I'm a newbie on this list. My surname interests, at this time, are listed in my sig. If you see anything of interest, let me know. My email is also in my sig. Tonya Aultman-Harris mtharris@ev1.net Researching: Aultman (AR, TX, MS),Cox (TX, OK), Parker (LA, TX), Peyton (MS)

I'm looking for anyone, :-), that knows how this cemetery got it's name. It's just outside of Carlton. It's an old cemetery that is all grown up. Did someone by the name of Altman donate the land for the cemetery? Any and all replies are welcome. Tonya Aultman-Harris mtharris@ev1.net Researching: Aultman (AR, TX, MS),Cox (TX, OK), Parker (LA, TX), Peyton (MS)

I was just in Dublin yesterday and learned of the death of the Dr. Pepper plant operater for the past many years. Oh yes, I have been chewing-the-rag with ole Truett. Seems like a really nice guy----understand he is an friend of your. just wanted to say that I was in Dublin and to say hello to you. Tommy Dunn trupenny@door.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Texasdog@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 7:51 AM Subject: [ERATH] Nix families of Erath--Today's obits from Wichita Falls T-RN > Nadine Clanahan > > OLNEY, Texas - Nadine Clanahan, 80, of Fort Worth died Thursday, Sept. 30, > 1999, in Fort Worth. > Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Lunn Funeral Home with the Rev. Calvin > Beach of Dallas officiating. Burial will be in Restland Cemetery. > Mrs. Clanahan was born Feb. 3, 1919, in Erath County, Texas. She and Leon > Clanahan were married Dec. 31, 1944, in Olney. He died July 3, 1988. She was > a member of First Baptist Church in Rising Star. She was a homemaker and a > resident of Tokio, Texas, for 36 years. She had lived in Rising Star, Texas, > and Abilene, Texas. She moved from Granbury, Texas, to Fort Worth in 1995. > Her daughter, Nancy Clanahan, died May 24, 1990. > Survivors include three daughters, Mary of Granbury, Helen of Abilene and > Bonnie Earnest of Plains, Texas; three sisters, Phebie Branch of Olney, Wanda > Battey of Victoria, Texas; a brother, Albert C. Nix of Richland, Wash.; three > grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren. > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

Nadine Clanahan OLNEY, Texas - Nadine Clanahan, 80, of Fort Worth died Thursday, Sept. 30, 1999, in Fort Worth. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Lunn Funeral Home with the Rev. Calvin Beach of Dallas officiating. Burial will be in Restland Cemetery. Mrs. Clanahan was born Feb. 3, 1919, in Erath County, Texas. She and Leon Clanahan were married Dec. 31, 1944, in Olney. He died July 3, 1988. She was a member of First Baptist Church in Rising Star. She was a homemaker and a resident of Tokio, Texas, for 36 years. She had lived in Rising Star, Texas, and Abilene, Texas. She moved from Granbury, Texas, to Fort Worth in 1995. Her daughter, Nancy Clanahan, died May 24, 1990. Survivors include three daughters, Mary of Granbury, Helen of Abilene and Bonnie Earnest of Plains, Texas; three sisters, Phebie Branch of Olney, Wanda Battey of Victoria, Texas; a brother, Albert C. Nix of Richland, Wash.; three grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren.

I have coxes and I would love to come to reunion.......Coxes and Harvey and cooke married and the Harvey reunion was in Clairette..............Get in touch with charles Wylie and he can tell you where it is........ Jane Lemmons nee glenn txjane@ktc.com -----Original Message----- From: DeWayne Wallace <dewayne@apex2000.net> To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 8:17 PM Subject: [ERATH] Coxes on this list >Dear Listers: > >If there are any Coxes on this list, I would like to visit with you. Please respond to my email rather than the list. > >Also there used to be a Cox reunion held at the Johnsville cemetery. Does anyone in Erath Co. know something about it or where I can reach someone who would know. > >Thanks for your assistance. > >DeWayne Wallace >dewayne@apex2000.net > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

