>From Obits in Waco Tribune- Herald.com 3/20/2003 Wendel O. Montgomery passed away 3/17/2003 . Parents were Eul;a Catherine Cauble and and Dr. G.L. Montgomery of Aquilla, west Hill County, Texas. he married Georgia Morris of New York and was a pharmacist and owner of West Czech Kolache Bakery - or Village Bakery which supplied Czech pastries to the area from Ennis to Waco . and was on School board and organizer of West Longhorn Club and Rodeo and Westfest. I knew him in the 6 years I taught in West. he was an expert in History of Hooker, Carr, Cole, and many related families and the Mart Cole (Hooker Cave) near Abbott. He said his dad bought the old 2 story home enterring West from I-35 from Dr. Wylie, from Bosque County and ran hisa office and clinic there. One of his friends was the Aderholdt Family who builrt the West Funeral Home. Dr. Aderholdt came to West from Dublin, Texas area in early 1900's.

Hi....my name is Patty from California and I had a picture of my g-grandparents that had written on the back "The Rogers Place". They lived in Erath County in the mid 1800's. Would it be possible for you to send me a copy of that so I can see if it might be the same one that I have in one of my many boxes. Then we will go from there. Patty Amos [email protected] David Gilliam wrote: > I was going over some old photos of my grandparents and on the back it stated "The Rogers Place" Erath Co. I know that they lived on "The Hill Place" in Erath Co.,as share croppers. My grandparents were Tom and Betty Collum. Does anyone know where "The Rogers Place" might have been located? I would think that this would have been in the 30's time frame. > > Thanks! > > Jean > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl -- MZ

Randy, Thank you for the search for John and Nancy Holley. I know they lived in Erath county. I have Nancy's death cert. and it has place of residence as Dublin. So I assumed they lived in Dublin. She died in 1904 in Dublin. I just can't seem to find them. I am more interested in Nancy. She is my mystery woman. Appreciate the help you gave. Lynette

Lynette, I did a quick look through Dublin the city in the 1900 census rolls and did not find a HOLLEY family. It is possible I missed them since I scanned fast. Also...Perhaps they did not live in the city itself but outside the city? Do you know for sure? My Best, Randy Haynes lynette horner <[email protected]> wrote:does anyone have any information on JOHN and NANCY HOLLEY ? They lived in Dublin from 1890 to 1904. Appreciate any help. Thank you. ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I'm new to the list and need some help. Looking for the obit for Stella TAYLOR who died 1 Feb 1975 in or near Stephenville. Her husband was Mount TAYLOR and they moved to the area about 1925 form Franklin Co., TS. Would like to exchange Taylor family information with other researchers. Ralph from OK

Nancy, we've communicated before and already shared information. Let me welcome you to the list! My Best, Randy Haynes Nancy Beinhorn <[email protected]> wrote:Hi, List: I am a new poster to your list. I have several family connections to early Texas and wish to explore my family in Erath Co., TX. My great grandmother was Nancy Elizabeth Howard, b. 1837, Nacogdoches, TX who m. James Carroll Rogers in Stephenville, Erath Co., in 1857. They were married by Justice of the Peace Dooley, reportedly one of the early marriages in a log cabin that later burned. Nancy's sister was Mary Carolyn Howard, b. 1836, who married William Franklin Stephen. My grandfather, Thomas Pitts Rogers, was b. 1866, in Limestone Co., TX but was married to my grandmother, Florence Virginia Womack, also in Stephenville, TX. I also believe that Nancy and Mary's brother, Leander Guy Howard, lived in Erath Co. My distant cousin, Homer Stephen, now deceased, reported that he was buried in an unmarked grave in Erath Co. Our Howard "cousins" are now trying to find any information on Leander or any of our Howard family. I would love to hear from anyone who recognizes th! e names any of these early TX settlers. Thanks, Nancy in CA [email protected] ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Definitely!! Thank you for doing this for us. :-)) Edwina ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Asylum records > ****snipped by Edwina**** > she'd provide us a complete list that we could have Annette and > Janice post at the GenWeb Erath County page or add it to the GenWeb > archives so that we don't all make Glenda crazy with our questions. > And in addition to these original ledgers and indexes (indices?) > Tarleton also houses a large collection of filmed county records for > both Erath and Brown Counties. A list of those materials at GenWeb > would be useful too. I might could find time to compile that list and > post it over spring break. Would it be useful to anyone? > Cindy

