Hi. The underlining and hihglighting didn't transmit, but I will comment on the message and possibly clear up any confusion anyway. First let me explain the 1910 census. It lists age, sex, race, occupation, type of place of employment (if any), and birthplaces; it asks how many times each adult has been md. and how many years they have been md. to their current spouse. It also asked women how many children they had given birth to and how many of those children were still living (thus the 5). Having said that, under Occupation, A. D. listed simply "own income" instead of a job or retired, e.g. That was why I said he seemed to have done well - he was apparently living off his savings, not off the generosity of a son-in-law. (In fact, the son-in-law and family were living with him, not vice versa.) As for the marriages, he and his wife had each been md. only once (obviously then to each other) and for 46 yrs. The 5 children that she gave birth to were then presumably his, though men were not asked how many children they had fathered <grin>. I hope that clears up whatever the question was <smile>. If not, feel free to ask. --- bryant martin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Genie: > I'm confused about one sentence in your > message. I have it underlined and highlighted > below. Can you explain what exactly it means? > Genie <[email protected]> wrote:He must > have done well as a gambler. In 1910, he > is listed in Dallas, TX, as A. D. Brooks, > occupation "own income". He is living on the > Twelfth block of Crawford St., Pct. #7, age 74, > b. NY, living with wife Mary E., 64, b. TX. She > had 5 children, all living. They were each md. > once, for 46 yrs. With them is Johnson Hale, > 43, > manager at an ice factory, his wife Ada B. 35, > daus Mary, 8 and Ada, 4. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi Genie: I'm confused about one sentence in your message. I have it underlined and highlighted below. Can you explain what exactly it means? Much thanks! Bryant Genie <[email protected]> wrote:He must have done well as a gambler. In 1910, he is listed in Dallas, TX, as A. D. Brooks, occupation "own income". He is living on the Twelfth block of Crawford St., Pct. #7, age 74, b. NY, living with wife Mary E., 64, b. TX. She had 5 children, all living. They were each md. once, for 46 yrs. With them is Johnson Hale, 43, manager at an ice factory, his wife Ada B. 35, daus Mary, 8 and Ada, 4. > bryant martin wrote: > One of my relatives, Arnold D. Brooks, > lived in Paris and Dallas for part of his life. > He was born 1835 in New York, and died in 1912. > His wife was: Mary (Craddock), born 1846 in > Texas, and died 1927. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Bryant Florida --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Genie: Thanks for this incredible information! You are so helpful. This helps a lot! Take care- Bryant Genie <[email protected]> wrote:He must have done well as a gambler. In 1910, he is listed in Dallas, TX, as A. D. Brooks, occupation "own income". He is living on the Twelfth block of Crawford St., Pct. #7, age 74, b. NY, living with wife Mary E., 64, b. TX. She had 5 children, all living. They were each md. once, for 46 yrs. With them is Johnson Hale, 43, manager at an ice factory, his wife Ada B. 35, daus Mary, 8 and Ada, 4. > bryant martin wrote: > One of my relatives, Arnold D. Brooks, > lived in Paris and Dallas for part of his life. > He was born 1835 in New York, and died in 1912. > His wife was: Mary (Craddock), born 1846 in > Texas, and died 1927. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Bryant Florida --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I am looking for descendants of William Riley Phillips b.1854 in Missouri. He and his family moved to Van Zandt County, TX in the 1880s. He and his wife Sarah Rachel Quick had several children; Pearl, Napoleon, Jerome, William Edward, Hosea, Lee Roy, Jewett Aaron, Jannie Artimeza, Robert Everett, Lucy Elon, Trannis, Grady and Madie. I know that Napoleon, Hosea and Jewett moved to Dallas and went to work for an ice company where they delivered ice. They lived in the South Dallas area in 1930. If any of these names sound familiar, please contact me. Jim Stone

ok.....thank you jenell

Hi Bryant, Texas has kept death records at the state level since 1903 (although reporting them to the state wasn't all that consistant until the 1930s). If the BROOKS died in TX in 1912 and 1927, you can get a lookup in the TX Death Records from the Texas State Library and Archives Commission: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/vitalfaq.html Scroll to the bottom of their page and e-mail your request to them. If they have the records, their response will also tell you how to get their death certificates. Bill Allen <[email protected]> bryant martin wrote: > Hi! > > I'm new to the Dallas County Mailing List. I recently found out I have ties to Texas. > > One of my relatives, Arnold D. Brooks, lived in Paris and Dallas for part of his life. He was born 1835 in New York, and died in 1912. His wife was: Mary (Craddock), born 1846 in Texas, and died 1927. > > In the 1880 Census Arnold Brooks is listed as a 'gambler.' > > Children: Mary L; Helen; Ada; Ettie; Maud. > > Johnson W. Hale born 1867 Texas Wife: Ada (Brooks) born 1874 Texas. > > Any information or ideas about these people would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! > > Bryant

Hi Bryant Do you have any HOLCOMB's (female) that was married or connected to your HALE line? My gggrandparents were Hale & Holcomb, no first names at all...I have no other information on them at all......... My g grand mother ( their dau ) was Mary 'May' Elizabeth HALE, b 1885 in Italy TX and she married Charles William MOORE who was a lot older then she was... being born in 1858... Mary lived and died in TX .... I believe that she had 2 brothers, ( which I have not been able to find) Joe and Everritte HALE ...... Good luck on your research....... Another Hale researcher...... Jenell Phariss RAgan

Hello Byrant, On the 1920 Census I found the family in TEXAS on ROLL 1799; ED 66 PG 5A TEXAS; EL PASO County; El Paso living at 2712 -what looks like - Montana Ave Hale Johnson 53 Bn in Texas Grocer - Wholesale grocer Ada Johnson 44 wife Mary 17 daughter Frances 14 daughter Mary Brooks 73 Mother-in-law I'll see what else I can find. Tom > > Hi! > > I'm new to the Dallas County Mailing List. I recently found out I have ties to Texas. > > One of my relatives, Arnold D. Brooks, lived in Paris and Dallas for part of his life. He was born 1835 in New York, and died in 1912. His wife was: Mary (Craddock), born 1846 in Texas, and died 1927. > > In the 1880 Census Arnold Brooks is listed as a 'gambler.' > > Children: Mary L; Helen; Ada; Ettie; Maud. > > Johnson W. Hale born 1867 Texas Wife: Ada (Brooks) born 1874 Texas. > > Any information or ideas about these people would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! > > Bryant > > > > > Bryant > Florida > > Bryant > Florida > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

