Hi, not sure aboiut the conmnections but one Slaughter ran the Slaughter (Rexall?) Drug store on the square in Stephenville, 1930's. George Slaughter, descendant of Col. C.C. Slaughter, married Janice Wyly, daughter of Ben Wyly , who sold his business interests in 1880's and came to Stephenville about 1890 and ran a store and sold the Rawhide (hardwood_ lumber his son in law or nephew , cut in Dublin before moving to west of San Angelo. One still operates there. Col. Slaughter's statue on his horse is near the Buckner's Orphan Home in Dqallas. One source says that George and Janice were married in Fort Worth and moved to the Slaughter Ranch land around Lubbock, Levelland, Plainview and west into New Mexico. Janice and son Donaho Wyly Slaughter came to a Stephenville Wyly Reunion appx. 1990. Some of her kin from Tyler, came also. The family has donated a Line shack with a dugout center below ground level for winter, a Windmill, and other buildings to the Texas Tech Ranch Heritagre Museum in Lubbock. It is surrounded by a tall dirt Brem next to the Buddy Holly Museum. My Wife's dad and mom bought some of the Slaughter Ranch about 1920, windmill and later found an underground stream which would pump a full 10" pipe for irrigation, near Pettit, Texas. The Whiteface Farms were once part of the Slaughter Ranch The Ranch home and several acres are left as it was in 1900 , facing the Lubbock Highway. George and janice lived in Roswell many years. Don closed his Albequerque law office and focuses on Roswell and Hockley County and other nearby interests. Once again, I do not know the connections of all of the above Sl;aughters, but they left tracks in Texas and New Mexico. The Slaughter I have taught with in Waco is of African American background. Happy Hunting, charles Wyly On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:44:29 -0700 R Wolff <[email protected]> writes: > HIP HIP > HARRAH! > > > I found my grandfather in the 1900 CENSUS RECORDS !!! He > worked in the > Brickyard - "hiring" > > My grandfather: > Wm Slaughter ... He and his wife Sarah ( sallie) and children were > living > in Thurber City, Erath Texas, Precinct 7. > > In 1900 he was 35 years old, B IL IL IL. His father John R. > SLAUGHTER, > mother, Nancy C Gossage of TN. Each and every census record gives > different places of his birth. MO and IL. One is wrong. Which is > right? > > *** 1870 Records, Stone Fort, Pope County Illinois *** > Slaughter John, 25 b IL Nancy C, 20 b TN William R, > 2 Anderson 6mth. > hmmm maybe Alice NOT Anderson? I wonder if census taker made AKKKK a > mistake? > > 1880 Census Records, Grand Pier, Pope County IL > William and Nancy Williams Children: Mary Williams, John Williams. > and > living in their household are: William and Alice, listed as step > children. > Elijah Williams is noted in the 1900 and later census records. Mary > L, b > 1875 John R, b 1879 Elijah, b 1887 > > *Mary apparently stayed with her mother all her life. > Searching for her death as well as John R and Elijah. > > My Slaughter Grands, as I call them, had 3 children while > they lived in > Thurber City area before moving to Bisbee, Cochise County Arizona. > > 1900 Census of Thurber, Erath listed: > *Burl ( aka Rufus Burl), b 1895 > *Minnie ( Minnie Alice) b 1897 > *Myrtle ( Myrtle Belle). b 1898 > > 1910 Census of Bisbee, Cochise listed: > **William Henry Slaughter b TX ( 1902) > **Pearl Ophelia b TX (1910). > Grandma didn't make it back to TX for the birth of John/Jack Enness > b AZ > 1907. > > I have information regarding my TX- AZ aunts, uncles, nieces/ > nephews as > related to William and Sarah Slaughter; with information gleaned > from census > records, IL IRAD database; other online resources, and personal > research. > > * 1867 marriage of my great grandparents John R and Nancy C > Gossage, > SLAUGHTER, Williams 1867, Pope County Illinois. > > Alice Slaughter b 1869 stayed in Pope county Illinois, she married a > Gilliam > and they raised their family just down the road from her mother's > farm. > Online records indicate she died in Sikeston MO. I would love to > hear from > any of her relations. > > *** Research’s Notes & Musings and Meanderings *** > June 1880 Nancy C Williams applied for widows benefits of John R > SLAUGHTER. > I'm assuming that John R Slaughter has died. > Searching for his death/burial and his parentage. > > 1887 Nancy C Williams applies and later received widows pension for > William > P. Williams. > Searching for his death/burial and parentage and siblings. > > Searching for this particular WILLIAMS and allied families of: > GOSSAGE > WILLIAMS GILLIAM AND SLAUGHTER of southern Illinois Pope > County in > particular. > > Who else of those allied families might have made the journey along > with my > grandfather when his travels took him to Erath County Texas area > after 1880? > > 1880 census records have my grandfather Wm R Slaughter living G. W. > Gossage > household, and also living in the household of his mother and > stepfather. > But I believe the Gossage and Williams farms were close by. ( But > that is > my supposition.) > > Searching for information of when he arrived in TX. What other areas > of the > country did he live/work in after he left Grand Pier, Pope county IL. > > His sister Alice married and stayed in the area, his step brothers > John and > Elijah and s-sister Mary stayed on the family farm with their mother > Nancy; > and as I discovered through researching the census records they later > acquired additional acreage and raised their families on their own > property. > > Searching for my relatives of Nancy and William Williams of Grand > Pier, > Pope County Illinois? I would love to know of them. I have no > additional > information of their lives, loves, and losses, all the knowledge I > have > relating to their lives I have gleaned from online resources. > > Searching for family of Alice Slaughter Gilliam of Illinois - MO > heritage. > > CARTER - SLAUGHTER Line Begins 1894 Hill County TX > > * Sarah Ophelia4 Carter (Silas Monk3, William J.2, John J.1) > was born July > 13, 1866 in Warren Co., Mississippi, and died February 17, 1948 in > Sacramento County, California. She married William Richard Slaughter > December 23, 1894 in Hill County, Texas. > > * Her sister, Mary Elizabeth4 Carter (Silas Monk3, William > J.2, John J.1) > was born October 21, 1877 in Shubuta, Clarke County, Mississippi, > and died > October 12, 1963 in Eastland, Eastland Co., Texas. She married > Reverend > John Robert Slaughter August 23, 1894 in Athens, Henderson County, > Texas, > son of William Slaughter and Sarah Harper. He was born August 19, > 1872 in > Athens, Henderson County, Texas, and died February 15, 1959 in > Eastland, > Eastland Co., Texas. > > *** This family lived in Stephenville, Erath TX during the same time > period > as my Grands were living in Thurber City. Any SLAUGHTER with > connections to > Rev John Robert Slaughter. I have an information source for CARTER > researchers of that Slaughter marriage. > > *** I specifically am researching my Slaughter line trying -very- :( > to > locate solid family connection/information of my great-grandfather > John R > Slaughter b 1846 regarding his parents and siblings *** > > Also does any lister know of additional information > resources I could use > to determine the year when William RICHARD Slaughter left Pope > County IL > and began his travels that took him to Thurber City, Erath TX for 10 > +/- > years ending 1936 Douglas Hospital, Douglas, Cochise AZ. His grave > is > located in the Bisbee Cemetery. > > In 1900 Grandma Sarah (Sallie) was 33 years old. ((( In 15 > years she had > 9 children))) 7 lived. Her last child was born when she was 45. > Amazing > how strong and sturdy those frontier women were. > > When or if you copy any of my information to apply and post to > your online > family records email me before you do so, as I may have additional > or > updated information not included here. > > My family records are current as to this instant. Ha! I know > there are > still family members hiding. It has been my delight and strife in > finding > them. > > Sincerely, Norma Slaughter as rwolff of Arizona a > great-granddaughter of > John R Slaughter and Nancy C Gossage of IL and TN b 1846 -- 1848. > > My CARTER Cousin is researching the CARTER family of my > SLAUGHTER/CARTER > family. She has done a wonderful job in documenting her research > and was > kind enough to share her work with me. Thank you Holly. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

I have a SLAUGHTER in my database. His name was Hyram B Slaughter, born April 27, 1903, in Callahan Co., TX. He died March 16, 1997, in Breckenridge, Stephens Co., TX. He married Ruth Mae HARRISON about 1920-1922 and their daughter was named Constance Jean Slaughter, born April 21, 1933. Also, I would like to know more about your CARTERs. I have an Oscar Wilde Carter, born Stephenville, Erath Co., TX, in 1888. He married my mother's sister, Berlin MCKINNEY. He died in Breckenridge in 1975. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Wolff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: [ERATH] Slaughter, Thurber City 1900 > HIP HIP > HARRAH! > > > I found my grandfather in the 1900 CENSUS RECORDS !!! He worked in the > Brickyard - "hiring" > > My grandfather: > Wm Slaughter ... He and his wife Sarah ( sallie) and children were living > in Thurber City, Erath Texas, Precinct 7. > > In 1900 he was 35 years old, B IL IL IL. His father John R. SLAUGHTER, > mother, Nancy C Gossage of TN. Each and every census record gives > different places of his birth. MO and IL. One is wrong. Which is right? > > *** 1870 Records, Stone Fort, Pope County Illinois *** > Slaughter John, 25 b IL Nancy C, 20 b TN William R, 2 Anderson 6mth. > hmmm maybe Alice NOT Anderson? I wonder if census taker made AKKKK a > mistake? > > 1880 Census Records, Grand Pier, Pope County IL > William and Nancy Williams Children: Mary Williams, John Williams. and > living in their household are: William and Alice, listed as step children. > Elijah Williams is noted in the 1900 and later census records. Mary L, b > 1875 John R, b 1879 Elijah, b 1887 > > *Mary apparently stayed with her mother all her life. > Searching for her death as well as John R and Elijah. > > My Slaughter Grands, as I call them, had 3 children while they lived in > Thurber City area before moving to Bisbee, Cochise County Arizona. > > 1900 Census of Thurber, Erath listed: > *Burl ( aka Rufus Burl), b 1895 > *Minnie ( Minnie Alice) b 1897 > *Myrtle ( Myrtle Belle). b 1898 > > 1910 Census of Bisbee, Cochise listed: > **William Henry Slaughter b TX ( 1902) > **Pearl Ophelia b TX (1910). > Grandma didn't make it back to TX for the birth of John/Jack Enness b AZ > 1907. > > I have information regarding my TX- AZ aunts, uncles, nieces/ nephews as > related to William and Sarah Slaughter; with information gleaned from census > records, IL IRAD database; other online resources, and personal research. > > * 1867 marriage of my great grandparents John R and Nancy C Gossage, > SLAUGHTER, Williams 1867, Pope County Illinois. > > Alice Slaughter b 1869 stayed in Pope county Illinois, she married a Gilliam > and they raised their family just down the road from her mother's farm. > Online records indicate she died in Sikeston MO. I would love to hear from > any of her relations. > > *** Research's Notes & Musings and Meanderings *** > June 1880 Nancy C Williams applied for widows benefits of John R SLAUGHTER. > I'm assuming that John R Slaughter has died. > Searching for his death/burial and his parentage. > > 1887 Nancy C Williams applies and later received widows pension for William > P. Williams. > Searching for his death/burial and parentage and siblings. > > Searching for this particular WILLIAMS and allied families of: GOSSAGE > WILLIAMS GILLIAM AND SLAUGHTER of southern Illinois Pope County in > particular. > > Who else of those allied families might have made the journey along with my > grandfather when his travels took him to Erath County Texas area after 1880? > > 1880 census records have my grandfather Wm R Slaughter living G. W. Gossage > household, and also living in the household of his mother and stepfather. > But I believe the Gossage and Williams farms were close by. ( But that is > my supposition.) > > Searching for information of when he arrived in TX. What other areas of the > country did he live/work in after he left Grand Pier, Pope county IL. > > His sister Alice married and stayed in the area, his step brothers John and > Elijah and s-sister Mary stayed on the family farm with their mother Nancy; > and as I discovered through researching the census records they later > acquired additional acreage and raised their families on their own property. > > Searching for my relatives of Nancy and William Williams of Grand Pier, > Pope County Illinois? I would love to know of them. I have no additional > information of their lives, loves, and losses, all the knowledge I have > relating to their lives I have gleaned from online resources. > > Searching for family of Alice Slaughter Gilliam of Illinois - MO heritage. > > CARTER - SLAUGHTER Line Begins 1894 Hill County TX > > * Sarah Ophelia4 Carter (Silas Monk3, William J.2, John J.1) was born July > 13, 1866 in Warren Co., Mississippi, and died February 17, 1948 in > Sacramento County, California. She married William Richard Slaughter > December 23, 1894 in Hill County, Texas. > > * Her sister, Mary Elizabeth4 Carter (Silas Monk3, William J.2, John J.1) > was born October 21, 1877 in Shubuta, Clarke County, Mississippi, and died > October 12, 1963 in Eastland, Eastland Co., Texas. She married Reverend > John Robert Slaughter August 23, 1894 in Athens, Henderson County, Texas, > son of William Slaughter and Sarah Harper. He was born August 19, 1872 in > Athens, Henderson County, Texas, and died February 15, 1959 in Eastland, > Eastland Co., Texas. > > *** This family lived in Stephenville, Erath TX during the same time period > as my Grands were living in Thurber City. Any SLAUGHTER with connections to > Rev John Robert Slaughter. I have an information source for CARTER > researchers of that Slaughter marriage. > > *** I specifically am researching my Slaughter line trying -very- :( to > locate solid family connection/information of my great-grandfather John R > Slaughter b 1846 regarding his parents and siblings *** > > Also does any lister know of additional information resources I could use > to determine the year when William RICHARD Slaughter left Pope County IL > and began his travels that took him to Thurber City, Erath TX for 10 +/- > years ending 1936 Douglas Hospital, Douglas, Cochise AZ. His grave is > located in the Bisbee Cemetery. > > In 1900 Grandma Sarah (Sallie) was 33 years old. ((( In 15 years she had > 9 children))) 7 lived. Her last child was born when she was 45. Amazing > how strong and sturdy those frontier women were. > > When or if you copy any of my information to apply and post to your online > family records email me before you do so, as I may have additional or > updated information not included here. > > My family records are current as to this instant. Ha! I know there are > still family members hiding. It has been my delight and strife in finding > them. > > Sincerely, Norma Slaughter as rwolff of Arizona a great-granddaughter of > John R Slaughter and Nancy C Gossage of IL and TN b 1846 -- 1848. > > My CARTER Cousin is researching the CARTER family of my SLAUGHTER/CARTER > family. She has done a wonderful job in documenting her research and was > kind enough to share her work with me. Thank you Holly. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Is anyone on this list researching the above? Mell

HIP HIP HARRAH! I found my grandfather in the 1900 CENSUS RECORDS !!! He worked in the Brickyard - "hiring" My grandfather: Wm Slaughter ... He and his wife Sarah ( sallie) and children were living in Thurber City, Erath Texas, Precinct 7. In 1900 he was 35 years old, B IL IL IL. His father John R. SLAUGHTER, mother, Nancy C Gossage of TN. Each and every census record gives different places of his birth. MO and IL. One is wrong. Which is right? *** 1870 Records, Stone Fort, Pope County Illinois *** Slaughter John, 25 b IL Nancy C, 20 b TN William R, 2 Anderson 6mth. hmmm maybe Alice NOT Anderson? I wonder if census taker made AKKKK a mistake? 1880 Census Records, Grand Pier, Pope County IL William and Nancy Williams Children: Mary Williams, John Williams. and living in their household are: William and Alice, listed as step children. Elijah Williams is noted in the 1900 and later census records. Mary L, b 1875 John R, b 1879 Elijah, b 1887 *Mary apparently stayed with her mother all her life. Searching for her death as well as John R and Elijah. My Slaughter Grands, as I call them, had 3 children while they lived in Thurber City area before moving to Bisbee, Cochise County Arizona. 1900 Census of Thurber, Erath listed: *Burl ( aka Rufus Burl), b 1895 *Minnie ( Minnie Alice) b 1897 *Myrtle ( Myrtle Belle). b 1898 1910 Census of Bisbee, Cochise listed: **William Henry Slaughter b TX ( 1902) **Pearl Ophelia b TX (1910). Grandma didn't make it back to TX for the birth of John/Jack Enness b AZ 1907. I have information regarding my TX- AZ aunts, uncles, nieces/ nephews as related to William and Sarah Slaughter; with information gleaned from census records, IL IRAD database; other online resources, and personal research. * 1867 marriage of my great grandparents John R and Nancy C Gossage, SLAUGHTER, Williams 1867, Pope County Illinois. Alice Slaughter b 1869 stayed in Pope county Illinois, she married a Gilliam and they raised their family just down the road from her mother's farm. Online records indicate she died in Sikeston MO. I would love to hear from any of her relations. *** Research’s Notes & Musings and Meanderings *** June 1880 Nancy C Williams applied for widows benefits of John R SLAUGHTER. I'm assuming that John R Slaughter has died. Searching for his death/burial and his parentage. 1887 Nancy C Williams applies and later received widows pension for William P. Williams. Searching for his death/burial and parentage and siblings. Searching for this particular WILLIAMS and allied families of: GOSSAGE WILLIAMS GILLIAM AND SLAUGHTER of southern Illinois Pope County in particular. Who else of those allied families might have made the journey along with my grandfather when his travels took him to Erath County Texas area after 1880? 1880 census records have my grandfather Wm R Slaughter living G. W. Gossage household, and also living in the household of his mother and stepfather. But I believe the Gossage and Williams farms were close by. ( But that is my supposition.) Searching for information of when he arrived in TX. What other areas of the country did he live/work in after he left Grand Pier, Pope county IL. His sister Alice married and stayed in the area, his step brothers John and Elijah and s-sister Mary stayed on the family farm with their mother Nancy; and as I discovered through researching the census records they later acquired additional acreage and raised their families on their own property. Searching for my relatives of Nancy and William Williams of Grand Pier, Pope County Illinois? I would love to know of them. I have no additional information of their lives, loves, and losses, all the knowledge I have relating to their lives I have gleaned from online resources. Searching for family of Alice Slaughter Gilliam of Illinois - MO heritage. CARTER - SLAUGHTER Line Begins 1894 Hill County TX * Sarah Ophelia4 Carter (Silas Monk3, William J.2, John J.1) was born July 13, 1866 in Warren Co., Mississippi, and died February 17, 1948 in Sacramento County, California. She married William Richard Slaughter December 23, 1894 in Hill County, Texas. * Her sister, Mary Elizabeth4 Carter (Silas Monk3, William J.2, John J.1) was born October 21, 1877 in Shubuta, Clarke County, Mississippi, and died October 12, 1963 in Eastland, Eastland Co., Texas. She married Reverend John Robert Slaughter August 23, 1894 in Athens, Henderson County, Texas, son of William Slaughter and Sarah Harper. He was born August 19, 1872 in Athens, Henderson County, Texas, and died February 15, 1959 in Eastland, Eastland Co., Texas. *** This family lived in Stephenville, Erath TX during the same time period as my Grands were living in Thurber City. Any SLAUGHTER with connections to Rev John Robert Slaughter. I have an information source for CARTER researchers of that Slaughter marriage. *** I specifically am researching my Slaughter line trying -very- :( to locate solid family connection/information of my great-grandfather John R Slaughter b 1846 regarding his parents and siblings *** Also does any lister know of additional information resources I could use to determine the year when William RICHARD Slaughter left Pope County IL and began his travels that took him to Thurber City, Erath TX for 10 +/- years ending 1936 Douglas Hospital, Douglas, Cochise AZ. His grave is located in the Bisbee Cemetery. In 1900 Grandma Sarah (Sallie) was 33 years old. ((( In 15 years she had 9 children))) 7 lived. Her last child was born when she was 45. Amazing how strong and sturdy those frontier women were. When or if you copy any of my information to apply and post to your online family records email me before you do so, as I may have additional or updated information not included here. My family records are current as to this instant. Ha! I know there are still family members hiding. It has been my delight and strife in finding them. Sincerely, Norma Slaughter as rwolff of Arizona a great-granddaughter of John R Slaughter and Nancy C Gossage of IL and TN b 1846 -- 1848. My CARTER Cousin is researching the CARTER family of my SLAUGHTER/CARTER family. She has done a wonderful job in documenting her research and was kind enough to share her work with me. Thank you Holly. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thanks for sharing this. I wondered why there would be two of them. This is a neat story. Sandra Van Wyk ----- Original Message ----- From: "cmcrouch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:59 AM Subject: RE: [ERATH] Upper and Lower Green Creek Cemeteries, Erath County > I am not a contact for the cemetery, but have several family members > buried there including a greatgrandfather and mother. The history of the > cemetery is that the Baptist and the Methodist couldn't agree to use the > same cemetery due to the Upper Greens Creek Cemetery is located on > Baptist property; so the Methodist established the Lower Greens Creek > Cemetery for Methodist. Church disputes are nothing new. > Charles Crouch > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra Van Wyk [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 8:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Upper and Lower Green Creek Cemeteries, Erath > County > > > Hi Jerry, > > Thanks for the reply. I forget to use www.topozone.com to find > cemeteries. > It shows it much closer to Stephenville than the Upper Cemetery. You're > right, it's on the east side of Hwy 377. Does your book give a contact > for > a cemetery association, if there is one. > > Thanks, > Sandra > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruth & Jerry Shugart" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 4:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Upper and Lower Green Creek Cemeteries, Erath > County > > > > Lower Green Creek Cem. is on 377 just a little West of the turn > > off to Green Creek Church. My book says it is 4 miles N.E. of > > Dublin South side of 377. It is small and > > well kept. > > Jerry > > > > > >

Sandra, Sorry, I do not have a contact. Jerry

I am not a contact for the cemetery, but have several family members buried there including a greatgrandfather and mother. The history of the cemetery is that the Baptist and the Methodist couldn't agree to use the same cemetery due to the Upper Greens Creek Cemetery is located on Baptist property; so the Methodist established the Lower Greens Creek Cemetery for Methodist. Church disputes are nothing new. Charles Crouch -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Van Wyk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ERATH] Upper and Lower Green Creek Cemeteries, Erath County Hi Jerry, Thanks for the reply. I forget to use www.topozone.com to find cemeteries. It shows it much closer to Stephenville than the Upper Cemetery. You're right, it's on the east side of Hwy 377. Does your book give a contact for a cemetery association, if there is one. Thanks, Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth & Jerry Shugart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Upper and Lower Green Creek Cemeteries, Erath County > Lower Green Creek Cem. is on 377 just a little West of the turn > off to Green Creek Church. My book says it is 4 miles N.E. of > Dublin South side of 377. It is small and > well kept. > Jerry > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Hi Jerry, Thanks for the reply. I forget to use www.topozone.com to find cemeteries. It shows it much closer to Stephenville than the Upper Cemetery. You're right, it's on the east side of Hwy 377. Does your book give a contact for a cemetery association, if there is one. Thanks, Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth & Jerry Shugart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Upper and Lower Green Creek Cemeteries, Erath County > Lower Green Creek Cem. is on 377 just a little West of the turn > off to Green Creek Church. My book says it is 4 miles N.E. of > Dublin South side of 377. It is small and > well kept. > Jerry > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

My great-great grandparents Rufus and Ann Green Birdsell moved to Daffau, Erath County about 1859. Rufus donated a acre of land for a school and was known for a long time as the Birdsell school house. He died there 1 Sept 1883 and is buried in the Cemetery that was beside the School House. I think the Cemetery may now be known as Millerville Cemetery. Rufus was a farmer and a stockraiser. Several children was born to Rufus and Ann. There are two daughters that I have nothing on but their birth years and marriage records. I thought maybe someone on the list may have some info on them or their spouses. The daughters were, Lucinda born about 1864 married C.H. Wright, Martha A. born about 1867 married J. Barnett. Is anyone research the Wright or Barnett family? Mell

Charles Marvin Crouch searching for more information on Erath Crouch, Pryor, Henry.

Are you having trouble finding graves in Central Texas area? Waco Tribune- Herald May 25, 2003, page 1B has an interesting article on the 22 Cemeteries on the Army Base. Google.Com should be able to find it for you on the Internet at Wacotrib.com 4 can be visited only on Memorial Day- Bethel , Ruth, Friendship and Hubbard (Not in Hill county) .Cemeteries are open to visitors only on Memorial Day. Most date back to late 1800's. Some are near county or State roads and can be visited throught the year by checking with Fort Hood officials. Some, near Highways are more easily accessble. Military units have undertaken care of these cemeteries at least twice a year, like our "Adopt a Highway" state program. Spouses of those buried there can make special arrangements to be buried by their spouse. Cheryl Huckerby is Fort Hood Staff Archeologist in charge the Fort HoodCultural Resources Management Program of the 2,200 Archeological sites on Fort Hood dating back 9,000 years. Communities no longer in existence include harmony, Turnover, Schly, and Owl Creek. The cemeteries are on detailed maps and soldiers in training take pride in preserving them. Plans once included taking in land to Valley Mills, but this was never completed. Locals , some being drafted, sold land at less than market value and waited for the Federal money over a year. Leased land for maneuvers was restored, terraced, and re- fenced. Some of the Fort land has cattle on it- they are sometimes in danger of Artilery fire- but owners are notified if they want to move them. Take Care, Charles A. Wyly

Lower Green Creek Cem. is on 377 just a little West of the turn off to Green Creek Church. My book says it is 4 miles N.E. of Dublin South side of 377. It is small and well kept. Jerry

Is there someone who lives in Erath County who can help me find the Lower Green Creek Cemetery, which should be near Harbin, or south of Stephenville. Yesterday we found the Upper Green Creek Cemetery, but not the Lower Cemetery. Are they the same? About 8-10 miles south of Stephenville on Hwy 377, we saw a sign to Green Creek Baptist Church to the right or west of 377. We followed that road which deadends at the church. The Upper Green Creek Cemetery is to the left. Where is the Lower Green Creek Cemetery? Thanks for your help, Sandra Van Wyk

Hi, Nancy Beinholm- , Straighten me out on the Womacks. They are listed as Scotch- Irish immigrants in 1600- early 1700's. Yet the ones dad taught in Bosque County I thought were of German or Norwegian origin. Dad said the entire first Grade in Harmony School near Meridian spoke Norwegian, including a Womak or Womack . and between Clifton and Whitney is Womack Church and hall. I thought they were Lutheran. One of them married a distant Hatchett Cousin of mine in Boisque County and best I remember they are buried in Indian Creek Cemetery, Erath County. I have several Womacks in the Hatchett Family Tree- . Weren't some involved in Texas Revolution but the Norwegians had not found the Bosque Valley and prairie between it and the Brazos. Will apreciate any input on this. Charles A. Wyly

Charles: Loved your story about your experiences in the Bosque Flood of 1952. Sounds like you were a lucky guy. We must have had "weather" all over about that time. I'm from the San Joaquin Valley in CA and our farm bordered the Tule River for a quarter of a mile. When I was about 8 or 9 we had "the flood" and all the top soil was washed off our place. Dad has spent several years leveling the two farms he had bought for CASH in early 1940s. I remember he pulled out a roll of bills from his pocket and paid one owner for his property. Dad grew up during the depression and never charged anything in his life. Paid cash for cars, tractors, etc. He worked for a trucking firm days and farmed other hours - when I don't know. He was paid 50 cents a day. After losing several years work putting marginal land into production by himself, he had to get our place back together. We had a caterpillar tractor that Dad drove into one of the washed out holes back of the barn and he stood on the top of it while Mom took a picture. You could only see the top of the exhaust pipe and Dad from about the knees up. Fortunately our old house was built on a high point and we were never in danger of washing away as you were. I can't recall what happened to the livestock - cows, a couple of horses, chickens, etc. Even though it was the late 40s for this flood, we still had an outhouse and I remember wading out to it during the flood - yuk! Not too many years later, the Army Corps of Engineers built a dam in mountains east of home. Only had one more time of high water when we did have monsoon rains and they had to open the floodgates and let the water down which did overflow the banks of the Tule in a few places or the dam would have washed out. Water was already going around the sides of the dam at the time. As you can see, your "flood" story brought back memories of high waters, but your story tops mine. Enjoyed reading it. Nancy in CA (HOWARD/STEPHEN/ROGERS/WOMACK/BURLESON/SPARKS/DAVIS/ALEXANDER/CURL/ WHITE/BARBEE/STRACENER/OTHERs-direct and collateral lines) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Albritton Hi, you mentioned Looney family. In 1952, Ansil or Ancil Looney was running an auto repair shop on south Graham in Stephenville, across the street from Hubert Waugh and C.T. Carr after him- a Service station. Mom's brother Emmett Carey had an auto repair shop next to Mr. Boggus - s home. I was attending Tarleton and lived in a Garage apartment in Mr. Bogguse's home place. The Record fliid hit the Bosque in 1952- bove the 75 year water mark on ancient Oak trees near the Hwy 67-281 low water crossing behind the Dunson Convenience store, 1950's style. I lost a Buick and a Pontiac in the flood- and all books and notes 1 week before finals. the shop had 5 feet of water in it. The Garage went over at an angle when Water heater blew up and got my attention. A pecan tree held the tilted apartment and kept me from waking up in Hico or a fence in that direction. Ansil kept several Milk trucks and other farm equipment running with used parts after he left the Army. Can't remember his brother's name. Ansil's dad was elderly and limped, but ran a wrecking and used parts yard at Hwy 67 and 281 Bypass, across from present County Jail and Sheriff's office. He made a lot of money there during WW2 when new parts went to the Military, 1941-46. He used his pocket for his office when not in his shop office and made change on the spot. he showed you the vehicle and sometimes you removed it. I used some of his parts to repair farm vehicles and autos while working part time in Uncle Emmett's shop. Only other parts came from Mexico- "Bootleg". They fit and worked but sometimes did not closely appear to be the same on exterior finish. A washateria and parts store replaced Looney's shop.You will notice they are elevated on concrete slabs , they thought were above the Bosque Flood level. the 1952 Flood was running between homes 6 houses north of the Boggus Home. Some Tarleton students - one of whom married my wife's roommate at Tarleton, tied rubber hose together and worked their way down to rescue me before something else happened. Stephenville Fire Dept. stood on hill by Earl Singleton's Electronics repair shop and watched, then carried me to Stephenville Hospital for cold water exposure. There was hail and cattle coming down the Bosque. Somelive cattle were pulled out near Hico. Some got caught in fences and undertow. Two other young married men were brought to my ward at Hospital. They spent several hours on top of a Truck cab across from present Foster's Home- 2 or 3oo yards up Huckaby Highway. Knee Deep water stalled their Milk Truck and they hung to a tarp, nailed to the bed, and sat in the cold water on the truck cab2 or 3 hours before someone saw them in a flash of lightning and gotthem out some way- a National Guard truck was used some. They said they saw several dairy cows float by, some Mooing for help or Fright. Cows can float and swim some.Contrary t the College poem "Strawberry Summer" which indicated that cows sink like a rock and are usually found nearby. I challegenged the author's story at NTSU Denton the next year, based on Experience. That author never lived on the Bosque River. Take care, Charles A. Wyly Ring any bells? On Wed, 21 May 2003 21:01:29 -0700 Nancy Beinhorn <[email protected]> writes: > Hi: > > Couldn't help but respond to your posting. I'm a descendant of > Howards/Rogers/Womacks who were in Erath Co. early on and in > Nacogdoches, > Smith, and McLennan Counties even before that before Erath Co. was > formed. > Other family connections with our line are Barbees, Whites, Stephens, > Straceners, and more. I have found that lots of our extended > family are > buried in the Barbee Cemetery. In particular, the children of my > gr. gr. > grandfather, John H. Howard, and wife Sarah G. Burleson, who were in > early > Erath Co. Children were Emily Ann Howard was the wife of Rufus Bean > White, > Mary Caroline Howard was the wife of Wm. F. Stephen, Nancy Elizabeth > Howard > was the wife of James Carroll Rogers, Harriett Matilda Howard was > the wife > of Wm. Henry Stracener, and their brother was Leander Guy Howard who > lived > and died in Erath Co., TX. He was a Texas Ranger during his time > there. > Nancy Elizabeth Howard/James Carroll Rogers (my gr. grandparents) > were > married in Stephenville as were my grandparents, Thomas Pitts Rogers > and > Florence Virginia Womack. I even inherited some communications with > NaHomer > Stephen from the 1960s from his research and articles he wrote for > the local > newspaper. He must have been a character. > > While born/raised in CA, after doing lots of TX research, I feel very > connected to family history there. The above names are on my mom's > side, > but wouldn't you know it? Dad's family came through TX too and I am > now > digging for those roots. > > Nancy in CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Theresa Wentz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Albritton > > > I am a little late reading this message but I have Whisenant > relatives > buried in the Barbee Cemetery. Since they have a prominent section > in that > cemetery, I have sure that they knew the Barbees. Do you know about > this > cemetery? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:29 PM > Subject: [ERATH] Albritton > > > First, this is definitely the most endearing, entertaining and > informative > of > all the mail lists (and there are many) in which I partake. > > Second, to those of you I've not had the pleasure of > meetingâ?"â?"greetings. > I > am Dana Stripling, granddaughter to Melvin Durward Barbee, of the > Barbee and > > Looney lines in Erath County. The lil' Jones-Barbee cabin which was > moved > into downtown Dublin belonged to my ancestors. > > Third, from a completely different side of the family, some of my > Louisiana/Georgia/North Carolina family ended up in Dublin and > Stephenville. > > specifically, my great, great, great Aunt, Harriet Louisa ALBRITTON, > and > Terrell BRYAN married in Bienville Parish, LA on 20 Feb 1855. They > were in > Erath County for a while after their marriage. Harriet and Terrell > lived in > > Stephenville, and their son, Redic Bryan, moved to Dublin around > 1898 or > 1899. I was wondering if anyone had any information on this line? > > Fourth, ironically, before we even knew of Harriet's existence (a > product of > > some GenForum diggins), my grandmother, Laura Irene ALBRITTON, met > and > married Durward in the very, very small town of Campti Louisiana. > Durward > brought her back to Dublin. Odd that both ALBRITTONS would end up > back in > Erath County. Odder still, I thought -- what was my grandfather > (some 20 > years old at the time) doing in Campti, of all places, selling > mules? He > must have had some connection to Louisiana. and, indeed, in the > Parish in > which Campti is placed and surrounding areas, i have found many a > BARBEE in > the cemeteries and records. but i have not yet made the connection. > but, > it > certainly seems in all this research, particularly back in the early > and mid > > 1800s -- family followed family. that there is generally some > familial > connection whenever a relative packed up and moved or visited > somewhere > else. > does anyone have any information that might link NW Louisiana to > Dublin and > > Stephenville? > > Many thanks for your indulgence in my rambling. Keep the wonderful > tales > coming. > > Best regards. > Dana Stripling > Researching: ALBRITTON, BARBEE, BERRY, BRETT, BURLESON, CARR, > DEBLIEUX, > FREEMAN, HALSELL, HART, HICKS, HOWARD, KINGSBURY, LOONEY, MCDANIEL, > MURPHY, > NEWMAN, PENICK, SANDEL, SIMMONS, STEPHENSON, STRIPLING, SULLIVAN, > VAN HOOSE, > > WHITE > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Hello Charles Wylie, I wanted to ask you if you knew the Carter family in Erath Co., TX. My Aunt Berlin McKinney, married Oscar Wilde Carter, September 30, 1919, in Stephenville, TX. Uncle Oscar was born December 5, 1888, in Stephenville. Aunt Berlin was born in Palo Pinto Co., TX. A Carter researcher sent me information that the parents of Uncle Oscar were William A Carter and Lillie E White. That's all the information I have on his background. Two girls were born to Aunt Berlin and Uncle Oscar: Evelyn Florene, born July 7, 1920, in Mingus, TX; and Vivian, born May 10, 1923, also in Mingus. This week I received a copy of the 1920 census for the Carters in Erath Co., Part of Prec # 7. ( where was that located?) It shows Oscar as male, white, 30. Refused to give place of birth & Dad's place of birth, mother, born TN.; Also, Berlin, female, white, 17, born TX . Father born TN, and mother, born GA. I have in my family records that Aunt Berlin was born 1900, so she should be 18, census taken in Feb, 1920. It gave his occupation as stable hand for T P Cosa Co (sp?) I'm wondering if that could be T P Coal? I would appreciate hearing from you concerning this family. The only thing I remember hearing about Uncle Oscar as a young man, was he went to Washington state and also Oregon for a time before he married. I remember him telling me how pretty it was up there. Also, he and Aunt Berlin were very musical. She played the piano wonderfully well and he played the violin. They were so good to me and incouraged me with my piano playing and allowed me to play with them. That was a real treat. My family had mucicals at home and several would be playing. I tried to write you off the list and I no longer have your correct e-mail address. Will appreciate help with this family. Dortha McElroy Greenlee

Hi, you mentioned Looney family. In 1952, Ansil or Ancil Looney was running an auto repair shop on south Graham in Stephenville, across the street from Hubert Waugh and C.T. Carr after him- a Service station. Mom's brother Emmett Carey had an auto repair shop next to Mr. Boggus - s home. I was attending Tarleton and lived in a Garage apartment in Mr. Bogguse's home place. The Record fliid hit the Bosque in 1952- bove the 75 year water mark on ancient Oak trees near the Hwy 67-281 low water crossing behind the Dunson Convenience store, 1950's style. I lost a Buick and a Pontiac in the flood- and all books and notes 1 week before finals. the shop had 5 feet of water in it. The Garage went over at an angle when Water heater blew up and got my attention. A pecan tree held the tilted apartment and kept me from waking up in Hico or a fence in that direction. Ansil kept several Milk trucks and other farm equipment running with used parts after he left the Army. Can't remember his brother's name. Ansil's dad was elderly and limped, but ran a wrecking and used parts yard at Hwy 67 and 281 Bypass, across from present County Jail and Sheriff's office. He made a lot of money there during WW2 when new parts went to the Military, 1941-46. He used his pocket for his office when not in his shop office and made change on the spot. he showed you the vehicle and sometimes you removed it. I used some of his parts to repair farm vehicles and autos while working part time in Uncle Emmett's shop. Only other parts came from Mexico- "Bootleg". They fit and worked but sometimes did not closely appear to be the same on exterior finish. A washateria and parts store replaced Looney's shop.You will notice they are elevated on concrete slabs , they thought were above the Bosque Flood level. the 1952 Flood was running between homes 6 houses north of the Boggus Home. Some Tarleton students - one of whom married my wife's roommate at Tarleton, tied rubber hose together and worked their way down to rescue me before something else happened. Stephenville Fire Dept. stood on hill by Earl Singleton's Electronics repair shop and watched, then carried me to Stephenville Hospital for cold water exposure. There was hail and cattle coming down the Bosque. Somelive cattle were pulled out near Hico. Some got caught in fences and undertow. Two other young married men were brought to my ward at Hospital. They spent several hours on top of a Truck cab across from present Foster's Home- 2 or 3oo yards up Huckaby Highway. Knee Deep water stalled their Milk Truck and they hung to a tarp, nailed to the bed, and sat in the cold water on the truck cab2 or 3 hours before someone saw them in a flash of lightning and gotthem out some way- a National Guard truck was used some. They said they saw several dairy cows float by, some Mooing for help or Fright. Cows can float and swim some.Contrary t the College poem "Strawberry Summer" which indicated that cows sink like a rock and are usually found nearby. I challegenged the author's story at NTSU Denton the next year, based on Experience. That author never lived on the Bosque River. Take care, Charles A. Wyly Ring any bells? On Wed, 21 May 2003 21:01:29 -0700 Nancy Beinhorn <[email protected]> writes: > Hi: > > Couldn't help but respond to your posting. I'm a descendant of > Howards/Rogers/Womacks who were in Erath Co. early on and in > Nacogdoches, > Smith, and McLennan Counties even before that before Erath Co. was > formed. > Other family connections with our line are Barbees, Whites, Stephens, > Straceners, and more. I have found that lots of our extended > family are > buried in the Barbee Cemetery. In particular, the children of my > gr. gr. > grandfather, John H. Howard, and wife Sarah G. Burleson, who were in > early > Erath Co. Children were Emily Ann Howard was the wife of Rufus Bean > White, > Mary Caroline Howard was the wife of Wm. F. Stephen, Nancy Elizabeth > Howard > was the wife of James Carroll Rogers, Harriett Matilda Howard was > the wife > of Wm. Henry Stracener, and their brother was Leander Guy Howard who > lived > and died in Erath Co., TX. He was a Texas Ranger during his time > there. > Nancy Elizabeth Howard/James Carroll Rogers (my gr. grandparents) > were > married in Stephenville as were my grandparents, Thomas Pitts Rogers > and > Florence Virginia Womack. I even inherited some communications with > NaHomer > Stephen from the 1960s from his research and articles he wrote for > the local > newspaper. He must have been a character. > > While born/raised in CA, after doing lots of TX research, I feel very > connected to family history there. The above names are on my mom's > side, > but wouldn't you know it? Dad's family came through TX too and I am > now > digging for those roots. > > Nancy in CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Theresa Wentz" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [ERATH] Albritton > > > I am a little late reading this message but I have Whisenant > relatives > buried in the Barbee Cemetery. Since they have a prominent section > in that > cemetery, I have sure that they knew the Barbees. Do you know about > this > cemetery? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:29 PM > Subject: [ERATH] Albritton > > > First, this is definitely the most endearing, entertaining and > informative > of > all the mail lists (and there are many) in which I partake. > > Second, to those of you I've not had the pleasure of > meetingâ?"â?"greetings. > I > am Dana Stripling, granddaughter to Melvin Durward Barbee, of the > Barbee and > > Looney lines in Erath County. The lil' Jones-Barbee cabin which was > moved > into downtown Dublin belonged to my ancestors. > > Third, from a completely different side of the family, some of my > Louisiana/Georgia/North Carolina family ended up in Dublin and > Stephenville. > > specifically, my great, great, great Aunt, Harriet Louisa ALBRITTON, > and > Terrell BRYAN married in Bienville Parish, LA on 20 Feb 1855. They > were in > Erath County for a while after their marriage. Harriet and Terrell > lived in > > Stephenville, and their son, Redic Bryan, moved to Dublin around > 1898 or > 1899. I was wondering if anyone had any information on this line? > > Fourth, ironically, before we even knew of Harriet's existence (a > product of > > some GenForum diggins), my grandmother, Laura Irene ALBRITTON, met > and > married Durward in the very, very small town of Campti Louisiana. > Durward > brought her back to Dublin. Odd that both ALBRITTONS would end up > back in > Erath County. Odder still, I thought -- what was my grandfather > (some 20 > years old at the time) doing in Campti, of all places, selling > mules? He > must have had some connection to Louisiana. and, indeed, in the > Parish in > which Campti is placed and surrounding areas, i have found many a > BARBEE in > the cemeteries and records. but i have not yet made the connection. > but, > it > certainly seems in all this research, particularly back in the early > and mid > > 1800s -- family followed family. that there is generally some > familial > connection whenever a relative packed up and moved or visited > somewhere > else. > does anyone have any information that might link NW Louisiana to > Dublin and > > Stephenville? > > Many thanks for your indulgence in my rambling. Keep the wonderful > tales > coming. > > Best regards. > Dana Stripling > Researching: ALBRITTON, BARBEE, BERRY, BRETT, BURLESON, CARR, > DEBLIEUX, > FREEMAN, HALSELL, HART, HICKS, HOWARD, KINGSBURY, LOONEY, MCDANIEL, > MURPHY, > NEWMAN, PENICK, SANDEL, SIMMONS, STEPHENSON, STRIPLING, SULLIVAN, > VAN HOOSE, > > WHITE > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > > ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== > --- Author Retains Copyright --- > -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved > Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com > Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] > ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi, can anyone help with this Inquiry> Bro. Gillam was a minister in Erath County for 30 years or more, but I have no specific info which woulkd help. Charles Wy;ly --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Mary A. Old" <[email protected]> To: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:16:06 -0700 Subject: Re: PML Search Result matching "gillam" Charles, Caught your message through my personal mailing list at rootsweb. Do you have any more details on the brother Gillam mentioned below? I would very much like to publish the info. free of charge in my newsletter, Gillams Galore, and to check it against my data base of Gillam info gathered over 23 years. All I need is a snail mail (postal address) and any details you care to add. P.S. Sounds like you really know the area. Would really like to hear from you. My husband has Old and Jones relatives in the McClennan and Karnes Co. areas of TX. Mary At 10:25 PM 5/12/03 -0600, you wrote: >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ERATH] Fw: Mail Not Delivered > > >Hi, > >There was a Baptist pastor at Selden, probably bivocational back then, >who was named Brother Gillam. He performed the wedding for my >grandparents Henry and Ida Kathryn Moxley Wyly, appx. 1900, then for my >parents, Eddie and Emma Carey Wyly >about 1925 or 1926. He had a habit of having Sunday dinner with a family >when a wedding was planned, then carefully "lost" a silver dollar there. >That night at Church he would announce that he lost a Silver dollar with >certain date and marking and would perform a wedding for anyone who found >it. Naturally, Mom had "found " it. > >Br. Gilliam's grandson was Ben Jack Cage of Cage and Crow and Trammell >banking families. Ben Wyly, Jr. age 17 had deliverred 3000 head of Sheep >from Atlanta, Georgia to to San Angelo appx. 1890, age 17- Engilsh Sheep >from Atlanta, Ga. to San Angelo, for ranges toward Balmoreah.These sheep >were deliverred to Trammel and Crow of San Angelo and Stephenville. part >payment was in a Selden, Texas Ranch, a store on Stephenville Square, and >some Stephenville homes owned by Trammel or Crow families. My sister in >law Leota Narrell or Norrill of Van, Texas now and Born in Ropesville, >Texs said her grandad was also a Br. Gilliam or Gillum. About 5 years ago > >they held their Gillum Reunion in the Fort Worth Sportsman Club area at >Thurber. One year this family met at Lake Cisco or Ranger. > >You mentioned the Hills. Some Hills lived in Itasca- another family in >Walnut Springs, Texas and one had a farm in Chalk Mountain. He married a >Hale if I remember right. He used to combine dad's Vetch and Wheat mix >with a very old Regular Farmall and Allis Chalmers Combine. I attend >church with a John Hill , a Gideon, formerly from Louisiana. > >Also, there used to be a Mr. Boggus in 1940-50's who had a small farm or >large garden, usually wore Blue overalls, and drove a wagon with 2 Mules >hauling a Walking plow to plow gardens for Stephenville City dwellers. > >. > >. > >Take care, >Charles A. Wyly > >On Sun, 11 May 2003 20:10:31 -0700 David Gilliam <[email protected]> >writes: > > Hello again Mr. Wyly, > > > > It is of great interest to me--the stories of Mingus and Thurber. > > My great > > grandfather Ferd Hill had a store in Thurber during the boom years I > > would > > say possibly the 20's. He later lived in Mingus and had a dairy > > there and > > had 80 acres of pecans. I posted to the Rootsweb Palo Pinto site > > stories > > that my dad, Everett Jones told about his life in the Mingus area > > and things > > that he remembered happening. I believe the webmaster posted them > > under > > Ferdinand Hammond Hill. The night before my dad died, he began > > telling > > stories as he remembered them the more he talked the more I took > > notes. No > > one knew that his last remembrances would be about Mingus and some > > of the > > folks there. > > > > > > His Uncle Tom Boggus, married Nell Hill one of Ferd Hill's > > daughters. Uncle > > Tom was a bootlegger but also was elected to public office in either > > Mingus > > or Strawn. > > > > If any other of you folks in and around the Mingus, Thurber area > > know or > > have heard of any stories about the life there I would love to add > > more to > > my Mingus notes. > > > > Sincerely, > > Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Charles A. Wyly <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:25 AM > > Subject: [ERATH] Fw: Mail Not Delivered > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Apparently Tom's box is full again. Perhaps he will see it here. > > My E > > > mail company will store messages for a few days- short term. have > > that > > > problem too sometimes and have to file or delete like Crazy- > > nothing for > > > a few days then 15 to 20 in one day. > > > > > > In addition to Txerath news in letter below, Read all Historical > > Markers > > > in Stephenville listed on a Texas list. The private non charterred > > bank > > > of Cage and Crow on Northwest corner of Stephenville was 2 story. > > A > > > marker there stated that an italian Opera House was in the second > > floor > > > of the bamnk and many Italian and other European miners came to > > the > > > Stephenville Cage and Crow Opera house over the bank. Not sure, > > but I > > > think this was when Stephenville had open saloons instead of > > hiding > > > behind the skirts of private Clubs of today. Bet that has cut in > > on the > > > Mingus and Glen Rose trips . Also read the Erath County Historical > > > calendars published by Dan Young - Brenda Lamb assisted on some of > > them. > > > ( Historic calendars are old calendars- Historical calendars are > > recent > > > printing from collection of Historic events day by day). > > Stephenville > > > Century or 20 th Century club still publishes new calendars of > > historic > > > events., different each year. > > > > > > I never went to Mingus except passing through to other towns. A > > one time > > > the Horseshoe shaped bar there, run by some Italians at one time, > > was the > > > largest bar between Fort Worth and El Paso. , or so the Big Boys > > said. > > > Uncle Lewis Wyly and dad hauled Thurber Bricks from the Baptist > > Church, > > > 1930's. Building for foundations of Chicken houses and a milk > > shed on > > > same land Selden ( Hatchett related) Cemetery is on. The old > > Bandstand > > > from Thurber was moved to Hwy 6 road to Duffau , back to Mingus in > > the > > > last few years. . It was a "Round" or Hexagonal shape- and was the > > home > > > of 2 brothers who came to Bosque Valley League adult Baseball > > games at > > > Johnsville and Iredell in a Model T open top touring Car. They > > traded > > > even for a new Ford in Cleburne,as they said it was cooler for > > their > > > hounds when they attended Hunting dog shows. > > > > > > The Historical Calendars (with references)state that when > > karankawa > > > Volcano erupted in Indonesia, people in Stephenville, Mineral > > Wells and > > > Eastland heard a slow low rumble- Stage drivers said it was > > reported in > > > all towns they stopped in. The ash circulated the globe 3 & 1/2 > > times. > > > Sound Ridicilious? For the second time since 1989, the Mexican > > farmers in > > > Drouth stricken Central American countries are doing their annual > > field > > > burn offs to plow for the next crop in Jungle clearings and the > > fires are > > > out of hand. Yesterday in area from Austin to past Waco we did not > > see > > > the sun on a clear day, because of the smoke- sometimes there was > > a light > > > spot in the haxe, but no full sun. This blows across the Gulf into > > > Houston- corpus area or comes across the Rio Grande, depending on > > Jet > > > stream fluctuations.In 1988, it reached Lubbock. If your friends > > are > > > strange lately, maybe the smoke has a little Marijuana in it. > > Naw, it's > > > just the lack of normal sunlight. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Charles A. Wyly > > > > > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: 11 May 2003 03:27:43 -0000 > > > Subject: Mail Not Delivered > > > From: "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Tom, > > > read your Thurber History again. TP Coal and Oil had recruited > > short men > > > all over Europe for digging the coal from veins in some mines, > > that a 6 > > > foot man would have to lay on his side and kneel or crawl in. The > > Company > > > had separate Catholic Churches for the Irish in one group and > > Czechs > > > and Italians in the other, and they were assigned as groups to > > some > > > jobs.They had some differences in holidays and famil;y life. The > > word > > > Mingus is Italian. I have talked to elderly Czech men in West, > > Texas , > > > McLennan County who said they were born in either Mingus or > > Newcastle > > > Mine town near Graham. Oklahoma Coal Miners in Yukon, Okla, and in > > > another town east of OKC towards Tahlequah also had similar > > history of > > > European Coal miners- but only 2 restaurants in Okla, still make > > good > > > Kolaches and Koblisneik and Strudle . > > > > > > Some in the edge of Eastland and Erath County who now own land > > had > > > Italian roots. They have posted to this site a few years ago. > > Should be > > > in Archives of Txerath or Southern Trails. Wendell Montgomery of > > West > > > Pharmacy and Bakery died last month. he was Catholic and had some > > Erath > > > County connections- and knew the history of the Dr. Wylie of > > Bosque > > > County, as Wendell 's dad had bought Dr. Wylie's home and clinic- > > 2 story > > > frame, on hill behind West Dairy Queen.Wendell's 35 women and > > Co-op > > > school kids supplied Czech food for Ennis Polka Festival every > > year. > > > > > > When I was in the West Kiwanis Club and teaching there, Vince > > Incardona , > > > deputy, and later County Commisioner was also a member. He was > > born in > > > Marlin. One of the West Lumber Tuckers was kidding him just before > > > Westfest as to why he spoke Czech and Vince laughed and said > > speaking > > > Czech was desireable for an Italian in Falls County. One black > > man I > > > taught with said he had bought land from a white farmer who > > carried his > > > own note and he preferred to sell to him than one of the Italians > > who > > > wanted it. Back then West and Cameron Churches of Unity of the > > Brethern > > > ( Moravian) had Czech language preaching by Rev. Bezdek of West.On > > other > > > Sundays all services were in English (1960's) They were similar to > > Modern > > > Menninites or conservative Baptists.One of these churches south > > of Texas > > > A&M on Hwy 6 is unusually beauriful . > > > > > > 2 blocks towards the railroad in West is the Aderholdt Funeral > > Home- and > > > was run by Al Payne for many years- a kin. Dr. Aderholdt had > > practiced > > > medicine in Erath County before moving to West. Could he have been > > Czech > > > or Italian?Sounds more Swiss or Moravian. His granddaughter in > > 1998 was > > > Chief administrator of Ridgecrest Retirement Village on south side > > of > > > Lake Waco- on Hwy 6 in Woodway, near Bosque Blvd > > > > > > I suppose you know about the Mexican group in Falls county who > > were > > > Charcoal burners with a big pit- and sold the charcoal to some > > > Wholesaler. Also, the village around the Falls County gravel > > works. I > > > would have had to recruit Adult Ed students from there had I > > taken the > > > job, after retirement, with headquarters in old Elm Mott School > > (near > > > Wao) for > > > several countiues. Sounded like too much time for the pay. > > > > > > For a starter,check Google for the San Francisco Library daily > > newspapers > > > of japanese and Italians who were relocated from the West Coast > > when WW2 > > > started. New York Library or Smithsonian should have this on line > > for > > > East Coast. > > > Same happened on the East Coast- notsure about Gulf of Mexico. > > Some went > > > to kansas on a 2 week notice with Military Escort guards. . My > > present > > > neighbor - Hoshizaki, wasfirst generation American born and left > > San > > > Francisco area for Louisville, Ky resetlement area- old Barracks > > and > > > cottages. he attended Baptist > > > Seminary in Louisbille and becamea Japanese Missionary to Japan. > > His son > > > is now involved in English- Japqnese Computer programs and spends > > muv=ch > > > of his time there. He is a Baylor Grad. > > > > > > Those in present Mexia State School buildings in WW2, and those > > in > > > Cleburne were German Prisoners of War, not relocated civilians. In > > > Cleburne they lived under the North Football bleachers on U.S. > > 67,built > > > in 1930's by WPA, and openings were coverred with tarps. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Charles A. 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--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 22:15:12 EDT Subject: [Sc-Ir] Dr. JB Cowan and his 95 year old Grandson Hello folks, Just when you think there is nothing more to look for in a particular area of genealogy you get an e-mail.  This one came from cousin Dan and he told me he had a manuscript sent to him by a lady in Washington concerning a cadet James G. Cowan who was a student at the University of Alabama during the last days of the Confederacy.  I immediately contacted the woman and she sent me a copy of this wonderful manuscript which has never been published. It begins as follows: To my loyal, faithful, devoted and beloved wife, who for forty five years, on each recurring anniversary, has patiently endured the affliction of having some of the incidents here related repeated.  This narrative is affectionately dedicated.  Jas. G.(Gillespie) Cowan This is a most remarkable story and includes the likes of Dr. James B. Cowan, the Reverend Samuel Montgomery Cowan and his wife and the Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest.  It reads like one of Dr. Cowan's letters and it is of historical significance.  I was asked not to distribute the narrative as it was intended for family and I will respect that wish.  But it gets better. Dan also told me something else which when I first heard it I thought he was mistaken or pulling my leg.  He said he was in contact with a fellow in Nashville who works at the Tennessee State archives by the name of Jim Havron and that this fellow was a descendant of Dr. JB Cowan, Chief Surgeon to General Forrest.  I was much eleated at the prospect of finding one of Dr. Cowan's relatives, especially considering the fact he is an archiveist and just might know really good stuff on the family.  I called him on the phone and we had a nice talk and it looks like a trip to Tennessee is about ready to happen.  Some of you may remember my posts regarding Dr. Cowan's letters of 1895 to a distant relative discussing the family genealogy and saying Samuel Cowan's father came from Londonderry.  You may also remember the research trip John Giacoletti and I made to PRONI and the resulting discovery of a letter written by Robert Cowan in 1733 saying the family removed to Londonderry in the 1620's and that they originally were from Stirling, almost a word for word confirmation of Dr.Cowan's writings 170+ years later.  Well guess what?  Dr Cowan's grandson is STILL living!!  He is 95 years old and lives near Tullahoma.  Jim Havron is this gentlemans grandson!  Jim says the old man has many letters and even the Reverend Samuel M. Cowan's Bible and who knows what else in his old lock box.  I once made the statement that given the choice of being lucky or smart in genealogy always take luck.  I hereby stick by that statement. Good fortune continues and I wait eagerly for the time when I can visit my new cousin in Nashville, Mr. Jim Havron, and exchange information with him and swap stories about Ireland, Scotland, the War and and the entire cast of characters that make up who we are.  I want to sit on the front porch on a warm summer evening and toast the best Chief Surgeon who ever lived, Dr. James Benjamin Cowan, a man who worked for the best cavalry officer in the history of warfare, Lt. General Nathan Bedford Forrest. I want to live, if just for a moment, like they lived.  Regards, Robert Cowan "I rode with Forrest" "I rowed with Knox"

Hi: Couldn't help but respond to your posting. I'm a descendant of Howards/Rogers/Womacks who were in Erath Co. early on and in Nacogdoches, Smith, and McLennan Counties even before that before Erath Co. was formed. Other family connections with our line are Barbees, Whites, Stephens, Straceners, and more. I have found that lots of our extended family are buried in the Barbee Cemetery. In particular, the children of my gr. gr. grandfather, John H. Howard, and wife Sarah G. Burleson, who were in early Erath Co. Children were Emily Ann Howard was the wife of Rufus Bean White, Mary Caroline Howard was the wife of Wm. F. Stephen, Nancy Elizabeth Howard was the wife of James Carroll Rogers, Harriett Matilda Howard was the wife of Wm. Henry Stracener, and their brother was Leander Guy Howard who lived and died in Erath Co., TX. He was a Texas Ranger during his time there. Nancy Elizabeth Howard/James Carroll Rogers (my gr. grandparents) were married in Stephenville as were my grandparents, Thomas Pitts Rogers and Florence Virginia Womack. I even inherited some communications with NaHomer Stephen from the 1960s from his research and articles he wrote for the local newspaper. He must have been a character. While born/raised in CA, after doing lots of TX research, I feel very connected to family history there. The above names are on my mom's side, but wouldn't you know it? Dad's family came through TX too and I am now digging for those roots. Nancy in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Wentz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [ERATH] Albritton I am a little late reading this message but I have Whisenant relatives buried in the Barbee Cemetery. Since they have a prominent section in that cemetery, I have sure that they knew the Barbees. Do you know about this cemetery? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: [ERATH] Albritton First, this is definitely the most endearing, entertaining and informative of all the mail lists (and there are many) in which I partake. Second, to those of you I've not had the pleasure of meetingâ?"â?"greetings. I am Dana Stripling, granddaughter to Melvin Durward Barbee, of the Barbee and Looney lines in Erath County. The lil' Jones-Barbee cabin which was moved into downtown Dublin belonged to my ancestors. Third, from a completely different side of the family, some of my Louisiana/Georgia/North Carolina family ended up in Dublin and Stephenville. specifically, my great, great, great Aunt, Harriet Louisa ALBRITTON, and Terrell BRYAN married in Bienville Parish, LA on 20 Feb 1855. They were in Erath County for a while after their marriage. Harriet and Terrell lived in Stephenville, and their son, Redic Bryan, moved to Dublin around 1898 or 1899. I was wondering if anyone had any information on this line? Fourth, ironically, before we even knew of Harriet's existence (a product of some GenForum diggins), my grandmother, Laura Irene ALBRITTON, met and married Durward in the very, very small town of Campti Louisiana. Durward brought her back to Dublin. Odd that both ALBRITTONS would end up back in Erath County. Odder still, I thought -- what was my grandfather (some 20 years old at the time) doing in Campti, of all places, selling mules? He must have had some connection to Louisiana. and, indeed, in the Parish in which Campti is placed and surrounding areas, i have found many a BARBEE in the cemeteries and records. but i have not yet made the connection. but, it certainly seems in all this research, particularly back in the early and mid 1800s -- family followed family. that there is generally some familial connection whenever a relative packed up and moved or visited somewhere else. does anyone have any information that might link NW Louisiana to Dublin and Stephenville? Many thanks for your indulgence in my rambling. Keep the wonderful tales coming. Best regards. Dana Stripling Researching: ALBRITTON, BARBEE, BERRY, BRETT, BURLESON, CARR, DEBLIEUX, FREEMAN, HALSELL, HART, HICKS, HOWARD, KINGSBURY, LOONEY, MCDANIEL, MURPHY, NEWMAN, PENICK, SANDEL, SIMMONS, STEPHENSON, STRIPLING, SULLIVAN, VAN HOOSE, WHITE ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2002 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ==== TXERATH Mailing List ==== --- Author Retains Copyright --- -- Copyright 2003 Author -- All Rights Reserved Post to List: [email protected] http://www.selfroots.com Unsubscribe request To: [email protected] ARCHIVES: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl