There is still a state mental hospital on South Presa in San Antonio. I don't think it is well known but there are also two cemeteries on the hospital land. However---- the stones are just numbered, no names. You have to go to the personnel office inside and show proof of relationship and the death date before you are given the number of the grave. Both cemeteries are surrounded by fences and the gates are LOCKED. You have to get a guard to open the gates,, and they will only do that after approval from the personnel office. The office personnel are quiet nice and went the extra mile when I visited there in 2001. However, since they couldn't find a record of the individual I was looking for , I never found the grave. I was told that the only patients buried there were those who's family did not come and claim them after death. Hope this helps. Alice Moore

Hi, some recoverred and came home. One in Erath County escaped twice, rode a bus home, and was in the kitchen when her husband got in from the field. He said she did not need to be in a State Home if she could find her way home. Some Erath County Doctors would send patients to State Homes for their own good as well as the family. 1. 1900 to 1935 most farm women washed clothes in a washpot NS RUBBED THEM BY HAND ON A rUB bOARD IN A TUB OF WATER IN A CHAIR TO STOOP OVER- wATER WAS HEATED BY WOOD. & CARIED FROM wINDMILL OR WELL 2. yES, THEY DID GET MEDICAL CARE - NOT THE SAME TYPE AS TODAY WITH REST HOMES WITH LTZHEIMER'S WINGS. 3. AT HOEING AND HARVEST AND OTHER BUSY SEASONS THE ENTIRE FAMILY WOULD BE IN THE FIELD TRYING TO HANG ON TO THEIR LAND. + 4. TEXAS ALSO HAD A SPECIAL SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF IN AUSTIN. cOUSIN MARVIN SHANNON MARRIED DAD'S FIRST COUSIN ELBERTINE MOXLEY- HER GRANDPARENTS IN SELDEN. .HE OBTAINED A LAW DEGREE FROM UNIV. OF TEXAS AND HE AND BROTHER FRED RAN THE SHANNON FUNERAL HOMES AND AMBULANCES AND A CEMETERY AND SHANNON LIFE INSURANCE. MARVIN COULD SHOW CUSTOMERS THE DISPLAY ROOM OF COFFINS AND BY TOUCH COULD QUOTE PRICE AND HIS SECRETARY TYPED THE CONTRACTS.. HE ALSO PLAYED IN A COLONIAL cOUNTRY CLUB GOLF CHARITYWITH BOB HOPE AS HIS PARTNER. THEY PLACED A BOARD ON THE GROUND POINTD TOWARDS THE NEXT HOLE AND GAVE HIM THE DISTANCE AND HE SAT HIS OWN BALL. Marvin was talking to others at Kiwanis Club one day in Fort Worth about golf. Another man said" You can't play Golf". Marvin said "I can beat you, the man said- That's a bet- Marvin said " You pick the place and I will pick the time". The man named the course, and Marvin said "Friday Midnight". lso, Texas has 4 Texas State Land Board Veretrans Homes- one in Floresville was opened after the Civil War. Other 3 are at Temple, Bonham, and Big Spring. These ARE NOT U.S. G.I. HOSPITALS. My Aunt Mary Ella Wyly , selden raised, was a Captain in U.S. Army Nurse Corps, 1939-46. in several Southeast Asia battle zones. She is 89 and ridses her scooter cair some- walks some, and is dearth on the Dominoes. Her coousin H.D. Kay, Jr. , Selden raised, was also in Temple home and passed away last month during the icestorm. Residents there use Scott & White Hospital and qualify for disability Vets pensions. Some drive cars. With Aid and Attendants instead of Medicaid they have several dollars more pay than the home charges.Thy picktheir own Doctors from the Temple area. See the site on the net about the Texas State Veterans Homes If you are really interested visit the manager in person and follow his directions and you can be admitted in a week or so. Doing it by mail or computer could take 6 months. You should run down every medical and Dental and Hospital record and perscription for the last several years for the application. Cousin H.D. had Altzheimer's and was in a special wing, but came to programs and Bingo and musicals with other patients , He was a retired Vocational Ag Teacher and Tarleton and A&M Grad. some drive off the grounds daily and eat out. . They should have some missing links in these 4 homes, esp, the Floresville Home, now open over 130 years. Take Care, Charles A. Wyly On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:36:25 -0800 IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN <[email protected]> writes: > was it a good place, say around the early 1900's > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy Shipman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] > > > > People in these parts were still being sent to the state hospital > at > Terrell > > during that time period. [My grandmother always asked if she could > get a > > corner suite so that we could all go with her!] > > > > Try checking the online Handbook of Texas. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN" <[email protected]> > > To: <TXER[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:10 PM > > Subject: [ERATH] > > > > > > > any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San > ANtonio > > > around the 1900's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

There was also the "lunatic assylum" in (or near) Austin that Erath county residents were being sent to in the 1900 to 1910 time period. > People in these parts were still being sent to the state hospital at Terrell > during that time period. > >>any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San ANtonio >>around the 1900's >> >> >

Sorry, In Central and North exams the only State Homes for those who could be treated today, often with Lithium and other medications and therapies, were in Rusk, Wichita Falls, Austin, and Terrell. There must have been others. Most who died there in or because of the economic crash of the Great Depression. were brought home to be buried. Some recovered and lived out their last years at home. Don't confuse State Mental asylums with San Angelo State Institution for Tuberculosis with the dry air, rest, and good food and medicines of the day. Also, the State operated Homes for what we call Special Education classes today. Only the violent go to Mexia or Abilene State School. Mexia was built in Army Barracks buildings between Mexia and Tehucana- Tawokani- (sp).for German Prisoners of War who were allowed to help local German farmers around Malone when farm labor was short. I visited several of these homes , both private and Public homes . Mexia was open to students of Education or Psychology to visit and observe. It was mostly severe Epileptic, Downs Syndrome, and severe cases. Some , including a the only true Microcephalic I ever saw were peaceable and would hoe a garden , but had to be told what to do and when to do it and when to