I am looking for the Whites in Alabama,Tx, OKla, and Ark.in 1840 to 1999 John Lecelle White m Eliza Ann Logan Dec 5 1882.. they had 11 children on of which was my grandfather Henry Alonzo White. He was born May 5 1884 m Osie Lee Stephens and they had 14 children and I have all the genealogy on them. Also Henry Elsberg White m 1 Eleanor Beason 2 B Sublette and Saffornia Woffard and they had five children. nancyr@elpasonet.net

My great aunt Lydia Irving Poston married Quincy Womack of Bosque county. They moved to west Texas after getting married and were married over 70 years at the time of my aunt's death. I was wondering if Mr. Wylie could tell something about Thomas McAdams of Selden and his family of 2 boys and 2 girls. I was recently at Selden and Pleasant Hill Methodist Church and had occasion to visit the Indian Creek Cemetary were Thomas, his wife Jane Poston, and Dan and David McAdams are all buried. GDysinger

Hi, it's me, old forgetful again. I forgot to tell you there are photos of Womack Church & hall, Hog Creek school with Kuykendall , Hatchett, Womack, I think, snd others. Many attended church at Searsville, the church Dr. Hatchett and Valley Mills members of Searsville Baptist Church who left and started the first Valley Mills Baptist Church on the east side of the Bosque, where the old town burned out and flooded. This church met under trees and in homes the first few years. The present Valley Mills Baptist Church apparently claims to be first with no connections to the old Congregation across the river, but most of the Present Valley Mills was built later after the present Highway 6 was built towards Dublin. The old mud, now paved road was on the East of the river from Waco to China Springs to Valley Mills to Meridian. Belle Starr had a cabin on the East of the river. Rosebushes are still there. Dr. Hatchett and "Choctaw" Bill Robinson were active in organizing the Central Texas Baptist Convention before there was a Texas Baptist organization. All this info is in the Bosque County History published in the last 20 years. The Harmony School is where dad taught 4 grades is in it and hew said all the first grade knew little English- just German or Norwegian. He went to farming the next year but always had fond memories of the area, between the Meridian State Park and Cranfil's Gap- Fairy road. Great Great Grandad performed marriages of his kids to several Wylys and a Kuykendall and possibly many others. . Rev. Hurley of Pony Creek refused to have formal fellowship with them. He was a Primitive Baptist. They differred over whether footwashing was one of the 3 church ordinaces, or a form of spontaneous outpouring of love and humility to fellow Chistians. Frontier Methodists had spontaneous footwashing, as do Episcopals today, on special occasions. . Perhaps, since Methodist and Baptist sometimes shared a building before building their own and alternated preachers, each picked up some habits from the other. The Bosque County History is in the library on the old campus of Clifton Junior College, a Lutheran school, now closed and used by the Sunset Residence and nursing home. Other libraries should have it if they have a Geneaology section. Happy Hunting, Charles Wyly On Sat, 8 May 1999 15:53:10 -0700 (PDT) womackin@webtv.net writes: >howdy listers, >my mom's family mostly located around dublin, erath co. texas...WOMACK >is my mom's surname, she was born in 1907 and is still living.. her >father was david leonardis WOMACK and her mother was minnie mable >STRACENER d/o john? henry STRACENER s/o benjamin STRACENER and nancy >j.KUYKENDALL.... i am looking for any documented info. on any/all of >these families...i have seen a book about barbee cemetery in >dublin, >erath co. tx..in which many of the STRACENERS are buried... i would be >most grateful for help on these ancestors..thank you.. >on the trail, >joeann >

