didn't find any Shearers in the book Peggy in Purves ----- Original Message ----- From: KARLA KT SHAHAN <ktshahan@juno.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 10:26 AM Subject: [ERATH] Erath Lookup > Does anyone have any SHEARERS in their genealogies? > > Karla > ktshahan@juno.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

no Nash or Tyler that I could find Peggy in Purves ----- Original Message ----- From: Phyllis Garner <sasilady@erols.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath County book > Could you check and see if you have NASH or TYLER in the book. Thanks. Phyl > > > > At 03:48 PM 10/18/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >I have the Erath County book you mentioned if you need something looked up. > > > >Peggy in Purves > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <Texasdog@aol.com> > >To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:41 PM > >Subject: [ERATH] Erath County book > > > > > >> > >> >>>>>ACCESSION: 6775315 > >> TITLE: History of Erath County : > >> a pictorial, limited edition, family history of the people of > >> Erath County, 1878-1980 / > >> PLACE: Dublin, TX : > >> PUBLISHER: Erath County Historical Commission, > >> YEAR: 1980 > >> PUB TYPE: Book > >> FORMAT: 176 p. : ill., ports. ; 29 cm. > >> SUBJECT: Erath County (Tex.) -- Biography. > >> Erath County (Tex.) -- Genealogy. > >> OTHER: Erath County Historical Commission.<<<<<<<< > >> > >> Peggy at Bridge City----- > >> The above book is that which I had mentioned as one published on > >> Erath County families. It had limited circulation but is in Dublin & > >> Stephenville libraries. For the most part, the families in the book > >would > >> have been those in and around Dublin. > >> > >> Bill McCarty Odessa, Texas > >> > >> http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > >> http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > >> > >> > >> ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >> --- Author Retains Copyright --- > >> -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >> Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >> Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> > > > > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > >--- Author Retains Copyright --- > >-- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > >Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > >Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > Phyllis Garner > Virginia Beach, VA > ICQ #6544793 > sasilady@erols.com ^i^ I Believe In Angels > CCLov-A-ghan Co.-Aquisitions/Collections Co. > http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/CrochetCrafts > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

There is a Steve Keith born in 1865-1954 his father was George W. Keith bron 8 Dec,1930 and died in 1877- he was buried in Round Grove Cemetery , and there decendents living in the Highland community today. There is more information, and I will be glad to send you a copy if you will email me at my address peggyj@our-town.com ----- Original Message ----- From: vynette sage <vmsage@netzone.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Cook / Pettiet > Some areas of the country have funeral home records available which contain > a great deal of useful information. I don't know if there are records > available for Erath Co--or even which Funeral Home was doing burials before > 1900. Does anyone out there know? Is the funeral home still in business? Is > there a current address? I could also use this information for my own > research. > My list of surnames that are connected with Erath/Comanche/Brown counties > are: > Duke, Foster, Jackson, Keith, Essary, Glasscock, Cargile, Carruthers > Vynette in Arizona > > ---------- > > From: DebbyKay <debbykay@hotmail.com> > > To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Cook / Pettiet > > Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 9:03 PM > > > > Does anyone know who and if there is any way to obtain doctor records for > > the period of 1881 - 1882? My great great grandmother Emily Pettiet died > and > > is buried in Turnbow Cemetery. Story has it that she died after becoming > ill > > and giving her baby the wrong medicine - the baby died - Emily grieved > > herself to death. Anyone with information ... please. > > > > Also, is Bill Cook related to George B. Cook or William Washington Cook > by > > any chance. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Debby McDanel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <KLCoombs@aol.com> > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Laney > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/18/99 7:28:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > jlee@centex.net > > > writes: > > > > > > << Do you have info on the Laneys who moved from Erath County to Hale > > Center. > > > I beleve at least one was William, son of John & Martha Secrest Laney. > > Look > > > fwd to hearing from you again... Thanks, Joe Lee >> > > > > > > Hi Joe! -- My great-grandmother was born in a cabin called "the old > > > schoolhouse on Tom Laney's place" if this helps... She was born in > 1882. > > Not > > > sure where this was -- either Duffau or Dublin. > > > > > > --Kathryn Coombs > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Sorry , I found no Dickerson there, ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Dickerson <rdickerson@pcisys.net> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath County book > Peggy in Purves: > Saw a note on the Erath site, would you please see if there are any > Dickersons in your book? I am looking for Thomas Dickerson dob1816 who > helped settle Erath county and was there in 1854, Joseph Luther D. dob Feb. > 14, 1852 and owned a broom factory in Stephenville. Any infor. would be > greatly appreciated. > Thank you very much > Richard J. Dickeson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peggy McCleskey Broughton <peggyj@our-town.com> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:40 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Erath County book > > > > Peggy in Bridge City, > > > > What names are you looking for in the Erath County Book, I have a copy > here > > at home , > > > > Peggy in Purves > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Texasdog@aol.com> > > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:41 PM > > Subject: [ERATH] Erath County book > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>ACCESSION: 6775315 > > > TITLE: History of Erath County : > > > a pictorial, limited edition, family history of the people of > > > Erath County, 1878-1980 / > > > PLACE: Dublin, TX : > > > PUBLISHER: Erath County Historical Commission, > > > YEAR: 1980 > > > PUB TYPE: Book > > > FORMAT: 176 p. : ill., ports. ; 29 cm. > > > SUBJECT: Erath County (Tex.) -- Biography. > > > Erath County (Tex.) -- Genealogy. > > > OTHER: Erath County Historical Commission.<<<<<<<< > > > > > > Peggy at Bridge City----- > > > The above book is that which I had mentioned as one published on > > > Erath County families. It had limited circulation but is in Dublin & > > > Stephenville libraries. For the most part, the families in the book > > would > > > have been those in and around Dublin. > > > > > > Bill McCarty Odessa, Texas > > > > > > http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > > > http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

