000 Delivered-To: cclenden@slkc.uswest.net Received: (qmail 19381 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 1999 13:24:44 -0000 Received: from netra.glendale.cc.ca.us (204.115.170.10) by mail3.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 1999 13:24:44 -0000 Received: from bpeck (ppp-96-141.glendale.cc.ca.us [207.233.96.141]) by netra.glendale.cc.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA24800 for <cclenden@slkc.uswest.net>; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 05:22:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004d01be63e7$687beda0$8d60e9cf@bpeck> From: "Barbara Ann Peck" <seawolf@selfroots.com> To: <cclenden@slkc.uswest.net> Subject: Re: Welcome to Erath County! Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 05:28:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi, Carol! This is a wonderful account of your ancestry! Please post it to the list, and maybe someone can help. We have one subscriber, Charles Wyly, who knows everything about everyone in Erath County, and he may have a reply. If you haven't done so already, please contact the owners of the Erath County USGenWeb site and post your query there as well. Have a wonderful time, and good luck! Barbara seawolf@selfroots.com http://www.selfroots.com -----Original Message----- From: Carol Clendenin <cclenden@uswest.net> To: Barbara Ann Peck <seawolf@selfroots.com> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Welcome to Erath County! >Thanks Barbara, My line in Erath is Clendenin Dr. Charles Clendenin moved his >family to Lingleville sometime in the early 1900's with the purpose to >educating them probably at John Tarleton College. His wife Susan Amanda Dabbs >Clendenin died of Tb and is buried in Whitney Hill Co., Walling bend Cemetery. >Drucillah is reported to be buried there also. Charles died in 1908 in Ferris, >Ellis Co., Their Children were: Theodore Self Clendenin Born 1876 TN. He >taught school in Ferris Ellis Co until his death in 1926, Drucillah Elizabeth >"Lizzie" Clendenin 1878 TN. Md Henry Clay Latham probably in Erath Co. She >taught school, Comadore Rankin Clendenin 1879 TN md Flossie ? abt 1920 (help >on this would be much appreciated) John Seymore Clendenin 1881 TN Md Dollie L. >Carr probably in Erath 1907, Their son Ray and Wife Mary Joe Clendenin live in >Stephensville. Charles Elmore 1883 TN md Corrie Alomeda Price Killed in 1917 >in Victor by Mr. Moore. Joe Fletcher Clendenin 1887 TN Md Lorena James lived >in Gorman Eastland Co last child was born 1920 He left to work in the Oil >fields never returned (we suspect he died in a rig accident) Lorena died >shortly after and the 6 children were placed in the Gunther Orphans' Home. >(where ?) Cheslie Keener Clendenin 1890 TN. Md Ida Eastman (need marriage >info and birth of daughter). Luther Ashley 1892 TN md Zula Irene Nelson >Oriana, Stonewall, TX. moved to Kent Co., > NM.>Brownsville>CA. Frank Hamilton >Clendenin 1895 Mason? TX. Md unknown killed in train wreck outside of Ogden >Ut. Yr. ? Oscar Eliza Clendenin 1898 Bosque ? TX. Hurt in fall & had a >significant head injury died 1976 Austin . Obviously I have more questions >than answers. I would be grateful for any suggestions or help in finding the >answers Thanks Carol Clendenin > >Barbara Ann Peck wrote: > >> Hi, Carol! >> >> We're so happy that you've joined the Erath list. >> >> New people subscribe every day, and they will benefit greatly if >> you will post your ancestry on the list at regular intervals. >> >> Don't worry about sounding repetitive--your information will be new >> to many listmembers. >> >> Please feel free also to post anything else that you feel is relevant. >> Names, dates, Census records for your surname(s), anecdotes, history, etc. >> are always appreciated. >> >> If you change Internet Providers, please let us know your new address. >> Optionally, if you'd like to send your snail address in a private message, >> we will add it to our database along with your list(s) and ancestral >> line(s). >> >> And please feel free to contact us anytime. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Your listowners >> >> Barbara >> seawolf@selfroots.com >> Tim >> tim@selfroots.com >> http://www.selfroots.com > > > --------------D6EA347DD5ACF5FEDABA136F--

Am researching Walls family located in Erath Co in early 1900-1930. John Henry Walls was grandfather of my line.