Thanks Charles! I will let her know. Her name is Lynn Roberts and her dad was Tom Arendell. ~Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Arendell > Hi, yes, I will be glad to pool my info with hwes or yours. There was > also an Arnoldwho married int the Moxley family, sisters of my > grandmother, > > So faras proving Medical training- we have similar problems. Great Great > Grandad Dr. W.P. Hatchett was supposed to have attended Univ. of > Cincinatti with 2 brothers. T hey were all 3 Preachers, ordained by Rev. > B.T. Stevens or his brother- one is buried in Selden Cemetery. The Univ. > of Cincinatti says they have no records of their attendance or degrees. > One organized a Gonzales Church bewfore 1850 and at least 16 more , many > on the Bosque and Pony Creek. > > Correspondence Courses? Summer workshops? or did they " Read" Medicine > with an older Doctor. ? > I have a book of cures- home remedies and drugs ina a handwritten > notebook of his- everything in it could be bought over the counter is > some Grocery stores and mix your own medicine. Some are perscription > npow. > Charles A. Wyly > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:33:16 -0800 Bull & Janet <[email protected]> writes: > > Charles, > > I have been in contact with a cousin of my husband and she is an > > Arendell > > and looking for info on this family. Do you mind if I put her in > > contact > > with you? > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > > > > > > > Garvin's new wife is Dorothy Scrimsner, a Darnell- Hue=rley > > grandchild. > > > First Husband was Truett Carey, my Cousin. Then she Married Mutt > > Suitt, > > > who died a few years ago, about the time Olive Wyly Wood died. > > > > > > They live in the house between the Gin Lot and the old Baptising > > hole in > > > the bend of Simms Creek. Guess the new 2 story home he built > > therewas a > > > little big. Last year he lived there he had a Chinese Tarleton > > student > > > renting a room. The old Tom Arendell Cabin is restored by his home > > and > > > Dairy.not in Hamilton County as some history books say. The Cabin > > was > > > moved from the Moncrief Dairy and Garvin restoired it. Arendell > > children > > > amried Darnell- Arendell- Moxley, Higbee - and others related to > > Moxleys. > > > > > > > > > Take care, and Thanks. > > > > > > Charles Wyly > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:13:35 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" > > > <[email protected]> writes: > > > > > > > > Yes, it was me who posted the Wood info. at my old e-mail > > address. > > > > My mother told me that Garvin Wood just recently married again. > > He > > > > is in his > > > > late 80's....so sounds like he's doing quite well...a newlywed > > > > again. You go > > > > Garvin! I guess Olive passed away in 2000. I don't know his new > > > > wife's name. > > > > I also have tons of information on the: Watsons, Packs, and > > Stephen > > > > families. I > > > > think I posted some of that also, but don't remember exactly > > what. > > > > The Pack > > > > info. is extreemely large. It was started by Elwood Knox who put > > out > > > > a book on > > > > the family back in the 1970's. My Best, Randy Haynes > > > > "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> wrote:Yes. I got it, and > > Thanks. > > > > I was > > > > thinking this A.M. we should do more > > > > acknowledgement of new info which helps us. Just a short > > sentence > > > > would > > > > help. Thanks. > > > > > > > > Also was it you with a different E mail or another who posted > > the > > > > Wood > > > > Family History? I attended school and Church with Selden Wood > > family > > > > - > > > > their farm joined Uncle Lewis Wyly and cousin Lonnie Carey's > > > > Dairiesacross the Duffau from our house. Randy Wyly now has a > > Dairy > > > > on > > > > the Wood place and David Carey has his dad Lonnie's place- first > > > > bought > > > > by his Uncle George Carey, my Great Great Uncle. David has also > > > > bought > > > > the Odel Wright land to the Duffau Creek. The paved road from > > U.S. > > > > 67 > > > > past Selden Cemetery to Duffau now has a public - private owned > > > > TTruck > > > > scales for bulk feed and silage onold Johnson land across from > > > > David, > > > > going to Duffau. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Charles Wyly > > > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:09:16 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" > > > > writes: > > > > ***... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

I've looked in the genealogy room at Tarleton but there were no ledgers like I was looking for. Perhaps they are in the attic ...years ago when I was in high school, a friend worked at the library and took me up to look at all the neat old books ...it was great (of course that was over 30 years ago and things have changed I suspect!). I'll check with Glenda and see what she has to say. Thanks... kathy > I believe that the old records that are at Tarlton are in the genealogy room > on the second floor of the Tarleton library. I have seen them there. > I obtained my records straight from the hospital. I never had records of > the trial until after I had obtained the records from the hospital.