Hi, there, Can tell you where to look - I am familiar with most of these last names. STRACENER- seems one teaches in Waco now. Will check closer on this one. WOMACK- there is a community site, , a Lutheran Church, and Womack Hall between Whitney, Texas and Clifton, Texas in Bosque County. I have taught with and known several Womacks from Bosque County and Waco. There seems to have been a pattern of movement of families from Waco to Bosque County to Hico, Hamilton County , Dublin, and Albany and beyoond due to the early Texas Central Railroad (Became Katy, not the I&Gn or "Tin Can" Railroad). The other route was Texas Highway 6 which followed the Bosque River to Hico and Green's Creek to Dublin. Womack Hall wedding and other dances were popular in my teen years due to Erath County and Hill and Bosque counties being dry counties for liquor, but Womack and West across the river had wet Precincts and church halls served keg beer. I never attended one at Womack, but have been by the place many times going to Lake Whitney. These were German, some Norwegian. Most Norwegians stayed in the Bosque and tributaries bottoms at first for rich bottom land. The Germans had connections in Hico, Hamilton, Aleman, West, Malone, and Purdon. Some of these were children of Carolina Germans and others of New Braunfels, Texas Germans who followed Prince Solms- Braunfels after the Aborptive Revolution in Germany to Fayette County then Fredricksburg, Malone, Sisterdale, Boerne,Oeinaville, Taylor, Kerrville. and all in between, even to Pep, West, Texas and Munster, North Texas. Also Brenham and Bremond and Kaufman County and Lohn,- Brady area. , . Thank goodness for the "Little Creamery in Brenham" and Blue Bell Ice Cream. The Sons of Hermann Lodge owned a farm in Fayette County, Texas where German immigrants could live and stay to pay for passage from Germany and then moved inward. The point of Immigration was Indianola, a deep water port which has sunk several feet. The old courthouse is visible to fishermen on a clear still day. The lodge kept immigration records to early Texas, I was told. KUYKENDALL - (pronounced Kirkendall for your soundex research) families were very active in the Texas Revolution and the war with Mexico in 1845. The most prominent families moved to the Clifton area. One Kuykendall married my Great Grandmother Ella Hatchett's sister in Bosque County, where her dad, Dr. & Rev. . William Pinckney Hatchett had organized churches in Gonzales, then in the Bosque Valley in Valley Mills, Iredell, Hico, Pony Creek, and others- 17 in all. He was in the Rangers with Kuykendalls when they saved Gen. Taylor from slaughter in Mexico. They once ran the Kuykendall Land and Cattle Company in Clifton and drove, & later by RR and more recently by Diesel Truck, they would move cattle from summer to winter pastures. They winterred in Central Texas and sumerred the cattle in Wyoming, depending on rain and weather. Dad said they were Norwegian. I knew several Howard and Stephens and Stevens and Stephen families in Erath County. Have reported on most of them in recent months. Don't confuse the Stephens families with the Stephen Family that Stephenville was named for nor the Stevens family , Dr. Hatchett's In- laws. and on the Kuykendall family tree. Rev. B. T. Stevens and wife are buried in the Selden or Hatchett Cemetery , on the Duffau Creek north of Duffau. He was my great Grandmother Ella Hatchett Wyly's grandfather and a grandfather of some Kuykendalls. He was from Pine Mountain (Shipley), Georgia near present Calloway Gardens on tv.Great Grandmother attended Hog Creek Creek 2 story rock school between McGregor and Valley Mills and Cranfils Gap.Kuykendalls also attended there. I have photos of them by the school. Records of the land and taxes were in Fannin County, then Cameron County. After Waco & McLennan County was organized, the Erath County records were kept there until Bosque County was organized, so some Dublin land and tax records wete in Waco and Meridian before the Bosque County judge and Neil McLennan, founder of McLennan County, organized Erath County at the request of the State legislature. The first abstract of our family land in Selden, Erath County, shows McLennan and Bosque County listings before Erath County Milam County is listed first. The Texas State Library in Austin and the University of North Texas State University in Denton should also have them. They are on line. Don't overlook the LDS - Latter Day Saints- Mormon records from the Salt Lake City library you can download on these families & pay with credit card # or go to the nearest Mormon Stake or church and they will usually be on line if they have a library at all. . Very few families are not recorded there, regardless of their religion. Sometimes their number of kids don't match some families researched elsewhere, but they are a good starting place. A Dallas researcher said he had found 3 families , dad in Mecklenburg Co. had same first and last names and one LDS record showed most of the kids in one man's charts. Will check my Hatchett records for more on Kuykendalls & see you later if I find something. Happy hunting Charles Wyly On Sat, 8 May 1999 15:53:10 -0700 (PDT) womackin@webtv.net writes: >howdy listers, >my mom's family mostly located around dublin, erath co. texas...WOMACK >is my mom's surname, she was born in 1907 and is still living.. her >father was david leonardis WOMACK and her mother was minnie mable >STRACENER d/o john? henry STRACENER s/o benjamin STRACENER and nancy >j.KUYKENDALL.... i am looking for any documented info. on any/all of >these families...i have seen a book about barbee cemetery in >dublin, >erath co. tx..in which many of the STRACENERS are buried... i would be >most grateful for help on these ancestors..thank you.. >on the trail, >joeann >

howdy listers, my mom's family mostly located around dublin, erath co. texas...WOMACK is my mom's surname, she was born in 1907 and is still living.. her father was david leonardis WOMACK and her mother was minnie mable STRACENER d/o john? henry STRACENER s/o benjamin STRACENER and nancy j.KUYKENDALL.... i am looking for any documented info. on any/all of these families...i have seen a book about barbee cemetery in dublin, erath co. tx..in which many of the STRACENERS are buried... i would be most grateful for help on these ancestors..thank you.. on the trail, joeann

You came through here. Charles On Wed, 5 May 1999 16:20:12 EDT KLPaints@aol.com writes: >wondering if I have been bumped...... this is a test. Sorry, Karen >

Hi, two suggestions, 1. There are several Owens kids in Waco. I taught one. 2. Have you checked the Weldon Owens of Dallas area who makes Owens Country Sausage and has a few restaurants with the same name?? He also has large hog farms in the Carolinas. Sincerely, Charles Wyly On Wed, 5 May 1999 18:01:49 -0500 "Paul Underwood" <pdu@moment.net> writes: >Searching for anyone having any information relating to Silas S. >Owens' ancestors. He was born somewhere in Tennessee on December 30, >1841 and later moved to Texas and settled in Erath and Commanche >counties. He married a Rebecca Edwards. > >He died on August 25, 1916 in Hill County, Texas. > >

Searching for anyone having any information relating to Silas S. Owens' ancestors. He was born somewhere in Tennessee on December 30, 1841 and later moved to Texas and settled in Erath and Commanche counties. He married a Rebecca Edwards. He died on August 25, 1916 in Hill County, Texas.

wondering if I have been bumped...... this is a test. Sorry, Karen

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Representative West: May 3, 1999 Dear Sir: Many of the persons like myself are very alarmed that HB No. 836 would in fact close open records now available to family historians like myself following passage of this proposed bill. I would urge that this bill be tabled if not outright defeated as the effect of this would be to place a restrictive burden on genealogy and family history efforts. Sincerely, Bill L. McCarty 2615 Buchanan Avenue Odessa, Texas 79763 (915)-337-4732 E-mail: Texasdog@aol.com

I'm looking for any information on Emma Leticia Grantham 11-26-1867 to 4-11-1949. She was the daughter of Jesse Richardson Grantham and Susan Adeline (Parks) Grantham. She married Andy Durham, 9-3-1884. I know that Andy and Emma Leticia were living in Dublin in Sept. 1903 from an obituary. After that, I have no idea what happened to them. Also, her sister Mary Etta was living in Stephenville in Sept. 1903. I've included what little I know about her below. Descendants of Mary Etta Grantham Generation No. 1 1. MARY ETTA7 GRANTHAM (JESSE RICHARDSON6, WILLIAM M.5, WILLIAM4, JOHN3, EDWARD2, EDWARD1) was born February 28, 1876 in Near Whitney; Hill; TX, and died March 17, 1964 in Burlingame; San Mateo; CA. She married JOHN BURDINE COLEMAN June 07, 1891. Children of MARY GRANTHAM and JOHN COLEMAN are: i. RICHARD BOYD8 COLEMAN, b. August 03; m. EVERLY MOORE. ii. ADDIE BELL COLEMAN, b. July 21, 1892, Boggy; Bosque; TX; m. THOMAS PIERCE. iii. JOHN BURDINE COLEMAN, JR., b. November 1894; d. February 27, 1895. iv. VIRGINIA COLEMAN, b. March 24, 1900, Dublin; Erath; TX; m. JOHN LILLIC. v. FRANKIE HARRISON COLEMAN, b. April 11, 1909, Meridian; Bosque; TX; m. CECIL HUGGINS. vi. JOSEPHENE COLEMAN, b. November 09, 1912, Meridian; Bosque; TX; m. HARVEY L. GRAY. My grandfather, William Bryan Grantham. was born 4-17-1899 at Ednahill in Erath Co. According to my grandmother, his parents Ira R. "Bud" (brother to the above Emma Leticia and Mary Etta) and Nancy Ella (Walling) Grantham lived near the Barbee Cemetery where Nancy Ella's mother, Eleanor Stone (Hardy) Walling is buried. The Wallings were related to the Hammons and Gilbreaths through marriage. I'm about to publish a book on the Granthams and would sure be nice if I could track down this family. I have some pictures of the Granthams (some are unidentified) on my website under Potos From Grandma's Trunk. Thanks, Susan www.geocities.com/~susanblackmon

List Owners; I read somewhere that there was a genealogy conference in Plano sometime this summer. If anyone can give me information or at least point me in the right direction, I would be very appreciative. To prevent a hundred replies, would the list owners only reply. Thank you. DeWayne Wallace

You might wish to read the article in the online version of The Handbook of Texas, located at this address, for some history of the hospital: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/ (Search on Austin State Hospital) Here's the Austin State Hospital homepage: http://www.mhmr.state.tx.us/ashhrs/default.htm In addition, I found that the reference and documents section of the Texas State Library and Archives Commission (located in Austin) has a file on the Austin State Hospital in its vertical files. These vertical files must be viewed in person in Austin, apparently. The index I found gave no indication of what is in the file for the hospital, but I doubt that there are any patient records. I also found a book about the hospital. It is entitled Life at the Texas State Lunatic Asylum, 1857-1997 and is by Sarah C. Sitton. It sells for 34.95 (ouch). It's listed with www.amazon.com or you can go here for more info: http://www.tamu.edu/upress/books/1999/sitton.htm I suppose you could call, write or fax the Austin State Hospital and ask about old records. Here's the contact info: Austin State Hospital 4110 Guadalupe St., Austin, TX 78751 Phone: 512/452-0381 Fax: 512/323-6150 Good luck! Brit Ferguson (Also in Stephenville TX) -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Tate <ktate@geocities.com> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:03 PM Subject: [ERATH] state asylum >Does anyone know anything about the Texas State Asylum that was in >Austin in the early 1900's? And, if so, where can I find information >about it? > >Also, I always thought the old (1902 or so) "lunacy" records were public >documents but was recently told I had to have a court order to look at >those. Is that right? > >Thanks, >Kathy Tate >Stephenville, TX >

Does anyone know anything about the Texas State Asylum that was in Austin in the early 1900's? And, if so, where can I find information about it? Also, I always thought the old (1902 or so) "lunacy" records were public documents but was recently told I had to have a court order to look at those. Is that right? Thanks, Kathy Tate Stephenville, TX

Hello, I just wanted to let everyone know we have the first 8 pages of the 1870 Hood Co, TX census up at CENSUS ONLINE: http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm The census has 65 pages and we will be adding these very quickly. Happy Searchin' Brenda -- GENEALOGY = always meant to be shared! Always digging up SMELSER / WALDROP / WALDROUP / ROBERTS/ / LOOPER / LUPER / STARKEY / WALKER / HALEY / TATMAN and HOUSE Visit my web sites! Lots of databases online! CENSUS ONLINE: http://www.imagin.net/~tracers/census1.htm Visit our Smelser/Smeltzer homepage http://members.tripod.com/tracers

Could someone help me with a marriage record lookup? The date would be somewhere between April of 1900 and April of 1903. The groom's name was Leollin Lafayette (may have been listed as L.L. or L.O.L.) Jones, and the bride was Mary Frances (Fannie/Fanny) Thompson. I would very much appreciate help with this. I am not sure they were married in Erath County, but all clues lead in that direction. Nancy Harwood Houston, TX

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I have seen the name WOOLLEY mentioned several times. Does anyone know if any of the following lived in Erath Co.? CORA LAVIN WOOLEY b. Dec 17 1886 EMMA DAVIS WOOLEY b. 1890 ZOA EZULA WOOLLEY b. 1893 OLIVER CRUTCHFIELD WOOLLEY b. 1898 Does anyone know the name of the WOOLLEY who first settled in Erath Co. Claudia Yeager Cowley

Dr. Anthony E. Langford married Celia McAdams in Stephenville about 100 years ago. They had at least one child, Celia Ernestine Langford who was born in 1908 and died in 1968. I was wondering if anyone knew if she married and had children. GDysinger