This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1562.1.2.2 Message Board Post: Many Texas counties have vital records in the original handwritten format that date back to the 1860's and 1870's. Also, in many cases, you can find an old probate record that will mention the death even if you cannot locate the death record. In one county recently, I was going through the deed index that dated back to the 1870's when I came across a reference to an affidavit of heirship. When I went to the original document, it mentioned the deceased and his date of death (even though it took place almost 20 years before). His heirs were trying to sell his land and needed the proof of heirship. So, even if there is not an official record of death, county records often hold other clues to the information you need.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KEEN, EDWARDS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1562.2 Message Board Post: There are obits for Mrs. W. D. Keen (Mary Elizabeth) and W. D. Keen in the Denton Record-Chronicle. His is dated 27 June 1937 and hers 19 July 1934. There is no will for W. D. Keen or Mary Elizabeth. However, W. D. Keen witnessed the will of Mary Susan Edwards on 1 Dec 1930.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1562.1.2.1 Message Board Post: The state started collecting death records in 1903, and even then it took years before it was commonly done. I don't know of any other sources--some of the counties may have records, but they didn't generally keep track of much before that time frame.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Autry, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1562.1.2 Message Board Post: do you know if there are any listings of deaths prior to 1903 or any way to look them up. It is not related to Keen but just in general . i have been looking for death information for Margaret Ann Mattix Hinds Autry died in 1861 up in denton/little elm area. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Autry, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1561.1.1 Message Board Post: While you are at it is there any way possible you can see if a site exists for Margaret Ann Autry died in 1861. I would sure appreciate it and i know it is a long shot but she died from measles and lived in the Little Elm area. Thanks, Karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Denton County, Autry, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1603.2 Message Board Post: I just talked to them and with shipping and handling it is $15.00 and they still have some available. You have to mail a check they do not take credit cards.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hkB.2ACI/1623.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have checked the three surrounding cemeteries of Old Alton, Shiloh, and Old Hall and did not find a grave for Margaret Autry. My personal opinion is that if she lived in the Chinn Chapel Community when she died she is interred in the Chinn Chapel Cemetery in an unmarked grave. It was not easy in the mid 1800's to provide a tombstone for an individual. As a matter of fact there are many sandstone rocks marking the graves of inidviduals interred in Chinn's Chapel with not marking on them; therefore, it is possible that one of them could be the person for whom you are searching. I wish I could be of more help than this but sometimes we just can not locate graves which were dug and used in the 1800's. Edd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Autry, Oterey,Otery Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1623.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Her maiden name was Mattix, then she married Hinds, and then John C. Autry, he was a preacher, So she was Margaret Ann Mattix Hinds Autry. I have even tried to post with her maiden and other married names. She had a son Zachary Taylor Autry of whom i am descended from but when she died of the measles he left and moved to San Antonio at the age of 12 since John remarried. I have tracked most of Zacharys immediate family and even have a picture of John C. Autrys grave but his mother Margaret is missing. We were hoping this would pan out because a granddaughter of 82 years old remembered going by a Green School and to the church and we were hoping the Chinn might be pronouned Cheen and as having been only 3 that she might have misunderstood. Thanks so much for helping.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hkB.2ACI/1623.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have checked the maiden names of individuals interred in Chinn's Chapel Cemetery and found the following: Autrey, Trionia 2-15-1849 - born in TN; died 2-8-1872; married William H. Pinckley 6-7-1840 - Born in TN; died 1-28-1913; interred in Chinn's Chapel Cemetery. Trionia was the daugher of John A. Autrey 1825 - born on Tennessee; date of death and place of burial is unknown; and Winnie (Watson) Autrey born 1825 born in Tennessee; date of death and place of burial is unknown. I don't know if this is of any value or not; perhaps it is. Edd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Autry,Oterey,Otery Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1623.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you know if the church has any records? I tried calling them this morning but only an answering machine answered. She may have been buried as Otery,or Oterey, as when she married she showed one of those versions, and later on it was Autry. She died in 1861 sometime between Mar and Dec. and since they were shown on census in 1860 as being members of that church and we know she was buried in a church cemetery that maybe she is there. He then moved on and remarried and left the area. Thanks so much for responding even though i was so hoping she was there.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hkB.2ACI/1623.1 Message Board Post: I have done a census of the Chinn's Chapel Cemetery and my records do not show a grave for Margaret Ann Autry. This is not to say that a grave exists in the cemetery; however, no grave has been found which has a tombstone showing the person interred is Margaret Ann Autry. Edd Painter

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Autry,Outrey, Otrery, any variation of Autry Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1623 Message Board Post: Is there anyone out there who could check and see if the Chinn's Chapel Cemetery United Methodist Church in Lewisville, Tx has an old grave from 1861 there for Margaret Autry, Her full name was Margaret Ann Mattix Hinds Autry. I believe she and her husband John C were on the 1860 census belonging to the Chinn's Chapel . This is a long shot everyone has been searching for her grave in Cook County but thought i would ask if anyone could check for me. Thanks,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1622.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dallas Morning News March 05, 1958

Please sto e-mail to bobbyearl@texasonline.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1622.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your time. I had all of the census information, but appreciate you posting it. I also found that someone had posted the marriage record elsewhere and that his actual name was Friedrich August J. Wolters instead. Her name was Minnie Greer according to the other source and they married 11 Nov 1911 in Denton, TX

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hkB.2ACI/1622.1 Message Board Post: Fred Wolters born appx 1861 in Germany was married to a Theresa/Therese in the 1910 and 1920 census. She was born appx 1872 in Germany. He came to US in appx 1887 and she in 1884. They married appx 1889. The 1920 record indicates they were naturalized in 1907. They lived in the 3rd Pct. Son Fred J, listed as F J in the 1920 record, born abt 1892 in TX was in the household of his father in the 1910 record and married to Minnie by the 1920 record. Minnie born 1893 in TX; record for 1920 says her parents were from GA and the 1930 record they were from Texas. Fred J Wolters indicates in the 1930 record he was 21 when he married Minnie. MINNIE WOLTERS 23 Jan 1893 - 19 Nov 1975 75067 Lewisville, Denton, TX Her death certificate should have her parents names on it if you do not find a marriage record or a response for a lookup. The marriage records for Denton county are not online.

Laurie, Your post got my attention because my Mary Elizabeth Franklin born 1854 was supposed to have a connection a Hare, etc. family. Since I haven't found a Franklin family in Denton Co. for this time period, maybe as a step-daughter? She married Isaac McCormick about 1871 and their son Warren E. was born in 1872 in Denton. Her next child was Virginia Frances (my great-grandmother) born March 1874. Mary Elizabeth died January 1875 and is buried by Warren at the Old City (Oak Wood) Cemetery In Denton. Do you know of any Franklins intermarrying in your Hare/Hair family? This has been a dead-end for me for so many years! Lynda Langston Fredendall Atascadero, CA

Hi, Cyrille. I forgot your family is African-American. I think I've seen messages from you before about your research. The surnames I mentioned are collateral families to my LANE and LUSTER lines in Collin and Denton Counties. And they're not African-American. Sorry we can't help each other. Good luck with your research. Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: Cyrille To: Laurie Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [TXDENTON] HAIR, HAIRE, HARE's of Denton County Good morning, Laurie: Areyour family (research) African-American? Cyrille Laurie <lanenelson1@msn.com> wrote: I have an Ellen MOON b. 1857 in Texas, father William MOON b. 1835 South Carolina. Mother probably Leonora UNKNOWN MOON b. 1835 Mississippi. They are listed on the 1860 census for Anderson County, TX. That's all I know about this family. I suspect William is a brother of my Jesse MOON, but don't know yet. Could this be your Ellen MOON HARE? Laurie P.S. I also have a Sophronia CRUTCHFIELD b. 1847 in Missouri. She's listed as age 13 on the 1860 Dallas County, TX, census with Judge Nat M. BURFORD and wife Mary J. KNIGHT BURFORD. I suspect she's the daughter of a Judge CRUTCHFIELD (first name unknown), because Nat was reported as his friend. Do you know anything about her? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [TXDENTON] HAIR, HAIRE, HARE's of Denton County > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Hare, Haire, Hair, Crutchfield, Epps, Hodge, Wells, Lemmons, > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1621 > > Message Board Post: > > I have recently gotten quite a few death certificates for my > Hair/Haire/Hare maternal grandmother's people: They are: > > Princella Hare, d. 1926, Denton, TX > Jack Hare, d. 1939, Denton, TX, (husband of Ellen Moon Hare) > Ellen Hare, d. 1936, Denton, TX > Walter Haire, d. 6-21-1946, in Dallas, TX (s/o of Jack & Ellen; might > have been divorced from Sadie Haire?) > Robert Hair, d. 1945, Pre #1, Bowie, TX,(Jack's brother) > John Hair, d. 10-21-1950, in Douglassville, Cass, TX (Jack's bro) > Rosievelt hair, d. 1929 in Nash, Bowie, TX, (Robert's son) > Marhsall Hair, d. 1934, in Cass Co., TX, (John's son) > Oran Robert hair, d. 1939, in Texarkana, Bowie, TX, ( Robert's son) > Dellar Hair, d. 1946, in Pre #6, Cass, TX, (wife of Beach) > Beach Hair, d. 1971, Cass Co., TX > Princella Hare, d. 1926, Denton, TX > Tommie Haire, d. 1969, Atlanta, Cass, TX (John's son) > > Except for Beach (Dellar), and Princella, all the above > are family connected. > > If any of these names are familiar to anyone, please contact me. > Thanks, > CDoutherd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1622 Message Board Post: Looking for marriage of Rhienhold John Frederick Wolters most often known as Fred Wolters to a woman named Minnie around 1910-1912 in Denton County, Texas. Thanks Joel H. Hutto joelhutto@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hare, Haire, Hair, Crutchfield, Epps, Hodge, Wells, Lemmons, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/hkB.2ACI/1621 Message Board Post: I have recently gotten quite a few death certificates for my Hair/Haire/Hare maternal grandmother's people: They are: Princella Hare, d. 1926, Denton, TX Jack Hare, d. 1939, Denton, TX, (husband of Ellen Moon Hare) Ellen Hare, d. 1936, Denton, TX Walter Haire, d. 6-21-1946, in Dallas, TX (s/o of Jack & Ellen; might have been divorced from Sadie Haire?) Robert Hair, d. 1945, Pre #1, Bowie, TX,(Jack's brother) John Hair, d. 10-21-1950, in Douglassville, Cass, TX (Jack's bro) Rosievelt hair, d. 1929 in Nash, Bowie, TX, (Robert's son) Marhsall Hair, d. 1934, in Cass Co., TX, (John's son) Oran Robert hair, d. 1939, in Texarkana, Bowie, TX, ( Robert's son) Dellar Hair, d. 1946, in Pre #6, Cass, TX, (wife of Beach) Beach Hair, d. 1971, Cass Co., TX Princella Hare, d. 1926, Denton, TX Tommie Haire, d. 1969, Atlanta, Cass, TX (John's son) Except for Beach (Dellar), and Princella, all the above are family connected. If any of these names are familiar to anyone, please contact me. Thanks, CDoutherd