There is a collection of county records housed at Tarleton's Dick Smith Library. Ones that patrons use frequently are in the locked room on the main floor of the library and the others are in the attic. There is a binder there at the library that lists all the the materials that are in the collection and I don't know if those items are available by searching the online catalog of the library. Just in the past few days I have scanned the entire list twice looking for some records that I needed and I think I would have noticed something as exotic as an asylum log book, but I've locked myself out of my car twice in the last four days so who knows! Most of the county materials housed at Tarleton are county commissioner, county court, county school district, and odds and ends. Drop Glenda Stone an email at [email protected] for information about specific items in the collection. We should see if she'd provide us a complete list that we could have Annette and Janice post at the GenWeb Erath County page or add it to the GenWeb archives so that we don't all make Glenda crazy with our questions. And in addition to these original ledgers and indexes (indices?) Tarleton also houses a large collection of filmed county records for both Erath and Brown Counties. A list of those materials at GenWeb would be useful too. I might could find time to compile that list and post it over spring break. Would it be useful to anyone? Cindy ---- Original Message ---- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ERATH] Asylum records Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:49:54 -0800 >I believe that the old records that are at Tarlton are in the >genealogy room >on the second floor of the Tarleton library. I have seen them there. >I obtained my records straight from the hospital. I never had >records of >the trial until after I had obtained the records from the hospital. >Linda >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kathy Tate" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:32 AM >Subject: [ERATH] Asylum records > > >> The time I found the book, it was a number of years ago but when I >was >told >> that I would have to get a court order, that was maybe last year. >Yes, >the >> people have changed but the folks there now seem more eager to help >than >> they were some years ago. Orginally, the book was with the public >records >> but was no where in sight the last time I was there ...in fact, I >looked >> around in the basement for a long while before I asked. >> >> Cindy, as you keep your eyes open for the book, it was a very old, >small >> (maybe 8" X 12") book ...not like the ledgers the probate records >are kept >in. >> >> Someone told me that many of the old county records (the originals) >had >> been moved to Tarleton but when I asked there, they didn't know of >any (or >> course I might have asked someone that didn't know). I knew some >things >> were on film but I was puzzled by the disappearance of the book and >the >> fact no one knew anything about it. >> >> I've not had a lot of time to *really* dig into this ..too many >other >> things going on. If anyone runs across it, please let me know! >> >> Kathy >> >> >> > How long ago did you visit the Erath county courthouse to >research >> > this?? Just curious--maybe the people in charge have changed? >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >> --- Author Retains Copyright --- >> -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved >> Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com >> Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] >> ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> > > > > > >==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== >--- Author Retains Copyright --- >-- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved >Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com >Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] >ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

I believe that the old records that are at Tarlton are in the genealogy room on the second floor of the Tarleton library. I have seen them there. I obtained my records straight from the hospital. I never had records of the trial until after I had obtained the records from the hospital. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Tate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:32 AM Subject: [ERATH] Asylum records > The time I found the book, it was a number of years ago but when I was told > that I would have to get a court order, that was maybe last year. Yes, the > people have changed but the folks there now seem more eager to help than > they were some years ago. Orginally, the book was with the public records > but was no where in sight the last time I was there ...in fact, I looked > around in the basement for a long while before I asked. > > Cindy, as you keep your eyes open for the book, it was a very old, small > (maybe 8" X 12") book ...not like the ledgers the probate records are kept in. > > Someone told me that many of the old county records (the originals) had > been moved to Tarleton but when I asked there, they didn't know of any (or > course I might have asked someone that didn't know). I knew some things > were on film but I was puzzled by the disappearance of the book and the > fact no one knew anything about it. > > I've not had a lot of time to *really* dig into this ..too many other > things going on. If anyone runs across it, please let me know! > > Kathy > > > > How long ago did you visit the Erath county courthouse to research > > this?? Just curious--maybe the people in charge have changed? > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi, yes, I will be glad to pool my info with hwes or yours. There was also an Arnoldwho married int the Moxley family, sisters of my grandmother, So faras proving Medical training- we have similar problems. Great Great Grandad Dr. W.P. Hatchett was supposed to have attended Univ. of Cincinatti with 2 brothers. T hey were all 3 Preachers, ordained by Rev. B.T. Stevens or his brother- one is buried in Selden Cemetery. The Univ. of Cincinatti says they have no records of their attendance or degrees. One organized a Gonzales Church bewfore 1850 and at least 16 more , many on the Bosque and Pony Creek. Correspondence Courses? Summer workshops? or did they " Read" Medicine with an older Doctor. ? I have a book of cures- home remedies and drugs ina a handwritten notebook of his- everything in it could be bought over the counter is some Grocery stores and mix your own medicine. Some are perscription npow. Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:33:16 -0800 Bull & Janet <[email protected]> writes: > Charles, > I have been in contact with a cousin of my husband and she is an > Arendell > and looking for info on this family. Do you mind if I put her in > contact > with you? > Janet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > > > > Garvin's new wife is Dorothy Scrimsner, a Darnell- Hue=rley > grandchild. > > First Husband was Truett Carey, my Cousin. Then she Married Mutt > Suitt, > > who died a few years ago, about the time Olive Wyly Wood died. > > > > They live in the house between the Gin Lot and the old Baptising > hole in > > the bend of Simms Creek. Guess the new 2 story home he built > therewas a > > little big. Last year he lived there he had a Chinese Tarleton > student > > renting a room. The old Tom Arendell Cabin is restored by his home > and > > Dairy.not in Hamilton County as some history books say. The Cabin > was > > moved from the Moncrief Dairy and Garvin restoired it. Arendell > children > > amried Darnell- Arendell- Moxley, Higbee - and others related to > Moxleys. > > > > > > Take care, and Thanks. > > > > Charles Wyly > > > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:13:35 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" > > <[email protected]> writes: > > > > > > Yes, it was me who posted the Wood info. at my old e-mail > address. > > > My mother told me that Garvin Wood just recently married again. > He > > > is in his > > > late 80's....so sounds like he's doing quite well...a newlywed > > > again. You go > > > Garvin! I guess Olive passed away in 2000. I don't know his new > > > wife's name. > > > I also have tons of information on the: Watsons, Packs, and > Stephen > > > families. I > > > think I posted some of that also, but don't remember exactly > what. > > > The Pack > > > info. is extreemely large. It was started by Elwood Knox who put > out > > > a book on > > > the family back in the 1970's. My Best, Randy Haynes > > > "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> wrote:Yes. I got it, and > Thanks. > > > I was > > > thinking this A.M. we should do more > > > acknowledgement of new info which helps us. Just a short > sentence > > > would > > > help. Thanks. > > > > > > Also was it you with a different E mail or another who posted > the > > > Wood > > > Family History? I attended school and Church with Selden Wood > family > > > - > > > their farm joined Uncle Lewis Wyly and cousin Lonnie Carey's > > > Dairiesacross the Duffau from our house. Randy Wyly now has a > Dairy > > > on > > > the Wood place and David Carey has his dad Lonnie's place- first > > > bought > > > by his Uncle George Carey, my Great Great Uncle. David has also > > > bought > > > the Odel Wright land to the Duffau Creek. The paved road from > U.S. > > > 67 > > > past Selden Cemetery to Duffau now has a public - private owned > > > TTruck > > > scales for bulk feed and silage onold Johnson land across from > > > David, > > > going to Duffau. > > > > > > Thanks, Charles Wyly > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:09:16 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" > > > writes: > > > ***... > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

I love the Erath list....ya'll are such a good source of info about all kinds of things and have such a wonderful history to tell. Now I have a question and hope one of you can help me. I am trying to find out where my husband's g-grandfather, Timothy Woodward Shugart, went to medical school and where would I find him listed as a doctor in Texas? He is listed in the 1880 census(Comanche Co. living w/his brother-in-law, William D. Cox) as a physician. Next I find him in the 1900 census(Erath Co., thanks to Randy Haynes!) listed as a druggist(pharmacist). According to family, he filled both positions throughout his career. Can anyone tell me where I need to start looking for this information? I am a genealogy babe and don't have a clue as where to begin. Thanks, Erath list for any help in this area. ~Janet

Charles, I have been in contact with a cousin of my husband and she is an Arendell and looking for info on this family. Do you mind if I put her in contact with you? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] 1870 CENSUS, Alexander Hale > Garvin's new wife is Dorothy Scrimsner, a Darnell- Hue=rley grandchild. > First Husband was Truett Carey, my Cousin. Then she Married Mutt Suitt, > who died a few years ago, about the time Olive Wyly Wood died. > > They live in the house between the Gin Lot and the old Baptising hole in > the bend of Simms Creek. Guess the new 2 story home he built therewas a > little big. Last year he lived there he had a Chinese Tarleton student > renting a room. The old Tom Arendell Cabin is restored by his home and > Dairy.not in Hamilton County as some history books say. The Cabin was > moved from the Moncrief Dairy and Garvin restoired it. Arendell children > amried Darnell- Arendell- Moxley, Higbee - and others related to Moxleys. > > > Take care, and Thanks. > > Charles Wyly > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:13:35 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" > <[email protected]> writes: > > > > Yes, it was me who posted the Wood info. at my old e-mail address. > > My mother told me that Garvin Wood just recently married again. He > > is in his > > late 80's....so sounds like he's doing quite well...a newlywed > > again. You go > > Garvin! I guess Olive passed away in 2000. I don't know his new > > wife's name. > > I also have tons of information on the: Watsons, Packs, and Stephen > > families. I > > think I posted some of that also, but don't remember exactly what. > > The Pack > > info. is extreemely large. It was started by Elwood Knox who put out > > a book on > > the family back in the 1970's. My Best, Randy Haynes > > "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> wrote:Yes. I got it, and Thanks. > > I was > > thinking this A.M. we should do more > > acknowledgement of new info which helps us. Just a short sentence > > would > > help. Thanks. > > > > Also was it you with a different E mail or another who posted the > > Wood > > Family History? I attended school and Church with Selden Wood family > > - > > their farm joined Uncle Lewis Wyly and cousin Lonnie Carey's > > Dairiesacross the Duffau from our house. Randy Wyly now has a Dairy > > on > > the Wood place and David Carey has his dad Lonnie's place- first > > bought > > by his Uncle George Carey, my Great Great Uncle. David has also > > bought > > the Odel Wright land to the Duffau Creek. The paved road from U.S. > > 67 > > past Selden Cemetery to Duffau now has a public - private owned > > TTruck > > scales for bulk feed and silage onold Johnson land across from > > David, > > going to Duffau. > > > > Thanks, Charles Wyly > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:09:16 -0800 "HaynesO'Neil" > > writes: > > ***... > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

The time I found the book, it was a number of years ago but when I was told that I would have to get a court order, that was maybe last year. Yes, the people have changed but the folks there now seem more eager to help than they were some years ago. Orginally, the book was with the public records but was no where in sight the last time I was there ...in fact, I looked around in the basement for a long while before I asked. Cindy, as you keep your eyes open for the book, it was a very old, small (maybe 8" X 12") book ...not like the ledgers the probate records are kept in. Someone told me that many of the old county records (the originals) had been moved to Tarleton but when I asked there, they didn't know of any (or course I might have asked someone that didn't know). I knew some things were on film but I was puzzled by the disappearance of the book and the fact no one knew anything about it. I've not had a lot of time to *really* dig into this ..too many other things going on. If anyone runs across it, please let me know! Kathy > How long ago did you visit the Erath county courthouse to research > this?? Just curious--maybe the people in charge have changed? >

Hi, List: I am a new poster to your list. I have several family connections to early Texas and wish to explore my family in Erath Co., TX. My great grandmother was Nancy Elizabeth Howard, b. 1837, Nacogdoches, TX who m. James Carroll Rogers in Stephenville, Erath Co., in 1857. They were married by Justice of the Peace Dooley, reportedly one of the early marriages in a log cabin that later burned. Nancy's sister was Mary Carolyn Howard, b. 1836, who married William Franklin Stephen. My grandfather, Thomas Pitts Rogers, was b. 1866, in Limestone Co., TX but was married to my grandmother, Florence Virginia Womack, also in Stephenville, TX. I also believe that Nancy and Mary's brother, Leander Guy Howard, lived in Erath Co. My distant cousin, Homer Stephen, now deceased, reported that he was buried in an unmarked grave in Erath Co. Our Howard "cousins" are now trying to find any information on Leander or any of our Howard family. I would love to hear from anyone who recognizes th! e names any of these early TX settlers. Thanks, Nancy in CA [email protected]

Your email cleared some long dormant cobwebs. I recall Doc Terrell treating my grandmother, Maude Edmonds for cancer in the late '40's and early '50's. I was then in my early teens, but old enough at that time to contribute blood. We would go to his clinic where we lay side by side while the transfer was in progress. I can also recall when I was very young, probably 4-6, going to the wake of a neighbor, Mr. Lott, the open coffin setting in the parlor draped in cheesecloth, candles lite throwing shadows across the dimly lite room, numerous neighbors sitting around quietly carrying on conversations. Outside, women sat on the front porch in cane bottomed chairs, while the men stood in the front yard propped against the large blackjack oaks. It was an eerie time for a little fellow. Clyde Edmonds Rick & Susan Roberts wrote: > Wow, what a story! > Thank you. > SR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charles A. Wyly > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:46 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH]: Asylum in or near Austin > > Hi, > someone asked about treatment and conditions in these asylums or homes. > May I tell that I was born in 1929 in Johnsville, Texas. and beat Dr. > Naylor to our house an hour or two. We lived on old crooked dirt U.S. > 67. New straight U.S. 67 was being built. Land owners could pay taxes by > working on road projects with their horses. Not all new bridges were > finished. Dad was crossing the prairie branch of the Duffau which ran > across U.S. 67 into Pony Creek and Hurrley- riggs- Wakefield- land and > north of Crockett School, then turned back across U.S. 67 towards > Evergreen. One bridge was out- not finished, so Dad got in his Model T. > Pickup with side curtains and pulled the gas and spark levers down full > throtle and jumped and bounced across the muddy creek> He brought Dr. > Naylor back down the old dirt U.S. 67 from old Evergreen, 3 miles down > Hwy 281. Aunt Mary was at the home and not sure who else,but they had the > box wood heater burning and me in a box south of it. Dr. Naylor said > they gave me a hot reception. > > Mom and Mrs. Ned (Ida Head) Gristy used to sometimes serve as midwives. > One neighbor - a renter- had a premature baby - born dead, and they and > the father wrapped it in a blanket and buried it on a fence Row- no money > for a Doctor or Funeral home. How did they know what to do? Some of that > can be explained as Dr. Spangleror was it Dr. Reed"? at Tarleton Junior > College that folk back then never used Veterinarians except during > Anthrax scares. He pointed out to us that it took similar knowledge to > deliver a calf and a baby human and there were other similarities in > cattle and human health , such as Mastitis and other diseases . The > gestation period was the same.so was Mastitis and mineral needs. He even > pointed out that nutrition needs were very similar for infant and adult > humans and cows. > > Also, they were still carrying Corpses back to the front room of the home > back then. Flies and varmits were a problem . That is why coffins open > for viewing had a white mosquito net over the open lid. We sat up all > night in shifts when one member im my ROTC Class - Franklin Conger, > passed away near the old Wood Furniture Store. he was a