quit. Anyother time some just stared. Most schools had wards for severe deformities who would never leave bed. One private school in Dallas contracted to State of Louisiana to care for their handicapped. Many REst homes, such as the one in Robinson would keep residents of Mexia school in one ward in Robinson. It was illegal to fence them in , thanks to Judge William Wayne Justis (sp) of Tyler- but we can fence students in and out of Public Schools with admission by ID Card only, such as Trimble Tech in Fort Worth. The only home in 1960's which did not allow Graduate Stuents to study and report on conditions was Abilene- there there were scheduled guided tours and one could join a special group, such as Church group with a program. DON'T OVERLOOK ANY OF THESE HOMES FOR MISSING LINKS- Some in Mexia were married and had children, but would return for short term treatment on their own. Not sure about Texas, but in Georgia, look for the GEORGIA BLACK BOOK- about 2 inches thick, . It listed any adult sent to State Prisons or Mental institutions. I know of one link in Georgia where the man had a habit of getting soused with bad moonshine and abusing his wife and kids. After a group of men called on him one night without hoods, they fold him they would see him in Jail the next report. And they did. He was dried up- or told to keep Lead and some metals away from his still, or quit drinking. One Wyly raised his son for a few years. He was released and moved to South Carolina and lived a very respectable life. No names, please. I have heard of some in ErathCounty who had " Jake Leg" paralysis from the lead from a Still with lead or a Zinc Radiator for the cooling coils. In 1960's a Mrs. Kreuger of Meridin was president of Texas Spastic Society and was approved to have a State Home there. Locals objected and she could not get land or local backing. Her husband ran a shop on Hwy 6 in Meridian and installed plastic beds on wooden Rental Trailers. She kept Downs Syndrome and Spastics and Fort Worth Star- Telegram sponsored annual workshops led by her. March of Dimes officials sat and booed and laughed at her. her daughter had a withered arm, but finished Clifton College and attended NTSU one year and became a Registerred Nurse. Also, one young lady in a Wheel chair was brought there in a wheel chair- with tests showing a very high IQ. A few months she returned to her Millionaire parents pushing her wheel chair. She learned it was not a disgrace to have a handicap, but a challenge. Sorry it took more space than I meant to, but if we are not aware of the with such conditions in our heritage, how will we ever learn when outside help and medication might return one to a no=Ma life? Charles A. Wyly On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:10:49 -0800 IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN <[email protected]> writes: > any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San > ANtonio > around the 1900's > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Are you asking, if the state mental hospital(s) was/were a good place in the early 1900s? Most of the people I recall reading about (including Laura Shellnutt of Duffau and Texana Fulfer Dorris of Exray and others I can't recall by name) committed suicide while at the state hospital. I sincerely doubt that it was a "good" place ... up until the mental health reforms of the 1970s-80s. I don't recall any local people being committed to any facility other than then unit at Terrell in the period of 1880s through 1910. A history of the Terrell hospital is at http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/TT/sbt1.html . At the same resource, there is also a history about your original query - the hospital at San Antonio, click on http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/SS/sbs4.html . The San Antonio unit became the state's only teaching hospital (in the care of the insane) about 1912. Cindy Shipman ----- Original Message ----- From: "IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] > was it a good place, say around the early 1900's > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy Shipman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] > > > > People in these parts were still being sent to the state hospital at > Terrell > > during that time period. [My grandmother always asked if she could get a > > corner suite so that we could all go with her!] > > > > Try checking the online Handbook of Texas. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:10 PM > > Subject: [ERATH] > > > > > > > any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San ANtonio > > > around the 1900's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

In retrospect that is probably a difficult question to answer. Most of the state hospitals at that time had many patients who had TB. Patient populations at that time could also include mentally ill individuals, those who had seizures, and perhaps the mentally retarded. From my research the facility was staffed with nurses, doctors, there is references to "cottages". Visitors were documented. They had their own cemetery. Placement of a family member there was probably a difficult decision at that time. Many of the hospitals at the time had small farming areas where they could raise vegetables, I believe one had a dairy. So they were almost complete communities. Currently the Texas Department of Mental Health and Mental Retardation is in charge of the operation of the state hospital and state schools. You might check their web site, there may be some early histories there. Not sure. For the mentally ill, care has come a long way since 1900. Advances in drugs at this time are amazing, in 1900 almost nill. So as you evaluate the "goodness" of the place, you also have to think of the choices the family faced in 1900. For researchers that are looking for relatives that were in the TX hospitals, you can write to the hospital, in care of the medical records department. State who you are looking for, the period of admission and your relationship to the individual. Records do still exist for the very early admissions although they will be brief. Your request should be in writing and give them time to research the records. The conditions of the archives vary and the present staff are very busy. I would also bet that the hospital you are questioning my have a prepared history of the hospital. You might write to either the Public Information Officer or the Community Relations Office at the hospital and ask if they have a printed history they could send you. good luck...

