MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS BORN INA BELL RYLIE IN 1872 IN RYLIE PRAIRIE (NOW PART OF S/E DALLAS WHERE 175 AND 635 CROSS) SHE HAD THREE OLDER BROTHERS 1. MAJOR H. 2. JAMES (JIM) 3. JOHN (JACK) THERE HAD BEEN A MARY THE FIRST BORN OF THE FAMILY BUT AFTER THE 1860 CENSUS SHE WAS NOT MENTIONED AGAIN. I WAS GUESSING SHE DIED (BUT SHE COULD OF BEEN MARRIED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE) SHE WAS 4 IN 1860 CENSUS AND IT HAD HER AS MARY J. THE PARENTS WERE JOHN ARMSTRONG RYLIE AND HARRIET HARDING RYLIE. JOHN CAME TO DALLAS AS A BOY WITH HIS PARENTS JAMES R. RYLIE AND MARY SNOW RYLIE AND THREE SISTERS BEFORE 1846. DOES ANY OF THIS FIT WITH YOUR MARY RILEY BROWN? glensue wrote: > Subcy wrote > > ARE YOU SPEAKING OF RYLIE PRARIE IN DALLAS COINTY?WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR MARY ANN RILEY? HER FAMILY? > > It could be Rylie Prarie , I havent been the cemetery . I think it is on the east side of Dallas. Mary Ann Riley Brown is my Great Grandmother . I know quite a bit about her and her family . I still have some blanks . Do you have knowledge of them? > Glenda > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Glenda, I am interested in hearing about the Brown family. My grgrandmother was Caroline Brown. I can not find information regarding her family. I do know that they came from Ga. I do have a photo of a Sanford Brown. Stephanie ----- Original Message ----- From: "glensue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: [TXDALLAS] Re: Roll Call Brown > Subcy wrote > > ARE YOU SPEAKING OF RYLIE PRARIE IN DALLAS COINTY?WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR MARY ANN RILEY? HER FAMILY? > > > > It could be Rylie Prarie , I havent been the cemetery . I think it is on the east side of Dallas. Mary Ann Riley Brown is my Great Grandmother . I know quite a bit about her and her family . I still have some blanks . Do you have knowledge of them? > Glenda > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Subcy wrote ARE YOU SPEAKING OF RYLIE PRARIE IN DALLAS COINTY?WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR MARY ANN RILEY? HER FAMILY? It could be Rylie Prarie , I havent been the cemetery . I think it is on the east side of Dallas. Mary Ann Riley Brown is my Great Grandmother . I know quite a bit about her and her family . I still have some blanks . Do you have knowledge of them? Glenda

be aware that for anyone who is not a close, direct relative, the 25 yr privacy law applies for death certificate, and 50 yrs for birth certificates in TX. anna HOUSTON PRICE Bill Allen <[email protected]> wrote:Hi, Annie Bettie DUNHAM died 28 Oct 1981 in Dallas County. Your aunt's death certificate will name the cemetey where she's buried. You'll probably find James Edward DUNHAM buried there also. I don't know if these are their children. But a William David DURHAM Sr. died 11 Jul 1985 in Dallas County. Rebecca Eloise BATTREAL died 2 Feb 1981 in Dallas County. And I found 9 Lena Marie's who died in the 1980s and 1990s in Dallas County. You can get your aunt's death certificate from the Texas Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics: http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/bvs/default.htm Bill Allen "Shirley A. Evans" wrote: > Seeking info on the DUNHAM family in Dallas County. > > Specifically James Edward Dunham and his ancestors > and descendants (dob and dod unknown). > > All I know about him is that he was married to my father's > half-sister, Annie B. Mason, b. 1894 in Greer Co., OK, > d. 1981 in Dallas Co., TX. They had 3 children: Rebecca > Eloise, William David, and Lena Marie Dunham. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

are you descended from the CROSTHWAITE - BROCKMAN lines? i've included someone who is if you are so that ya'll can share. i'm on the BORCKMAN line, but not thru the CROSTHWAITE line. anna HOUSTON PRICE Bill Allen <[email protected]> wrote:Hi, TX deaths have been recorded at the state level since 1903. For a lookup in the TX Death Records, go to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission web page. Scroll to the bottom of the page and e-mail your request to them. Bill Allen Joe & Nita Bynum wrote: > I'm researching all in the Dallas area; > John H. Middleton b. 1829 Ohio d. abt. 1906 Dallas m.Mary Funk Christian Co. > Illinois 1853. > Mariah Louisa Middleton Crosthwait. b. 1832 Ross Co., Ohio m. G.W. > Crosthwait 1852 Christain Co., Ill d. 1906 Dallas > W. H & O.C. Crosthwait. O.C. was the County auditor for many years. > James E. Flanders in Dallas 1876-1913 > Architect of many of the buildings, courthouses, and Churches in the Dallas > area. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

you are right about some counties not complying at first and at a program on that subject, i heard that dallas did not want to comply so it did not start fully reporting deaths to the state until 1913. another source might be an obit in the newspaper, also i've noticed in the old city directories, that some names have a death date next to it in the city directory for the next year. also, old funeral home records might give you some info. i've used that source some too. anna HOUSOTN PRICE Bill Allen <[email protected]> wrote:Hi Jerry, If John R. FONDREN died in 1906, have you tried getting his death certificate? TX deaths have been recorded at the state level since 1903. Although reporting them to the state wasn't all that consistant at first. Or you could try getting it from the Dallas County Clerk. For a lookup, go to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission. Scroll to the bottom of their web page and e-mail your request to them. If they have his death recorded, they're response will also tell you how to get his death certificate. Texas State Library and Archives Commission, Texas Vital Statistics: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/vitalfaq.html If his death wasn't recorded at the state level, contact the Dallas County Clerk: Dallas County Vital Records Office Dallas County Clerk 509 Main Street Dallas, TX 75202-3507 (214) 653-7131 Bill Allen Jerry Bailey wrote: > I researching the FONDREN, LOVE, MANLEY families in Dallas Co. > > John R. Fondren (1813-1906) moved his family to Dallas Co. in 1846. > > Osborn and Jane Love came to Dallas Co. in 1850s. > > Thomas J. Manley and family came to Dallas Co. about 1854. > > Thanks ----- > Jerry ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

hi tereesa, haven't seen you at TSL lately - hope you had happy holidays. just a thousht about why they were in dallas, maybe that's where there was work? have you checked the old city directories? also, i have ancestors in wheatland cemetery, my Dad, Henry Leonard HOUSTON, his parents and grandparents, plus other HOUSTON, NIX, DENTON. let's talk when i see you at TSL next time! anna HOUSTON PRICE Theresa/Bob Weddell <[email protected]> wrote:I am looking for info that will tell me WHERE James Arwine & wife Mary lived in Irving and info giving me a clue as to why James Arwine and his wife Mary Martin Arwine lived in Irving, Dallas County, Texas rather than in Birdville, Tarrant County, Texas with their children and friends who came from the general area of Brown County, Indiana. James Arwine had a son, Daniel Arwine whose wife was Julia Barrow Arwine. Julia's sister is Mahala Barrow Butcher. Mahala was listed on the 1870 census of Dallas County in the household of James and Mary Arwine, another mystery. Any info on these people would be appreciated Arwine, James James Arwine & wife, Mary Martin (Parents of Daniel Arwine) *(below info on James Arwine from John Arwine booklet pub. by Brown County, Indiana Gen. Society: James Arwine, son of James Arwine & Eva Gooden, b. Sept. 17, 1799 in Reading Pennsylvania (place from 1850 & 1860 censuses) died: , 1879 Texas (I found out that James was first buried in Irving, Dallas County, Texas, then disinterred by his son Daniel Arwine and re-buried in Arwine Cemetery in Hurst, Tarrant County, Texas. Daniel Arwine had donated land for a school and cemetery, they were both named the Arwine School and Arwine Cemetery.) James and Mary married before 1824, probably in Anderson Co., Tenn. (as eldest son, John S. Arwine, was born ther Jan 4, 1824) Arwine, James was also a member of the Grand Prarie Masonic Lodge. I found this info in a Texas State Masonic book listing masonic members deaths for 1879(Book found at the Texas State Library). Arwine, Mary Martin, wife of James Arwine. George Butcher Died 5/12/1896 buried in the Wheatland Cemetery, Oak Cliff, Dallas County, Texas Butcher, Mahala Barrow b. 16 Dec 1821 Monroe Co., Indiana died: 5 April 1878 Dallas County, Texas. she died in Red Oak, Ellis Co., TX buried in the Bell Chapel Cemetery in Red Oak, Ellis County, TX. Thanks, Theresa Weddell [email protected] Austin, Texas ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I'm looking for information about the children of William Nicholas CRENSHAW and Mary W. Pomeroy CRENSHAW of Dallas, Texas. They lived from the late 1890's to the early 1900's. Their children include Pamila "Ruth" (Crenshaw) De La TORRE, Blanche CRENSHAW, George Lytle CRENSHAW ("Lyte), Eliza E. "Ellen" Crenshaw (Gray), Aaron Lane Hardage (ALH) CRENSHAW, William "Clinton" Crenshaw, Grover Cleveland CRENSHAW. I have reason to believe that descendants still live in the area. William Nicholas, Mary, Eliza E., William C. "Clint", George L. "Lyte", ALH, James C., and Pamila "Ruth" were listed in the 1880 census in Blue Springs, MIssouri (Jackson County). Blanche became a chiropractor on Pennsylvania Street (or Avenue) in Dallas. One girl married Adrin Shandy in Dallas. The family lived for a time in Mexico City, where William Nicholas died. His wife may have died in Dallas. I'd like to make contact with more family descendants. Hut from Missouri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa/Bob Weddell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: [TXDALLAS] Annual Roll Call > I am looking for info that will tell me WHERE James Arwine & wife Mary lived in Irving and info giving me a clue as to why James Arwine and his wife Mary Martin Arwine lived in Irving, Dallas County, Texas rather than in Birdville, Tarrant County, Texas with their children and friends who came from the general area of Brown County, Indiana. > > James Arwine had a son, Daniel Arwine whose wife was Julia Barrow Arwine. Julia's sister is Mahala Barrow Butcher. Mahala was listed on the 1870 census of Dallas County in the household of James and Mary Arwine, another mystery. > > Any info on these people would be appreciated > > Arwine, James > James Arwine & wife, Mary Martin (Parents of Daniel Arwine) > > *(below info on James Arwine from John Arwine booklet pub. by Brown County, Indiana Gen. Society: James Arwine, son of James Arwine & Eva Gooden, > > b. Sept. 17, 1799 in Reading Pennsylvania (place from 1850 & 1860 censuses) > > died: , 1879 Texas > > (I found out that James was first buried in Irving, Dallas County, Texas, then disinterred by his son Daniel Arwine and re-buried in Arwine Cemetery in Hurst, Tarrant County, Texas. Daniel Arwine had donated land for a school and cemetery, they were both named the Arwine School and Arwine Cemetery.) > > James and Mary married before 1824, probably in Anderson Co., Tenn. (as eldest son, John S. Arwine, was born ther Jan 4, 1824) > > Arwine, James was also a member of the Grand Prarie Masonic Lodge. I found this info in a Texas State Masonic book listing masonic members deaths for 1879(Book found at the Texas State Library). > > Arwine, Mary Martin, wife of James Arwine. > > > George Butcher > > Died 5/12/1896 > buried in the Wheatland Cemetery, Oak Cliff, Dallas County, Texas > > > > Butcher, Mahala Barrow > > b. 16 Dec 1821 Monroe Co., Indiana > > died: 5 April 1878 Dallas County, Texas. > she died in Red Oak, Ellis Co., TX > > buried in the Bell Chapel Cemetery in Red Oak, Ellis County, TX. > > > > Thanks, > > Theresa Weddell > > [email protected] > > Austin, Texas > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi again Barbara, TX Birth Records (1926-1997): Jewell Darl (inf of) CHAPMAN, female, was born 20 Jan 1926 in Dallas County to Jewell Darl CHAPMAN and Kathleen ESTES. No other children born to those parents are named. [Since that child what given the same name as the father, they may have mistakenly entered "f" in the record when it should be "m."] Since the father is buried in Laurel Land, isn't the mother buried there also? Or did she remarry? TX Death Records: No one named Kathleen CHAPMAN listed. CHAPMAN women who died in Dallas County: Katherine (1985), Kathryn Edwina (1980), Katie E. Whickam (1988), Katy Mae (1967). TX Death Records: http://vitals.rootsweb.com/tx/death/search.cgi TX Marriage Index (1966-1998): No record for a MOORE/CHAPMAN marriage. They must have married before 1966. Bill Allen <[email protected]> Barbara Samuels wrote: > Would like information about Kathleen ESTES b. 1903 Dallas Co. and married Dare CHAPMAN 1920. Dare died in 1963 and is buried in Laurel Land. They had 2 children a son who died young and daughter Betty born 1938. Betty married Mr. Moore and was living in Dallas in the 1980's. Mr. Moore and Betty had 2 children both born in Dallas. Would like to know date of death of Kathleen, unnamed son and first name of Mr. Moore. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Barbara

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I am looking for info that will tell me WHERE James Arwine & wife Mary lived in Irving and info giving me a clue as to why James Arwine and his wife Mary Martin Arwine lived in Irving, Dallas County, Texas rather than in Birdville, Tarrant County, Texas with their children and friends who came from the general area of Brown County, Indiana. James Arwine had a son, Daniel Arwine whose wife was Julia Barrow Arwine. Julia's sister is Mahala Barrow Butcher. Mahala was listed on the 1870 census of Dallas County in the household of James and Mary Arwine, another mystery. Any info on these people would be appreciated Arwine, James James Arwine & wife, Mary Martin (Parents of Daniel Arwine) *(below info on James Arwine from John Arwine booklet pub. by Brown County, Indiana Gen. Society: James Arwine, son of James Arwine & Eva Gooden, b. Sept. 17, 1799 in Reading Pennsylvania (place from 1850 & 1860 censuses) died: , 1879 Texas (I found out that James was first buried in Irving, Dallas County, Texas, then disinterred by his son Daniel Arwine and re-buried in Arwine Cemetery in Hurst, Tarrant County, Texas. Daniel Arwine had donated land for a school and cemetery, they were both named the Arwine School and Arwine Cemetery.) James and Mary married before 1824, probably in Anderson Co., Tenn. (as eldest son, John S. Arwine, was born ther Jan 4, 1824) Arwine, James was also a member of the Grand Prarie Masonic Lodge. I found this info in a Texas State Masonic book listing masonic members deaths for 1879(Book found at the Texas State Library). Arwine, Mary Martin, wife of James Arwine. George Butcher Died 5/12/1896 buried in the Wheatland Cemetery, Oak Cliff, Dallas County, Texas Butcher, Mahala Barrow b. 16 Dec 1821 Monroe Co., Indiana died: 5 April 1878 Dallas County, Texas. she died in Red Oak, Ellis Co., TX buried in the Bell Chapel Cemetery in Red Oak, Ellis County, TX. Thanks, Theresa Weddell [email protected] Austin, Texas

I am looking for info that will tell me WHERE James Arwine & wife Mary lived in Irving and info giving me a clue as to why James Arwine and his wife Mary Martin Arwine lived in Irving, Dallas County, Texas rather than in Birdville, Tarrant County, Texas with their children and friends who came from the general area of Brown County, Indiana. James Arwine had a son, Daniel Arwine whose wife was Julia Barrow Arwine. Julia's sister is Mahala Barrow Butcher. Mahala was listed on the 1870 census of Dallas County in the household of James and Mary Arwine, another mystery. Any info on these people would be appreciated Arwine, James James Arwine & wife, Mary Martin (Parents of Daniel Arwine) *(below info on James Arwine from John Arwine booklet pub. by Brown County, Indiana Gen. Society: James Arwine, son of James Arwine & Eva Gooden, b. Sept. 17, 1799 in Reading Pennsylvania (place from 1850 & 1860 censuses) died: , 1879 Texas (I found out that James was first buried in Irving, Dallas County, Texas, then disinterred by his son Daniel Arwine and re-buried in Arwine Cemetery in Hurst, Tarrant County, Texas. Daniel Arwine had donated land for a school and cemetery, they were both named the Arwine School and Arwine Cemetery.) James and Mary married before 1824, probably in Anderson Co., Tenn. (as eldest son, John S. Arwine, was born ther Jan 4, 1824) Arwine, James was also a member of the Grand Prarie Masonic Lodge. I found this info in a Texas State Masonic book listing masonic members deaths for 1879(Book found at the Texas State Library). Arwine, Mary Martin, wife of James Arwine. George Butcher Died 5/12/1896 buried in the Wheatland Cemetery, Oak Cliff, Dallas County, Texas Butcher, Mahala Barrow b. 16 Dec 1821 Monroe Co., Indiana died: 5 April 1878 Dallas County, Texas. she died in Red Oak, Ellis Co., TX buried in the Bell Chapel Cemetery in Red Oak, Ellis County, TX. Thanks, Theresa Weddell [email protected] Austin, Texas

Hi Barbara, The TX Birth Index (1926-1997) named 208 children born to a mother named SAMUEL. But no children born to a father named ZULICH (George or anything else). TX Death Records (1964-1998) had no one named ZULICH who died in TX. (The SSDI named 34 ZULICHs. None were named George or Juliet.) You can get a lookup in the TX Death Records (since 1903) from the Texas State Library and Archives Commission. Scroll to the bottom of their page and e-mail your request to them. Texas State Library and Archives Commisson: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/vitalfaq.html After George and Juilet married, could they have moved out of TX near the other ZULICHs in George's family. The 34 named in the SSDI had their SS# issued in: 14 in New York, 9 in Indiana, 4 in Ohio, 4 in Pennsylvania, 1 in Alaska, 1 in New Jersey, 1 in Vermont. That may be a place to start looking. Bill Allen <[email protected]> Barbara Samuels wrote: > I am seeking information about George ZULICH who was married to Juliet C. SAMUEL in July 1922 in Dallas County. I heard that he was a cab driver for a time in the 1920's and 30's. I would like date of death of both and if they had any children would like their names. Juliet was born 1899 in Kosse, TX. Any information would be appreicated. Thanks, Barbara

In a message dated 12/29/02 9:43:51 PM, [email protected] writes: << Sorry, that last msg should have said Peoria in 1910, so even the age wasn't right. >> I just saw this message after replying to the last.... Thanks for the correction but I still may pursue this. Eileen

Hi Jerry, If John R. FONDREN died in 1906, have you tried getting his death certificate? TX deaths have been recorded at the state level since 1903. Although reporting them to the state wasn't all that consistant at first. Or you could try getting it from the Dallas County Clerk. For a lookup, go to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission. Scroll to the bottom of their web page and e-mail your request to them. If they have his death recorded, they're response will also tell you how to get his death certificate. Texas State Library and Archives Commission, Texas Vital Statistics: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/vitalfaq.html If his death wasn't recorded at the state level, contact the Dallas County Clerk: Dallas County Vital Records Office Dallas County Clerk 509 Main Street Dallas, TX 75202-3507 (214) 653-7131 Bill Allen <[email protected]> Jerry Bailey wrote: > I researching the FONDREN, LOVE, MANLEY families in Dallas Co. > > John R. Fondren (1813-1906) moved his family to Dallas Co. in 1846. > > Osborn and Jane Love came to Dallas Co. in 1850s. > > Thomas J. Manley and family came to Dallas Co. about 1854. > > Thanks ----- > Jerry

I researching the FONDREN, LOVE, MANLEY families in Dallas Co. John R. Fondren (1813-1906) moved his family to Dallas Co. in 1846. Osborn and Jane Love came to Dallas Co. in 1850s. Thomas J. Manley and family came to Dallas Co. about 1854. Thanks ----- Jerry

I am looking for any information on the following surnames in Dallas, Lamar and Hopkins Counties. Humphrey, Noble, Stone, Anderson. My Grandfather Gordon Humphrey and Grandmother Nora Noble Humphrey moved to Dallas County from Hopkins Co. in the 1930s. My maternal grandparents, Fanklin Dial Stone and Abby Anderson Stone, moved to Dallas Co. from Paris, Lamar Co. Tx.in the 30s Also. I would like any information on these families from any one researching them. I'm willing to share what I have so far. Happy Hunting. Robert Humphrey [email protected] __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Would like information about Kathleen ESTES b. 1903 Dallas Co. and married Dare CHAPMAN 1920. Dare died in 1963 and is buried in Laurel Land. They had 2 children a son who died young and daughter Betty born 1938. Betty married Mr. Moore and was living in Dallas in the 1980's. Mr. Moore and Betty had 2 children both born in Dallas. Would like to know date of death of Kathleen, unnamed son and first name of Mr. Moore. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Barbara

I am seeking information about George ZULICH who was married to Juliet C. SAMUEL in July 1922 in Dallas County. I heard that he was a cab driver for a time in the 1920's and 30's. I would like date of death of both and if they had any children would like their names. Juliet was born 1899 in Kosse, TX. Any information would be appreicated. Thanks, Barbara

Sorry, that last msg should have said Peoria in 1910, so even the age wasn't right. --- [email protected] wrote: > My ggf, William H. Murray b. IL 1861 m. Vesta > Norman b. IL 1861. They moved > to Dallas and then to Hillsboro, Hill Co. about > 1900. He worked at both > places for the MKT (Missouri, Kansas, Texas) > RR. as a car inspector. I don't > know what happened to them after that. I know > that William died in New > Mexico in the 1930's but I would love to know > about my ggm, Vesta > Murray......where and when she died. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com