You can go to Rootsweb.com to see if there are list for Jack and Wise Counties. Wanda

Does Wise County and Jack County have a mailing list like Erath County does? Ann

I am looking for any living relative of Florence N. FRY who married James Miller STEPHEN or her sister Julia Ann FRY who married Bates COX. I understand that both girls lived in Stephenville. Would love to get more information on these two girls. They are my Dad's first cousins. Lola

I have attended two Everton workshops. They are okay if you are just starting but otherwise a waste of time in my opion. You do get a free subscription of the Helper but you could pay for it with the money you pay to them. I attended free ones at the Memphis Library that were much better in my opion. Wanda

Hello........ Looking for the parents of Georgia Lorraine HULSEY b 1858 GA & her brother William HULSEY b 1863 TX. Father is Charles HULSEY b 1830/35 GA, mother unknown. Georgia Lorraine HULSEY married John Thomas Milner ECHOLS about 1873 & they lived in White Bead Hills, Pauls Valley, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory. In 1886 John ECHOLS killed a man at Stonewall & was subsequently executed at Ft Smith January of 1887. After this Georgia HULSEY ECHOLS moved with her children to Texas, place unknown. Children of John & Georgia ECHOLS are: Sarah Louisiana b 27 Nov 1874 Pauls Valley, IT William Charles Molly Minnie H. Any info regarding the parents of Georgia Lorraine HULSEY ECHOLS please contact: Maita L Fish Modesto, California fishmb@ainet.com

Conference In The States I had a question asked me on another list, so thought I would share with the many members of this list just for information purposes. >Question: >Has anyone attended any genealogy workshops/conferences or the like? I've >been looking for one, just out of curiosity, but I hate to throw money away- >can anyone tell me if they're worth it?? > I have been to 2 NGS (National Genealogy Society) Conferences over the years. One in Portland OR and one in Valley Forge PA. There is to be another one here in Richmond VA in May. I can tell you that I have enjoyed them very much and gotten information that has sent me in the right direction on my searches. The speakers are experienced and the lectures well prepared. I felt my money was well spent. You have a large selection of things to choose from and then get a syllabus on all the classes that were given and also can purchse vidio and/or audio tapes of the classes. The cost of traveling and motels can be expensive but, I for one will go everytime one is close enough to me or I can come up with the funds to attend. I went to a crochet conference in Atlanta last summer and went away shaking my head because of the lack of quality of the conference and the cost was high and lectures not well prepared. Now this is just MHO and I am not connected to the conference in anyway except that I will be attending. If you would like to know more about this conference you can go online to see about it. http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/conference/frame_states.html I can tell you right now the conference hotel is already booked at the special price for the conference but has rooms at the higher rate available. There are some other places near by that still had rooms a couple weeks ago. I will be staying at Holiday Inn Central (804) 359-9441(ext 560) 3207 North Blvd. Richmond VA. The price was about 70.00 per night and I can supply transporation to a couple folks if you stay there and we can work out times. It is about 15 minutes from the conference center. Right now a friend from MD and I are sharing a room. If you are interested contact me by personal email so we do not clog up the list. Phyllis Phyllis Garner Virginia Beach, VA sasilady@erols.com ^i^ I Believe In Angels ICQ #6544793 Cancer CrochetCrafts Angel Exchange Coordinator Aquisitions/Collections Coordinator on CL Newborns In Need Charity Work http://www.newbornsinneed.org/hamptonroadsva/

Sorry, I left some vital info out on my posting in trying to find out where in Erath Co. Grace Coffee is buried at (d. 1859). Her married name was Grace Turnbow (may have also spelled it Turnbough). Shawna jsmith00@flash.net

Hello, I am looking for the name of the cemetery that Grace "Gracie" Coffee is buried at. She died in 1859, and is supposed to be in an Erath County cemetery. Does anyone know? Thanks, Shawna jsmith00@flash.net

Does anyone have any information on the Jefferson Davis Moore family who lived in Lingleville around 1900-1924? Also, the William David Long family around the early 1900's. If there are any descendents to either of these families, would like to hear from you. These were my grandparents. Alice in Okla.