I know a little about it. It is presently San Antonio State Hospital. In 1900 the Southwestern Insane Asylum. If you go the the TXGenWeb page and then to Bexar County, you will find a patient census of 1900. Gil

was it a good place, say around the early 1900's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Shipman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] > People in these parts were still being sent to the state hospital at Terrell > during that time period. [My grandmother always asked if she could get a > corner suite so that we could all go with her!] > > Try checking the online Handbook of Texas. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:10 PM > Subject: [ERATH] > > > > any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San ANtonio > > around the 1900's > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > >

Sorry Charles ... I don't know their history. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > Hi,Cindy, > > mom said that Claude Gunn was a cousin to her and 2 Stones who lived in > Stephenville Nursing Home, built for Mrs. Allen. Do you know any Gunn > History. ? Wylys of Scotlnd were supposed to have ben part of the Honor > or Color Guards for Clan Gunn in Scotland, > > Thanks, > Charles Wyly > > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:28:53 -0800 Cindy Shipman <[email protected]> > writes: > > The Huckabay book is a little over 200 indexed pages, softbound and > > runs $20 > > (plus postage.) It includes an alpha list of the known burials > > (marked and > > unmarked), death record and obit if available locally. One of these > > books > > was donated to the DAR Library in Washington, D.C. and when they > > accepted it > > they sent a nice letter commending the documented research that went > > into > > creating it. [We donated the list of burials for all of our > > cemeteries to > > the Erath County GenWeb Archives.] > > > > I don't have any books on the shelf right now, but we'll be printing > > some in > > the next couple of weeks. In addition to Huckabay, we have also done > > the > > Exray Cemetery ($15) and the Hannibal Cemetery ($10). The Hannibal > > book > > includes some abstracted biographies and Confederate pension > > records. The > > United Daughters of the Confederacy awarded Jefferson Davis Silver > > Stars to > > the students who produced it. This year's project is the > > Liberty/Liberty > > Valley Cemetery (and will be more like the Hannibal book), and it > > will be > > completed soon (to coincide with their late April cemetery work > > day.) > > > > The revenue from the book sales go back into the project to fund > > more > > research and community service activities. All of our books were > > also > > donated to the Stephenville Museum, Stepheville Public Library, Dick > > Smith > > Library at Tarleton State University, the Dublin Public Library, the > > Hamilton Co. Genealogy Library, and the Comanche Public Library. > > > > We'd be happy to share any research about specific individuals, but > > the > > books are really great stories about the communities. And the people > > are all > > so inter-related by blood and marriage, that having the whole book > > to read > > is a treat. > > > > Cindy Shipman > > > > PS - feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you need more > > information about a burial in one of these cemeteries or if you'd > > like to > > order a book. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dortha F. Greenlee" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > > > > > > > Cindy, Tell me more about the book. I was aware you were working > > on it. > > What > > > price are you asking, and is it still available? > > > > > > Thanks for all you do. > > > > > > Dortha McElroy Greenlee > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cindy Shipman" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > > > > > > > > > > Jerri - my students did extensive research in the Huckabay > > Cemetery two > > > > years ago and published a book including all the marked graves, > > local > > > obits > > > > and death records. B.A. Holt has a marker but not Alabama (nor > > any other > > > > Holt.) There aren't any 1904 newspapers available, so we did not > > find an > > > > obit. > > > > > > > > We're always collecting info about the burials as it becomes > > available - > > > > someday we'd like to update and revise the book. Do you have > > info about > > > > Alabama's interment or other information you could add to our > > work? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Cindy Shipman > > > > Local History, project sponsor > > > > Huckabay School > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jerri Ritter" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:03 PM > > > > Subject: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for family of the above Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama > > Jones. They > > > had > > > > at > > > > > least three children, Charles b. @1876; Robert b. @1877; and > > Delaney > > b. > > > @ > > > > 1879. > > > > > Benjamin and Alabama are buried in Huckabay Cemetery, in Erath > > County, > > > TX. > > > > Who > > > > > were all the children? Who did they marry? Any info > > appreciated. > > Will > > > > share > > > > > anything I have on families. > > > > > > > > > > Jerri (Norman) Ritter > > > > > Ada, OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

People in these parts were still being sent to the state hospital at Terrell during that time period. [My grandmother always asked if she could get a corner suite so that we could all go with her!] Try checking the online Handbook of Texas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "IOWA RIBBONDUNCAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: [ERATH] > any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San ANtonio > around the 1900's > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San ANtonio around the 1900's

--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ed Butler" <[email protected]> To: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:17:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] Cromwellian Adventurers on the Web (free) Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Charles, No, .......I'm afraid I'm from the Pennsylvania Butlers out of Donegal Ireland. However, I'm sure there are Butlers from my branch in Texas or Louisiana or Mississippi. Know for a fact that Butlers from my branch landed at New Orleans and went who knows where from there. Plus, my brother made New Mexico his home some 50 years ago and his family still resides there.....................Ed

Hi, are you related to the Dave Garner of Selden, Texas, 1930's? His son James Garner married my first cousin Imogene Hatchett, a Carey- stone- Copeland- Carey descendant. On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:19:14 -0700 Phyllis Garner <[email protected]> writes: > --=======4FFD168C======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-5E4B3803; > charset=us-ascii; > format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Not sure. My Aunt Ileta Nash Butler married Watkins (Wad) Butler > there. The > family was originally from MS and they left there and moved to > Dublin area > about the same time when the kids were small. > > Phyl > > > > At 04:16 PM 7/25/2002, you wrote: > > >Is Ed Butler related to Luther Butler. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:10 AM > >Subject: [ERATH] Re: Question > > > > > > > Hi, > > > ' A shop kept my computer 3 weeks and when I got it back, he had > hidden > > > my entire family tree program with 3000 names plus, in "Old > Files- but > > > the first one of 3 came back with an olded FTM program. Only > problem is > I > > > cannot make it write reports and booklets. It keeps saying > "Not > enough > > > Memory" I was useing 3 of my 10 gigs when it went town. > > > > > > I haveeplied to Butler requests in the past. Guess they were not > sent > > > properly. Ed Butler, wife, son, and his wife lived on Rocky > Point road > > > off U.S.67- about a mile west of the road. Mom and dad and Ed > and wife > > > used to visit some and Ed and son worked with thresher crews on > our > field > > > at Johnsville and Selden. Mrs. Butler would help mom cook for > thresher > > > crews and they were regulars at community dinner on the Ground- > school, > > > mostly. > > > > > > Later, in 1950-57, I met Dan Butler at Convair Fort Worth, > where , for > > > about 5 years were a team doing Electrical Ringout, Alternator > > > changeouts, and Sam Sac Engine Rebuild on B- 36. We were > briefly > > > introduced to F 102 work when I finished Univ of North Texas and > started > > > teaching in Hamlin for about half of whad Convair paid- but a > lifetime > > > of planniong a budget around unexpected layoffs was less than > desireable. > > > > > > > > > Dan had a smaller brother whom I only knew by sight and Dan's > talking at > > > work. His dad was a peanut farmer, Deacon, and cattle trader. > They lived > > > opposite side of Lingleville Hwy, just before J.D. Holdbrook's > (Name > > > orrection? He married a Cork from Selden). Once, during a > Convair > layoff, > > > 6 of us from Stephenville had gpone to Texas Employment Office > to apply > > > for unemployment pay. Jackie Huey was a friend of Dan's and we > were all > > > hired to go to Boeing at Wichata or kansas City- don't remember > which. > We > > > were planning on Wednesday to leave the following Monday and > share an > > > apartment until we saw what was available and how the work was. > Convair > > > called us back on Friday- best I could understand, Convair > recalled > > > experienced workers rather than loose them to Boeing. > > > > > > Years later, Jackie Huey was in charge of the restaurant and > banquets > for > > > reunions at Holiday Inn, Stephenville. > > > > > > I do not know the connection of Ed, s family and Dan's family. > if there > > > was one. Dan's parents & siblings lived on Lingleville Hwy, > across from > > > J.D. Holdbrook's Auto Machine shop in 1950's. (Correct name- my > memory > > > has not been down that road since my wife's parents at Clyde, > Texas > died. > > > Now we visit kin on Hwy 6 or 36, from Levelland to Tyler. > > > > > > I also seem to remember a few times when Ed Butler, Tate Ford, > the > > > Gristys, Bob Stanley , Virl Cox, Don Wimberly, and others used > to do a > > > little picking and Fiddling for families, after the youth were > played > > > down & older were talking. > > > > > > Taske care, > > > Charles A. \Wyly > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:54:51 -0400 Phyllis Garner > <[email protected]> > > > writes: > > > > Mr Wyly I have asked you several times if you know anything > about the > > > > NASH > > > > or BUTLER familys of the county and got no reply. I know they > were a > > > > little > > > > on the rowdy side so wonder if you just do not want to talk > about > > > > them, or > > > > did not know them. I have been told my grandfather Joseph NASH > > > > called Buck > > > > was struck by lightning when my father Loel NASH was young and > have > > > > been > > > > told some family stories by others, some I believe and some I > take > > > > with a > > > > grain of salt. My last Aunt passed away a couple years ago > there in > > > > Dublin, > > > > her name was Ileta BUTLER wife of Watkins BUTLER. Any > remembrances > > > > you > > > > might have of this family I would love to have. > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance > > > > > > > > > > > > Phyllis Nash Garner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friendship has no name but love. 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Hi,Cindy, mom said that Claude Gunn was a cousin to her and 2 Stones who lived in Stephenville Nursing Home, built for Mrs. Allen. Do you know any Gunn History. ? Wylys of Scotlnd were supposed to have ben part of the Honor or Color Guards for Clan Gunn in Scotland, Thanks, Charles Wyly On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:28:53 -0800 Cindy Shipman <[email protected]> writes: > The Huckabay book is a little over 200 indexed pages, softbound and > runs $20 > (plus postage.) It includes an alpha list of the known burials > (marked and > unmarked), death record and obit if available locally. One of these > books > was donated to the DAR Library in Washington, D.C. and when they > accepted it > they sent a nice letter commending the documented research that went > into > creating it. [We donated the list of burials for all of our > cemeteries to > the Erath County GenWeb Archives.] > > I don't have any books on the shelf right now, but we'll be printing > some in > the next couple of weeks. In addition to Huckabay, we have also done > the > Exray Cemetery ($15) and the Hannibal Cemetery ($10). The Hannibal > book > includes some abstracted biographies and Confederate pension > records. The > United Daughters of the Confederacy awarded Jefferson Davis Silver > Stars to > the students who produced it. This year's project is the > Liberty/Liberty > Valley Cemetery (and will be more like the Hannibal book), and it > will be > completed soon (to coincide with their late April cemetery work > day.) > > The revenue from the book sales go back into the project to fund > more > research and community service activities. All of our books were > also > donated to the Stephenville Museum, Stepheville Public Library, Dick > Smith > Library at Tarleton State University, the Dublin Public Library, the > Hamilton Co. Genealogy Library, and the Comanche Public Library. > > We'd be happy to share any research about specific individuals, but > the > books are really great stories about the communities. And the people > are all > so inter-related by blood and marriage, that having the whole book > to read > is a treat. > > Cindy Shipman > > PS - feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you need more > information about a burial in one of these cemeteries or if you'd > like to > order a book. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dortha F. Greenlee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > > > > Cindy, Tell me more about the book. I was aware you were working > on it. > What > > price are you asking, and is it still available? > > > > Thanks for all you do. > > > > Dortha McElroy Greenlee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cindy Shipman" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > > > > > > > Jerri - my students did extensive research in the Huckabay > Cemetery two > > > years ago and published a book including all the marked graves, > local > > obits > > > and death records. B.A. Holt has a marker but not Alabama (nor > any other > > > Holt.) There aren't any 1904 newspapers available, so we did not > find an > > > obit. > > > > > > We're always collecting info about the burials as it becomes > available - > > > someday we'd like to update and revise the book. Do you have > info about > > > Alabama's interment or other information you could add to our > work? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Cindy Shipman > > > Local History, project sponsor > > > Huckabay School > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jerri Ritter" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 3:03 PM > > > Subject: [ERATH] Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama Jones > > > > > > > > > > Looking for family of the above Benjamin A. Holt/Alabama > Jones. They > > had > > > at > > > > least three children, Charles b. @1876; Robert b. @1877; and > Delaney > b. > > @ > > > 1879. > > > > Benjamin and Alabama are buried in Huckabay Cemetery, in Erath > County, > > TX. > > > Who > > > > were all the children? Who did they marry? Any info > appreciated. > Will > > > share > > > > anything I have on families. > > > > > > > > Jerri (Norman) Ritter > > > > Ada, OK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi, Follow me to Primitive Baptist Bosque Association - from Little Flock near Temple to Erath County to the Brazos River. Other associations are connected to this site by links in Coryen and Erath County 1. Open your Internet. 2.Go to search window on Home page and type in Google. Later, put it in your favorites. 3.In the Google Search window , type in BOSQUE COUNTY PRIMITIVE BAPTIST ASSOCIATION 4. first one is Bosque Couty. others in Erath and Coryell Counties and McKinney and more are listed below it. Many Erath County names in all these churches with detailed beliefs. Remember, back then , a Pastor was the only paid staff and he was sometimes paid with canned goods, fresh fruit and vegetables, fresh deer, pork, or beef, , Fresh or dressed chickens, or anything of useful value. Ever been to a Preacher pounding? We had them in Bosque County. Bet thosae young student preachers got tired of canned squash. Some churches near a Railroad or the Interurban from Dallas and Fort Worth to Waco would send the pastor or guest speaker round trip ticket. and give him and his family a guest bedroom Sometimes they shared a 1 room school , some with Lodge upstairs and community activities downstairs and on the grounds,like Old Indian Creek Church,near Pleasant (Chigger) Hill off 281 opposite from Selden Turnoff. The Primitive Baptists followed the Creed of Presbyterian Calvinist Churches of 1700's and differences arose over instrumental music and over if some were Predestined to spend eternity in Hell. Most pastors were educated in other fields and preaching was part time. Missionary Baptists and BMA and Southern did not have a Creed, but a statement of basic faith agreed on by each church as they felt led. Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:25:31 -0800 "P. & A. Adell" <[email protected]> writes: > Could you please send the link to the Primitive Baptist records? I > can't > seem to find them. Thank you. Ann Adell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] BOSQUE OR BASQUE CREEK > > > > Hi, Thanks, > > > > and you are right- 3 of the 4 Bosque Rivers do run through part of > Bosque > > County. The 4 th or South Bosque might explain why the Little > Flock > > Primitive Baptist Church, community sign on I-35 at Temple points > toward > > Oglesby.. but it was in the Bosque Association of Churches., which > once > > reached to the Brazos River. Go to Bosque County Internet Site > and > > Primitiv \Baptist lists of member churches and several frontier > names > > found in Erath County will be in Bosque County Association links. > > Churches were small but had detailed membership records. > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi, Note the Mattie Mae Roberts who married Bill Somerville of West Monroe, La. She is a Wyly descendant and a fromer DAR and leader of the Natchitoches, La. Geneaology Society until her death. Bill called me to pick up several boxes of her research and writing- Some of the trails lead to Erath County My Great Great Great Grandad , Ga. Militia officer James Rutherford Wyly, War of 1812, Florida, was the brother of Elizabeth Wyly They were together when their mom Jemima Cleveland Wyly and Evangelist Edwards or Evan Eddards were taking a group with several children through the Cumberland Gap, 1796, when they were ambushed by Indians and Evan Edwards was killed. Col. Ben Cleveland gave his daughter Jemima East Felicianna Parrish, Clinton La. area land, where Elizabeth lived some with her4 mother who raised raised Edwards and Cleveland children. there. Descendants of William W. Roberts 1 William W. Roberts Abt 1829 - Aft 1884 . +Rebecca Ann Short Abt 1830 - Aft 1880 (Some Shorts had married into Moxley Family of Erath County). .......... 2 Young Anderson I Roberts 1856 - 1936 .............. +Mary A. Henderson 1853 - 1899 ...................... 3 James Willie Roberts 1877 - 1951 .......................... +Mary Theresa Telles 1882 - 1934 The Telles family was in Mayesville Arkansas before Oklahoma became Indian Teeritory and one Wyly of Tyler, Texas went north and also married a Telles, This family had some roots in Mexico. .................................. 4 Young Anderson II Roberts 1907 - 1981 ...................................... +Hazel Clayton Sparks 1910 - Unknown .............................................. 5 Mattie Mae Roberts 1929 - Abt 1993 .................................................. +William Pryor (Bill) Somerville 1927 -- a direct descendant of William The Conqueror of England, and a contractor who built levees and levelled farm land. in Luiisiana .......................................................... 6 William Shane Somerville .......................................................... 6 Jody Wayne Somerville Bill said Mattie was beginning to think that Brushy ( William) Bill Roberts AKA Billy Bonney AKA Billy McCarty, AKA Billy The Kid of Hico was related to her line. Descendants of Elijah Sparks 1 Elijah Sparks Unknown - Bef 1833 . +Judith Humphries Abt 1775 - Aft 1850 .......... 2 Thomas Kenneth Sparks 1807 - Abt 1860 .............. +Elizabeth Ingraham Wyly 1806 - 1870 ...................... 3 Malinda L. Sparks 1827 - ...................... 3 James Rutherford Sparks 1829 - ...................... 3 Robert W. (died young) Sparks 1831 - ...................... 3 Elija C. Sparks 1832 - ...................... 3 William J. (died young) Sparks 1834 - ...................... 3 Sarah A. Sparks 1836 - ...................... 