He must have done well as a gambler. In 1910, he is listed in Dallas, TX, as A. D. Brooks, occupation "own income". He is living on the Twelfth block of Crawford St., Pct. #7, age 74, b. NY, living with wife Mary E., 64, b. TX. She had 5 children, all living. They were each md. once, for 46 yrs. With them is Johnson Hale, 43, manager at an ice factory, his wife Ada B. 35, daus Mary, 8 and Ada, 4. > bryant martin wrote: > One of my relatives, Arnold D. Brooks, > lived in Paris and Dallas for part of his life. > He was born 1835 in New York, and died in 1912. > His wife was: Mary (Craddock), born 1846 in > Texas, and died 1927. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Sorry, no connection to your Hale family. If I run across anything, I will let you know. Thank you for your query. Bryant [email protected] wrote:Hi Bryant Do you have any HOLCOMB's (female) that was married or connected to your HALE line? My gggrandparents were Hale & Holcomb, no first names at all...I have no other information on them at all......... My g grand mother ( their dau ) was Mary 'May' Elizabeth HALE, b 1885 in Italy TX and she married Charles William MOORE who was a lot older then she was... being born in 1858... Mary lived and died in TX .... I believe that she had 2 brothers, ( which I have not been able to find) Joe and Everritte HALE ...... Good luck on your research....... Another Hale researcher...... Jenell Phariss RAgan ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Bryant Florida --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Hi! I'm new to the Dallas County Mailing List. I recently found out I have ties to Texas. One of my relatives, Arnold D. Brooks, lived in Paris and Dallas for part of his life. He was born 1835 in New York, and died in 1912. His wife was: Mary (Craddock), born 1846 in Texas, and died 1927. In the 1880 Census Arnold Brooks is listed as a 'gambler.' Children: Mary L; Helen; Ada; Ettie; Maud. Johnson W. Hale born 1867 Texas Wife: Ada (Brooks) born 1874 Texas. Any information or ideas about these people would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Bryant Bryant Florida Bryant Florida --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Thanks, yes, I have had some people helping me to try to locate Ella and everything has been checked trying to find Ella in the census all over Texas and no luck with one her age that could be her. I just keep on running into dead ends. Thanks, Jane Little McEndree ----- Original Message ----- From: Genie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [TXDALLAS] POORHOUSE Information > Have you checked the Ella Andersons in TX in the > 1880 census at familysearch.org? > > Also, I believe there were some orphanages in > Dallas in the late 1800s. > > --- janemc <[email protected]> wrote: > > Were there any poor houses in Dallas County in > > the 1870's? Did orphans wind > > up there ever back then? My great grandmother > > and her brother were abandoned > > by their parents down by the Trinity River > > bottoms between Wilmer and Ferris > > in Ellis county. Wilmer being in Dallas County. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Have you checked the Ella Andersons in TX in the 1880 census at familysearch.org? Also, I believe there were some orphanages in Dallas in the late 1800s. --- janemc <[email protected]> wrote: > Were there any poor houses in Dallas County in > the 1870's? Did orphans wind > up there ever back then? My great grandmother > and her brother were abandoned > by their parents down by the Trinity River > bottoms between Wilmer and Ferris > in Ellis county. Wilmer being in Dallas County. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Were there any poor houses in Dallas County in the 1870's? Did orphans wind up there ever back then? My great grandmother and her brother were abandoned by their parents down by the Trinity River bottoms between Wilmer and Ferris in Ellis county. Wilmer being in Dallas County. My great grandmother was born in 1872 in Sweden according to our family information and her brother, Mac Anderson was born in 1870 in Sweden. My great grandmother was Ella Anderson. The boy, Mac, was takin in by the Weatherford family who lived in Dallas county at the time but they did not want Ella, a girl. At some point she was taken in by a relative of the Weatherfords, the Neely family but my grandmother told me that she thought that Ella had lived somewhere else for a while before the Neely's took her in. I could not find her in 1880 with the Neely family. I don't know where she could have been but Mac was living with the Weatherfords under the name, Mac Anderson, adopted son. He later took on the Weatherford name, but Ella was never adopted and was always Ella Anderson until she married my great grandfather, Judge Carson Little from Wilmer. I was just wondering if maybe she could have been in one of these poor farms for a little while or an orphan train or something like that or maybe an orphans home. I don't know exactly when all of this happened to the children but am thinking that it was probably sometime in the middle to late 1870's. I cannot find them or rather, Mac, in the 1870 census and of course, have no idea what their real parents names were. The story goes according to my family as Mac remembers it that the real father was a drinker and would go out for days getting drunk and then come home and get mean and beat up on his wife and she would hide the children from him. They were usually under the big bed looking out from under it. The last time, Mac saw them was on one of those days or nights when his father came home drunk and began beating his mother with a big pillow sham that was on their bed. She ran out and he ran after her with the pillow. No one ever saw either one of them again. The children were found wondering around down by the Trinity river starving and scared and people went back to Ferris and told the Weatherfords about seeing these children down there and that they needed help. I don't know if Mac somehow knew the names of him and his sister and their birthdays or how this information came to be. You'd think he would also remember his parents names but if so he never seemed to know it as an adult or it was never told to any of my family because Ella didn't seem to know who they were. She always wondered about it and wanted to know what happened to them and so did Mac but they never did find them. Thanks, Jane Little McEndree [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Poor House Lady <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:26 AM Subject: [TXDALLAS] POORHOUSE Information > > We would like to invite you to visit our website, The POORHOUSE STORY (a > clearinghouse for information about 19th century American poorhouses) at > http://www.poorhousestory.com > > We have just published a link to the list of residents of the DALLAS County > Poor Farm From the 1930 Federal Census. > > DIRECTIONS: > > At the homepage (link above) click on POORHOUSES BY STATE, then on TEXAS on > the table of states. If you have been to the website recently you may have > to click REFRESH or RELOAD on the browser to see the new information. Then > scroll down to the section titled RECORDS. > > There are other pages on the site which may give you some interesting > perspective on poorhouses. They are off the homepage and include: the > HISTORY page and the LETTER TO GENEALOGISTS as well as FEATURED ARTICLES. > There are great tips for researching poorhouse records for yourself on the > RECORDS page; and you might want to subscribe to our (almost) monthly > newletter (which you can do in the lower right corner of the homepage). > > The information on our site will only grow through the submissions of > generous readers. If you would like to e-mail me ... please do so off-list > because I cannot maintain subscriptions to as many lists as we post messages > on. (You can use an e-mail link off one of our web pages.) > > We hope you enjoy the site! > > Thanks, > Linda Crannell > (aka=The Poorhouse Lady) > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

We would like to invite you to visit our website, The POORHOUSE STORY (a clearinghouse for information about 19th century American poorhouses) at http://www.poorhousestory.com We have just published a link to the list of residents of the DALLAS County Poor Farm From the 1930 Federal Census. DIRECTIONS: At the homepage (link above) click on POORHOUSES BY STATE, then on TEXAS on the table of states. If you have been to the website recently you may have to click REFRESH or RELOAD on the browser to see the new information. Then scroll down to the section titled RECORDS. There are other pages on the site which may give you some interesting perspective on poorhouses. They are off the homepage and include: the HISTORY page and the LETTER TO GENEALOGISTS as well as FEATURED ARTICLES. There are great tips for researching poorhouse records for yourself on the RECORDS page; and you might want to subscribe to our (almost) monthly newletter (which you can do in the lower right corner of the homepage). The information on our site will only grow through the submissions of generous readers. If you would like to e-mail me ... please do so off-list because I cannot maintain subscriptions to as many lists as we post messages on. (You can use an e-mail link off one of our web pages.) We hope you enjoy the site! Thanks, Linda Crannell (aka=The Poorhouse Lady)

Thanks Genie for the Arwine info. Some of it is new to me. Thanks, Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Genie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: [TXDALLAS] Dr. John S. Arwine, son of James and Mary (Martin) > Biographical Record of Bartholomew County, > Indiana including biographies of the governors > and other representative citizens of Indiana. > Indianapolis, Ind.,B.F. Bowen, 1904 > > Don't know if any of this is new, and doesn't > answer your questions, but thought you might be > interested. This book contains a bio of a Dr. > John S. Arwine, b. 1824 in TN, the son of James > and Mary (Martin) Arwine. His parents removed to > TX in 1869. The father served in the Mexican War > and briefly served in the Civil War as well, > though of advanced age. There were nine sons in > all and their Civil War service is mentioned. > > Says the parents removed from Anderson Co. TN to > Lawrence Co., IN when John was about 10, then to > Brown Co. in 1842. In 1854, James md. Harriet > A. Manville. The rest is about his children, his > > practice, etc. and seems to imply that he is > still in Columbus, Bartholemew Co., IN at the > time of writing. > > --- Theresa/Bob Weddell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am looking for info that will tell me WHERE > > James Arwine & wife Mary lived in Irving and > > info giving me a clue as to why James Arwine > > and his wife Mary Martin Arwine lived in > > Irving, Dallas County, Texas rather than in > > Birdville, Tarrant County, Texas with their > > children and friends who came from the general > > area of Brown County, Indiana. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Biographical Record of Bartholomew County, Indiana including biographies of the governors and other representative citizens of Indiana. Indianapolis, Ind.,B.F. Bowen, 1904 Don't know if any of this is new, and doesn't answer your questions, but thought you might be interested. This book contains a bio of a Dr. John S. Arwine, b. 1824 in TN, the son of James and Mary (Martin) Arwine. His parents removed to TX in 1869. The father served in the Mexican War and briefly served in the Civil War as well, though of advanced age. There were nine sons in all and their Civil War service is mentioned. Says the parents removed from Anderson Co. TN to Lawrence Co., IN when John was about 10, then to Brown Co. in 1842. In 1854, James md. Harriet A. Manville. The rest is about his children, his practice, etc. and seems to imply that he is still in Columbus, Bartholemew Co., IN at the time of writing. --- Theresa/Bob Weddell <[email protected]> wrote: > I am looking for info that will tell me WHERE > James Arwine & wife Mary lived in Irving and > info giving me a clue as to why James Arwine > and his wife Mary Martin Arwine lived in > Irving, Dallas County, Texas rather than in > Birdville, Tarrant County, Texas with their > children and friends who came from the general > area of Brown County, Indiana. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

> I've been in C. 7 years and didn't know about this website. Thanks for > passing it on. Where is your meeting tonight? I'm on the digest format, so I didn't get your message until the day after the Peters Colony Historical Society meeting and didn't read my email until today. We meet at the same library where the microfilms of the Carrollton Chronicle Newspaper are stored. That is the Frankford Village branch of the Carrollton public library at the corner of Frankford and Josey Lane between the grocery store and the fabric store. Our meetings are on the second Monday of the month at 7 p.m. To see a list of the upcoming meetings, take a look at the page I have attached to our Webb Chapel Cemetery Association website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~webbchapel/pchs.html Jan Jones Webb Chapel Cemetery Association Peters Colony Historical Society of Dallas County, Texas

I'm looking for the parents of Melinda Frances Martin b. 10/24/1859 in Dallas, TX of Cherokee parents. I'm told that her parent's are bur'd under what is now Main St. in Dallas, TX. Melinda mar'd Thomas John Downey 10/28/1879 somewhere in TX. They moved to Denison (Fannin), TX and had one dau. Eursley Jane Downey, b. 10/18/1882. Melinda d. 8/19/1883 in Lebanon, OK. She was bur'd under what is now Lake Texhoma. I assume her grave was moved but cannot find it. Does anyone out there have any ideas on where to look? ~ Kal

Don't know if this is the cemetery, but old Woodville, Oklahoma was moved a few miles away for the lake, as was Old Woodville Cemetery, in 1939, I think. I would try the county site in OK, or OK cemetery site(s). --- [email protected] wrote: > I'm looking for the parents of Melinda Frances > Martin b. 10/24/1859 in > Dallas, TX of Cherokee parents. I'm told that > her parent's are bur'd under > what is now Main St. in Dallas, TX. Melinda > mar'd Thomas John Downey > 10/28/1879 somewhere in TX. They moved to > Denison (Fannin), TX and had one > dau. Eursley Jane Downey, b. 10/18/1882. > Melinda d. 8/19/1883 in Lebanon, > OK. She was bur'd under what is now Lake > Texhoma. I assume her grave was > moved but cannot find it. Does anyone out > there have any ideas on where to > look? ~ Kal > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com