This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZkB.2ACI/1864.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Raymond, the SSDI listings are for anyone with a SS # ; they can be any age. I got my # when I was 12-14. Point is, it has nothing to do with drawing benefits. If your Rufus had a #, you should be able to find him on the SSDI. As I said earlier, there are 597 Savages on the list that died in Texas. One of them should be your Rufus, by whatever name. Good luck. ...............Fred

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1868.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I mentioned Sand Hill, that should have been Sandy Branch Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1868.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the site, but the cemetery listed on this site, Sand Hill, is at a different location, not on Haymarket Road. I have attempted to contact the webmistress on this site but the mail has been returned. Do you know who is in charge of this web site now and how to contact them? Thanks for responding and offering help. Jo

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Umphress/Horton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1689.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I am the daughter of Robert Olan Umphress; granddaughter of Gus & Della (Mayo), gr-grand of Ras and Maggie (Grubbs) and gr-gr-grand of Mitchell and Martha (Horton). Gus and Della moved with their children to CA (don't know when, but the children were b. in Granbury, TX; the youngest, Rupert, in 1914. The boys later attended Brownfield (I think) school before coming west. They were in Imperial Valley, then in Solano County, CA when my parents met and brought forth 3 descendants, all girls. (Gus and Della's) Umphress. Since we all married and no longer use the Umphress name; Rupert and wife Agness never had children, and the other two children were girls who married Smiths, our line is pretty well shot! my email address is [email protected] if you would like to send your family link. Thank you, Barb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1864.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Fred, I had a small map of the area but it didn't show county lines for the lake so I guessed (wrong, naturally). I will try the papers you mentioned and see if I can't find a news clipping. As for Social Security, he was too young to draw benefits so I guess that's the reason you didn't find him. The only name I know is Rufus. Thanks again. Raymond

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZkB.2ACI/1864.1 Message Board Post: Grapevine Lake is actually in Tarrant and Denton Counties. Newspapers there, as well as Dallas, may have had an article on the drownings. Suggest you find the sites for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the Dallas Morning News and whatever the Denton newspaper might be called. I did not find a Rufus Savage, Texas, on the SSDI; however there are 597 Savages there, so maybe you need to search it for whatever his other given name was. ..........Fred

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZkB.2ACI/1868.1 Message Board Post: Jo, after some searching I came upon the site below. It's possible the cemetery you're looking for is Sand Branch. Maybe this will help. ..........Fred http://www.geocities.com/kleberg_rylie/

Hi, I am looking for more info on my gg grandparents, Benjamin F Shorter and Pauline Hughes Shorter, who are living in Dallas County in 1870 and divorcing there in 1890. Apparently they also used the surname Walker, for some unknown reason. They had 4 daughters, Mary Louise, Minnie, Ellen and Carle. What happened to Minnie and Carle? Sue in MN

I am trying to find descendants of Robert L. Willis in the Dallas area. Robert L. Willis was born in 1851 in Ms. and died sometime after 1920. He is on the 1900 census for Henderson Co. and the 1910 and 1920 for Dallas Co. His son William A. Willis was my great grandfather and is buried in the Mills Cemetery in Garland. Also in the same family plot is his half brothers Robert W. Willis and Albert. I would like to find any descendants of Robert W. Willis and his wife Ruby Sloan. Their children were: Donald Leon Willis b. 1926 Dallas Co. Edith Lavern Willis b. 1931 Dallas Co. Bessie Lorci Willis b. 1932 Dallas Lois Evelyn Willis b. 1935 Dallas Co. Also, any descendants of Robert W. and Albert's sister. Bessie b. Jan. 1893 Tx. Willie b. Apr. 1894 Tx. Nellie b. July 1899 Tx. Thanks for any info. Linda

Hi Linda, If Robert L. died in Texas after 1903, have you tried to get his death record from the Texas State Library and Archives Commission: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/vitalfaq.html Bill Allen <[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: > I am trying to find descendants of Robert L. Willis in the Dallas area. > Robert L. Willis was born in 1851 in Ms. and died sometime after 1920. > He is on the 1900 census for Henderson Co. and the 1910 and 1920 > for Dallas Co. > > His son William A. Willis was my great grandfather and is buried in > the Mills Cemetery in Garland. Also in the same family plot is his > half brothers Robert W. Willis and Albert. > > I would like to find any descendants of Robert W. Willis and his wife > Ruby Sloan. Their children were: > > Donald Leon Willis b. 1926 Dallas Co. > > Edith Lavern Willis b. 1931 Dallas Co. > > Bessie Lorci Willis b. 1932 Dallas > > Lois Evelyn Willis b. 1935 Dallas Co. > > Also, any descendants of Robert W. and Albert's sister. > > Bessie b. Jan. 1893 Tx. > Willie b. Apr. 1894 Tx. > Nellie b. July 1899 Tx. > > Thanks for any info. > > Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1689.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Barb,, what is your relationship if any to the family? Thanks Max

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1689.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Barb,, At this time I can't be of much help on further info on Mitchell,, however I am attempting to send you a link that I hope you can use,, you will find information on the Umphress Cemetary,, The Pleasant Mound Cemetary and the Old Pleasant Mound Cemetary, and the Horton Cemetary,, you will find info on Umphress, Humphries, and Hortons. Hope this helps..http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~jwheat/index.html Max

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1868 Message Board Post: Does anyone know of a cemetery located on Haymarket Road, just off of St. Augustine Road in what used to be the old Kleburg/Rylie area? It is was across the street from the Oak Grove Baptist Church. The area has grown up now and the cemetery can't be seen from the road. I don't know the current owners of the property. From what I remember her telling me, it was a small cemetery. My Mom is 77 years old and remembers it well. My mother's parents purchased a farm in the area (was Merlin Road), in 1938 and they would watch the families gather, hold services and could hear them singing across the field from them. The old church was abandoned as more people moved into the area and was eventually torn down by the new owners of the land. It was a black cemetery. The church members moved and the cemetery was no longer used after a few years. I attempted to contact several groups regarding this cemetery but no one showed any interest in it. I'm sure there must be somone who would like to know of this cemetery and the forgotten families in it. If anyone would like to have more information, please feel free to contact me. I would like for someone to be aware of this cemetery and preserve it for future generations.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Umphress/Horton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1689.1.1 Message Board Post: Have you been able to find any more on Mitchell, Artemissa's father? I have several documents which state that he was illegitimate, which was not unusual in those days, and didn't mean the same as nowadays. The only Umphress's I have been able to find in all of the research I've done over the years is a John Umphress, 20 y.o. in 1775 Frederick Co., MD, then later, Edmund Umphress; his descendants settling in VanAlstyne Co., TX. One of his sons was named Francis Ulysses, where Mitchell's son was named Francis Ufrates (spelled that way in Mitch's probate file), or "Frate", his nickname. Edmund also had a son named John Riley, where Mitch's oldest son was named John Robert ( I erred in the earlier group sheet). I also have a pension file for a John R. Umphress in FL, who was born in AL. When I went to this census report, it was spelled Humphries, and had a 72 y.o. Uriah living with them. Several living relatives have said Missie's husband was named Levi, but I have no offi! cial documentation of that as yet. When I had the land search done on Mitchell's inheritance of land, the State sent a report which gave only Martha Humphries, illeg. as deed holder, and it was issued to her as "John Stokes heir". How Mitch obtained the land is a mystery; James Jones, J.P. was his guardian and reportedly was to sell the land on the court house steps in Wash. Co., GA in 1829, but he still owned it when he died in 1859, so he was either a direct heir or it was left to him right after it was issued in 1827. Puzzling! Hope you'll keep in touch, Barb

Hi, Texas Vital Statistics, Texas State Library and Archives Commission: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/vitalfaq.html Bill Allen <[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > What is the URL for the Dallas Public Library to ask for a death index lookup? Or the Texas Archived Library? > > Thanks a million!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1689.1 Message Board Post: My grandmother was the daughter of Artemissa Umphress and I have her husband as Lewis Horton instead of Levi,, not sure which is correct.. My grandmother was Ida Della Horton born July 16.1880 and she married William A. Chaffin,, they lived in what was known as Elam Station in the Pleasant Grove area which is now part of southeast Dallas, Texas when they were first married.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1733.2 Message Board Post: There is a Dickason St. off Oak Lawn in North Dallas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1866.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you very much, Donna.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1866.1 Message Board Post: Here's for the Dallas Library http://dallaslibrary.org/ and here's for the Bureau of Vital Statistics in Austin http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/default.htm donna http://users.htcomp.net/donnasdigs Donna's Digs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZkB.2ACI/1867 Message Board Post: Hi, does anyone have access to the above index, and if so, would you look up possible death of: Martha Richardson - Denton County(?) not sure if she died there. Also a Jack Hare/Hair and Ellen Hare/Hair, lived in Denton County. Thanks a lot!