3 Thomas J. Sparks 1832 - 1862 .......................... +Nancy A. Willbanks Abt 1820 - Abt 1870 .................................. 4 Dr.Augustus Harrison Sparks 1859 - 1947 ...................................... +Harriett Clayton Quillian 1858 - 1915 .............................................. 5 William Russell Sparks 1882 - 1963 .................................................. +Mattie Savannah Moore Abt 1886 - 1912 .......................................................... 6 Hazel Clayton Sparks 1910 - Unknown .............................................................. +Young Anderson II Roberts 1907 - 1981 ...................................................................... 7 Mattie Mae Roberts 1929 - Abt 1993 ......................................................................... . +William Pryor (Bill) Somerville 1927 - ......................................................................... ......... 8 William Shane Somerville ......................................................................... ......... 8 Jody Wayne Somerville ...................... 3 Unknown (died young) Sparks 1846 - Court records in East Felicianna Parrish, Clinton, La. near Tippah, Miss. have volumes of testimony by Gen James Rutherford Wyly, Ga. Militia, , John Cleveland, and Gen. Ben Cleveland, both of War of 1812, Florida. They kept Jemima's husband &distant cousin , a Cleveland.from trying to take over the children heirs Louisiana interests. James R. was comfortablly well off by then and Elizabeth was married and independent, so they claimed none of their mom's land. , including Edwards and Cleveland children. The land was given to jemima by her dad Co. Be Cleveland of Rev. War, N.C. Militia. Lots of Sparks families in Erath County. Also, in 1946-50 the head mechanic at Stephenville Wolfe's Nursery was "Sonny Boy" Roberts, when dad and I worked there seasomally , since shipping time was not usually prime farming time. Any missing links here? Charles A. Wyly

I don't know. I don't have them in my database, but maybe. Could you give me more info please? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles A. Wyly To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale Hi, would these families be connected to Grover Hale and son Halford Hale of Selden, Texas? Thanks, Charles Wyly On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:22:17 -0800 Rick & Susan Roberts <[email protected]> writes: > Jerri, > > Thank you for this information. > A couple of pieces to this puzzle. > Do you have more on this family ? > I would love to exchange information. > > Currently I am attempting to find proof of the parent/child > relationship between > Stephen Hale and Mary & John Hale. Would you happen to know anything > about John > Hale b 1757/1770? > > Thank you, > Susan Roberts > ROBERTS, CARR, HALE, BURNS,BAKER & SOME ?????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerri Ritter > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:38 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > > > Alexander Hale and wife, Sarah Ann "Sally" (Roberts) Hale's son, > James Piper > Hale married Margaret Ann Smith, and had a daughter, Dollie Marie > Hale b. 15 > Mar 1904, d. 17 May 1995, who married Frederick Barnes Tubbs, Sr. > > Jerri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "msgenbug" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS LOOK-UP PLEASE > > > > Susan - They're in Hopkins Co. The info is: > > > > Hopkins Co. TX, Black Jack Grove P.O., Pct. 4, pg. 145, family > #60, census > > date Sep 27 1870. > > > > Hale, Alexander, 36, farmer, VA > > Sarah, 36, keeping house, VA > > Laura, 14, NE > > Rosana, 10, VA > > Piper, 8, TX > > William, 7, TX > > Betty, 6, TX > > Elizabeth, 5, TX > > Robert, 3, TX > > Jennie, 3/12, TX > > > > Jan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick & Susan Roberts" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:17 PM > > Subject: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS LOOK-UP PLEASE > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does someone have the 1870 census for Erath County, Texas? > > > Would you be willing to look for: > > > > > > Alexander Hale born 1834, virginia > > > wife Sarah (Sallie) born 1832/4 virginia > > > hopefully including Robert L Hale born 1869? > > > > > > I would like to document Robert's parentage. > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Hi, would these families be connected to Grover Hale and son Halford Hale of Selden, Texas? Thanks, Charles Wyly On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:22:17 -0800 Rick & Susan Roberts <[email protected]> writes: > Jerri, > > Thank you for this information. > A couple of pieces to this puzzle. > Do you have more on this family ? > I would love to exchange information. > > Currently I am attempting to find proof of the parent/child > relationship between > Stephen Hale and Mary & John Hale. Would you happen to know anything > about John > Hale b 1757/1770? > > Thank you, > Susan Roberts > ROBERTS, CARR, HALE, BURNS,BAKER & SOME ?????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerri Ritter > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:38 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > > > Alexander Hale and wife, Sarah Ann "Sally" (Roberts) Hale's son, > James Piper > Hale married Margaret Ann Smith, and had a daughter, Dollie Marie > Hale b. 15 > Mar 1904, d. 17 May 1995, who married Frederick Barnes Tubbs, Sr. > > Jerri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "msgenbug" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS LOOK-UP PLEASE > > > > Susan - They're in Hopkins Co. The info is: > > > > Hopkins Co. TX, Black Jack Grove P.O., Pct. 4, pg. 145, family > #60, census > > date Sep 27 1870. > > > > Hale, Alexander, 36, farmer, VA > > Sarah, 36, keeping house, VA > > Laura, 14, NE > > Rosana, 10, VA > > Piper, 8, TX > > William, 7, TX > > Betty, 6, TX > > Elizabeth, 5, TX > > Robert, 3, TX > > Jennie, 3/12, TX > > > > Jan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick & Susan Roberts" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:17 PM > > Subject: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS LOOK-UP PLEASE > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does someone have the 1870 census for Erath County, Texas? > > > Would you be willing to look for: > > > > > > Alexander Hale born 1834, virginia > > > wife Sarah (Sallie) born 1832/4 virginia > > > hopefully including Robert L Hale born 1869? > > > > > > I would like to document Robert's parentage. > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi, Yes I am interested. And thanks for postingthe Wood Family History, as you well know, Garvin D. Wood married Olive Clara Wyly in Selden. Garvin livesd across the Duffau from us and Olive's dad Oliver Cromwell Wyly #3 or 4 in 3 generations, who was Grandad Henry's brother. Olive was raised by Great Great Uncle Bill ( William Sevier_) wyly and Hatchett wife in the house now restored by Kevin Wood, the 6 or 7 th generation to live there. I attnded church and Selden School with W.A., Wood and little brother Caroll Lynn Wood . Our distant Cousin the Baileys, were related to Wood and Carey in Arkansas. but you could write another book on these Arkansas connections in Erath County. Thanks, Charles Wyly On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:23:20 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" <[email protected]> writes: > > I haven't really been following this thread, but I do have > information on John > and Margaret Jones Copeland...their daughter Adoree Eliz. Copeland > who married > Charles Haynes Hale, and their children if anyone is interested. > My Best, Randy Haynes > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Jerri, Maybe giving you my husband's line would help you to know what to send?And what you would like from me. The further back we go, the more I have. Margie Esta Hale 1891-1966 Robert L. Hale 1867-? & Lillie Burns 1874-? Alexander Hale 1834-1871 & Sarah Ann Roberts 1834-1924 Stephen Marion Hale 1813-cr1880 & Rosamond B. Bourne 1818-1870 John Hale (III?) cr. 1757-1770-? & Mary B Hale cr. 1774 to ? (I do not know who John's parents were or on back. In fact I know nothing about John.) Mary's parents are: Lewis Hale 1742-1802 & Mary Burwell 1744-1809. Then these two on back. So anything you might have on these folks & collateral families would be great! My Best, Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerri Ritter To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale Susan, Yes, I have a lot more on the family. But--will have to check on Stephen, Mary, and John. Jerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick & Susan Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > Jerri, > > Thank you for this information. > A couple of pieces to this puzzle. > Do you have more on this family ? > I would love to exchange information. > > Currently I am attempting to find proof of the parent/child relationship between > Stephen Hale and Mary & John Hale. Would you happen to know anything about John > Hale b 1757/1770? > > Thank you, > Susan Roberts > ROBERTS, CARR, HALE, BURNS,BAKER & SOME ?????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerri Ritter > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:38 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > > > Alexander Hale and wife, Sarah Ann "Sally" (Roberts) Hale's son, James Piper > Hale married Margaret Ann Smith, and had a daughter, Dollie Marie Hale b. 15 > Mar 1904, d. 17 May 1995, who married Frederick Barnes Tubbs, Sr. > > Jerri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "msgenbug" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS LOOK-UP PLEASE > > > > Susan - They're in Hopkins Co. The info is: > > > > Hopkins Co. TX, Black Jack Grove P.O., Pct. 4, pg. 145, family #60, census > > date Sep 27 1870. > > > > Hale, Alexander, 36, farmer, VA > > Sarah, 36, keeping house, VA > > Laura, 14, NE > > Rosana, 10, VA > > Piper, 8, TX > > William, 7, TX > > Betty, 6, TX > > Elizabeth, 5, TX > > Robert, 3, TX > > Jennie, 3/12, TX > > > > Jan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick & Susan Roberts" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:17 PM > > Subject: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS LOOK-UP PLEASE > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does someone have the 1870 census for Erath County, Texas? > > > Would you be willing to look for: > > > > > > Alexander Hale born 1834, virginia > > > wife Sarah (Sallie) born 1832/4 virginia > > > hopefully including Robert L Hale born 1869? > > > > > > I would like to document Robert's parentage. > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl