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    1. Re: [TXELLIS] "Auburn"
    2. bennie
    3. Glenn & Susie Toal wrote: > > Bennie > > You also might try the Sims Library. They have newspaper Obits. > at least they have many of them, but not all. > > I know Auburn Cem. has an association, but I do not know who is in charge. They might have something in their old records. > > By 1920's most of the time, a funeral home was used, it may have been a hardware store, as man of them doubled as a funeral home in some of the smaller towns. > > Susie ================= Susie Thanks for replying.I have not gone to the Sims Library; however, I did contact the Ellis County Clerk, and the BOZE Funeral Home and state offices without any luck. Thanks again.Bennie

    02/07/2000 10:26:43
    1. [TXELLIS] "Auburn"
    2. Glenn & Susie Toal
    3. Bennie You also might try the Sims Library. They have newspaper Obits. at least they have many of them, but not all. I know Auburn Cem. has an association, but I do not know who is in charge. They might have something in their old records. By 1920's most of the time, a funeral home was used, it may have been a hardware store, as man of them doubled as a funeral home in some of the smaller towns. Susie

    02/06/2000 08:24:50
    1. [TXELLIS] "AUBURN"
    2. Glenn & Susie Toal
    3. Bennie In Auburn Cemetery there are: Kuykendall, Rev. Tilmon S. 1854-1936 Kuykendall, S.B. 1757-1927 Kuykendall, Susan 1865 - ?? Kuykendall, Elmer 1887 - 1968 Pvt Co. E. WW I Kuykendall, Tilmon M. 1892 - 1958 Tex Wagoner WW I You might try the County Clerks Office in Waxahachie, Tx. They might have something on your S.B. Kuykendall. Susie

    02/06/2000 08:19:58
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] Boyd obit- seeking family
    2. Was going through some of my old emails, and found yours. I am not sure if I have answered you, or not. If not, please accept my apologies....... The Auburn Cemetery is right on the Ellis/Navarro County line area.......You might check for your people in Navarro, Hill, and Johnson Counties.........also......Robertson County... Marie laura Burton wrote: > This is a copy of an obit for Mary Josephine Ingle Boyd. She and her husband lived in the area for many years and are buried in the Auburn Cemetery. I am hoping some family member out there will recognize one or more of the names and will email me please...these names cover several Texas counties. > Thank you, > Laura Burton > > Funeral Held for Pioneer > special to the Star - Telegram, > Grandview, Feb 25,1938-- Funeral services were conducted at Auburn Methodist Church seven miles east of Grandview Thursday for Mrs. M J Boyd, 96, who died at the home of a daughter in Fort Davis Wednesday. > > Mrs. Boyd , the mother of 13 children, wa born in Arkansas. She moved to Texas with her family in 1846 to settle in Anderson County. She married James Gordon D. Boyd at Jacksonville and the couple moved with their children to Erath County in 1861. > > Mr. Boyd joined the Confederate Army and served four years. > > Immediately after the war the family moved to the Grandview country and most of the children were born there. The children were educated at nearby Trinity University. > > Mr. Boyd purchased a ranch in Mexico and the family lived there until the Mexican revolution , in 1912. The ranch, called "Cerretas." still is owned by the estate. > > Since Mr. Boyd died, a few years ago, Mrs. Boyd spent most of her time with her son, G D Boyd , at Grandview. She had been at the home of her daughter the last two years. > > Survivors include three other sons, JJ Boyd, Hillsboro, NM , A J Boyd, Pecos, and Leroy Boyd, Anson, two daughters, Mrs. RL Irving, Fort Davis, and Mrs. Lillie Hoghburg, San Diego, Cal. and a brother J B Ingle , Grandview. > > Mrs. Boyd has a cousin , Capt. A J ( Jack) Ingle, Grandview, who will be 90 next July. At Jacksonville her cousin , Mrs. Melvina Ingle Chessire, is 104 years old. > > ==== TXELLIS Mailing List ==== > Problems/Questions/Comments > Email: agsa@fwst.com > Listowner: Rob Yoder

    02/06/2000 07:25:38
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] AUBURN CEMETERY
    2. bennie
    3. Glenn & Susie Toal wrote: > > The Auburn Cemetery is located on FM 66, just west of Maypearl. Follow FM 66 to the fork in the road, right on FM 917 toward Grandview; 4 miles. > > Turn right on Auburn Road; then right at Cemetery sign. This cemetery is in use and is maintained. There is a historical marker stating the history of this cemetery. The oldest cemetery burial date recorded is 1878. > > This cemetery is listed in Ellis Co. Genealogical Society Volume I. > > This cemetery has been updated and Volume I will be reprinted w/updates later this year. > > Hope these directions are of some help. Almost all of the cemeteries in Ellis County have been located. > > Susie Toal ========================= Susie, Can you tell me the name of the person to contact about any documentation on people who are buried in the Auburn Cemetary. I am trying to find the death certificate of my grandfather, Sanford B. kuykendall. He died in July, 1927 according to his headstone. He married Susan Mildred Campbell. Her headstone does not have the date of her death. She died while living in Rockdale, Texas on July 4, 1939. I am interested in finding out anything I can about his death. I have written the Ellis County Clerk, The Texas Health Department, Boze Cemetary. Also the Texas Death Index. No one seems to have anything about him in Ellis County. There is an S.B. Kuykendall listed in Cooke County, Texas; however, the date of death is January, 1937, ten years later than shown on his headstone. I desperately need the name of his father and mother. There seems to be a question about their names. I would love to also find an obit on him. Surely some funeral home has something on him. I know a lot of funerals were held in the homes back then. If he happened to really be the one from Cooke County, and Died in January, 1937; how did his body get back to Auburn? There are so many questions I know nothing about. I cannot remembe my mother, Flemie Ophelia Kuykendall, ever discussing her grandparents names. His family bible was filled out by a daughter, Sallie E. Kuykendall Brigman, but I do not know when. It states his death as July 8, 1927 also. Thank you, Bennie Allred

    02/06/2000 07:09:07
    1. [TXELLIS] "AUBURN"
    2. Glenn & Susie Toal
    3. Re: Boyd Names in Auburn Cemetery Boyd, R. J. 1869-1921 BOYD, Mary J. 1842 - 1938 (O.E.S.) BOYD, J. G. 1835-1917 (Mason) BOYD, Jacob H. 1864-1896 BOYD, Peter son of J.G.&M.J. 1878 - 1881 BOYD, Cordie son of J.G. & M.J. 1880-1881 BOYD, Royale 1885-1886 Susie

    02/06/2000 06:19:54
    1. [TXELLIS] AUBURN CEMETERY
    2. Glenn & Susie Toal
    3. The Auburn Cemetery is located on FM 66, just west of Maypearl. Follow FM 66 to the fork in the road, right on FM 917 toward Grandview; 4 miles. Turn right on Auburn Road; then right at Cemetery sign. This cemetery is in use and is maintained. There is a historical marker stating the history of this cemetery. The oldest cemetery burial date recorded is 1878. This cemetery is listed in Ellis Co. Genealogical Society Volume I. This cemetery has been updated and Volume I will be reprinted w/updates later this year. Hope these directions are of some help. Almost all of the cemeteries in Ellis County have been located. Susie Toal

    02/06/2000 06:13:31
    1. [TXELLIS] Thank you
    2. laura Burton
    3. Many thanks for the information Sheryl.....:) Laura

    01/31/2000 09:01:33
    1. [TXELLIS] Civil War pensions
    2. laura Burton
    3. Does anyone know the website for the Texas registry of civil war pensions? Thanks, Laura

    01/31/2000 08:36:08
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] Civil War pensions
    2. The Texas Confederate Pension Index is great---the easiest to access that I've found. Clyde Deavers Lady Lake, FL

    01/31/2000 05:18:20
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] Civil War pensions
    2. Laura, the Texas Civil War Pension Files Index is located at: http://link.tsl.state.tx.us/c/compt/index.html Hope this helps. Sheryl McNeely Shaw

    01/31/2000 03:51:48
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] FLAGS of CSA
    2. Kim Ross
    3. I ran into the same problem. It turns out, at some point, when a town becomes large enough to be a city, the health department is created. From that point, death and births are recorded there, not at the county. My grandmother died in 1928 in Wichita Falls. The state does not have a record for her, Wichita Co., does not. Finally someone at the courthouse suggested the city. Hers was one of the first deaths recorded for Wichita County. Now, if we could just find her grave in the Electra Cemetery ... The funeral home that handled arrangements went out of business and I heard some years back that those records were in a storage building out behind another funeral home. I've never been able to come up with enough energy to attempt it during the summer. The cemetery in Electra seems to be run by the local funeral home. I was able to see the sales slips for plots back to about the time grandmother died, but the cemetery predates the funeral home's management. Grandmother can't be found this way; we looked by maiden name, first husband's name, married name. Maybe there is a probate record-that's just about as good. Kim Ross Librarian kross@dcccd.edu >>> "Glenn & Susie Toal" <glensuzy@airmail.net> 01/30/00 03:48PM >>> Does anyone have any ideas to offer as to where one could find a death certificate when there is not one with the state of Texas nor the county. And the funeral home, or in this case, the Hardware store, no longer exists and has not for 30 or 40 years. Thank you. Suzy

    01/31/2000 01:48:46
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] CSA plaques and memorials]
    2. Kim Ross
    3. There are two books out that deal with this thread: 1) Black Confederates and Afro Yankees in CW Virginia; 2) Black Southerners in gray: essays on Afro-Americans in Confederate Armies. There are essays and pictures about the members of the Confederate Veterans organization. Kim Ross Librarian kross@dcccd.edu >>> "Mona Herrin" <mherrin@hotmail.com> 01/30/00 11:20AM >>> "Southern Cross" has become a synonym for the Confederate Battle Flag in some areas for some reasons recently. I have seen it several times lately, but don't know where the term originated. I still think that the Confederate flag that flew over the Capitol of the South is more appropriate. I also believe that if we are asked to remove the symbols of our past, that turnabout is fair play-the Civil Right monuments and such. We need to search our hearts as to our motives in this, tho. Do we truly mean to offend no one? Would the Sons of Confederate Veterans permit a black person to become a member if he could prove that his ancestor fought for the South? I know of a few who could prove such was the case. I believe in truth and I believe that we have to search our hearts for the truth. I know that my ancestors fought to protect their home and family and that they fought to protect States Rights-not slavery. I too am a verteran and I feel strongly about the Stars and Stripes-I served in the USAF in the70s as a medic and I was raised in the south. I lived in Ill. for several years. I had the opportunity to stay home and watch some TV and I was appalled that there were people who really believed that we still had plantations and slaves. I was also appalled that my daughter was being taught that the War Between the States was about Slavery! I think that we need to see that history is taught correctly and that the issues are discussed freely and truthfully. I was even more appalled that some people believed that I was uneducated and ignorant because I was raised in the South! I don't want to be paintd with the same brush that the Neo-Nazis, the militia groups, and the KKK are. I don't want to give them the opportunity to use this for their gain! The bombing here in Birmingham of an abortion clinic set the Right to Life group back to square one, we can't let our tempers govern us in this and set the South back to square one. And George Wallace lied when he said that he did not raise the Battle Flag over the capitol in defiance. I was there and I also was at Maxwell AFB, Montgomery, Al. when Trammell was a Federal prisoner there. We discussed this as well as other issues. This was back in 1973. Are we being defiant in our wish to keep that flag flying? We can be proud of our history and still be considerate of others. Mona >From: lcapehar@swbell.net >Reply-To: lcapehar@swbell.net >To: TXELLIS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TXELLIS] [Fwd: [WESTEX-ROOTS-L] CSA plaques and memorials] >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:55:34 -0800 > >The Southern Cross was the ONLY medal given out by the Confederacy. > >Tom Mote wrote: > > > Mona, > > > > Please forgive my ignorance for I am not really a Civil War buff. What > > is the "Southern Cross?" The CSA flag that I see and recognize is the > > one that I have always called the "Stars and Bars," i.e., the flag with > > a solid field upon which is superimposed an "X" containing one star for > > each of the Confederate states. This is the one which is joined by five > > others at "Six Flags Over Texas." Incidentally, should that theme park > > also do away with the flags of [1] Spain, because of its horrible >treatment > > of the [then] Indian population of New Spain, [2] France, whose >Louisiana > > and Texas plantation owners owned slaves and [3] Mexico, whose Santa > > Anna murdered the defenders of the Alamo? > > > > I think not. > > Tom > > > > Mona Herrin wrote: > > > > > > > > > My ancestors fought for the Confederacy too. But I know for a fact >that > > > they did not own slaves, did not believe in slavery, nor did they >believe in > > > secession, but they fought anyway, and died as a result of protecting >their > > > homes. The War divided families and friends. Why do we have to have >ot fly > > > the "Southern Cross"? <SKIP> > I > > > am sorry > > > if I offend those who want to hold on to the "Southern Cross", but I >WILL > > > NOT be alligned with the Nazi, the KKK, nor any of their off shoots. >If we > > > believe that Human Life is sacred, we cannot. Mona > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    01/31/2000 01:32:57
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] Beaty-Clemons-Zollicoffer-Hines
    2. Vickie Taylor
    3. There are Zollicoffers buried in the Buchner Memorial Cemetery in Hughes Co., OK but I don't recall the names. You will find it linked and online from the tag line below. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com Cemeteries of Oklahoma http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/cemetery/cemetery.htm

    01/31/2000 12:50:22
    1. [TXELLIS] Sylvester Brown Stephenson
    2. Tommy Stephenson
    3. ______________190 TO THE DAUGHTERS OF the CONFEDERACY: The undersigned residing at Waxahachie,TX. who is an EX-Confederate Soldier and a member of Camp 108 U.C. D.'s is hereby,at your request,presents this Certificate of Eligibility for a Conferate Cross of Honor. He entered the service of the Confederate States on the___ day of Nov. 1861,as a private in company 2 of the Ward's Artillery Regiment of _______ Volunteers,_________C.S.A. and was at that time a resident of Madison County,Ala. He was honorably discharged from said service by termination of the war at the time of surrender was with the 28th Tenn.Cav.,12th day of May 1865,at which time he held the rank of _________. Respectfully, S.B. Stephenson We endorse that above certificate J.B. Jackson T.H. Peters Members Camp No. 108 United Confederate Veterans Approved by order of O.A.Finley Commander Camp No. 108 United Confederate Veterans H.M. Rhodus, Adjutant Funeral Notice Died,in Waxahachie,this morning at 3:30 o'clock S.B. Stephenson Funeral Services will be held at the residence of his daughter,Mrs. W.H. Smith,on Lake Park Ave.,tomorrow morning at 10:00 o'clock. Friends and acquaintances are requested to attend. Interment in City Cemetery. Waxahachie,Tuesday,April 7, 1908. Members of Winnie Davis Camp NO. 108 are urgently requested to meet at city Hall Wednesday morning at 9'o'clock to attend the funeral of our deceased brother. W.R. Norman,Commander W.L. P. Leigh,Adjustant Sylvester Brown Stephenson married Mary Holt in Limestone County,Al.on 24 th June 1857. They had Allen W. Stephenson and Rosa Stephenson Smith. 1850 Giles County,TN. Samuel Stephenson 53 b. S.C. Mary, 53 b. S.C. Mary 18 b. Al. John 16 b. Al. Sylvester 13 b. Al. George Alexander 26 b. Al. Tombstone,if there was one,destroyed or illegible. I would appreciate a look-up on Mary Holt Stephenson who might be buried in Waxahachie. We spell the surname Stephenson,but it can be spelled "Stevenson"or "Steverson".

    01/30/2000 10:24:07
    1. [TXELLIS] Ellis Newspaper
    2. Joyce Austin
    3. I also have P. Y. Slocum (listed in book as P. T. Slocum) that died in Ray, Ellis Co., Texas on 26 Jan 1908. Could someone be able to look for his obit and his wife Dorinda died 1 Feb 1910 also in Ray. I would be glad to pay for any time and copies. Joyce -- Joyce DAY AUSTIN <jaau@airmail.net> Researching VA, GA, TN, TX: DAY, COLE, FORMBY, MOORE, DAVIS TX: SLOCUM, HENDRIX, BRITTON VA, TN, TX: AUSTIN, WOOD, RUSSELL RED RIVER CO, TEXAS: HALL, MARTIN Home page: http://web2.airmail.net/jaau/index.htm

    01/30/2000 09:22:46
    1. [TXELLIS] Deaths not listed
    2. Glenn & Susie Toal
    3. Thanks to all. I have new places to check out. Hopefully, I will find something. Thanks again. Suzy

    01/30/2000 09:06:15
    1. RE: [TXELLIS] "Deaths not listed in State"
    2. VG
    3. Suzy, You might want to check for an obituary that might have been put in the newspaper. Check the Sims Library newspapers on microfilm around this time. Vickie -----Original Message----- From: Glenn & Susie Toal [mailto:glensuzy@airmail.net] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:24 PM To: TXELLIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TXELLIS] "Deaths not listed in State" The problem I have is: The death occurred in 1924, but death was not registered with state. Have checked everywhere I can think of at Sims Library, and the county clerks office at Wax. Nothing... Orr Hardware in Ferris, Texas handled the funeral and person is buried in Crisp. But, would like to find a death cert. They usually contain additional information. Somewhere, there is perhaps someone who knows something about the Orr Hardware/Funeral Home records. Maybe,,,,, Thanks Suzy

    01/30/2000 08:08:38
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] "Deaths not listed in State"
    2. Janice Hancock
    3. Hi Suzy Try, the vital records in Austin, TX for a 'REGISTER OF DEATHS' this is how I found my husband's maternal g/m. Good luck. By the way SKS did a look up for me and I obtained it from the county seat the g/m died in. this person died in 1925, so I don't know if it would mean they weren't registering them in 1924. the information contained in it was: name of parents, place of death, cause of death, place of burial and undertakers, which by the way listed her husband as one of them, because back then there were few funeral homes and the body was "laid in state" at their home. Hope this helps you to find yours. Good luck Janice/Corsicana ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn & Susie Toal <glensuzy@airmail.net> To: <TXELLIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:23 PM Subject: [TXELLIS] "Deaths not listed in State" The problem I have is: The death occurred in 1924, but death was not registered with state. Have checked everywhere I can think of at Sims Library, and the county clerks office at Wax. Nothing... Orr Hardware in Ferris, Texas handled the funeral and person is buried in Crisp. But, would like to find a death cert. They usually contain additional information. Somewhere, there is perhaps someone who knows something about the Orr Hardware/Funeral Home records. Maybe,,,,, Thanks Suzy

    01/30/2000 07:27:51
    1. Re: [TXELLIS] FLAGS of CSA
    2. At the Sims Library, Waxahachie, I found a microfische of the Texas Deaths, 1903-1940. It lists by Surname, given name, County where death was recorded, and Death Certificate number. As for deaths before 1903, I haven't a clue, unless that county's website might have more information. Or you might check with that county's geneological group. Marie Capehart Glenn & Susie Toal wrote: > I think this is a website for geneology; this problem of the flag will be worked out someplace else. BUT, the flag, "good bad or indifferent" is a part of every southerners heritage and should remain so. We all have our own heritage and they are all important. The flag represents our history and our heritage and DOES NOT represent many of the things we all argue over. > > Now, back to roots and geneology. > > Does anyone have any ideas to offer as to where one could find a death certificate when there is not one with the state of Texas nor the county. And the funeral home, or in this case, the Hardware store, no longer exists and has not for 30 or 40 years. > Thank you. > > Suzy

    01/30/2000 04:52:40