church organist > and Football player. His mom requested a Military Funeral - I was the > Squad Leader and others in it were Paulbearers. We sat up all night in > shifts because of custom dictated by the older generation which had to > keep pets away from the corpse and be there when Rigor Mortis set in - > in 1700-1800's Irish had Wakes in the room aand drank a little to scare > the evil Spirits from stealing as Rigor Mortis saat in and " The Spirit > was shaking loose from the lump of Clay it had lived in". They thought > the Evil Spirtits might steal the spirit of the deceased before it was > free. > > The State homes were not negligent in treating. One of first > Hudrocephalic (Water Head) baby surgeries was from Abilene, State Home - > I saw her at Mexia, age 2o + - The Therapist- case worker asked me to > feel the rubber tube run down from her brain toher kidney to drain the > fluid in absence of the normal ducts and drainage. Today I think they put > a shunt or stint in besides the tube. She was 20 and never been out of > bed and could not talk. I doubt that a farm wife with a grandparent or 2 > and 6 to 10 kids could have kept the girl alive that long- no electricy, > or running water, or indoor bathrooms or lights or Air Conditioning. This > girl was getting better care than an overworked mother could provide and > not neglect all her other responsibilities. > > Drs. Naylor and Terrell and others could issue a report to a Judge and > the Judge could send them to a State Home- sometimes short term , > sometimes to death I knew one in Austin who lived to age 93 . so someone > must have been giving him care. Shock treatments in a wet blanket were > used in Stephenville Hospital into 1940-s but fading swiftly No Drunk got > too far gone to protest being caried the Stephenville Hospital back > then. One Chalk Mountain man spent 4 -5 years in asylum nd returned home > in apparent perfect health. in 1953 when I was finishing Tarleton after > Korean War. > > Ewell Jones told the ROTC boys in my squad the history and traditions of > the Wake ( We call it a Visitation now), the symbolic meanings of > headstone masymbols and such and why Christian Graves were always turned > East and West, not on a modern curved drive. Orlan Weems was a member of > my ROTC squad. > Take care, > Charles Wyly > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:26:00 -0800 Linda Bowden <[email protected]> > writes: > > My husband had an anscestor that went to the hospital in San Antonio. > > We > > were able to obtain the records for her. There was no problem. We > > submitted proof that she was related and they sent us her records. > > We later > > asked if we could replace the marker on her grave with one that > > contained > > her information and they allowed and greatly approved that. > > You should not have any trouble getting the information that you > > need. The > > relation that we had there died of epilepsy.....or at least that is > > what > > they called her violent seisures. For all we know it may have been > > a brain > > tumor. Medical knowledge was limited in 1900. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "HaynesO'Neil" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:14 PM > > Subject: RE: [ERATH]: Asylum in or near Austin > > > > > > > > > > I was trained at the State Psychiatric Hospital in Austin in the > > 1970's. I > > > worked there a semester on and off. I can say from my own > > experience that > > these > > > facilities are humane, and the patients get excellent care, they > > are in no > > way a > > > "good" place to be. The people there are "institutional" for the > > most > > part. They > > > are very seriiously ill and couldn't survive in any normal > > setting. > > > > > > In 1900 the conditions would have been infinitly worse since that > > is long > > before > > > modern medications. The type of treatment many people received > > would be > > > considered barbaric by modern standards. Of course, they did the > > best they > > could > > > do at the time with the limited knowledge they had. > > > > > > Ausitn has the psychiatric hospital and schools for the blind, > > deaf, and > > > mentally retarted. I am certain each of these maintain records, > > but I have > > no > > > idea how accessable they might be. Contact the state hospital in > > Austin > > and I'm > > > sure they can point you in the right direction. My Best, Randy > > Haynes > > > > > > > > > Terry W Antoine <[email protected]> wrote:Is there any > > information about > > > patients in that Austin area asylum > > > available anywhere?? I am trying to track someone who supposed > > spent > > > some time there about that time (1900-1910)? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kathy Tate [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 7:09 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] > > > > > > > > > There was also the "lunatic assylum" in (or near) Austin that > > Erath > > > county residents were being sent to in the 1900 to 1910 time > > period. > > > > > > > > > > People in these parts were still being sent to the state > > hospital at > > > > Terrell during that time period. > > > > > > > >>any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San > > > >>ANtonio around the 1900's > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Hi, People in State homes were usually committed by order of a District- maybe some county Judge You didn't drive down and commit someone like enterring a local medical hospital. This kept someone from commiting an unpopular relative in violatio of his Civil Rights. Judge William Wayne Justice of Tyler rulad thatthis was necessaryforpatient protection. He went beyond the Doctor's recomendation and said handicapped children and severely retarded or epileptic had Civil Rights and it was the local school's job to educate them , with maximum possible mainstreaming and some self contained. As a Retired teacher who passed Special Education State Exams for certification, I sometimes substitute teach inthat field and have lots of school computer calls to sub in self Contained rooms. One I worked had students with Downs Syndrome (NTSU and Tarleton profs in 1950's called it Mongoloid"Today , one in Midwayn Schools carry groceries to our cars and others work for Goodwill and other sheltered environments. Some pick up litter on Highways. In one class we had one with severe Tourette Syndrome outbursts, sometimes silent. The teacher would physically restrain him on a mattress and talk soothingly to him until he was not a danger to himself I get School District Computer calls to sub in self Contained "Life Skills" classes in grades 1 thru 8. The recording says, Must be able to feed and change diapers on students, some in Wheel chairs, up to 6 th or 7 th grade. We also have them in elecrtic wheelchairs going to P.E. with mannstreamed and honors students. In the past one would send them to one of the State Schools for handicapped like Abilene, Denton, and Mexia.Now that is one option. One can still send some severe cases to special Rest Homes,but Judge Justice's rulings say they cannot be physically detained or fenced in without a Court order saying there are a danger to themselves. I knew one case- grown child of Incest, who was brought to a Rest Home , and custody was signed over to the State, and the kin who brought her said that they were not to be called again even if she died. She required full time care and kept someone from church and normal social life Afterwards she had full time trained professionals careing for her, but even she could not be locked in or fenced in Most do not want toleave a place of security. Take care, charles A. Wyly On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:46:08 -0800 Linda Bowden <[email protected]> writes: > Maybe I misunderstood. I wasn't talking about the Erath County > Courthouse. > I was talking about the State Hospital in San Antonio. > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry W Antoine" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:38 PM > Subject: RE: [ERATH] State Asylum in or near Austin > > > > How long ago did you visit the Erath county courthouse to research > > this?? Just curious--maybe the people in charge have changed? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kathy Tate [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:15 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ERATH] State Asylum in or near Austin > > > > > > Terry, > > I tried to locate information about patients in the asylum in > Austin in > > the 1900-1910 time period and was told that all those records had > been > > either lost or destroyed over the years. > > > > I ran across a very old (late 1800's to early 1900's) "asylum > record" in > > the Erath county courthouse basement and found a family name but > was > > short on time (and wasn't sure it was *my* family) so didn't > follow up > > on it. Later I went back and couldn't find the book so asked for > help > > locating it ...was told that the book was NOT public record and I > would > > need a court order to see it. Only problem is, they didn't know > > anything about the book. That's when I tried to locate the asylum > > records in Austin (where he supposedly had been sent). No luck > there > > either! > > > > If you locate any asylum records, or other sources of information, > > please let me know. I don't know if the man they commited is the > person > > I'm looking for, but I'm at a brick wall and any lead would help. > > > > Thanks... > > Kathy > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Is there any information about > > >>patients in that Austin area asylum > > >>available anywhere?? I am trying to track someone who supposed > spent > > >>some time there about that time (1900-1910)? > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Wow, what a story! Thank you. SR ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles A. Wyly To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH]: Asylum in or near Austin Hi, someone asked about treatment and conditions in these asylums or homes. May I tell that I was born in 1929 in Johnsville, Texas. and beat Dr. Naylor to our house an hour or two. We lived on old crooked dirt U.S. 67. New straight U.S. 67 was being built. Land owners could pay taxes by working on road projects with their horses. Not all new bridges were finished. Dad was crossing the prairie branch of the Duffau which ran across U.S. 67 into Pony Creek and Hurrley- riggs- Wakefield- land and north of Crockett School, then turned back across U.S. 67 towards Evergreen. One bridge was out- not finished, so Dad got in his Model T. Pickup with side curtains and pulled the gas and spark levers down full throtle and jumped and bounced across the muddy creek> He brought Dr. Naylor back down the old dirt U.S. 67 from old Evergreen, 3 miles down Hwy 281. Aunt Mary was at the home and not sure who else,but they had the box wood heater burning and me in a box south of it. Dr. Naylor said they gave me a hot reception. Mom and Mrs. Ned (Ida Head) Gristy used to sometimes serve as midwives. One neighbor - a renter- had a premature baby - born dead, and they and the father wrapped it in a blanket and buried it on a fence Row- no money for a Doctor or Funeral home. How did they know what to do? Some of that can be explained as Dr. Spangleror was it Dr. Reed"? at Tarleton Junior College that folk back then never used Veterinarians except during Anthrax scares. He pointed out to us that it took similar knowledge to deliver a calf and a baby human and there were other similarities in cattle and human health , such as Mastitis and other diseases . The gestation period was the same.so was Mastitis and mineral needs. He even pointed out that nutrition needs were very similar for infant and adult humans and cows. Also, they were still carrying Corpses back to the front room of the home back then. Flies and varmits were a problem . That is why coffins open for viewing had a white mosquito net over the open lid. We sat up all night in shifts when one member im my ROTC Class - Franklin Conger, passed away near the old Wood Furniture Store. he was a church organist and Football player. His mom requested a Military Funeral - I was the Squad Leader and others in it were Paulbearers. We sat up all night in shifts because of custom dictated by the older generation which had to keep pets away from the corpse and be there when Rigor Mortis set in - in 1700-1800's Irish had Wakes in the room aand drank a little to scare the evil Spirits from stealing as Rigor Mortis saat in and " The Spirit was shaking loose from the lump of Clay it had lived in". They thought the Evil Spirtits might steal the spirit of the deceased before it was