Hi, sorry if I have repeated this before, but Paul Killion married Balma Gristy, both about 15-20 years older than me. We farmed the Ned and Ida Head Gristy place in Johnsville during WW2. He died rather young and Balma re married Homer Davis. You mentioned the Mills family. Was this the same family as Marion Mills of Johnsville who married Minnie Little of Johnsville? Most of their sons worked for dad in seasonal farm work at one time or another. One of Marion Sr.'s sons now runs the Mills Construction Company and is now doing a new lake near the Bosque - possibly on it, for either the City of Clifton or Meridian- both have similar projects since Waco pulled of the proposed Lake Bosque. A brother to the one who has the Construction Company is now a Texas Highway Patrolman in Hamilton, Texas. Their mom was Marilyn Giesekie Mills Ewers who gatherred the Three Way School District History for their PTA project. Their dad used do work for my dad and Marilyn assisted mom in cooking for thresher crews of 25 to 30 men. In case you think the small schools are dead, Three Way Common School District with a gym and several buildings for elementary school grades is doing fine. They have earned the rating of an Exempleary School under the Texas Education Agency rating system.Their High School students attend Hico Schools. When I rode Oscar Parham's contract school bus to Stephenville High, it was about 55 miles to the back of the route north and east of Chalk Mountain and doubling down gravel roads. (Not sure if that was one way or round trip, but he made it round trip twice a day for many years. ) Also, 200 years ago in Laurens District, South Carolina, mom's ancestors included the Copeland and Hipp families of Clinton , Greer, and Greenville. One was named POLLY MILLS COPELAND.(SCOTTISH) I wonder about that connection, but haven't had time to chase that rabbit. Cousins of theirs in Huricane Baptist And Duncan Creek Presbyterian cemeteries are DILLARD, HIPP( Moravian German), VAUGHN-VAUGHAN, NABORS-NEIGHBORS Jim Neighbors Ancestors and Newbury , S.C. is just down the road). (In both cases the last two pair of names had the same common ancestor and one spelling is on individual graves overshaddowed by a larger family marker with the other spelling). Also included are WHITE cousins. COPELANDS and their kin fought in The Revolutionary War and the Civil War and family members died in each war. They just woke and looked outside and the war was in their back yards, so to speak. A few hundred of the descendants of those in these two cemeteries still live there, in Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas and other points- possibly a few thousand. living today. Take care, Charles Wyly On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:01:57 -0500 "HOMER M SIMMONS" <PETESIMMONS@prodigy.net> writes: >James M Killion b Apr 13, 1829, Blount Co., AL (son of John Anderson >Killion and Nancy (Moore) Killion) was buried in Aug 1915 in Valley >Grove Cemetery, Stephenville, Erath Co. His first wife was Elizabeth >Palmer, daughter of Samuel M. Palmer and Susanne Wideman. Elizabeth >died >before 1888 but no other information known on her. > >James M Killion and Elizabeth (Palmer) Killion had the following >children: >Benjamin Franklin, Jack A., William Fulton, Samuel M, James Marion, >Sarah J (married first George Herricks and second ? Chenault), >Elizabeth >C (died age 4), and Henry Marshall. > >James M Killion secondly married Eliza Lucinda (Lindsey) Mills (b MS >in >1830). Eliza had the following children from her first marriage to >John >Mills: Nancy Ann, Henry H, Thomas C and two others. >This second marriage for both produced the following: Martha C >(married >J.D. Fenley), Gibson Gaston and Henrietta Rebecca (married William >Alonzo Thompson--son of M. A. (Evans) and stepson of Charles Starley >of >Duffau). > >I am interested in communicating with anyone who has an interest or >knowledge in any of the above names. > >Pete Simmons > >PS--I too am enjoying VERY MUCH the history remembered by Charles >Wyly. > > > > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Thanks Jo I didn't see any that are familiar Dr Charles E. Clendenin brought his family to Texas in abt 1893-95 they came from Perry County Tennessee, Charles' father was Theodore C. Clendenin of Lawrence Co Tn. a son of Charles of Orange Co NC. I have a number of the branches of Charles of Oranges' family. I would be glad to send you an outline of his decendents. In my research I have seen a Clendennen family in Comanche county that has the same spelling. I'm not sure who they married. Sorry. Carol Clendenin jmautrey wrote: > Hi Carrol, > > Do you have any Clendenin's married to any Beasley's? I have some > Clendenin's in my family. Please check my web site and see if any of the > names are familiar to you. > I also have some Beasley marriage certificates on the site under Marriage > Certificate Collection if you are interested. There are some Beasley > Pioneer letters which mentions the Clendenin family if you care to read > them, there are 3. > > If you find a connection, please contact me. I'm glad you posted to the > list this information. > > Jo Autrey > jmautrey@email.msn.com > Jo's Front Porch and Genealogy > http://members.tripod.com/~JoMAutrey > Bowie County Texas and Genealogy > Join us atTexasChat E-Mail List > TexasChat-subscribe@onelist.com > http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/index.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: cclendenin <cclenden@uswest.net> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:04 AM > Subject: [ERATH] Clendenin Family abt 1900 > > > Charles Clendenin, a Physcian moved his family to Erath County around > > 1900 and settled near Lingleville. they had a passel of kids (my great > > uncles and aunt). I would like to introduce each to the list, by what I > > have. And seek answers from the list about questions I still have > > unanswered. or direction on where I might go to find the answers I seek. > > > > let me start with the most difficult and challenging one. > > Joseph Fletcher Clendenin md Lorena James don't know the year they had > > 1. J. C. May have died as an infant > > 2. Jessie Loyd Dec 1911 > > 3. Chester Doyal May 1913 > > 4. Anna Lucille Nov 1915 > > 5. Oma Lorena May 1917 > > 6. Bertha Mae June 1918 > > 7. Royce Earl Oct 1920 > > Joe as he was called, left his family ( I would guess during the > > depression) to work in the oil fields. He never returned. At the time > > there was said to have been a big rig accident in which several men were > > killed. The family did not have to money to go check it out; so it > > remains a mystery. There are two stories from this point 1. Lorena > > sicked , died and the children were placed in the Gunther Orphans home. > > 2. Lorena could not care for the children so placed them in the Gunther > > Orphans home and work there to help pay for their keep. Regardles, It > > has left a number of Questions. > > 1. Does anyone remember a Oil field accident that would have occured > > between 1925 to the mid 1930's where men were killed. and would have > > been probably outside the county.?? > > 2. Where is the Gunther Orphans home, or could it be Gunter in Eastland > > Co??? > > Is it still in exhistance or where Might I find records. > > The only resource is Aunts who remember parts of the saga. but little > > specifics to tag onto, and the children have all passed on. > > Thank you all for your time > > I will post the individual members of this family so you won't be over > > whelmed. Thanks again Carol Clendenin > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com

Henry E m 1 Eleanor Beason 2 B Sublette child John L White b 1860 m Eliza Ann Logan Henry White m Osie Stephens 14 children Emma Bell Tabitha Elizabeth Barney Sinclair John Russell Homer DEWitt Zelma Aura Matie Pearl m DeGrange Louis Earl Minnnie Lee m 1 Louis Corneilus 2 Carl Stath Lillie May m C. G. Gregory

Charles Clendenin, a Physcian moved his family to Erath County around 1900 and settled near Lingleville. they had a passel of kids (my great uncles and aunt). I would like to introduce each to the list, by what I have. And seek answers from the list about questions I still have unanswered. or direction on where I might go to find the answers I seek. let me start with the most difficult and challenging one. Joseph Fletcher Clendenin md Lorena James don't know the year they had 1. J. C. May have died as an infant 2. Jessie Loyd Dec 1911 3. Chester Doyal May 1913 4. Anna Lucille Nov 1915 5. Oma Lorena May 1917 6. Bertha Mae June 1918 7. Royce Earl Oct 1920 Joe as he was called, left his family ( I would guess during the depression) to work in the oil fields. He never returned. At the time there was said to have been a big rig accident in which several men were killed. The family did not have to money to go check it out; so it remains a mystery. There are two stories from this point 1. Lorena sicked , died and the children were placed in the Gunther Orphans home. 2. Lorena could not care for the children so placed them in the Gunther Orphans home and work there to help pay for their keep. Regardles, It has left a number of Questions. 1. Does anyone remember a Oil field accident that would have occured between 1925 to the mid 1930's where men were killed. and would have been probably outside the county.?? 2. Where is the Gunther Orphans home, or could it be Gunter in Eastland Co??? Is it still in exhistance or where Might I find records. The only resource is Aunts who remember parts of the saga. but little specifics to tag onto, and the children have all passed on. Thank you all for your time I will post the individual members of this family so you won't be over whelmed. Thanks again Carol Clendenin

Thanks, I don't know anyone researching this branch but keep looking.:) Jo A. ----- Original Message ----- From: cclendenin <cclenden@uswest.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 4:20 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Clendenin Family abt 1900 > Thanks Jo I didn't see any that are familiar Dr Charles E. Clendenin brought > his family to Texas in abt 1893-95 they came from Perry County Tennessee, > Charles' father was Theodore C. Clendenin of Lawrence Co Tn. a son of Charles > of Orange Co NC. I have a number of the branches of Charles of Oranges' > family. I would be glad to send you an outline of his decendents. In my > research I have seen a Clendennen family in Comanche county that has the same > spelling. I'm not sure who they married. Sorry. Carol Clendenin > > jmautrey wrote: > > > Hi Carrol, > > > > Do you have any Clendenin's married to any Beasley's? I have some > > Clendenin's in my family. Please check my web site and see if any of the > > names are familiar to you. > > I also have some Beasley marriage certificates on the site under Marriage > > Certificate Collection if you are interested. There are some Beasley > > Pioneer letters which mentions the Clendenin family if you care to read > > them, there are 3. > > > > If you find a connection, please contact me. I'm glad you posted to the > > list this information. > > > > Jo Autrey > > jmautrey@email.msn.com > > Jo's Front Porch and Genealogy > > http://members.tripod.com/~JoMAutrey > > Bowie County Texas and Genealogy > > Join us atTexasChat E-Mail List > > TexasChat-subscribe@onelist.com > > http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/index.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: cclendenin <cclenden@uswest.net> > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:04 AM > > Subject: [ERATH] Clendenin Family abt 1900 > > > > > Charles Clendenin, a Physcian moved his family to Erath County around > > > 1900 and settled near Lingleville. they had a passel of kids (my great > > > uncles and aunt). I would like to introduce each to the list, by what I > > > have. And seek answers from the list about questions I still have > > > unanswered. or direction on where I might go to find the answers I seek. > > > > > > let me start with the most difficult and challenging one. > > > Joseph Fletcher Clendenin md Lorena James don't know the year they had > > > 1. J. C. May have died as an infant > > > 2. Jessie Loyd Dec 1911 > > > 3. Chester Doyal May 1913 > > > 4. Anna Lucille Nov 1915 > > > 5. Oma Lorena May 1917 > > > 6. Bertha Mae June 1918 > > > 7. Royce Earl Oct 1920 > > > Joe as he was called, left his family ( I would guess during the > > > depression) to work in the oil fields. He never returned. At the time > > > there was said to have been a big rig accident in which several men were > > > killed. The family did not have to money to go check it out; so it > > > remains a mystery. There are two stories from this point 1. Lorena > > > sicked , died and the children were placed in the Gunther Orphans home. > > > 2. Lorena could not care for the children so placed them in the Gunther > > > Orphans home and work there to help pay for their keep. Regardles, It > > > has left a number of Questions. > > > 1. Does anyone remember a Oil field accident that would have occured > > > between 1925 to the mid 1930's where men were killed. and would have > > > been probably outside the county.?? > > > 2. Where is the Gunther Orphans home, or could it be Gunter in Eastland > > > Co??? > > > Is it still in exhistance or where Might I find records. > > > The only resource is Aunts who remember parts of the saga. but little > > > specifics to tag onto, and the children have all passed on. > > > Thank you all for your time > > > I will post the individual members of this family so you won't be over > > > whelmed. Thanks again Carol Clendenin > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Hi Carrol, Do you have any Clendenin's married to any Beasley's? I have some Clendenin's in my family. Please check my web site and see if any of the names are familiar to you. I also have some Beasley marriage certificates on the site under Marriage Certificate Collection if you are interested. There are some Beasley Pioneer letters which mentions the Clendenin family if you care to read them, there are 3. If you find a connection, please contact me. I'm glad you posted to the list this information. Jo Autrey jmautrey@email.msn.com Jo's Front Porch and Genealogy http://members.tripod.com/~JoMAutrey Bowie County Texas and Genealogy Join us atTexasChat E-Mail List TexasChat-subscribe@onelist.com http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: cclendenin <cclenden@uswest.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 3:04 AM Subject: [ERATH] Clendenin Family abt 1900 > Charles Clendenin, a Physcian moved his family to Erath County around > 1900 and settled near Lingleville. they had a passel of kids (my great > uncles and aunt). I would like to introduce each to the list, by what I > have. And seek answers from the list about questions I still have > unanswered. or direction on where I might go to find the answers I seek. > > let me start with the most difficult and challenging one. > Joseph Fletcher Clendenin md Lorena James don't know the year they had > 1. J. C. May have died as an infant > 2. Jessie Loyd Dec 1911 > 3. Chester Doyal May 1913 > 4. Anna Lucille Nov 1915 > 5. Oma Lorena May 1917 > 6. Bertha Mae June 1918 > 7. Royce Earl Oct 1920 > Joe as he was called, left his family ( I would guess during the > depression) to work in the oil fields. He never returned. At the time > there was said to have been a big rig accident in which several men were > killed. The family did not have to money to go check it out; so it > remains a mystery. There are two stories from this point 1. Lorena > sicked , died and the children were placed in the Gunther Orphans home. > 2. Lorena could not care for the children so placed them in the Gunther > Orphans home and work there to help pay for their keep. Regardles, It > has left a number of Questions. > 1. Does anyone remember a Oil field accident that would have occured > between 1925 to the mid 1930's where men were killed. and would have > been probably outside the county.?? > 2. Where is the Gunther Orphans home, or could it be Gunter in Eastland > Co??? > Is it still in exhistance or where Might I find records. > The only resource is Aunts who remember parts of the saga. but little > specifics to tag onto, and the children have all passed on. > Thank you all for your time > I will post the individual members of this family so you won't be over > whelmed. Thanks again Carol Clendenin > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

No, sorry Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Fmlyrscher@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Purves Live Oak Cemetery > Peggy: > > Are there any TROUT (TROUTT/TROTT) in Purves Live Oak Cemetery? > > Thanks for your offer and time. > > Betty Fenton > RCFBCF@aol.com > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Wow I did not know this. The Harveys are on my GrandMothers side, but I have worked on my Grandfathers Nash here. Of course they were in the same area of MS so logic would say some of the family could have been in same area of TX at the same time. Thanks for the info. You know that Jean and I met working on the Garners which is my husbands line. Funny if they are connected. Phyl At 04:04 AM 09/27/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Phyllis.........txjean is Jean Shroyer and she is my niece and the >Harvey's were in Erath county. George B. and Emile Mahon Harvey. He gave >the first school building in Clairette and the Salmon there are ours also. >Don't know if she is on here tonight. they had been to the ranch and went >back to Austin. > >Jane Lemmons nee Glenn >txjane@ktc.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phyllis Garner <sasilady@erols.com> >To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, September 26, 1999 3:09 PM >Subject: Re: [ERATH] Purves Live Oak Cemetery > > >>Ok what do you mean watch this county? Phyl >> >> >> >>At 03:06 PM 09/26/1999 EDT, you wrote: >>>Hi Phyllis...saw you on here...watch this county too as you know...your >>>cousin..TXJEAN >>> >>> >>>==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >>>--- Author Retains Copyright --- >>>-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >>>Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >>>Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>Phyllis Garner >>Virginia Beach, VA >>ICQ #6544793 >>sasilady@erols.com ^i^ I Believe In Angels >>CCLov-A-ghan Co.-Aquisitions/Collections Co. >>http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/CrochetCrafts >> >> >>==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >>--- Author Retains Copyright --- >>-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >>Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >>Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Phyllis Garner Virginia Beach, VA ICQ #6544793 sasilady@erols.com ^i^ I Believe In Angels CCLov-A-ghan Co.-Aquisitions/Collections Co. http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/CrochetCrafts

Peggy: Are there any TROUT (TROUTT/TROTT) in Purves Live Oak Cemetery? Thanks for your offer and time. Betty Fenton RCFBCF@aol.com

Well you had me goin' good! East Indians from East Texas..I got it! I was picturing Buddha with a beer stein (not to imply Germans are only known for their beer!). Charles, I love your stories. Julia

IHi,all, I did not say Texas Rangers- I said Texas Partizan Rangers or, in this case "Central Texas Rangers". My great Grandad was supposed to have ridden on one legitimate Posse hunting a murderer after the Civil War. Baylor was most active just before the War. Neither group was a full time part of the Texas Rangers. The Partizan Rangers were supposed to be a Confederate National Guard type organization protecting the frontier from Indians while able bodied men had gone east to fight someone else's war. I do not know if the Texas Rangers kept records of the Partizan Rangers- they were Army. Very few in Texas had much interest in Slavery- it was too expensive for small homesteads. Instead, these Partizan Rangers mostly harrased theGermans of the New Braunfels area who had just lost one war in their life in Europe. Some were trying to get to Mexico when Capt. McDuff and men slaughterred them and imprisoned their wives and kids behind barbed wire, while the Comanche and Apache Indians were pushing the frontier back. Also, John R. Baylor, first Arizona Governor believed the only good Indian was a dead one. Col. Buck Barry, Texas Ranger , commissioned Mr. Baylor (Not the R.E.B. Baylor, founded the University) or lead an occasional posse to catch wanted criminals. Baylor organized volunteers from Waco to Abilene up the Bosque and west as an Indian Removal force, , Most murderrers they caught were not tried, but found hanging as "suicides" or shot as escapees. Baylor, according to Erath County records quoted on Historic calendars there from Town and Country Bank, researched by Dan Young, a History teacher. Baylor did not hesitate to shoot Caddo women and kids who reached for a broomstick or whatever when he rode up, orderring them off their farms. If your great grandmother was 1/2 cherokee in South Carolina 100 or 150 years before that, you did not wear it as a badge of honor for the safety of your family, unless you wanted your cabin to be lived in by others while you were in Oklahoma. Take care, Charles Wyly I did a graduate Paper for Dr. Jack Scroggs, University of North Texas in Denton. Their library has an unreal amount of history of this period and of Texas German newspapers and books and some English Translations. On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:08:30 -0500 Julia Brewer <juliab@flash.net> writes: >Texas Rangers "ex-Confederate Misfits"??? >Germans with East Indian roots? >Wow... > >KARLA KT SHAHAN wrote: > >> Dear Charlies Wyly, >> >> I am interested to know some information regarding these early >families >> that you have mentioned in your >> previous post: >> >> "More "Anglo" and German settlers in Erath County had Eastern >Indian >> roots not obvious or worn as a chip on the shoulder- in fact it was >> mentioned only to friends. >> John R. Baylor and his Central Texas Rangers (Sometimes a legal >posse- >> sometime Vigilantes) drove these friendly defenders to Oklahoma- >Caddo- >> Chickasha area via Fort Phantom Hill, Abilene, then went to Arizona >and >> became governor. " >> >> Can you tell me where these settlers came from? Virginia and >Tennessee? >> From Gulf ports newly arrived in the US? What were some of the >family >> surnames? Were these families farmers or merchants, blacksmiths, >> tinkers, tailors, or preachers? >> >> Were these people driven out... is that what you are saying, by the >> Central Texas Rangers... the group of >> ex Confederate misfits? >> >> Please elaborate, as you are so good at this. We really do enjoy >your >> posts. >> Karla Shahan >> ktshahan@juno.com >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> Get the Internet just the way you want it. >> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >> Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. >> >> ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >> --- Author Retains Copyright --- >> -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >> Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >> Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Hi, sorry about that- I did not mean Indians from India I meant the ones like The Eastern Cherokee Tribal headquarters and in the Carolinas. I know some were intermarried in the Eastern U.S. Why else would chiefs like John Jolly's dad, Jesse Bushyhead, The Ridge and JohnRidge and other descendants of Revolutionary War soldiers have been in Arkansas- Missouri-East Oklahoma Cherokee Nation some before and some after the Trail Of Tears? According to the book by that name, many were well educated as Ministers, Doctors (Dr. Peter Hurd McNair) and other professions and had plantations with mansions before they were forced out of The Georgia Gold Fields and other choice real estate. As soon as some were across the Mississippi- or on it- they came to East Texas , many useing Indian names with the encouragement of their adopted brother Sam Houston, Pres. of the Republic of Texas. Sam said all north and East of Tyler , Texas was Indian reservation when he was President of the Republic of Texas. The Texas Alabama- Coshuta Reservation and Cherokee County, Texas are far south of that. The next President said no reservations but individual settlers would not be disturbed, but tribal rights would not be respected. My wife's nephew and hundredas of others with roots in the Eastern U.S. began taking White Anglo, Irish. Scottish, or German names of kin or friends. He was a Smith of Smith, County, Texas. Remember- the Trail of Tears and Indian Policy were not the same in the Republic of Texas as in the U.S. and well educated Indian intermarrieds knew this to be a chance to escape U,S. policies. If you live in Texas anything east of the Mississippi is Eastern by a few hundred miles. Take care, Charles Wyly On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:01:47 -0500 KARLA KT SHAHAN <ktshahan@juno.com> writes: >Dear Charlies Wyly, > >I am interested to know some information regarding these early >families that you have mentioned in your >previous post: > > "More "Anglo" and German settlers in Erath County had Eastern Indian >roots not obvious or worn as a chip on the shoulder- in fact it was >mentioned only to friends. >John R. Baylor and his Central Texas Rangers (Sometimes a legal posse- >sometime Vigilantes) drove these friendly defenders to Oklahoma- >Caddo- Chickasha area via Fort Phantom Hill, Abilene, then went to >Arizona and became governor. " > >Can you tell me where these settlers came from? Virginia and >Tennessee? From Gulf ports newly arrived in the US? What were some >of the family surnames? Were these families farmers or merchants, >blacksmiths, >tinkers, tailors, or preachers? > >Were these people driven out... is that what you are saying, by the >Central Texas Rangers... the group of >ex Confederate misfits? > >Please elaborate, as you are so good at this. We really do enjoy >your posts. >Karla Shahan >ktshahan@juno.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, >and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: >http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All >Rights Reserved Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com >http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: >TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com

Sandy, You inquired about GOODMANS and BOWLING/BOLLING families from Erath Co.TX. This is what I found in the books that I have. Hope that some of these names might connect. Stephenville West End Cem.Rosamond GOODMAN 1870-1947>>>J.E. GOODMAN Nov 19,1883-June 19,1906. Hightower Cem. Mary L. GOODMAN 1865-1953>>>James H. GOODMAN 1862-1948>>>Cecil H. GOODMAN June 16,1907-Apr.27,1945>>>Vera U. GOODMAN Feb 18,1890-Oct 31,1918>>>Infant of J.E. GOODMAN no dates>>>Bertha C.,dau.W.A. & S.F. GOODMAN Sept 21,1891-Feb 25,1892>>>William A. GOODMAN Nov 8,1869-May 11,1949>>>Sarah F. GOODMAN May 14,1872-June 13,1957>>>Old Dublin Cem. Effie J. GOODMAN 1877-1962>>>New Dublin Cem. J.H.G. GOODMAN Sept 23,1865-Dec 30,1963>>>Mary Lactica GOODMAN (wife) Sept 7,1869-July 25,1943>>>Stephenville West End Cem. Louella BOLLING Nov 24,1868-Nov 10,1943>>>Marriages/ B.F. GOODMAN married N.E. BIGGS 25 Dec 1881>>>J.H. GOODMAN mar. M.L.HERRING 15 Jan 1885>>>H.E. BOLING mar M.E. GOODMAN 7 June 1885>>>J.F.GOODMAN mar Nannie J.BOSTICK 17 Nov 1887>>>E.M. CRICK mar Mrs M.P. GOODMAN 26 Apr 1890>>>William GOODMAN mar Sadie KILLIAN 6 Nov 1890>>>J.E. BOLLING mar Hattie B. OWENS 15 Jan1891. Hope that there is something in here that you or someone else on the list can use. Good Luck!! Betty Stinecipher stinecipher@ofgeorgia.com

James M Killion b Apr 13, 1829, Blount Co., AL (son of John Anderson Killion and Nancy (Moore) Killion) was buried in Aug 1915 in Valley Grove Cemetery, Stephenville, Erath Co. His first wife was Elizabeth Palmer, daughter of Samuel M. Palmer and Susanne Wideman. Elizabeth died before 1888 but no other information known on her. James M Killion and Elizabeth (Palmer) Killion had the following children: Benjamin Franklin, Jack A., William Fulton, Samuel M, James Marion, Sarah J (married first George Herricks and second ? Chenault), Elizabeth C (died age 4), and Henry Marshall. James M Killion secondly married Eliza Lucinda (Lindsey) Mills (b MS in 1830). Eliza had the following children from her first marriage to John Mills: Nancy Ann, Henry H, Thomas C and two others. This second marriage for both produced the following: Martha C (married J.D. Fenley), Gibson Gaston and Henrietta Rebecca (married William Alonzo Thompson--son of M. A. (Evans) and stepson of Charles Starley of Duffau). I am interested in communicating with anyone who has an interest or knowledge in any of the above names. Pete Simmons PS--I too am enjoying VERY MUCH the history remembered by Charles Wyly.

Texas Rangers "ex-Confederate Misfits"??? Germans with East Indian roots? Wow... KARLA KT SHAHAN wrote: > Dear Charlies Wyly, > > I am interested to know some information regarding these early families > that you have mentioned in your > previous post: > > "More "Anglo" and German settlers in Erath County had Eastern Indian > roots not obvious or worn as a chip on the shoulder- in fact it was > mentioned only to friends. > John R. Baylor and his Central Texas Rangers (Sometimes a legal posse- > sometime Vigilantes) drove these friendly defenders to Oklahoma- Caddo- > Chickasha area via Fort Phantom Hill, Abilene, then went to Arizona and > became governor. " > > Can you tell me where these settlers came from? Virginia and Tennessee? > From Gulf ports newly arrived in the US? What were some of the family > surnames? Were these families farmers or merchants, blacksmiths, > tinkers, tailors, or preachers? > > Were these people driven out... is that what you are saying, by the > Central Texas Rangers... the group of > ex Confederate misfits? > > Please elaborate, as you are so good at this. We really do enjoy your > posts. > Karla Shahan > ktshahan@juno.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com