Does any one know where Bowman Bridge Cemetary is located? I was woundering if my gtgtgt grandmother was buried there,Rebecca Crane KEITH was married to George Stephan Keith he died in 1860 in Erath Co. Tx. I would appericate any information on both lines. Thank You, Peggy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

charles a Wyly wrote: > > Hi, > > I mentioned to you or someone about my Great Aunt Etta Robinson Moxley > and her cousin Lela Belcher Hurley telling me about Jesse James hiding > silver in Johnsville or Pony Creek and the efforts of some to find it. > Now , does this seem that ridicilious when we consider that John Crockett > of Pony Creek , Texas and Pizarro Post office area had ridden with > Quantril's Raiders and Jesse James was associated with them during the > Clvil War? > > Mr Crockett had gone to Old Mexico during Reconstruction abuses with > some of Quantril's Raiders. Some say some of Jese james's crew went to > Mexico with them and some visited Argentina or Brazil at that time. > > IF Jesse settled at Blevins, Texas or Grandbury, Texas or Grosebeck, > Texas why is it so amaxing he might have stopped in Pony Creek and > visited his friend from the Civil War, John Crockett ? He and or Crockett > could have later dug the silver up as needed. > > Going west from the Grady Perry (Three Way) store, the first draw going > north across U.S. 67 is Pony Creek or a branch of it. Over the next hill > is the Hurley branch of the Duffau, running South. . Most digging in > 1930'ds was on Duffau west of old Johnsville store and postoffice. on > old U,S, 67. The Three Way Store did not exist in Crockett's day. Aunt > Lela and "Aunt Lela" said the site was on a northwest slope of Pony > Creek, betewwn Box Church and school and the Three Way School. What you > bet it has been found? I doubt the finder would have publicized it. > > Any suggestions or other tales of this treasure and John Crockett and > Jesse James? > > Thanks, > Charles Wyly > Charles, I found your letter very interesting. I just read in JOHNSON COUNTY, TEXAS A PICTORIAL HISTORY Vol.I by Dan Leach and Billie Anne Leach, about Jessie and Frank James in Johnson Co. TX. Frank and Jessie often would go to Texas to hide out. One of the stories in the book is that "Jessie and Frank James had a sister they used to visit in Grayson County. In Johnson County the local Angel family legends held that the James boys hid in the barn behind their home near present day Lillian. The maiden name of the matriarch of the Angel family was James." Members of my family were Bushwackers from MO. They were cousins to my ancestor, Wm.Marchbanks, from Johnson Co, TX. Robert Marchbanks rode with Quantrill, and his brother William Marchbanks was a Capt. in the Confederate Army. Frank James rode with Quantrill, and Jessie rode with Bloody Bill Anderson. My grandfather William F.Emler, from TN and later from Johnson Co,TX told my father often that he had known Jessie James when he was a young man. The Marchbanks family were my grandmothers line. I am very interested in Quantrill as my husband and I are from Lawrence, KS. Phyl Vance -- Mailto:fvvpjv29@idt.net

Hi, I mentioned to you or someone about my Great Aunt Etta Robinson Moxley and her cousin Lela Belcher Hurley telling me about Jesse James hiding silver in Johnsville or Pony Creek and the efforts of some to find it. Now , does this seem that ridicilious when we consider that John Crockett of Pony Creek , Texas and Pizarro Post office area had ridden with Quantril's Raiders and Jesse James was associated with them during the Clvil War? Mr Crockett had gone to Old Mexico during Reconstruction abuses with some of Quantril's Raiders. Some say some of Jese james's crew went to Mexico with them and some visited Argentina or Brazil at that time. IF Jesse settled at Blevins, Texas or Grandbury, Texas or Grosebeck, Texas why is it so amaxing he might have stopped in Pony Creek and visited his friend from the Civil War, John Crockett ? He and or Crockett could have later dug the silver up as needed. Going west from the Grady Perry (Three Way) store, the first draw going north across U.S. 67 is Pony Creek or a branch of it. Over the next hill is the Hurley branch of the Duffau, running South. . Most digging in 1930'ds was on Duffau west of old Johnsville store and postoffice. on old U,S, 67. The Three Way Store did not exist in Crockett's day. Aunt Lela and "Aunt Lela" said the site was on a northwest slope of Pony Creek, betewwn Box Church and school and the Three Way School. What you bet it has been found? I doubt the finder would have publicized it. Any suggestions or other tales of this treasure and John Crockett and Jesse James? Thanks, Charles Wyly On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:40:37 -0600 "Michael Holland" <mai-holland@worldnet.att.net> writes: >Charles, you're incredible. No wonder the Erath site is a favorite. >Thanks for all your contributions. Keep up the good work! >I've learned more about Erath County history from you than from >years of research. I have four sets of grandparents in the >county, none of which you are related, but I learn the real >flavor of Texas from you each week. Thanks again for your >input. Michael Holland, Dallas, TX > >---------- >> From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> >> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TXPARKER-L] History book >> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 7:42 PM >> >> Hi, >> >> The Soundex is in the Waco- Mclennan County library, Geneaology >section. >> I haven't had time to use it recently. Brady Richardson attends our >> church in Hewitt and Richardson Creek in Erath County, a tributary >of >> the Paluxy River. Sid Richardson was a self made Texas oil >millionaire >> and left his estate with Corporate offices in Fort Worth, Texas >willed to >> his nephews, the Bass Brothers. Fort Worth is in 3 parts, North >Main, for >> example, runs from the Trinity River North. Main runs from the >Trinity >> south from the Courthouse seen on 'Walker, Texas Ranger"on tv, to >East >> Lancaster and the Railroad depot. From there south is South Main . >Other >> downtown streets are divided similarly. The Bass Brothers >corporations >> hire private security guards in uniform and disguise to supplement >City >> and County police in the downtown tourist area between the >Convention >> Center and the Courthouse, It is the safest downtown area in any >town in >> Texas , according to reports. >> >> Since you are in Ireland and are apparently a Riley, HELP! My >wife's >> grandad, James Whitcomb O'Riley died in Cleburne , Texas 1893 when >her >> dad Alvin Norman was about 6 years old. He was 43 or so. and was >married >> twice. , the second time to Alice Marie Renfro of Tennessee and >Johnson >> County, Texas. Jeannie's dad and his two sisters said Mr. O' Riley >was an >> Irish Catholic- red headed and freckled, just like 2 of his 3 second >set >> of kids. He lived on a farm in Ireland that raised prize race >horses. He >> was told to never ride, ESPECIALLY the Stalion when the family were >gone >> and he was home. One day, at age 12, he was jumping with the Stalion >and >> he fell and broke a lef. James did not want a Sheileigh threshing, >so, at >> age 12, he helpped the stalion to his stall, wrapped his leg, and >packed >> some sandwiches and clothes and stowed away in a lifeboat on an >outbound >> ship. Three days to sea he was seasick and gave himself up to the >Sea >> Captain ., who said he could work his way to the U.S. as many of the >crew >> were coming down sick. >> >> Since james was alone, he could not come through immigration with >> parents, so the Sea Captain carried him to a Tinker.s shop (for >sheet >> metal supplies and buckets and tubs for the ship) in New York and >James >> signed on as an Aprentice Tinker. He came ti Cleburne, Johnson >County, >> Texas where he gardened, made sheet metal supplies like water tanks >and >> troughs and deliverred them on his weekly route where he sold >Watkins or >> Rawleigh products and took more orders for custom sheet metal work. >> We have reason to believe one of my wife's dad's half brothers was a >> Cleburne Texas barber and one ran a shoe factory in Boston Mr. Riley >said >> before he died that an attorney had once contacted him about being >an >> heir to the shoe factory and someons else had contacted him about >the >> farm in Ireland. He told them he had his own West Texas land and a >> Central West Texas retirement home and if his dad had not bothered >to >> tell him and his mother about their inheritance, he was not >interested. >> >> Does this ring any Bells? >> >> I also know a building in Dublin, Ireland and one in \Glasgow, >Scotland >> had our Wyly name carved in Stone over the door. My Great Grandad >John >> Milton Moxley married Mary Ann Fleming, both Ireland born,or 1 >generation >> removed, and Mary Ann's mom was Mary Murphy They are all buried in >Indian >> Creek Cemetery, Erath County , Texas. >> . Some of his kids married aome Irish immigrants named Higdon, >Arendell, >> and Darnell. >> >> Great Grandad Dr. & Rev. Dr. W.P. Hatchett's (he buried in Erath >County) >> family were from Shrevesburg, England. One Hatchett was Burgess of >> Shrevesburg. Great Great Grand's mother Eliza Tuggle (Tugglestine) >(Also >> buried in Erath County by his wive's parents, Rev. & Mrs Angelina >> Isabella Stevens) had roots in Jamestown, Va. from the Tarrant, >Tuggle >> and Herndon families of Bradford, England, who made Navy uniforms >for >> World wide export and Tarrant County, Texas is rooted in the same >family. >> One built Christ Church in Bradford and donated it and land to the >> community. >> >> Does any of this ring any bells? Just courious >> >> Thanks, >> Charles Augustine Wyly >> >> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:53:03 EST Arkivemom@aol.com writes: >> >Does anyone out there have access to the 1880 soundex for TX? I am >in >> >Ireland >> >and need to find out which county either of the two following were >in >> >in >> >1880:James Buchanan RICHARDSON, who would have been 35, and/or >Henry >> >Clinton >> >RICHARDSON, who would have been 30. I just need the county. Any >help >> >would be >> >most appreciated. >> >Charmaine Riley Holley >> >arkivemom@aol.com >> > >> > >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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I have the same question about Johnson Ranch. Forgot to ask! Carol

Hi, I stand corrected. Just talked to my daughter who works at Scott & White Hospital in Temple, Texas and she said the families in Bynum, Hewitt, and West spelled their names Langford when she knew them at school. Bonnie was the school Secretary and kept tax records. Now I am not sure about the Stephenville Doctor- I know the pronouciation wasn't consistent, but I grew up around some tongue tied people, like I was in lower grades. Our speech specialist Doctor was Dr. Black in Gorman,Texas, but he would not clip my tongue.Age cures some things. . Dr. Aderholdt was also an Erath County Doctor and moved to West, where the Aderholdt Funeral Home was an established landmark when I taught there and since. Dr. Aderholdt's granddaughter now runs the Ridgecrest Retirement Complex on Hwy 6 in Woodway, between Lake Waco and Bosque Boulevard (Waco area). Pardon the slip Charles Wyly On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:35:10 -0600 "George Dysinger" <gmdysinger@email.msn.com> writes: >My great aunt was Jane McAdams. Jane was married twice, first time to >Mr. >Parks and the second time to Thomas McAdams. I know that Jane and >Thomas >were buried in Earth county. Would like to know something more of >their >children and grandchildren. I believe that their daughter Celia >married A. >E. Lanford, a doctor in Stephenville around 1900. Would like to know >more >of what happened to them. Jane was my great-great grandfather, John >Jefferson Poston's sister. > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, I thought the Doctor's name was Lankford or possibly Langford. Most people I knew called it Lankford, but you know how local pronouciations drop or add phonetic sounds. My family went to Dr. Naylor for medical and simple dental work. He owned the old Brick 2 story house between the courthouse and the City Park. We went to Vance Terrell for eye, ear, nose, & throat. He and brother Jim also did general surgery, He retired after my parents went to the Nursing home. Dr. Gokul took many of his patients, especially the Rest homes . Dr. Gokul was with mom when she died. Dr. Cedars had started her heart and treated a collapsed lung several years before that. Dr. Cedars could smell a bandage with certain medications and know if it needed changing or do not disturb . Grady Lankford of West runs West Bank & Trust of West and Hewitt . he married Margurite Lavender of Brandon and Waco- a music teacher. One of his kin lived in Bynum and he and his wife were employed by Bynum School. Margurit4e and Brother Clint of Bynum grew up in Ralls , Texas near Lubbock. Dr. Naylor was present at our Johnsville home on my first birthday, but I beat him there a few hours- Paved U.S.67 was not finished then . The old hwy ran in front of our house. from Valley Grove and turned at every fence corner post. Travellers used to stop at our windmill for fresh water (Including Rev. J.Frank Norris of Hubbard and Fort Worth) and we never locked the house. The only thing stolen was some bacon for a meal or so would be sliced off in the smokehouse and one small flock of turkeys. Mom and Mrs. Ned (Ida) Gristy sometimes served as midwives in the 1930's. Dad said when he went to get Dr. Naylor, one bridge was not finished and it was muddy, so to save time he backed the model .t ford up and gave it full throtle and bounce- jumped the bottom of the stream, saving an hour or two in the mud. Maybe this type driving was the reason so many farm boys were put in the Armored Cavalry in the Army. It was a way of life for tractor and mud road drivers. Hope this helps- am going from memory on these spellings. I stand corrected if i Goofed- have to teach in Waco the rest of the week. If I find info later that corrects the above, will check you later. Take care Charles Wyly On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:35:10 -0600 "George Dysinger" <gmdysinger@email.msn.com> writes: >My great aunt was Jane McAdams. Jane was married twice, first time to >Mr. >Parks and the second time to Thomas McAdams. I know that Jane and >Thomas >were buried in Earth county. Would like to know something more of >their >children and grandchildren. I believe that their daughter Celia >married A. >E. Lanford, a doctor in Stephenville around 1900. Would like to know >more >of what happened to them. Jane was my great-great grandfather, John >Jefferson Poston's sister. > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

My Wyly - I believe that a "shacked up" marriage has no limits on how long the parties are "shacked up", but whether or not they hold themselves out to others as being married and/or husband and wife. They can be together only 6 months and if they represent themselves as husband and wife, then upon dissolation of the marriage would divide the property accumulated during the marriage as community property. Ann Works Maynard

A bond is a written obligation between two or more parties. A marriage bond is a written obligation relating to marriage. The simplest marriage bond committed the prospective husband to marry the prospective wife and specified a certain sum as damages if he failed to do as promised. This avoided a breach of promise suit. If the bride's family liked the groom, the amount might be fairly nominal, or merely formal, like a marriage license today. More complex marriage bonds could detail property to be settled by the father of the bride upon the groom, or provide monetarily for the wife's expenses, etc. In short, they were antenuptial agreements. Since the development of modern family law, including divorce, alimony, and the right of a married woman to hold property in her own name (in those days, all her property became that of her husband upon marriage), the term "marriage bond" has come to mean simply the contract of marriage itself. David Salmon ----- Original Message ----- From: charles a Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] What are Marriage Bonds? >Hey, is this a loaded question or what? > >1. Marriage bonds could be the natural bonds that develop when two are >married. > >2. Marriage bonds could be pre nupital contracts to protect the >inheritance of children of a first mate. Now that one could get sticky >under the Community Property laws of Texas. > >3. To you Old Hippies who don't know what to do. an Arrangement or free >marriage >or shack up over 3 or so years is subject to divorce and community >property laws in Texas. Also, the philosophy that a scrap of paper means >nothing is some selfish person's attempt to share the privileges of >marriage without long term obligations to the children or mate- just dump >them and let the State raise them. You mean like Russia and Albania? >Deliver us from that. The Old Irish saying "If you want to dance, you >must pay the Fiddler". is pretty wise for a stable society. > >4. When Stephen F. Austin's Anglo and Black colonists( Yes , The yellow >Rose of Texas, a Cowboy and Texas History hero for spying on Gen. Santa >Anna with camp followers for Sam Houston) came into Spanish Texas, they >were required to do a token oath to support the Mexican Government and >the Catholic Church and be married in the Church. but Mexico supplied no >more Priests. At one time 80% of Mexican Priests were from Ireland. The >Colonsits held regular Bible studies in the Catholic Chapels, led by >themselves. They would stand 3 times in a Church gathering and announce >their plans for a formal marriage, when the Circuit Riding Priest came >around, if he lived that long. >These common law marriages were subject to the same divorce procedures >as a legal marriage. Sometimes 2 or 3 children took place in the formal >ceremony when and if the Priest made it. > >5. Could the contract be the one that a Protestant is asked to sign if he >marries a Catholic in the Church to raise all kids Catholic? My wife's >Tarleton Roommate. a Methodist, signed one written In Latin, at first, >which she could not read. If the marriage was not done in the Church, it >was not recognized by the church and was easily annulled, regardless of >children. > >Naturally the Anglos around Burr Ferry (AAron Burr's nephews) and East >Texas Indians or those of mixed heritage had their own customs as if >there were no Spanish. Crossing the Sabine was a regular procedure if one >State got too inquisitive. > >6, Also it could apply to proxy marriages of single Mormons , deceased. >If you run Family Tree Maker, some family pages from LDS library have a >place to check if they are now " sealed" for greater Eternal hope. > > 7. Sometimes Indian tribes had property exchange to arrange or seal a >marriage. > >Any other ideas? > >Charles Wyly >On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:08:35 -0600 "Phillip Maynard" <maynard@hti.net> >writes: >>Hi Everyone - >> >>The Erath County web site received the county web site of the month >>for >>Texas--a well deserved honor. The people who subscribe to this >>mailing >>list are the very best on any mailing list I subscribe. Always, >>helpful--no matter what subject and not a bunch of complainers and >>whiners. >> Now what are marriage bonds? >> >>Ann Works Maynard >>3814 Lake St. >>Houston, TX 77098 >>phone: 713/528-0682 >>e-mail: maynard@hti.net >> >> > >________________________________________________________________ >Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use >from Juno, the world's second largest online service. >Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. > >______________________________

Hi, I thought you or someone out there can reach the Waco- McLennan County library web site at www.waco-texas.com/library/. They have above average genealolgy section with soundex and Microfilm and computer cataloging. The first published tax roll , when the county was organized, was 1856. The Erath County- Cross Timbers Geneaolocical society newsletter is at Stephenville Public Library, 174 North Columbia Street, Stephenville , Texas 76401. Inventory of Erath County Records, Erath County Courthouse- compiled by Wm. Eugene Atkinson. , published by University of North Texas, Denton, Texas and Texas State Library, Austin, Texas as of 1975. I was dumbfounded to find I had more on Thurber, Texas than the Waco library, except for mention in various almanacs and State History books. They did have H. Grady Perry's "Good Old Erath". He was a Texas Congressman and a Hurley grandchild who ran the new Johnsville Store and sold International Harvester equipment from bankrupt dealers. Between that store and Pony Creek church is supposed to be some silver buried at the foot of an Oak tree by Jesse James , I think they said. When I was in Grade school one man had dug into a hill across the Duffau from the Johnsville Church of Christ. In 1936 this hole was as large as a box car or more. Great Aunt Etta Robinson Moxley and Lela Belcher Hurley told me the story. Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:56:11 -0600 "Frances M. Farley" <farleys@wf.net> writes: >Mr Wyly, > >I was told that my grandfather, Jacob Galik, helped with the >negotiations for the 1903 coal strike. Do you know were I could get >information on the strike? I believe the newspaper listed Grandpa as >Jack Garlick. > >Thank you.. >Frances Farley > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]