In a message dated 10/20/99 10:05:59 AM Central Daylight Time, fredorkim@email.msn.com writes: << Thank you for this explanation. I found it very helpful, and also very interesting as I am a nurse. Great input! Kim Ewers >> Kim, My understanding is that doctors aren't much better today with the paperwork.....that is why they have staff persons to do that....(LOL) Of course now everything is aimed at "documentation"...over and over over. Much different world than then. Most nurses and medical personnel have a hard time speaking or writing plain English what with all the acronyms fot this or that. I have been married to an R.N.----paperwork by the trainload compared to yesteryear. Bill McCarty Bill McCarty

My cousin, Mrs. Don Harvey is connected to Carlisle/Carlile/Linch/Lynch/Nix and Kirby lines of Lometa, Lampasas Co., TX and if anyone in Erath Co., TX connects to these of Nix, TX..then let us know..Thanks TXJEAN

Let me say this to the list. If you ask for a look up from the Erath county book in the last 2 days,please be patient with me, I spent 5 hours in the Er with my husband on Monday, and then yesterday, all day in Temple with my mom, but I will get to your request, The book is not indexed , but almost in alphabetical order , so it makes looking up slow, but I will get there Thanks Peggy In Purves ----- Original Message ----- From: <Texasdog@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: [ERATH] Re: Cottonwood Church > In a message dated 10/19/99 10:48:32 PM Central Daylight Time, > patn@mail.snider.net writes: > > << Does it mention a Cottonwood Churchl? A letter to John from a > friend mentions this church. >> > > Pat, > Cottonwood Church (and cemetery) is still active. It is located > alongside Highway 6 between Dublin and Alexander on the north > side of the highway. I know that one of the Haley family from > Clairette was buried there (Bonnie Haley Culver) as late as 1994. > I am almost positive that the church is Baptist in faith as a missionary > Baptist church. > > Bill McCarty Odessa,Texas > > http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

CottonWood Church is a very active church, one of the most active in Dublin, they have a membership of almost 400 , they have a very large Bible school in the summer for children and alway ahave the best attendence of any church in town. The cemetery is right nxt to the church and is still in use. Peggy In Purves ----- Original Message ----- From: <Texasdog@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: [ERATH] Re: Cottonwood Church > In a message dated 10/19/99 10:48:32 PM Central Daylight Time, > patn@mail.snider.net writes: > > << Does it mention a Cottonwood Churchl? A letter to John from a > friend mentions this church. >> > > Pat, > Cottonwood Church (and cemetery) is still active. It is located > alongside Highway 6 between Dublin and Alexander on the north > side of the highway. I know that one of the Haley family from > Clairette was buried there (Bonnie Haley Culver) as late as 1994. > I am almost positive that the church is Baptist in faith as a missionary > Baptist church. > > Bill McCarty Odessa,Texas > > http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

----- Original Message ----- From: <Texasdog@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: [ERATH] Re: Cottonwood Church > In a message dated 10/19/99 10:48:32 PM Central Daylight Time, > patn@mail.snider.net writes: > > << Does it mention a Cottonwood Churchl? A letter to John from a > friend mentions this church. >> > > Pat, > Cottonwood Church (and cemetery) is still active. It is located > alongside Highway 6 between Dublin and Alexander on the north > side of the highway. I know that one of the Haley family from > Clairette was buried there (Bonnie Haley Culver) as late as 1994. > I am almost positive that the church is Baptist in faith as a missionary > Baptist church. > > Bill McCarty Odessa,Texas > > http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

There is a bit about aHowell, she was a Hennessee before she married, it is a bit hard to read, and mother was Ellen McGee Hennessee - doesn't say who her father was, if you want more information , let me know,. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <DTracy1124@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 7:52 PM Subject: [ERATH] HOWELL surname > Gosh, I have seen so many names flying through this list today....are there > any Howells out there? > > Darlene > dtracy1124@aol.com > "My Family Tree must be a Pecan tree, we are all Nuts!" > Howell, Riley, Marchant, Thomas, Branch, Hargis > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

There are Longs, but not the names you mentioned Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Texasdog@aol.com> To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Stone Family > In a message dated 10/18/99 6:34:20 PM Central Daylight Time, > KLCoombs@aol.com writes: > > << > If it turns out that they are the same family, I have information on the > Longs going way back, from North Carolina to South Carolina, to Georgia to > Alabama to Texas. > > --Kathryn Coombs > >> > RE: LONG family > > Would you have information on any of the following LONG persons > who would be connected with Erath County families? > > (1) General James Beauregard Long, b. 1863 ---married Alice Hale > who was born 1871 in Duffau; the couple lived in Eldorado, OK. The > "General" is a given name and not a title. > (2) Minos Gentry Long b. 1826 in TN---father of John W. Long who > married Julia Ann McCarty and lived at Duffau. > > Bill McCarty Odessa, Texas > > http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

> > Peggy in Purves: In the book you have about the history of Erath Co, could you tell me what type of industry was there about 1880-1900. John A Davis and his sons, Jefferson, Tom and John JR moved there and lived in the area about that time. Does it mention a Cottonwood Churchl? A letter to John from a friend mentions this church. There were several Johnson's in the area related to the boys mother who died about 1884. Thanks Pat Nance

Hi, No, but Dr. hariet Shearer is Special Education Director of the Midway Independent School District, Woodway- hewitt- Waco , where I and other Stephenville natives have taught. Her husbandhas a business ortwo in town. One is a vending and/or catering company. Take care Charles Wyly

Hi, When I was a squad leader in Tarleton ROTC, Franklin Conger, a former fellow student of Stephenville High School died unexpectedly His mom requested a Military Funeral and our squad were the paulbearers and took turns sitting up all noght in the Higinbotham ( Now Stephenville) Funeral home. Euell Jones filled us in on reasons behind our burial customs. I had learned some helping dig graves in Johnsville, Pony Creek, and Selden Hatchett Cemetey. Don't think you wont to hear some- but Irish wakes were held until the Rigor Mortis set in "and the soul shook free of the body". Dad said it was not unheard of for a corpse to jerk or start to sit up. This procedure took 3 days and 3 nights, and was part of the reasomn some Baptists believed in other than the Catholic version of the Cruxifiction- The body of Christ was in the grave 3 days and three nights to remove all question of a Catatonic trance or drugs such as Romeo took in the classic play- Romeo and Juliet. Most bodies were kept in the home front room in the 1930's even if they were embalmed in town and the body of a believer was usually carried to his church for the funeral. All present took part in the singing and friends dug his grave. Sometimes in Selden and Indian Creek they had to blast rock out to complete the grave in time, before Diesel backhoes. I have heard reports such as when the cemetery between Meridian and the Brazos was moved through Kopperell when Lake Whitney flooded it. Some had come back to life when they did not have the breath to ripple a candle flame and felt cold? The Texas Frontier sitting up with the deceased, accor=ding to Ewell Jones, was to keep cats and varmits away from the corpse. My dad sat up with his Great Grandad Hatchett or his Uncle Gus, who married a Shaw, and at about 2 AM, a cat came through the screen, whick woke them up completely- but had better close- ask your older relatives or an elberly Funeral director about such if you are still curious. Take care, Charles Wyly

Was there a Simmons mentioned in the book, that was a Texas Ranger? Thank you. Erna Florida

Darlene, John Howell and John McKnight were our family acquaintances in the "Greasy" or old Marble School District,in Maratheal's Gap, Erath County where some Ewers attended. When these McKnight kids (and some Howells, i think) attended Johnsville School, before the 3 way school consolidation, I thought his mom made the best and most pancakes and waffles I ever ate off a wood stove. There is a dairy barn across U.S. 67 from the McKnight home where I used to spend the night witha McKnight in grand e school- Boyce, I think. There was a cave in the top of the mountain under the caprock and was deeper than most rock shed type caves. This overlooks the old Bumper Gate road across the gravel hills from Iredell or Fairy through Black Stump Valley and Maratheal's Gap, then across the Paluxy towards Tolar or Grandbury. Take care.

Thank you all for the insight into the pioneer funerals in Erath County. It was much appreciated. Vynette in Arizona ---------- > From: DebbyKay <debbykay@hotmail.com> > To: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Funeral records or funeral homes > Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:01 AM > > Bill, > > Thanks. Just a thought! Oh ... if only! There are so many questions and so > few answers. > > I really appreciate all of your help. > > Take care. > > Debby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Texasdog@aol.com> > To: <TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Funeral records or funeral homes > > > > Debby, > > There were 81 grandchildren and my grandmother died near Afton > > in 1925 and one of my cousins got her old doctor's book. To give you an > > idea of the informality of birth records in the early 1900s, my > grandmother > > would keep "births" like in a format that reminded me of how we might > > keep scores of "domino games" today. About once a month or every six > > weeks, she might travel to Dickens and record the births. This was > > recorded on a large sheet of paper that would be lined with rows and > > columns. She might have delivered six or eight children during this > > period and she would write down the parents, the date, maybe the > community, > > and if it was a boy or girl or if there were twins. This would > > have been during the 1910s or so when she was in her 60s. She might > > miss the date by a few or several days, too. For example, she might have > > travelled from home for several days spending the night with "blue babys" > > or what have you.....and I gather these birth records would have all the > > degree of accuracy that a truck driver's expense account and log book > > would have today. In other words, paper work was considered a triviality > > in that the health of the patients came first and the "birth log" would > often > > be from "memory" weeks after the fact. I know of at least one occasion > > where the "birth log" listed the wrong gender of the baby. Death records > > in the rural area might be the in the same manner but up from 1903 until > > 1927 when the state took the responsibility from local counties, probably > > only 65 to 75% of the births were recorded in the best of years. Death > > records were not automatic as they are today. > > > > > > Bill McCarty Odessa, Texas > > > > http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html > > http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 1999 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: TXERATH-L@rootsweb.com http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: TXERATH-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Hi, I have heard that some Stone and possibly Careys were with or ahead of Daniel Boone and his Longhunters. Does anyone have the address of the Longhunters on the internet ? Was Daniel's Longhunter trips before or after Great Grandad 19 times back, Co. Ben Cleveland and his blacksmith- guntoting gunsmith servant Toby Cleveland would bear hunt together? Some Stones carried the name Toby in Erath County. Or were these Tennessee Stone and Careys independent freelancers? It was said that Col. Ben Cleveland never lost a battle in 50 Rev. war battles with the British, late 17 770-1780's. One bearhunt from the Carolinas into the Cumberland Gap, Col. Ben and Daniel were bear hunting without dogs , so that their smell and noise would not draw Indians. Some Indian hunters captured them , took all their clothes and most if not all of their weapons and they had to walk home in their birthday suits. I think they lost that battle- maybe it was a compromise. Take care, Charles Wyly

I had noticed this too on some mailings and deleted several duplicates. I thought maybe someone was duplicating their send command some way. charles wyly

In a message dated 10/19/99 10:48:32 PM Central Daylight Time, patn@mail.snider.net writes: << Does it mention a Cottonwood Churchl? A letter to John from a friend mentions this church. >> Pat, Cottonwood Church (and cemetery) is still active. It is located alongside Highway 6 between Dublin and Alexander on the north side of the highway. I know that one of the Haley family from Clairette was buried there (Bonnie Haley Culver) as late as 1994. I am almost positive that the church is Baptist in faith as a missionary Baptist church. Bill McCarty Odessa,Texas http://members.tripod.com/cindyradway/Erath/erath.html http://members.aol.com/texastag/mccarty.html