free. The State homes were not negligent in treating. One of first Hudrocephalic (Water Head) baby surgeries was from Abilene, State Home - I saw her at Mexia, age 2o + - The Therapist- case worker asked me to feel the rubber tube run down from her brain toher kidney to drain the fluid in absence of the normal ducts and drainage. Today I think they put a shunt or stint in besides the tube. She was 20 and never been out of bed and could not talk. I doubt that a farm wife with a grandparent or 2 and 6 to 10 kids could have kept the girl alive that long- no electricy, or running water, or indoor bathrooms or lights or Air Conditioning. This girl was getting better care than an overworked mother could provide and not neglect all her other responsibilities. Drs. Naylor and Terrell and others could issue a report to a Judge and the Judge could send them to a State Home- sometimes short term , sometimes to death I knew one in Austin who lived to age 93 . so someone must have been giving him care. Shock treatments in a wet blanket were used in Stephenville Hospital into 1940-s but fading swiftly No Drunk got too far gone to protest being caried the Stephenville Hospital back then. One Chalk Mountain man spent 4 -5 years in asylum nd returned home in apparent perfect health. in 1953 when I was finishing Tarleton after Korean War. Ewell Jones told the ROTC boys in my squad the history and traditions of the Wake ( We call it a Visitation now), the symbolic meanings of headstone masymbols and such and why Christian Graves were always turned East and West, not on a modern curved drive. Orlan Weems was a member of my ROTC squad. Take care, Charles Wyly On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:26:00 -0800 Linda Bowden <[email protected]> writes: > My husband had an anscestor that went to the hospital in San Antonio. > We > were able to obtain the records for her. There was no problem. We > submitted proof that she was related and they sent us her records. > We later > asked if we could replace the marker on her grave with one that > contained > her information and they allowed and greatly approved that. > You should not have any trouble getting the information that you > need. The > relation that we had there died of epilepsy.....or at least that is > what > they called her violent seisures. For all we know it may have been > a brain > tumor. Medical knowledge was limited in 1900. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HaynesO'Neil" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:14 PM > Subject: RE: [ERATH]: Asylum in or near Austin > > > > > > I was trained at the State Psychiatric Hospital in Austin in the > 1970's. I > > worked there a semester on and off. I can say from my own > experience that > these > > facilities are humane, and the patients get excellent care, they > are in no > way a > > "good" place to be. The people there are "institutional" for the > most > part. They > > are very seriiously ill and couldn't survive in any normal > setting. > > > > In 1900 the conditions would have been infinitly worse since that > is long > before > > modern medications. The type of treatment many people received > would be > > considered barbaric by modern standards. Of course, they did the > best they > could > > do at the time with the limited knowledge they had. > > > > Ausitn has the psychiatric hospital and schools for the blind, > deaf, and > > mentally retarted. I am certain each of these maintain records, > but I have > no > > idea how accessable they might be. Contact the state hospital in > Austin > and I'm > > sure they can point you in the right direction. My Best, Randy > Haynes > > > > > > Terry W Antoine <[email protected]> wrote:Is there any > information about > > patients in that Austin area asylum > > available anywhere?? I am trying to track someone who supposed > spent > > some time there about that time (1900-1910)? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kathy Tate [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 7:09 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ERATH] > > > > > > There was also the "lunatic assylum" in (or near) Austin that > Erath > > county residents were being sent to in the 1900 to 1910 time > period. > > > > > > > People in these parts were still being sent to the state > hospital at > > > Terrell during that time period. > > > > > >>any one know anything about the insane hospital that was in San > > >>ANtonio around the 1900's > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Maybe I misunderstood. I wasn't talking about the Erath County Courthouse. I was talking about the State Hospital in San Antonio. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry W Antoine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: RE: [ERATH] State Asylum in or near Austin > How long ago did you visit the Erath county courthouse to research > this?? Just curious--maybe the people in charge have changed? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Tate [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ERATH] State Asylum in or near Austin > > > Terry, > I tried to locate information about patients in the asylum in Austin in > the 1900-1910 time period and was told that all those records had been > either lost or destroyed over the years. > > I ran across a very old (late 1800's to early 1900's) "asylum record" in > the Erath county courthouse basement and found a family name but was > short on time (and wasn't sure it was *my* family) so didn't follow up > on it. Later I went back and couldn't find the book so asked for help > locating it ...was told that the book was NOT public record and I would > need a court order to see it. Only problem is, they didn't know > anything about the book. That's when I tried to locate the asylum > records in Austin (where he supposedly had been sent). No luck there > either! > > If you locate any asylum records, or other sources of information, > please let me know. I don't know if the man they commited is the person > I'm looking for, but I'm at a brick wall and any lead would help. > > Thanks... > Kathy > > > >> > >> > >> Is there any information about > >>patients in that Austin area asylum > >>available anywhere?? I am trying to track someone who supposed spent > >>some time there about that time (1900-1910)? > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >